[Mailman-Users] 403 forbidden on public archives

2007-08-23 Thread Jewel Makda
I am really lost as to why I have some archives which are public working 
fine but I one some of my lists if I make them public I receive the 
following:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /pipermail/listname/ on this server.

I have read the discussion archives and have not found a solution to 
this.  I am running Mailman 2.1.7.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disabling confirmtionless subscriptions by listadmins

2007-08-23 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Aug 22, 2007, at 10:03 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:

 And, the heart of my
 question, can I disable those [ways a list admin could add  
 addresses without confirmation]?

 Of course, you can do anything if you're willing to hack the code, but
 short of that, all you can do is eliminate the entire Membership
 Management... section including the Membership List from the admin
 interface.

I don't want to do that.  I do want the list admin to be able send  
out invites, for example.

I think I will just have to either leave things as they are or modify  
the code.  Probably the easiest modification would simply be to  
remove the subscribe option from the mass subscription page.  Of  
course someone could work around that by sending a properly crafted  
HTTP POST, but those aren't the sorts of list-admins I'm worried about.

-j
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Re: [Mailman-Users] 403 forbidden on public archives

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jewel Makda wrote:

I am really lost as to why I have some archives which are public working 
fine but I one some of my lists if I make them public I receive the 
following:

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /pipermail/listname/ on this server.

I have read the discussion archives and have not found a solution to 
this.  I am running Mailman 2.1.7.


This is puzzling since most permission or web server config issues
would affect all public archives, not just some.

What is in your web server (apache?) error_log for this 403 error?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] 403 forbidden on public archives

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jewel Makda wrote:

[error] Symbloic link not allowed: /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/mylist

Mark Sapiro wrote:

 This is puzzling since most permission or web server config issues
 would affect all public archives, not just some.

 What is in your web server (apache?) error_log for this 403 error?



I think you need

Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public
Options +FollowSymLinks
/Directory
  
in your httpd.conf. I suspect you have multiple virtual hosts and you
may have this where it applies to some, but not all hosts.

You need to have the above in a place where it applies globally, or you
need to have it in each VirtualHost section that has Mailman lists.

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[Mailman-Users] problem updating mailman in Plesk from 2.15 to 2.19

2007-08-23 Thread Mervyn Kahn
 
Can anyone assist with resolving this problem for me?
Need to know about updating Mailman in Plesk from 2.15 to 2.19
I received the following response from Support at tecktonic who tried to
update Mailman for me:
 
I worked on this for quite a bit yesterday and came to the conclusion today
after talking 
with my senior that it runs the risk of breaking plesk by forcing an
install.
 
Also, there are currently no mailman 2.1.9 releases for the current distro 
you are running, CentOS 4.5. 
The release that I had been looking at in plesk was for CentOS 5.
 
If one is released it can be upgraded easily without fear of breaking
anything. 
This, however, is not the case at the moment.
 
Thank you.
 
Mervyn Kahn
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman -request problem

2007-08-23 Thread Brian Luria

 I have mulitple mailing lists setup - just set up and getting to know
 mailman (over majordomo)

 I am trying to use the -request option to have member lists sent to me

 Format:

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: who password

 At first I didn't think it was working at all, then (literally as I was
 typing this post, they came to my inbox - 40 minutes later!)

 Is there a setting that is making it take that long?!

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[Mailman-Users] Gnu Autotools: Mailman

2007-08-23 Thread Meenal Pant
My software uses Mailman. I am using GNU autotools to bundle my software
for distribution.  During ./configure I want to check if mailman is
installed and capture the path and version in  some variables. What rules 
should I define in configure.ac ? Look for mailmanctl using AC_CHECK_PROGS ? 
Thanks
Meenal

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman -request problem

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brian Luria wrote:

 I am trying to use the -request option to have member lists sent to me

 Format:

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: who password

 At first I didn't think it was working at all, then (literally as I was
 typing this post, they came to my inbox - 40 minutes later!)

 Is there a setting that is making it take that long?!


No.

Check the Received: headers in the response to see where the delay
occurred. If it occurred in Mailman, the most likely reason is a
backlogged 'out' queue.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Gnu Autotools: Mailman

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Meenal Pant wrote:

My software uses Mailman. I am using GNU autotools to bundle my software
for distribution.  During ./configure I want to check if mailman is
installed and capture the path and version in  some variables. What rules 
should I define in configure.ac ? Look for mailmanctl using AC_CHECK_PROGS ? 


This is more an autoconf question than a Mailman question, but ...

I don't know how you can do this in general, since on a given system,
Mailman can be installed anywhere and there is no guarantee or even
likelyhood that Mailman's bin/ directory is in the user's path. Also,
there is no guarantee that the Mailman userid is 'mailman'.

If you can find the Mailman installation, version information is in the
file Mailman/Version.py.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problem updating mailman in Plesk from 2.15 to 2.19

2007-08-23 Thread Brad Knowles
On 8/23/07, Mervyn Kahn wrote:

  If one is released it can be upgraded easily without fear of breaking
  anything.  This, however, is not the case at the moment.

I've worked at a project where they were using Plesk, and after a 
great deal of customization work by the hosting facility staff, they 
were able to work out a way to upgrade the system.


What they ended up doing was a from-source (not binary package) 
install of the appropriate recent version of Python for the updated 
version of Mailman, but in a separate non-standard location.  This 
way, you don't step on any programs or processes that are built-in to 
the system that need the old version of Python, but you can tell 
other programs where they can get the more up-to-date version.

Then they did a from-source (not binary package) install of the 
Mailman code, again in a non-standard location, and told it where to 
find the non-standard location for the more recent version of Python 
they had installed.  They then worked to integrate the new version of 
Mailman into the Plesk package, changing calling paths in the 
appropriate programs, using symlinks to change locations in binary 
programs that could not be edited, etc


My understanding is that, in the end, they were able to get most of 
the standard Plesk stuff working with the updated version of Mailman, 
but that some of what we consider to be Mailman-standard stuff was 
broken.  They didn't care, since they had their Plesk integration.

Oh, and since they needed to do the same sort of thing for various 
other packages on the system, and each one was dependant on a 
different version of Python, they ended up with about four or five 
versions of Python installed in various different locations.


Not fun.  But if you know what you're doing and you can handle doing 
installs direct from the original source code as opposed to keyboard 
monkeys who can't deal with anything that doesn't come in a 
pre-digested binary package, then you should be able to get where you 
want to be.

Just don't try to do this at Rackspace, 11, or any of those other 
lowest-common-denominator hosting facilities.

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