Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual hosts

2007-04-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:57 PM +0900 4/13/07, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

  Right, my point is that readers of the Mailman FAQ are are there
  because they're thinking Mailman 'should' be able to do something
  about this, but as I understand it (I haven't actually had to deal
  with, so I haven't seen it in the wild) you've saying the rewriting
  could be happening *anywhere*, so there's not much that Mailman can
  do.

Correct.  There's nothing that Mailman can do to help with this situation.

  So site admins need to make sure via the DNS, not Mailman, that what
  goes out is what is going to come back.  Right?

Also correct.  But we need something in our FAQ to identify what the 
real problem is and what the appropriate admins will have to do, 
because Mailman administrators will certainly be affected by this 
kind of thing, even if there's nothing they can do to prevent it.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML causing list-wide bounce?

2007-04-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:49 PM -0400 4/13/07, Paul Tomblin wrote:

  The email message causing the issue
  -- .html format http://www.soarol.com/tmp/EmailList-HTMLerror-2.html

  First comment - why the hell is he sending javascript in an email message?
  That plus the Paypal thing probably screams scammer to most mail
  filters.  Because it's happening to everybody, I'm betting it's an
  outgoing mail filter.

If so, then Michael would be well advised to look at the mail 
filtering process that is being used on the mail system and the 
Mailman server.  For obvious performance reasons, you want to do all 
mail filtering on the inbound leg only, and avoid any further 
filtering on the outbound leg.

If that had been done in this case, the message would have been 
rejected before it ever got to Mailman, and once the message was 
cleaned up, it wouldn't have resulted in all the rejections from the 
outbound filter -- because there wouldn't have been any outbound 
filter.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML causing list-wide bounce?

2007-04-14 Thread Paul Tomblin
Brad Knowles wrote:
 At 5:49 PM -0400 4/13/07, Paul Tomblin wrote:
 
  The email message causing the issue
  -- .html format http://www.soarol.com/tmp/EmailList-HTMLerror-2.html

  First comment - why the hell is he sending javascript in an email 
 message?
  That plus the Paypal thing probably screams scammer to most mail
  filters.  Because it's happening to everybody, I'm betting it's an
  outgoing mail filter.
 
 If so, then Michael would be well advised to look at the mail filtering 
 process that is being used on the mail system and the Mailman server.  
 For obvious performance reasons, you want to do all mail filtering on 
 the inbound leg only, and avoid any further filtering on the outbound leg.

I found that the postfix /etc/postfix/access file allows you to specify 
domains that can't send you email (for instance, I reject anything from 
*.com.cn), but it also prevents you from sending email to those domains.
So it's possible that a locally created email would not trigger any 
incoming mail filter but would trigger those same filters on the outbound.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with virtual domain

2007-04-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Giancarlo Rubio wrote:

I'm try to configure mailman with postfix and have a mistake when send
mail to server. The web interface is run correctly.


My list (virtual domain)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

My real domain
pontonetsistemas.com.br

When i send a mail to list i get this message (int the mta)

Apr 13 08:29:27 fileserver postfix/qmgr[53878]: E38C71CCD1:
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1722, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Apr 13 08:29:27 fileserver postfix/virtual[68735]: E38C71CCD1:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=virtual, delay=0.49,
delays=0.47/0.01/0/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user:
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
- Mostrar texto das mensagens anteriores -

I find similar errors on this list, but no way to solve this

My configurations files
snip

mailman/mm_cf.py
MTA = 'Postfix'

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['openbsd-br.org','openbsd-br.org']


It is unnecessary to have a domain listed more than once in
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS (but it does no harm).



Warning, I know almost nothing about Postfx.

All the mailman stuff, and as far as I can tell the Postfix stuff too,
looks fine to me. This is really a Postfix question, not a Mailman
question.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: Digests not working after upgrade

2007-04-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Yasean Khan wrote:
 
Senddigests when executed does nothing.. nothing gets written to the
log either.


Is there a lists/listname/digest.mbox file? Is the list's
digest_send_periodic attribute set to Yes?
  yes to both


Then assuming cron/sendigests is pointing at the right Mailman, a
digest should be sent or there should be some error reported in
Mailman's error log.

Is prefix set correctly in cron/paths.py? it should contain in your
case there should be

prefix = '/usr/lib/mailman/'

in cron/paths.py.

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