[Mailman-Users] setting up mailman
Hi, I am trying to set up mailman on my server running Fedora 2. I have installed Mailman 2.1.5-10.fc2. I have followed the setup instruction contained in the Install document included with the install. I have done the following... Set the mailman.confg file /etc/httpd/config.d to point to my domain Stopped and restarted apache Set the site password using the /var/mailman/bin/mmsitepass Set the DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST (to a virtual domain on the server) in /var/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py And here is where the problem occurs... When I attempt to run /var/mailman/bin/newlist mailman to create the newsite I get the following error... /var/mailman/bin/newlist mailman Enter the email of the person running the list: Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/mailman/bin/newlist, line 219, in ? main() File /var/mailman/bin/newlist, line 139, in main owner_mail = raw_input( EOFError: EOF when reading a line Can anyone offer a suggestion as to what I might have missed? TIA Mike PresData Services Mike Wharton 22 Barkly St, Mordialloc, Victoria, 3195 Phone: (03) 9580 5940 - Mobile 0413 189 198 Firefly Phone: 80189198 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Can't run qrunner because of permissions problem
Hello, Because I was having so much difficulty with my old, established Mailman installation on one of our Suns, I decided to try installing Mailman on a different machine to see if I get better results there. I've installed the latest version of Mailman but when I try running mailmanctl to start up the qrunner, I get the following message: Traceback (most recent call last): File bin/mailmanctl, line 547, in ? main() File bin/mailmanctl, line 410, in main fp = open(mm_cfg.PIDFILE, 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid' I've checked the permissions with check_perms and there are no permissions problems indicated. Anybody have any idea what is going on here? Thanks very much, Eric -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't run qrunner because of permissions problem
Thanks for you response, Mark. However, I've tried running mailmanctl both as root and as mailman and it still fails with the permission denied error on the pid file. So now I'm wondering if there is some kind of incompatibility between the new version of Mailman and Solaris 8? We have run Mailman 2.1.2 successfully on Solaris 8 before, but we recently upgraded to 2.1.5. If anybody has any further suggestions for things to try, I'd appreciate hearing them. Thanks, Eric The user that ran bin/mailmanctl does not have permission to create and/or write to the file '/usr/local/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid'. the bin/* scripts are normally not setgid which means you have to run bin/mailmanctl as a user (e.g. mailman) that has permission. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't run qrunner because of permissions problem
On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 12:09 -0500, Eric Evans wrote: Thanks for you response, Mark. However, I've tried running mailmanctl both as root and as mailman and it still fails with the permission denied error on the pid file. So now I'm wondering if there is some kind of incompatibility between the new version of Mailman and Solaris 8? We have run Mailman 2.1.2 successfully on Solaris 8 before, but we recently upgraded to 2.1.5. If anybody has any further suggestions for things to try, I'd appreciate hearing them. mailmanctl will attempt to run as mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP, mm_cfg.MAILMAN_USER if you run it as root unless you defeat it with the -u or --run-as-user argument. Let's start with the basics, what are the owner and group for the pid file which cannot be modified? If they are not mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP, mm_cfg.MAILMAN_USER then remove the file manually because most likely someone during initial testing/setup ran it in some other way. You should then be fine. Do verify the values of mm_cfg.MAILMAN_GROUP, mm_cfg.MAILMAN_USER. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Export Subscribers
Hi All, How would I export my subscribers from my lists. I have 85 lists. thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up
Hello, I think I've finally gotten my Mailman installation setup, but when I try to access the administrative webpages through my browser I get the generic Apache page coming up instead of the Mailman admin page. I would assume that DocumentRoot has to be set in the httpd.conf, but to what? The Mailman documentation doesn't say anything about this. Thanks, Eric -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up
On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 15:10 -0500, Eric Evans wrote: Hello, I think I've finally gotten my Mailman installation setup, but when I try to access the administrative webpages through my browser I get the generic Apache page coming up instead of the Mailman admin page. I would assume that DocumentRoot has to be set in the httpd.conf, but to what? The Mailman documentation doesn't say anything about this. Thanks, Eric Is your ScriptAlias defined? http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node10.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jdennis%40redhat.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.027.htp -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up
On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 15:35 -0500, Eric Evans wrote: Yes, the ScriptAlias is properly defined in my httpd.conf, as specified in the installation instructions. I still can't get the Mailman admin webpage to come up, just the Apache page instead. If anybody has any further troubleshooting ideas about this I'd appreciate hearing them. Thanks a lot... And did you restart Apache so it would reread its configuration? Are you getting a 404 Not Found error? Do you have any rewriting rules enabled which might rewrite the mailman URL by mistake? -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up
Yes, the ScriptAlias is properly defined in my httpd.conf, as specified in the installation instructions. I still can't get the Mailman admin webpage to come up, just the Apache page instead. If anybody has any further troubleshooting ideas about this I'd appreciate hearing them. Thanks a lot... Eric Is your ScriptAlias defined? http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node10.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jdennis%40redhat.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.027.htp -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce message confusion
Some clarification, here's the bounce message subscribers are getting. [ Your membership in the mailing list ScreenplayLab has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 26-Oct-2005. You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. You will receive 2 more reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted. ] There's nothing wrong with the subscribers email address. How do I tell mailman that our addresses is ok and stop it from annoying subscribers with spurious bounce warnings? Why is mailman doing this? Thank you, Robin Robin Rowe wrote: After my Mailman list exceeded 500 subscribers I started getting complaints from subscribers of spurious bounce messages. There's nothing wrong with their email addresses. I can't seem to turn these annoying bounce messages off in Mailman. What settings should I try? At my ISP the SMTP message rate seems to be throttled to 500/hour, and that may be what's triggering the bounce problem to begin with. Is there a setting to throttle Mailman so it won't overrun the mail server? My ISP has Mailman 2.1.6. I control it via it's web form, no shell. I'm not sure what approach to take with this problem. Any suggestions? Thank you, Robin -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/rower%40movieeditor.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] having trouble getting webpages to come up
On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 16:26 -0500, Eric Evans wrote: Hello again, And did you restart Apache so it would reread its configuration? Yes. Are you getting a 404 Not Found error? No, when I try to connect to the Mailman admin web page with my browser, I get a generic Apache page instead of the Mailman admin web page. Do you have any rewriting rules enabled which might rewrite the mailman URL by mistake? No, we're definitely not using any rewriting rules. What I'd really like to know is, what exactly is it that connects Mailman to Apache? Is it just that one ScriptAlias statement in the httpd.conf? If so, then how exactly how does this work? I'd really like to understand the process by which the Apache server is able to find the Mailman admin web page. There is clearly some kind of big disconnect between Mailman and Apache on our server. What connects mailman to apache can be answered two ways, both are important. 1) The proper URL, which makes sure you're connected to the right server, and it has the right path to get to the mailman cgi. 2) Apache must understand the path part of the URL is to be directed to mailman's cgi, this is what ScriptAlias does. For example: http://myserver.example.com/mailman/listinfo/mylist the myserver.example.com part of the URL directs to the web server on the node myserver in the domain example.com provided that's the right web server and its apache then apache looks at the path part of the URL, which is: mailman/listinfo/mylist ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ ScriptAlias tells apache that paths which have mailman should be translated so that mailman is replaced by the cgi location and executed. In this case the cgi location is /usr/local/lib/mailman/cgi-bin, it will try to find the script listinfo in that directory because that is the next part of the path and it will pass mylist as a parameter. See the following doc: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_alias.html#scriptalias -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] setting up mailman
Thanks Con, I did this and the result was /var/mailman/bin/check_perms No problems found Any other thoughts? Mike I believe you'll find it's a permissions issue. Try running ~mailman/ bin/check_perms and see what it says Con Wieland University of California at Irvine Network and Academic Computing Network and Support Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] 949.824.6134 949.824.2270 fax On Nov 17, 2005, at 12:20 AM, Mike Wharton wrote: Hi, I am trying to set up mailman on my server running Fedora 2. I have installed Mailman 2.1.5-10.fc2. I have followed the setup instruction contained in the Install document included with the install. I have done the following... Set the mailman.confg file /etc/httpd/config.d to point to my domain Stopped and restarted apache Set the site password using the /var/mailman/bin/mmsitepass Set the DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST (to a virtual domain on the server) in /var/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py And here is where the problem occurs... When I attempt to run /var/mailman/bin/newlist mailman to create the newsite I get the following error... /var/mailman/bin/newlist mailman Enter the email of the person running the list: Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/mailman/bin/newlist, line 219, in ? main() File /var/mailman/bin/newlist, line 139, in main owner_mail = raw_input( EOFError: EOF when reading a line Can anyone offer a suggestion as to what I might have missed? TIA Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] members list changed?
Previously when I went to memberslist I had 2 columns, one listed regular subscribers, the others listed subscriber's who were on digest. At the top it would give me the total number of each, and grand total. Now I have some wacky alphabetical checkboxes to check each one and see who and how many in A, B, C, etc.. I don't like this and I don't know what I did to change it from the way it was before. But I do want it back as it was, any help will be greatly appreciated. Bob Bales -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] members list changed?
Bob Bales wrote: Previously when I went to memberslist I had 2 columns, one listed regular subscribers, the others listed subscriber's who were on digest. At the top it would give me the total number of each, and grand total. Now I have some wacky alphabetical checkboxes to check each one and see who and how many in A, B, C, etc.. I don't like this and I don't know what I did to change it from the way it was before. But I do want it back as it was, any help will be greatly appreciated. The first list you refer to is the 'roster' which is available from the 'listinfo' page or directly at a URL like http://www.example.com/mailman/roster/list_name. Note however that this roster may be incomplete as it doesn't show 'hidden' members, but they are included in the totals and indicated at the top of the list as '(nn private members not shown)'. The second list you refer to is the membership management section of the admin interface which is at a URL like http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/list_name/members. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Setting up lists on a replacement list server w/ different name
I'm trying to convert an existing Solaris list server (using MajorDomo) over to a Linux-based (RHEL 3) Mailman setup. The old machine is called rushmore and the new Linux machine is called rushmorex. The idea is to replace rushmore with rushmorex (and change the name to be rushmore) once all the pieces of the new machine are in place and working. I've got things going on the new box w.r.t. Mailman. I created a new mailing list (converting an old e-mail alias into a formal list) and did a Mass Subscription to add the alias users to the new list. When the introductory e-mail went out, one (important) user quickly pointed out that he didn't like the idea of the new machine's name being used - he'd rather use [EMAIL PROTECTED] than [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have to say, I agree with him. It seems like Mailman is very machine name-sensitive - for example, if I try to create a list using http://rushmorex/cgi-bin/create it rejects it with No such virtual host, but if I use the FQHN http://rushmorex.my.do.main/cgi-bin/create it works. (I should note here that I am using Postfix on the new rushmorex host, but I am not using Virtual Domains anywhere in this setup - either in Postfix or in Mailman. It's a very simple setup at present.) I'm pretty new to Mailman and Postfix (I'm more familiar with Sendmail and Courier on Solaris) so I'm not really sure how to address this - I suppose one answer is to simply turn the old box off and rename the new one rushmore and *then* mass-create the lists on the new one so they all have rushmore tagged in them (from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to any embedded references to rushmore in the Mailman files), but that's a bit touchy - some of the lists on the old one are still used daily, and some are rather important (like our Section mailing list, used every day). I suppose another method would be to be sneaky and sneak in an MX change to send all mail intended for rushmore over to rushmorex instead and let it handle it that way, but then there's the race condition to get the new lists up and running so that it'll work as soon as the new MX kicks in. Does anyone have any suggestions for how I can best deal with this scenario? Thanks, - Greg -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] members list changed?
Mark, Thank you. I had been checking the subscribers list thru the listinfo page. CRS attacks again. The list shows 25 nondigested, 1 private member. I have looked everyplace to try and find out if I can turn off private memberships and can't find anyplace. Is there one? The guy I am doing this list for is going to go nuts when he finds out that there is a no name on the list, which is invitation only by him. How do I remove a private member? Thanks a bunch Mark you are a refreshing breath of knowledge in the web world. Bob Bales -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] members list changed?
Bob Bales wrote: The list shows 25 nondigested, 1 private member. I have looked everyplace to try and find out if I can turn off private memberships and can't find anyplace. Is there one? The guy I am doing this list for is going to go nuts when he finds out that there is a no name on the list, which is invitation only by him. How do I remove a private member? The private/hidden/Conceal yourself from subscriber list? flag is the 'hide' column on the admin Membership Management...-Membership List. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting up lists on a replacement list server w/different name
Greg Earle wrote: When the introductory e-mail went out, one (important) user quickly pointed out that he didn't like the idea of the new machine's name being used - he'd rather use [EMAIL PROTECTED] than [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have to say, I agree with him. It seems like Mailman is very machine name-sensitive - for example, if I try to create a list using http://rushmorex/cgi-bin/create it rejects it with No such virtual host, but if I use the FQHN http://rushmorex.my.do.main/cgi-bin/create it works. (I should note here that I am using Postfix on the new rushmorex host, but I am not using Virtual Domains anywhere in this setup - either in Postfix or in Mailman. It's a very simple setup at present.) Since you are not using virtual domains, you can set VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off in mm_cfg.py. This will cause mailman to ignore lots of host name discrepancies, but it won't really solve your problem. For example, it would allow you to create a list from http://rushmorex/cgi-bin/create, and such a list wiil have it's email host set to DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, but its web page url will be something like http://rushmorex/mailman/ (or whatever results from substituting 'rushmorex' into DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN) which wouldn't work from outside your local domain. I'm pretty new to Mailman and Postfix (I'm more familiar with Sendmail and Courier on Solaris) so I'm not really sure how to address this - I suppose one answer is to simply turn the old box off and rename the new one rushmore and *then* mass-create the lists on the new one so they all have rushmore tagged in them (from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to any embedded references to rushmore in the Mailman files), but that's a bit touchy - some of the lists on the old one are still used daily, and some are rather important (like our Section mailing list, used every day). If you were to do this, you wouldn't need to create lists on the new box. Just stop incoming mail on the old Machine, allow the queues to drain, copy the lists/ and archives/ directories from the old machine to the new and start mailman on the new machine and switch the DNS. I suppose another method would be to be sneaky and sneak in an MX change to send all mail intended for rushmore over to rushmorex instead and let it handle it that way, but then there's the race condition to get the new lists up and running so that it'll work as soon as the new MX kicks in. Does anyone have any suggestions for how I can best deal with this scenario? As above. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to limit the mail server to receive mail onlyfrom list member
Andy Gao wrote: I got a question on my mail server setup: How to configure MTA to only receive mail from the mailing list members. I don't know how you would do this, or why you would want to if you could. The first obvious problem is this would preclude anyone who wasn't already a list member from subscribing by email. Mailman already does a good job of rejecting or discarding mail to a list from non members. Why is this not sufficient? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List help
Charles Huberty wrote: Those were already set. Thanks though. On Nov 15, 2005, at 4:20 PM, Dan Phillips wrote: On Nov 15, 2005, at 2:28 PM, Charles Huberty wrote: I am currently running OS X 10.4.3. I have set up mailing lists and set the option for non members mail to be passed on through. I am still receiving requests to authorize non member posts. How do I make it stop? I want all posts to just be accepted. Check on the General Options page to see if Emergency moderation of all list traffic under additional settings about half way down the page is checked. Also, on the Membership Management page, make sure that Set everyone's moderation bit, including those members not currently visible at the bottom of the page is set to off. Just to be clear, Emergency moderation of all list traffic should be 'No', and the Set everyone's moderation bit, including those members not currently visible is an immediate action to be performed when the 'Set' button is clicked; it is not a persistent state. The persistent state which is affected when 'Set' is clicked is each current members moderation flag. As far as the problem is concerned, what is the reason for the hold as reported in the authorization request and on the admindb page? If generic_nonmember_action is accept, non-member posts should be accepted. If they aren't accepted, what do the notices say is the reason? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce message confusion
Robin == Robin Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robin There's nothing wrong with the subscribers email Robin address. How do I tell mailman that our addresses is ok You don't. The MTA (mail transfer agent, the program that actually sends the mail over the Internet) at your ISP is telling Mailman that it didn't deliver to those addresses, which is an error condition. Telling software to ignore errors is never a long-term solution, and if your inadvertant attempts to exceed your contractual limit continue, you could get booted by your ISP or labelled a spammer or other unpleasant things. Robin and stop it from annoying subscribers with spurious bounce Robin warnings? You fix the real problem. Unless you do that, subscribers will lose service at some point. Robin Why is mailman doing this? Because mail is bouncing back to it from those addresses. It's quite likely that you are correct about the ISP throttling being the cause. However, the bounces are real. Mailman itself does not even try to deal with external throttling, because it cannot know how to measure the rate, and it is not easy to distinguish between throttling and truly undeliverable addresses. Physical limitations and policy vary widely across ISPs. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.051.htp. In fact, the relevant feature (queueing the mail for later delivery when the service is available) is already built into the MTA. Your ISP has basically put a policy in place that says you can't use this feature; just behave yourself and everything will work. It's not a mailing list manager's purpose to help you work around those restrictions. You really need to get in touch with your ISP's support desk. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of TsukubaTennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can do free software business; ask what your business can do for free software. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stopped delivering mail
Eric Evans wrote: Mark, thanks very much for your suggestion. I did read the suggested page and tried the little diagnostics suggested there. They indicate no discrepancies, and yet I still can't get Mailman to deliver any messages. See the post at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-May/044742.html. This gives a more elaborate script that actually sends mail in exactly the same way as Mailman's SMTPDirect module. If you run this script as the mailman user, it should fail in the same way that mailman fails. The exact failure should help diagnose the error. If you find it fails in a way different from what's in the FAQ, please report the details and the solution :-) so we can update the FAQ. Note that it is important to do these tests as the mailman user. One person kept trying them as root and they never failed. It turned out that root could read /etc/hosts and mailman couldn't. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
