[Mailman-Users] Changing mm_cfg.py for existing lists
Hi, list, The problem I'm trying to solve is that Hotmail (and probably msn.com) do not accept our Mailman emails - this seems to be a new phenomenon. The error code is too many recipients. From other sources I assume that Hotmail now accept sonly max 9 recipients per one request, while Mailman's default maximum is 500. I try to solve this by adding SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 9 to my mm_cfg.py. After Mailman restart, this seems to have no effect on existing lists - like I expected. Apparently I should use withlist - but how? BTW, this is my first posting to the list. - Jussi -- Jussi Hirvi * Green Spot Topeliuksenkatu 15 C * 00250 Helsinki * Finland Tel. fax +358 9 493 981 * Mobile +358 40 771 2098 (only sms) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.greenspot.fi -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman sends only to listadmins
System: Strato.de root Server with ServerAdmin24 SuSE 10.2 mailman 2.1.9 exim 4.6.6 python 2.5 No Problem: Create List in SA24 Subscribe and unsubscribe process seems ok moderation seems ok Web gui seems ok no bad entries in mailman+exim logs Normal Users can send to list and recives You have sending to List the mails are in the archive all 8 qrunners are started Bad (the Problem) the command newlist prints no aliases Normal user dont recive any posted messages or archives or digest only listadmins recive the mails dirty hack: i have put all members into the adminlist Already checked: read http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.078.htp creating aliases in /etc/aliases then newaliases an restart exim and mailman What can i do? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Phantom moderation pending requests heldmsg files
A couple of weeks ago our Mailman 2.0 server crashed (a physical problem, it wasn't Mailman's fault!) and we had to upgrade to 2.1 in a real hurry. As a result, I had to copy the entire ~mailman/data directory... which may not have been such a good idea: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/data]$ ls -al | wc -l 40054 There are a _lot_ of files prefixed with heldmsg- in the data directory, as you can see. There are entries all the way back to 2005, in fact! I realize that I'm going to have to deal with all those files at some stage, but I currently have another problem. A user administers a list called ams-announce, and they are receiving emails with the subject The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has 31 request(s) waiting for your consideration. However, when they or I go to the admin interface, there are no pending requests. The user has been getting the same message for more than a week now, always with the same amount (31) of pending messages but there are never actually any messages there for the admin to discard. Oddly, there are no files prefixed with heldmsg-ams-announce in the / home/mailman/data directory, however I did grep for the string ams- announce in _all_ heldmsg files and there are many matches -- virtually all of it looks like spam. I suppose, then, that I have two questions: * how can I print how many moderation requests a list has pending, and is there a way to flush the pending requests from the command-line? (The FAQ entries deal with doing it via the web interface, before 2.1.5's feature of discard all messages) * can I print a list of what lists have what files pending in the format of heldmsg-$listname-$msgID, so that I can cross-reference the files I have on the filesystem (many of which are really old) with what the lists think need to be delievered? This is with a 2.1.9 server. Thanks, Chris -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing mm_cfg.py for existing lists
Jussi Hirvi wrote: I try to solve this by adding SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 9 to my mm_cfg.py. After Mailman restart, this seems to have no effect on existing lists - like I expected. SMTP_MAX_RCPTS is a setting that affects all SMTP delivery. It is not a list setting. Setting it in mm_cfg.py and restarting Mailman is all that is required. Why do you think it isn't effective? Note that if you mis spell SMTP_MAX_RCPTS in your mm_cfg.py setting, it won't work and there will be no complaint. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing mm_cfg.py for existing lists
The esteemed Jussi Hirvi has said: Hi, list, The problem I'm trying to solve is that Hotmail (and probably msn.com) do not accept our Mailman emails - this seems to be a new phenomenon. The error code is too many recipients. From other sources I assume that Hotmail now accept sonly max 9 recipients per one request, while Mailman's default maximum is 500. I try to solve this by adding SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 9 to my mm_cfg.py. After Mailman restart, this seems to have no effect on existing lists - like I expected. I think you will have to set the limit lower than 9. My list runs with SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 5 It has been a couple of years since I experimented with this, and the problem I was dealing with was that verizon.net would either accept mails immediately or defer them until the MTA expired them. With a limit of 5 recipients, I get good delivery to all of the big mail sites except yahoo.com. They will defer even single-recipient list priority mails during prime time, but deliver them within 24 hours. Read your MTA logs in addition to reading the bounce messages. I have had problems where the bounce message said one thing but the MTA log said something quite different. Hank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Clearing out stored attachments
Greetings, I'm currently running mailman-2.1.9 on a Tru64/Alpha system. I have archiving turned off for all the lists however I notice a large number of attachments stored in /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/listname. How can I manage and control the size number of these attachments so they don't continue to consume more and more disk space? Todd Todd Seeleman, Systems Analyst Penn Graduate School of Education 3440 Market Street, Rm 477email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Philadelphia, PA. 19104-3325 phone: 215-573-8378 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Clearing out stored attachments
Todd Seeleman wrote: I'm currently running mailman-2.1.9 on a Tru64/Alpha system. I have archiving turned off for all the lists however I notice a large number of attachments stored in /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/listname. How can I manage and control the size number of these attachments so they don't continue to consume more and more disk space? Since archiving is off, these attachments are being scrubbed and stored either from all messages if the list's scrub_nondigest is Yes, or from the plain text format digest. The options available are: - Use content filtering to remove the attachments before messages are sent, or - Do not scrub_nondigest, set digestable to No and change any current digest subscribers to regular, or - Set up a cron to go through archives/private/*/attachments/ and delete any directories older than x. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman sends only to listadmins
combie wrote: Bad (the Problem) the command newlist prints no aliases Normal user dont recive any posted messages or archives or digest only listadmins recive the mails dirty hack: i have put all members into the adminlist Already checked: read http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.078.htp creating aliases in /etc/aliases then newaliases an restart exim and mailman The normal setup with Exim doesn't use aliases. If it is set up according to the documents referred to in http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.019.htp, you will have MTA = None in mm_cfg.py, and no aliases will be generated or used. In any case, posts are being delivered to lists (incoming) and archived, so delivery to Mailman is working. I don't understand the rest of your problem at all. Normal posts are delivered to list members, and not to list owner or moderator. Addresses in the owner or moderator lists do not receive outgoing posts unless they are also list members. Since posts are reaching the archives, they are being accepted by the list and should be delivered to list members provided the members are regular members with delivery enabled and OutgoingRunner is processing the out/ queue. What's in Mailman's smtp, smtp-failure and bounce logs? What's in Mailman's out/ queue? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Phantom moderation pending requests heldmsg files
Chris Waltham wrote: A couple of weeks ago our Mailman 2.0 server crashed (a physical problem, it wasn't Mailman's fault!) and we had to upgrade to 2.1 in a real hurry. As a result, I had to copy the entire ~mailman/data directory... which may not have been such a good idea: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/data]$ ls -al | wc -l 40054 There are a _lot_ of files prefixed with heldmsg- in the data directory, as you can see. There are entries all the way back to 2005, in fact! I realize that I'm going to have to deal with all those files at some stage, but I currently have another problem. Depending on what else you did, these files may now be orphans, but see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.074.htp. A user administers a list called ams-announce, and they are receiving emails with the subject The [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list has 31 request(s) waiting for your consideration. However, when they or I go to the admin interface, there are no pending requests. The user has been getting the same message for more than a week now, always with the same amount (31) of pending messages but there are never actually any messages there for the admin to discard. Oddly, there are no files prefixed with heldmsg-ams-announce in the / home/mailman/data directory, however I did grep for the string ams- announce in _all_ heldmsg files and there are many matches -- virtually all of it looks like spam. I suppose, then, that I have two questions: * how can I print how many moderation requests a list has pending, and is there a way to flush the pending requests from the command-line? (The FAQ entries deal with doing it via the web interface, before 2.1.5's feature of discard all messages) * can I print a list of what lists have what files pending in the format of heldmsg-$listname-$msgID, so that I can cross-reference the files I have on the filesystem (many of which are really old) with what the lists think need to be delievered? First of all, the bogus '31 ams-announce moderator request(s)' email is almost certainly not coming from your current Mailman 2.1.9 installation. I have never seen a report of a case like this where the email was not coming from some old/backup/test/whatever installation whose cron/checkdbs was still being run. Second, the '31' has nothing to do with data/heldmsg-* files. These files have the messages themselves, but not the pending request information. The data for the 'moderator request(s)' email come from the lists/listname/request.pck file. If you want to see what's there, you can dump it with bin/dumpdb, and you can clear it by simply removing the file, although if you dump it first, I think you'll see it's devoid of requests just like the admindb interface says. As far as getting a list of what messages are pending for each list in the form heldmsg-$listname-$msgID is concerned, there's nothing that will give you that in a nice list, but if you go to a specific list's request.pck file and dump it with bin/dumpdb, you'll see one entry like 'version': (0, 1) and for each held message, entries like id: (1, (time, sender, subject, reason, filename, msgdata)) and entries with 2 or 3 as the first item of the value which are held subscribe and unsubscribe requests. In the held message entries, the key, id, is the number you call $msgID; time is the time in seconds that the message was held; sender, subject and reason are self explanitory; filename is the name of the held message file and msgdata is a dictionary of the message's metadata at the time it was held. Note that if you have any request.db files, these are residue from your prior installation. I don't know if you did an actual upgrade of your 2.0 installation to 2.1.9, but if you did, the data from the request,db files should have been automatically migrated to the request.pck files by bin/update as part of the 2.1.9 install. If that isn't what happened, then I'm not sure what you're faced with in terms of recovering any held messages. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Auto-accept incoming messages? (how?)
Is there a way for a subscribed user to have their messages accepted to the list without being moderated by default? In short, I want any new user once subscribed to be able to send a message to the list and have it received instead of having ot go in the admin area and turn off modeation flags and accept the delivery of the message. Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-accept incoming messages? (how?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way for a subscribed user to have their messages accepted to the list without being moderated by default? In short, I want any new user once subscribed to be able to send a message to the list and have it received instead of having ot go in the admin area and turn off modeation flags and accept the delivery of the message. Go to the list admin Privacy options...-Sender filters page and set default_member_Moderation to No. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
