Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages Not being Distributed

2007-01-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I have 2 Lists setup under the MailMan software offered by HostForWeb.Com
>Account. One have 36 Email Accounts in the Group. Randomly, some messages
>other members send to the address does not get distributed. But I can look
>in the Archive and the message shows there.


Are you saying you have missing emails with one of the two lists, and
no missing emails with the other list?


>Is there someway to Re-Issue
>the Email or Resend it? I have 3 addresses on the system, and know I am not
>getting them in either accounts.


There may or may not be a way to reprocess a message depending on why
it is missing. If it wasn't sent at all due to a Mailman processing
error, it was probably put in Mailman's shunt queue and possibly can
be reprocessed if the underlying problem is fixed. OTOH, if it was
sent by Mailman, but not delivered for other reasons, Mailman can't
resend it.

To diagnose this problem further, you need access to the Mailman and
MTA logs on the server. Depending on what kind of hosting you have
with HostForWeb.Com, this may be something that you can do or
something you would have to take up with HostForWeb.Com. Also, judging
from the HostForWeb.Com web site, cPanel may be involved which adds
another layer of indirection. See
.

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[Mailman-Users] Messages Not being Distributed

2007-01-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have 2 Lists setup under the MailMan software offered by HostForWeb.Com
Account. One have 36 Email Accounts in the Group. Randomly, some messages
other members send to the address does not get distributed. But I can look
in the Archive and the message shows there. Is there someway to Re-Issue
the Email or Resend it? I have 3 addresses on the system, and know I am not
getting them in either accounts.

Appreciate the help or guidance on how to fix this Problem.

James King


mail2web - Check your email from the web at
http://mail2web.com/ .


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Re: [Mailman-Users] list names and virtual domains

2007-01-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>on a machine running many different virtual hosts, each time that a new
>list is created with mailman, mailman adds to the list name the full
>virtual domain name.
>
>I mean: if I create a list called
>   TEST at myhost.org
>in mailman it becomes
>TEST_MYHOST.ORG at myhost.org
>
>and I feel that this situation is quite odd.


I am guessing this is a cPanel Mailman. This is the technique that
cPanel and perhaps others use to allow lists of the same name in
different virtual domains.

See


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Re: [Mailman-Users] BoundaryError: No terminating boundary and notrailing empty line

2007-01-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
Noah wrote:
>
>any clues why mailman keeps dumping the following error trace in
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/error ?  Happens about every hour or so or
>sometimes minutes apart.
>
>
>--- snip ---
>
>Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Ignoring unparseable message:
>1166121349.6141329+c811d30798575d4ca57b9a0552a1d394a95c8ff1
>Dec 26 08:27:28 2006 (75889) Uncaught runner exception: No terminating
>boundary and no trailing empty line

The 'ignoring' message and the associated exception and traceback occur
because a 'defective' message has been sent to a Mailman address (a
list posting address or a list -request, -bounces, etc address) and
has been queued in the appropriate queue. When the appropriate runner
attempts to dequeue the message for processing, the dequeueing
mechanism attempts to parse the message into a Python email Message
object and gets the exception because the message has an unparseable
MIME structure.

Such messages are almost certainly unwanted spam in any case. This is
what we say about it in the code

  # It's possible to get here if the message was stored in the
  # pickle in plain text, and the metadata had a _parsemsg key
  # that was true, /and/ if the message had some bogosity in
  # it.  It's almost always going to be spam or bounced spam.
  # There's not much we can do (and we didn't even get the
  # metadata, so just log the exception and continue.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] OS X Permissions Help.

2007-01-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
Chris Florio wrote:
>
>As the instructions said, I configured using:
>
>sudo ./configure --prefix=/Applications/mailman --with-cgi-gid=www -- 
>with-mail-gid=mailman
>
>
>Using the instructions from the list I found, I am getting this error  
>posting to a list I created:
>
>..
>
>The Postfix program
>
>: Command died with status 2:
> "/Applications/mailman/mail/mailman post alumni". Command  
>output: Group
> mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be  
>executed as
> group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail  
>script as
> group "www".  Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as  
>group
> "mailman", or re-run configure,  providing the command line option
> `--with-mail-gid=www'.
>
>
>..
>
>So, I tried again using:
>
>sudo ./configure --prefix=/Applications/mailman --with-cgi-gid=www -- 
>with-mail-gid=www
>
>And then I get this error:
>
>   The Postfix program
>
>: Command died with status 2:
> "/Applications/mailman/mail/mailman post alumni". Command  
>output: Group
> mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be  
>executed as
> group "www", but the system's mail server executed the mail  
>script as group
> "mailman".  Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as  
>group "www",
> or re-run configure,  providing the command line option
> `--with-mail-gid=mailman'.



I suspect you made another change, either directly or indirectly in the
group ownership of the aliases file from which Postfix gets its
Mailman aliases.

Postfix will run the pipe to the Mailman mail wrapper as the user/group
that owns the aliases* files from which the pipe alias came.

If Mailman's Postfix integration (MTA = 'Postfix') is in use, the
aliases will be in Mailman's data/aliases and data/aliases.db and
these file will be group owned by 'mailman'. Thus, the first
configuration is correct as long as the aliases* files are owned by
the 'mailman' group which they need to be for the Postfix integration
to work.

Also see
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about Sender Filters

2007-01-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patrick Bogen wrote:
>
>Assuming you're talking about discard_these_NONmembers, then yes,
>adding the pattern in question to that filter will take effect if the
>address isn't matched by other filters. (The filters are applied in
>some order that I'm feeling too lazy to discover, right now.)


The filters/actions are tested in the order they appear on the web page
(accept, hold, reject, discard). The first one that matches is the
action taken. If none of the four match, then the generic action is
taken.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about Sender Filters

2007-01-04 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 1/4/07, Whitcomb, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and directed at my list.  I am curious if I put this company's domain
> name (in the same format as above) in to the "discard these members"
> field, will it get processed since it does not meet the "accept these
> nonmembers" filter, or will anything in filters subsequent to the accept
> filter be ignored?

Assuming you're talking about discard_these_NONmembers, then yes,
adding the pattern in question to that filter will take effect if the
address isn't matched by other filters. (The filters are applied in
some order that I'm feeling too lazy to discover, right now.)

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[Mailman-Users] Question about Sender Filters

2007-01-04 Thread Whitcomb, Jeff
I have a non-member filter set under "accept these nonmembers" to
^.*@mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >.  This accepts all
messages from my domain, then I have a reject message set in "nonmember
rejection notice".

 

I got an email this morning from a company who is getting bombarded with
these rejection messages because one of their addresses is being spoofed
and directed at my list.  I am curious if I put this company's domain
name (in the same format as above) in to the "discard these members"
field, will it get processed since it does not meet the "accept these
nonmembers" filter, or will anything in filters subsequent to the accept
filter be ignored?

 

I hope I explained this well enough and will try to clarify if needs be.

 

Thanks,

Jeff Whitcomb, MCP
Technology Services Manager
Cumberland School of Law - Samford University
205-726-4662

 

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