[Mailman-Users] How big message size
Hi friend, I have some question How big usually you set message size in your mailing list server? I know the default is 40 KB but it's to small for user that want to share some file I'm affraid if I set message size to big it will cause some problem in the other day. Need Help please -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] From: header rewrite?
I'm looking to replace an ezmlm server with mailman and have installed mailman 2.1.9-7 on a debian server; lists work but I have a question: Is there an easy way to rewrite the From: address field? I have a list that is used as announce-only and would like it to appear to come from a non-list address (e.g., list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I would like the email to appear as from [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Reply-To: is good, but not what I'm looking for. The ezmlm analogue is creating a list using the -3 switch to rewrite the address. I have googled, gone through the archives and FAQ and cannot find this info (perhaps I'm not searching for the right terms?) Any help would be appreciated, many thanks in advance. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] From: header rewrite?
David Piniella wrote: I'm looking to replace an ezmlm server with mailman and have installed mailman 2.1.9-7 on a debian server; lists work but I have a question: Is there an easy way to rewrite the From: address field? I have a list that is used as announce-only and would like it to appear to come from a non-list address (e.g., list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I would like the email to appear as from [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Reply-To: is good, but not what I'm looking for. The ezmlm analogue is creating a list using the -3 switch to rewrite the address. I'm not sure what you're asking. If you want to know how to put the list address in From:, set General Options-anonymous_list to Yes. If you want to know how to change the domain of this address, put the desired domain in General Options-host_name. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] From: header rewrite?
Thanks for your reply, sorry if I was not clear, I'm specifically trying to not have the list address in the from address, nor the original sender's address say my list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the mail comes from user [EMAIL PROTECTED], i'd like the From: field to be Party News [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the list address or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried anonymous_list, but that's not what I'm looking for. - Original Message From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Piniella [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:45:53 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] From: header rewrite? David Piniella wrote: I'm looking to replace an ezmlm server with mailman and have installed mailman 2.1.9-7 on a debian server; lists work but I have a question: Is there an easy way to rewrite the From: address field? I have a list that is used as announce-only and would like it to appear to come from a non-list address (e.g., list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I would like the email to appear as from [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Reply-To: is good, but not what I'm looking for. The ezmlm analogue is creating a list using the -3 switch to rewrite the address. I'm not sure what you're asking. If you want to know how to put the list address in From:, set General Options-anonymous_list to Yes. If you want to know how to change the domain of this address, put the desired domain in General Options-host_name. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] General list information page
Hi; I was editing the General list information page for my GNU Mailman list. I accidentally deleted some of the standard code. Does anyone know where I can get a template for the General list information page? Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] General List Info Page without https?
Hi; I have a mailing list in the latest version of GNU Mailman. The URL for the General Information page is httS:// and asks people to approve going into an insecure site. The person hosting my mailing list understandably does not want to pay the $500 to get a secure certificate. This is a nonprofit thing he is doing out of his good graces for free. There is nothing being logged onto on this General Information page. Is there something I can suggest to him so that httS:// doesn't have to be used? Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] General List Info Page without https?
* Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi; I have a mailing list in the latest version of GNU Mailman. The URL for the General Information page is httS:// and asks people to approve going into an insecure site. The person hosting my mailing list understandably does not want to pay the $500 to get a secure certificate. This is a nonprofit thing he is doing out of his good graces for free. There is nothing being logged onto on this General Information page. Is there something I can suggest to him so that httS:// doesn't have to be used? ??? Just turn https: off. Mailman does NOT require HTTPS by default. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (i.A. des IT-Zentrums) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite - Universitätsmedizin BerlinTel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Gemeinsame Einrichtung von FU- und HU-BerlinFax. +49 (0)30-450 570-962 IT-Zentrum Standort CBF send no mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How big message size
Maickel Pandie wrote: Hi friend, I have some question How big usually you set message size in your mailing list server? I know the default is 40 KB but it's to small for user that want to share some file Generally speaking, you shouldn't be sharing files by e-mail. E-mail is not a File Transfer Protocol. The File Transfer Protocol is the File Transfer Protocol. HTTP can also work for this kind of function. But neither of these protocols are involved in e-mail. I'm affraid if I set message size to big it will cause some problem in the other day. Yup. That's why you want these values set to be low, because when you multiple large attachments by hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of recipients, you start talking about gigatbytes and terabytes of storage required, and gigabytes and terabytes of data that has to be transmitted to all recipients. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] From: header rewrite?
David Piniella wrote: Is there an easy way to rewrite the From: address field? I have a list that is used as announce-only and would like it to appear to come from a non-list address (e.g., list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I would like the email to appear as from [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Reply-To: is good, but not what I'm looking for. The ezmlm analogue is creating a list using the -3 switch to rewrite the address. Sorry, I don't know ezmlm, and I don't know that anyone here does. However, header rewrites of the sort you're talking about would seem to be more appropriate to be done in the MTA, not the mailing list manager. In Sendmail, postfix, or Exim, it should be pretty easy to make these kinds of changes by changing your masquerade database to rewrite these kinds of addresses. I have no idea how this concept might be applied to your MTA, however. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How big message size
I always change it. 40KB keeps out some longer text-only posts. I find that 200KB pretty much lets in all the posts I'd like to go in but tosses into moderation most attachments and full quotes of digests by clueless users. On small lists where we are doing work that requires exchange of files, I up it to 400KB or more so we can send the Word docs, graphics, etc as needed. Cyndi -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] From: header rewrite?
I mentioned ezmlm because I know how to do it there and figured that it might make what I wanted to do clearer. I'm using postfix on that box I think, I'll look into doing it via the MTA instead of the list software, thanks! - Original Message From: Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Piniella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:06:46 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] From: header rewrite? David Piniella wrote: Is there an easy way to rewrite the From: address field? I have a list that is used as announce-only and would like it to appear to come from a non-list address (e.g., list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I would like the email to appear as from [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Reply-To: is good, but not what I'm looking for. The ezmlm analogue is creating a list using the -3 switch to rewrite the address. Sorry, I don't know ezmlm, and I don't know that anyone here does. However, header rewrites of the sort you're talking about would seem to be more appropriate to be done in the MTA, not the mailing list manager. In Sendmail, postfix, or Exim, it should be pretty easy to make these kinds of changes by changing your masquerade database to rewrite these kinds of addresses. I have no idea how this concept might be applied to your MTA, however. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Fwd: General List Info Page without https?
Ralf; Is this something I can do as a list owner or do I need to the host where the mailman software is running to do it? If so, how would he do it? I would like to tell him and minimize his work as he is hosting my list for free. Thanks again for taking your time out for this info On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi; I have a mailing list in the latest version of GNU Mailman. The URL for the General Information page is httS:// and asks people to approve going into an insecure site. The person hosting my mailing list understandably does not want to pay the $500 to get a secure certificate. This is a nonprofit thing he is doing out of his good graces for free. There is nothing being logged onto on this General Information page. Is there something I can suggest to him so that httS:// doesn't have to be used? ??? Just turn https: off. Mailman does NOT require HTTPS by default. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (i.A. des IT-Zentrums) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite - Universitätsmedizin BerlinTel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Gemeinsame Einrichtung von FU- und HU-BerlinFax. +49 (0)30-450 570-962 IT-Zentrum Standort CBF send no mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/tinker123%40gmail.com Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: General List Info Page without https?
* Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ralf; Is this something I can do as a list owner or do I need to the host where the mailman software is running to do it? The latter. If so, how would he do it? Well, the hard part is activating it, so turning it off is easy :) -- Ralf Hildebrandt (i.A. des IT-Zentrums) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite - Universitätsmedizin BerlinTel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Gemeinsame Einrichtung von FU- und HU-BerlinFax. +49 (0)30-450 570-962 IT-Zentrum Standort CBF send no mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How big message size
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:11:46 +0700 Maickel Pandie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Maickel, How big usually you set message size in your mailing list server? I know the default is 40 KB but it's to small for user that want to share some file I run one list for a small group of users with a size limit of 5MB. Normally, I would not set it anywhere near this high, for similar reasons to those given by Brad Knowles. However, this list is for people that are not at all computer literate (it's a small group of genealogists researching the same family), so expecting them to learn how to use FTP would be an uphill struggle (some of them can't even turn off HTML in their email client, even with a step-by-step guide). I would suggest that increasing it much beyond 5MB may cause problems, not with Mailman, but mail servers. One of the users on the aforementioned list used to regularly miss messages that had large attachments. At the time, the size limit was 10MB. I asked about, and it seems that some servers just silently delete mail over a certain size (varies according to the server's settings, of course). Somewhere along the route to him, the messages would just get deleted. No courtesy messages were sent, either to him, or the list's server/me, to let us know what had happened. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent It's becoming an obsession Teenage Depression - Eddie The Hot Rods signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] header showing in message body, moderation notifications
Hi friends. 1. I seem to be getting a blank line after the Sender header. (or something is going on.) This makes it appear that some content headers are ending up in the message body in my Eudora message views. Any ideas how I can clear this up? As below. Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C8F0D3.E3792D44 2. Finally, can I get a notification email instantly when there is a message to moderate? The way it is right now, I only get notifications of pending moderated messages once per day. I looked around for this setting, and must have missed it. - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.redwoodalliance.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Permissions on Symbolic Links Files
I have on my Mailman 2.1.10 production system and my 2.1.11 test system both created from the SourceForge source and installed on Ubuntu dapper via packages I built: mailman% ls -al /var/lib/mailman total 40 drwxrwsr-x 10 root list 4096 2007-02-28 11:11 . drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 2008-04-04 13:31 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2008-06-30 16:13 bin - /usr/lib/mailman/bin lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2008-06-30 16:13 cron - /usr/lib/mailman/cron lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2008-06-30 16:13 Mailman - /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2008-06-30 16:13 scripts - /usr/lib/mailman/scripts Non-relevant lines from the ls -al listing have been removed. mailman% mailman# ls -al /usr/lib/mailman total 36 drwxr-xr-x 7 root list 4096 2007-02-28 11:11 . drwxr-xr-x 48 root root 12288 2008-06-09 12:24 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root list 4096 2008-07-23 14:55 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root list 4096 2008-07-23 14:55 cron drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 2008-07-23 14:55 mail drwxr-xr-x 11 root list 4096 2008-07-23 14:55 Mailman drwxr-xr-x 2 root list 4096 2008-07-23 14:55 scripts mailman# When I run check_perms it complains: mailman# check_perms directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/Mailman directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/bin directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/cron directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/scripts Problems found: 4 Re-run as list (or root) with -f flag to fix mailman# As Mailman is running fine, I do not want to change the permissions on the symbolic links. Is this correct? I have 755 for the permissions on the real files to which the symbolic links point. Is check_perms reporting on the permissions of the symlinks or the permissions of the real files to which the symbolic links point? What problems would I see if I do not have group write not 02 on these four files? Thanks. -- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone:+1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] header showing in message body, moderation notifications
Terri Oda wrote at 03:10 PM 7/28/2008: On 28-Jul-08, at 2:56 PM, Michael Welch wrote: 2. Finally, can I get a notification email instantly when there is a message to moderate? The way it is right now, I only get notifications of pending moderated messages once per day. I looked around for this setting, and must have missed it. It's right on the front page: Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests, as well as daily notices about collected ones? (Details for admin_immed_notify) Set that to yes and you're good to go! Terri Are you sure that is for moderated messages, or is that for requests to join? Mine is set to yes, and I do not get immediate message moderation notices. - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.redwoodalliance.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] header showing in message body, moderation notifications
On 28-Jul-08, at 2:56 PM, Michael Welch wrote: 2. Finally, can I get a notification email instantly when there is a message to moderate? The way it is right now, I only get notifications of pending moderated messages once per day. I looked around for this setting, and must have missed it. It's right on the front page: Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests, as well as daily notices about collected ones? (Details for admin_immed_notify) Set that to yes and you're good to go! Terri -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] How can one forward a rejected message to the list owner?
Hi, Mailman version version 2.1.9.cp2, this is running on a hosted environment. Basically my goal is simple, I need to reject/discard/not allow any non members from sending emails to my mailing list email address, but, I also need to the list mods to receive all reject/discard/not allowed emails. When looking at *Privacy options - Senders filters I have the option to send a reject no***tice to non members, but I only have an option to send discard posts to the list mods, no options to send automatic reply to discard emails, so it looks like I have two halves of a solution but no way to connect these halves. I ask the company who's hosting this machine, if I can forward the mailman email address to another address (either some external address outside of the list or one of the members) and they say it can not be done. Not having full access to the system (I run this thing through cPanel), I'm a bit confused about their reply. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Sagy Volkov ** -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions on Symbolic Links Files
Barry Finkel wrote: I have on my Mailman 2.1.10 production system and my 2.1.11 test system both created from the SourceForge source and installed on Ubuntu dapper via packages I built: mailman% ls -al /var/lib/mailman total 40 drwxrwsr-x 10 root list 4096 2007-02-28 11:11 . drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 2008-04-04 13:31 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2008-06-30 16:13 bin - /usr/lib/mailman/bin lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2008-06-30 16:13 cron - /usr/lib/mailman/cron lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2008-06-30 16:13 Mailman - /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2008-06-30 16:13 scripts - /usr/lib/mailman/scripts Non-relevant lines from the ls -al listing have been removed. mailman% mailman# ls -al /usr/lib/mailman total 36 drwxr-xr-x 7 root list 4096 2007-02-28 11:11 . drwxr-xr-x 48 root root 12288 2008-06-09 12:24 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root list 4096 2008-07-23 14:55 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root list 4096 2008-07-23 14:55 cron drwxrwsr-x 2 root list 4096 2008-07-23 14:55 mail drwxr-xr-x 11 root list 4096 2008-07-23 14:55 Mailman drwxr-xr-x 2 root list 4096 2008-07-23 14:55 scripts mailman# When I run check_perms it complains: mailman# check_perms directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/Mailman directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/bin directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/cron directory permissions must be 02775: /var/lib/mailman/scripts Problems found: 4 Re-run as list (or root) with -f flag to fix mailman# As Mailman is running fine, I do not want to change the permissions on the symbolic links. Is this correct? I have 755 for the permissions on the real files to which the symbolic links point. You can't change the permissions on a symlink itself anyway. Any attempt to do so will attempt to change the target. Is check_perms reporting on the permissions of the symlinks or the permissions of the real files to which the symbolic links point? The targets. What problems would I see if I do not have group write not 02 on these four files? Typically these directories are SETGID and group writable. The fact that they are not SETGID means that anything created subordinate to them will be created with the group of the creator and not the 'list' group. In practice the contents of these 4 directories are normally only read, so as long as everything is world readable, it will work. But if you applied a patch to some .py file in the Mailman directory, Mailman processes running as group 'list' might not have permission to update the corresponding .pyc file. I have to wonder why you are doing this with symlinks at all. It looks like what you really want is to run configure with --prefix=/usr/lib/mailman (the default), and --with-var-prefix=/var/lib/mailman or something similar. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can one forward a rejected message to the listowner?
Sagy Volkov wrote: Mailman version version 2.1.9.cp2, this is running on a hosted environment. Basically my goal is simple, I need to reject/discard/not allow any non members from sending emails to my mailing list email address, but, I also need to the list mods to receive all reject/discard/not allowed emails. When looking at *Privacy options - Senders filters I have the option to send a reject no***tice to non members, but I only have an option to send discard posts to the list mods, no options to send automatic reply to discard emails, so it looks like I have two halves of a solution but no way to connect these halves. I'm a bit confused. You seem to be saying that either 'reject' or 'discard' of a non-member post is acceptable, but then you say you want a notice to the poster which implies 'discard' is not acceptable. Anyway, you can set forward_auto_discards to Yes, to forward discarded (but not rejected) messages to the list owners and moderators. Messages from nonmembers which are discarded because the sender is in discard_these_nonmembers or generic_nonmember_action is discard will be forwarded. There are no standard settings to forward to the owners and moderators those messages which are 'rejected'. I ask the company who's hosting this machine, if I can forward the mailman email address to another address (either some external address outside of the list or one of the members) and they say it can not be done. Not having full access to the system (I run this thing through cPanel), I'm a bit confused about their reply. Their reply can mean anything from they don't know how to they don't want to for various reasons. Also see http://wiki.list.org/x/sYA9. If you want the owners/moderators to see every non-member post, have you considered 'holding' them instead? You could also set General Options-max_days_to_hold to some non-zero value to automatically discard them eventually. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] From: header rewrite?
David Piniella wrote: ... i'd like the From: field to be Party News [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the list address or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without modifying existing handlers or creating a custom handler http://wiki.list.org/x/l4A9, those are your only two options within Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] General list information page
Steve wrote: I was editing the General list information page for my GNU Mailman list. I accidentally deleted some of the standard code. Does anyone know where I can get a template for the General list information page? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/annotate/head:/templates/en/listinfo.html. Or in Mailman's templates/en/ directory on the Mailman host. Or just remove the file lists/listname/en/listinfo.html from the host installation to start over from the default. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] General List Info Page without https?
Steve wrote: I have a mailing list in the latest version of GNU Mailman. The URL for the General Information page is httS:// and asks people to approve going into an insecure site. The person hosting my mailing list understandably does not want to pay the $500 to get a secure certificate. This is a nonprofit thing he is doing out of his good graces for free. There is nothing being logged onto on this General Information page. Is there something I can suggest to him so that httS:// doesn't have to be used? What happens if you just go to the http:// url? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] header showing in message body, moderation notifications
Michael Welch wrote: Terri Oda wrote at 03:10 PM 7/28/2008: On 28-Jul-08, at 2:56 PM, Michael Welch wrote: 2. Finally, can I get a notification email instantly when there is a message to moderate? The way it is right now, I only get notifications of pending moderated messages once per day. I looked around for this setting, and must have missed it. It's right on the front page: Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests, as well as daily notices about collected ones? (Details for admin_immed_notify) Set that to yes and you're good to go! Terri Are you sure that is for moderated messages, or is that for requests to join? Mine is set to yes, and I do not get immediate message moderation notices. It's for all moderator requests. If it is set to Yes, and you get some owner notices, but not held posts, there must be some modification in your Mailman installation. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] header showing in message body, moderation notifications
Michael Welch wrote: 1. I seem to be getting a blank line after the Sender header. (or something is going on.) This makes it appear that some content headers are ending up in the message body in my Eudora message views. Any ideas how I can clear this up? As below. Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C8F0D3.E3792D44 Does this happen to all messages from Mailman? Mailman adds the Sender: and Errors-To: headers as one of the last steps in processing the message, and the get added to the end of the headers so there are three possibilities. The unlikely possibility is some other mail handling process added those headers after Mailman. The likely possibility is the message from Mailman has Content-Type: multipart/xxx (or possibly message/rfc822) and the Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C8F0D3.E3792D44 headers are actually the headers of a sub-part that Eudora is not properly rendering. The third (really unlikely) possibility is that Mailman's scrubber (if scrub_nondigest is Yes) or content filtering or addition of msg_header or msg_footer has munged the MIME structure of the message. What do all the headers (including part headers) of the entire raw message look like? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] header showing in message body, moderation notifications
Hi Mark. Thanks for your help. Mark Sapiro wrote at 06:17 PM 7/28/2008: 1. I seem to be getting a blank line after the Sender header. (or something is going on.) This makes it appear that some content headers are ending up in the message body in my Eudora message views. Any ideas how I can clear this up? As below. Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C8F0D3.E3792D44 Does this happen to all messages from Mailman? No, only to the ones that do not have the Content headers above the Sender and Errors-To headers. What do all the headers (including part headers) of the entire raw message look like? Not sure about raw, but here is one of the problem messages with Eudora's Show All Headers turned on, including through the first line of the message body: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from che.dreamhost.com (che.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.23]) by friskymail-mx1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004E0125C31 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from che.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by che.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3716FE8A; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:34:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.74]) by che.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B628EFE81 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.8] helo=mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1KNe6y-iD-RT for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:34:48 -0400 Received: from impout03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.3] helo=impout03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1KNe6y-fx-Qb; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:34:48 -0400 Received: from authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.8]) by impout03.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id vdao1Z0060ASqTN000; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:34:48 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: vdao1Z0060ASqTN000 Received: from cpe-68-172-92-234.nycap.res.rr.com ([68.172.92.234] helo=Earth) by authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1KNe6x-00063J-VT; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:34:48 -0400 From: xx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'RE-wrenches' [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:34:45 -0400 Organization: glb, Consulting Company Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@glbcc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcjvMBdkDbbOaQf3QRSZpdQ929oF8QAHxlrgAC3xi+AAAMk8QABESUDw Content-Language: en-us X-EN-UserInfo: 68146bc011f759eb9e1ef7151b459cc3:6156ae546b22151df025aba81cd654db X-EN-AuthUser: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-EN-OrigIP: 68.172.92.234 X-EN-OrigHost: cpe-68-172-92-234.nycap.res.rr.com Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] FW: anodization removal for painting/coating X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], RE-wrenches [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: RE-wrenches re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0913672171== Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0063_01C8F0F9.C2899AA0 Content-Language: en-us TSP is TriSodium Phosphate. - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.redwoodalliance.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] header showing in message body, moderation notifications
Hi Mark. Mark Sapiro wrote at 06:05 PM 7/28/2008: Michael Welch wrote: Terri Oda wrote at 03:10 PM 7/28/2008: It's right on the front page: Should the list moderators get immediate notice of new requests, as well as daily notices about collected ones? (Details for admin_immed_notify) Set that to yes and you're good to go! Terri Are you sure that is for moderated messages, or is that for requests to join? Mine is set to yes, and I do not get immediate message moderation notices. It's for all moderator requests. If it is set to Yes, and you get some owner notices, but not held posts, there must be some modification in your Mailman installation. Yikes, that would be weird. Unless there is a perceived threat on DreamHost's part, I cannot imagine them modifying that. Well, it probably will be no big deal, I had the whole list on Emergency Moderation until folks got used to the switchover from Topica. I turned that off this morning, and very few of the members are on individual moderation. Hmmm, do you suppose there is something in Emergency Moderation that causes individual moderation notices to not be sent? - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.redwoodalliance.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] header showing in message body, moderation notifications
Michael Welch wrote: Well, it probably will be no big deal, I had the whole list on Emergency Moderation until folks got used to the switchover from Topica. I turned that off this morning, and very few of the members are on individual moderation. Hmmm, do you suppose there is something in Emergency Moderation that causes individual moderation notices to not be sent? Absolutely. Notices are intentionally not sent for Emergency Moderation holds. The docstring for the Emergency Moderation handler says: Put an emergency hold on all messages otherwise approved. No notices are sent to either the sender or the list owner for emergency holds. I think they'd be too obnoxious. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] header showing in message body, moderation notifications
Michael Welch wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote at 06:17 PM 7/28/2008: Does this happen to all messages from Mailman? No, only to the ones that do not have the Content headers above the Sender and Errors-To headers. What do all the headers (including part headers) of the entire raw message look like? Not sure about raw, but here is one of the problem messages with Eudora's Show All Headers turned on, including through the first line of the message body: snip From: xx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'RE-wrenches' [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0913672171== Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0063_01C8F0F9.C2899AA0 Content-Language: en-us TSP is TriSodium Phosphate. So. I suspect the actual message structure is: multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain text/html some-other-parts and Eudora is showing you the text/plain part and not its headers, but is not suppressing the part headers for the multipart/alternative part. Can you find this message in the eudora mailbox? If so, that should be the raw message. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can one forward a rejected message to the listowner?
Mark, Thanks for the quick reply. To sort out the confusion, what i meant by acceptable is that how don't really care how the workflow will be (discard an email or reject an email), as long as the result is that member of the list will NOT get any email sent from non members, BUT, list moderators will receive any email, even the one that are discard rejected AND that those non members who got discard/reject will get an email notifying them they were rejected discard. Right now, in the current configuration screen I can see from cPanel, the mailman configuration, I can set auto reply to rejected messages from non members (which is good), but i can not set the list mods to receive those rejected emails. On the other hand, there's an option to have all discard emails from non members, going to list moderators, but non members who were discarded are not getting any auto email saying they were discarded. That's why I wrote, these two solutions tegother will give me what I want, but i can not find how to implement them via mailman admin panel. as for your 2nd suggestion, I don't want to use hold since that will mean mods will need need to approve any post and that's not what i want. Any suggestion/ways to fix this will be greatly appriciated. Thanks, Sagy Volkov On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sagy Volkov wrote: Mailman version version 2.1.9.cp2, this is running on a hosted environment. Basically my goal is simple, I need to reject/discard/not allow any non members from sending emails to my mailing list email address, but, I also need to the list mods to receive all reject/discard/not allowed emails. When looking at *Privacy options - Senders filters I have the option to send a reject no***tice to non members, but I only have an option to send discard posts to the list mods, no options to send automatic reply to discard emails, so it looks like I have two halves of a solution but no way to connect these halves. I'm a bit confused. You seem to be saying that either 'reject' or 'discard' of a non-member post is acceptable, but then you say you want a notice to the poster which implies 'discard' is not acceptable. Anyway, you can set forward_auto_discards to Yes, to forward discarded (but not rejected) messages to the list owners and moderators. Messages from nonmembers which are discarded because the sender is in discard_these_nonmembers or generic_nonmember_action is discard will be forwarded. There are no standard settings to forward to the owners and moderators those messages which are 'rejected'. I ask the company who's hosting this machine, if I can forward the mailman email address to another address (either some external address outside of the list or one of the members) and they say it can not be done. Not having full access to the system (I run this thing through cPanel), I'm a bit confused about their reply. Their reply can mean anything from they don't know how to they don't want to for various reasons. Also see http://wiki.list.org/x/sYA9. If you want the owners/moderators to see every non-member post, have you considered 'holding' them instead? You could also set General Options-max_days_to_hold to some non-zero value to automatically discard them eventually. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] header showing in message body, moderation notifications
Hi Mark. Pasted below. There was way too much ugly MS html to go all the way to that first line of text. Mark Sapiro wrote at 07:54 PM 7/28/2008: So. I suspect the actual message structure is: multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain text/html some-other-parts and Eudora is showing you the text/plain part and not its headers, but is not suppressing the part headers for the multipart/alternative part. Can you find this message in the eudora mailbox? If so, that should be the raw message. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 18:44:22 2008 X-Persona: re-wrenches.org POP Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from che.dreamhost.com (che.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.23]) by friskymail-mx1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004E0125C31 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from che.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by che.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3716FE8A; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:34:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.74]) by che.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B628EFE81 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.8] helo=mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1KNe6y-iD-RT for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:34:48 -0400 Received: from impout03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.3] helo=impout03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1KNe6y-fx-Qb; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:34:48 -0400 Received: from authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.8]) by impout03.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id vdao1Z0060ASqTN000; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:34:48 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: vdao1Z0060ASqTN000 Received: from cpe-68-172-92-234.nycap.res.rr.com ([68.172.92.234] helo=Earth) by authsmtp08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1KNe6x-00063J-VT; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:34:48 -0400 From: x [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: , 'RE-wrenches' [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:34:45 -0400 Organization: glb, Consulting Company Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@glbcc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcjvMBdkDbbOaQf3QRSZpdQ929oF8QAHxlrgAC3xi+AAAMk8QABESUDw Content-Language: en-us X-EN-UserInfo: 68146bc011f759eb9e1ef7151b459cc3:6156ae546b22151df025aba81cd654db X-EN-AuthUser: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-EN-OrigIP: 68.172.92.234 X-EN-OrigHost: cpe-68-172-92-234.nycap.res.rr.com Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] FW: anodization removal for painting/coating X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], RE-wrenches [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: RE-wrenches re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0913672171== Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0063_01C8F0F9.C2899AA0 Content-Language: en-us x-html (michael snipped here) - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.redwoodalliance.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How can one forward a rejected message to the listowner?
Sagy Volkov wrote: To sort out the confusion, what i meant by acceptable is that how don't really care how the workflow will be (discard an email or reject an email), as long as the result is that member of the list will NOT get any email sent from non members, BUT, list moderators will receive any email, even the one that are discard rejected AND that those non members who got discard/reject will get an email notifying them they were rejected discard. In Mailman terminology this is a reject. The difference between reject and discard is reject returns the post to the sender and discard does not. Right now, in the current configuration screen I can see from cPanel, the mailman configuration, I can set auto reply to rejected messages from non members (which is good), but i can not set the list mods to receive those rejected emails. That is correct. On the other hand, there's an option to have all discard emails from non members, going to list moderators, but non members who were discarded are not getting any auto email saying they were discarded. Also correct. That's why I wrote, these two solutions tegother will give me what I want, but i can not find how to implement them via mailman admin panel. Because you can't. You can either notivy the sender or the owners/moderators, but not both without Modifying the Mailman code. There is no configuration option to do what you want. as for your 2nd suggestion, I don't want to use hold since that will mean mods will need need to approve any post and that's not what i want. No. You can set the list members unmoderated and their posts will go through without moderator notice or action. You can then still set generic_nonmember_action to hold, and a post from a non-member will be held for moderator action and the nonmember will be notified. Also, if you want these discarded after a few days with no moderator action, you can set General Options-max_days_to_hold to some non-zero value to automatically discard them after that many days. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
