Re: [Mailman-Users] Greetings and Question
I would like to know if there is a simple way to download the entire list membership showing both each user's name and email address. Short answer: yes. ;-) Longer answer: mailto:listname-requ...@domain.tld who password HTH, Ulf Dunkel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change the text at the bottom of sent mails
Op 13-03-09 16:04 heeft Mark Sapiro als volgt van zich laten horen: Hendrik Maryns wrote: Btw, the FAQ seems to be messed up. Please be more specific about what is wrong with the FAQ so we can fix it. My question is the following: under the mails I get from my list, I see the following text: Mitarbeiter mailing list mitarbei...@weltladen-tuebingen.de http://mailman.biohostnet.de/mailman/listinfo/mitarbeiter The links are fine, but the first line bothers me: nowhere in the admin area did I find a place to change this, and in German, it is just plain wrong. Did I overlook something? These are on the web admin interface. Non-digest options (Non-Digest-Optionen) - msg_footer for individual messages and Digest options (Optionen für Nachrichtensammlungen) - digest_footer for digests. Thanks, that was it. The default text is rather cryptic, and therefore I hadn’t seen. Cheers, H. -- Opgepast | Achtung | Attention adressen gewijzigd! Adressen geändert! adresses changed! Hendrik Maryns Biesingerstraße 5 D-72070 Tübingen +491753353494 hamar...@googlemail.com http://tcl.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~hendrik/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change the text at the bottom of sent mails
Op 13-03-09 16:04 heeft Mark Sapiro als volgt van zich laten horen: Hendrik Maryns wrote: Btw, the FAQ seems to be messed up. Please be more specific about what is wrong with the FAQ so we can fix it. For a starters, the bottom of the Digest has Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Which redirects to http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Frequently+Asked+Questions Then, I’ve seen that this latter site has expanded over the last days, which is of course great. But I think the layout is quite confusing, with that Labels thing coming on top. That should be at the bottom. Also, it says “They're organized into several sections: click on each section to view the questions for that section, or use the View in Hierarchy link to see them all listed in a tree.” which is simply not true. And I had expected more and more specific questions. Cheers, H. -- Opgepast | Achtung | Attention adressen gewijzigd! Adressen geändert! adresses changed! Hendrik Maryns Biesingerstraße 5 D-72070 Tübingen +491753353494 hamar...@googlemail.com http://tcl.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~hendrik/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Greetings and Question
Longer answer: mailto:listname-requ...@domain.tld who password Apparently this doesn't work with the site password -- Fil -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Greetings and Question
Fil wrote: Longer answer: mailto:listname-requ...@domain.tld who password Apparently this doesn't work with the site password And it doesn't show anyone who has had their subscription hidden. If you want a complete canonical list, the only way is via the command line tool list_members. -- Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.orgIf you like Jazz/RB guitar, check out LinkedIn Profile: my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxuhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Greetings and Question
Brad Knowles wrote: Longer answer: mailto:listname-requ...@domain.tld who password Apparently this doesn't work with the site password And it doesn't show anyone who has had their subscription hidden. If you want a complete canonical list, the only way is via the command line tool list_members. Actually, I take that back. There are ways to script this from the web interface (STFFW -- search the fine FAQ Wiki), but there aren't any other native built-in tools that Mailman provides to give you a complete list of all subscribers. -- Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.orgIf you like Jazz/RB guitar, check out LinkedIn Profile: my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxuhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to change the text at the bottom of sent mails
Hendrik Maryns wrote: And I had expected more and more specific questions. What is there today is the result of questions that we have accumulated over the years, but obviously we can't put anything into the FAQ if people don't ask the questions, and if other people don't take those questions (and their answers) and put them in. If there are any specific questions you can think of that should be there, then please feel free to contribute them and provide the appropriate answers. -- Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.orgIf you like Jazz/RB guitar, check out LinkedIn Profile: my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxuhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Greetings and Question
Brad Knowles wrote: Fil wrote: Longer answer: mailto:listname-requ...@domain.tld who password Apparently this doesn't work with the site password This is intentional to discourage sending the plain text site password in an email. And it doesn't show anyone who has had their subscription hidden. As of 2.1.10, if authentication is with the list admin or moderator password, hidden members are shown. The same is true for the web roster. The following are the help messages for who depending on whether the roster is public, members only or admin only. PUBLICHELP = _( who See the non-hidden members of this mailing list. who password See everyone who is on this mailing list. The password is the list's admin or moderator password. ) MEMBERSONLYHELP = _( who password [address=address] See the non-hidden members of this mailing list. The roster is limited to list members only, and you must supply your membership password to retrieve it. If you're posting from an address other than your membership address, specify your membership address with `address=address' (no brackets around the email address, and no quotes!). If you provide the list's admin or moderator password, hidden members will be included. ) ADMINONLYHELP = _( who password See everyone who is on this mailing list. The roster is limited to list administrators and moderators only; you must supply the list admin or moderator password to retrieve the roster. ) -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ issues - was: How to change the text at the bottom of sentmails
Hendrik Maryns wrote: For a starters, the bottom of the Digest has Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Which redirects to http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Frequently+Asked+Questions The msg_footer has the current, short URL http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Brad - can you check and fix the digest_footer on the mailman lists. Then, I've seen that this latter site has expanded over the last days, which is of course great. But I think the layout is quite confusing, with that Labels thing coming on top. That should be at the bottom. Unfortunately, I think this is a Confluence thing over which we have no control. Also, it says They're organized into several sections: click on each section to view the questions for that section, or use the View in Hierarchy link to see them all listed in a tree. which is simply not true. What's not true? It works for me. And I had expected more and more specific questions. As Brad has already noted, it's a community driven wiki. We try to get common questions answered there, but I'm sure there are gaps. You can help. If you ask a question on this list that you think is a FAQ that isn't in the wiki, when you get the answer, add it to the wiki. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Incoming mail No
I've been tied up with other things and not been able to work on it, but I still can't use Mailman to send out posts because inbound traffic doesn't make it back to mailman. Thus, users register but their verification doesn't get verified, etc. When I attempt to send a post to mailman, my GroupWise (8) GWIA sends me an e-mail that completion of the e-mail has been delayed because the server (Linux) is down, which it isn't. This message repeats about every fifteen minutes or so. Since I've not worked with a Linux mail server before, what is the procedure, what software do I need, to send and receive e-mail using the Linux server as a regular user just to make sure mail is coming and going or to see where it might be hanging up? For install, will Thunderbird work, and, if so, how does it need to be configured? I realize this is very elementary, but it isn't cooperating like Novell's GroupWise or Microsoft's Exchange server. Thank you! Tim Tim Ferguson Director of Technology Centralia City Schools Centralia, Illinois 62801 618-532-1907, Ext. 1030 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming mail No
On 03/18/09 13:24, Tim Ferguson wrote: When I attempt to send a post to mailman, my GroupWise (8) GWIA sends me an e-mail that completion of the e-mail has been delayed because the server (Linux) is down, which it isn't. This message repeats about every fifteen minutes or so. Hum. This makes me believe that GWIA is not able to route email to the MTA, Postfix (guessing based on previous post), running on the Linux host. What (sub)domain are you using for your Mailman mailing lists? I.e. are your mailing lists part of your ccs135.com domain as in mailing_l...@ccs135.com or are they part of a sub-domain as in mailing_l...@sub_domain.ccs135.com? If you are using a sub-domain, do you have GWIA configured to route said sub domain to your Linux host? Since I've not worked with a Linux mail server before, what is the procedure, what software do I need, to send and receive e-mail using the Linux server as a regular user just to make sure mail is coming and going or to see where it might be hanging up? For install, will Thunderbird work, and, if so, how does it need to be configured? I realize this is very elementary, but it isn't cooperating like Novell's GroupWise or Microsoft's Exchange server. To start with, make sure that root on the Linux host can send it's self mail. I typically do something like 'ls' | mail -s Testing... root Note the single quotes around ls to turn off all formatting that may mess with the email. If that does work, try the same type of thing but sending the email to an address on the box with the full domain name on it. I.e. 'ls' | mail -s Testing... r...@example.net If that works, try sending the email to somewhere non local to the system. These all check sending of email, thus testing to make sure that your MTA is installed, functional, and running. If the above tests pass, then your problem likely is with routing email back in to the system. If you can, please give more details about your install as they will help in further diagnosing what is going on. Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] FAQ issues - was: How to change the text at the bottom of sentmails
Mark Sapiro wrote: Hendrik Maryns wrote: For a starters, the bottom of the Digest has Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Which redirects to http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Frequently+Asked+Questions The msg_footer has the current, short URL http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Brad - can you check and fix the digest_footer on the mailman lists. Fixed. Thanks! -- Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.orgIf you like Jazz/RB guitar, check out LinkedIn Profile: my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxuhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] LDAP and case-sensitive memberlist
Hello all, I have recently set up Mailman v2.1.19 and added the LDAPMemberAdaptor I picked up from See http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=871062group_id=103atid=300103. I did check the FAQ and search the list for the LDAP stuff. I configured it as per the docs and it works fine. When I look at the member list (via Mailman's web interface), all the email addresses are there with proper capitalization (it is how it is defined in our LDAP and I CANNOT change the LDAP entries). The problem is when anyone sends to the list, their posts are held for moderation because they are not a member of the list. I have looked at the detailed message source on the moderator's page to view the message source. It shows the sender's email address with the correct capitalization. However, Mailman appears to be comparing a lowercase version of the sender's email address to the properly capitalized member list derived from the LDAPMemberAdapter. Is there a way to force the comparison to be case-insensitive? Or, modify the LDAPMemberAdaptor to lowercase all the email addresses? Or, should I subscribe to the Mailman Developers list and repost there? Thank you for your consideration, Chris -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Self-Approval against From Forgeries
[ Apologies if this has been discussed before -- I couldn't find any mention ] [ of it in the FAQ. ] Certain lists of ours are sensitive and, hence, the members of the list want to ensure that messages are not sent to the list by an outsider that forges the From line of a valid list member. In our previous listserver, there was a self-approval mechanism for such lists -- i.e. when a message arrive purportedly from list member X, the message would be held and a confirmation request would be sent back to the address of X requesting that he reply to the confirmation message if he indeed was the author of the original message. Only after the confirmation-reply was received, the original message was sent off to the entire list. How can I implement such a self-approval mechanism in Mailman 2.1.11? ___ Ephraim Silverberg, CSE System Group,Phone number:972-2-6585521 Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel.Fax number: 972-2-5617723 WWW: http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~ephraim E-mail: ephr...@cse.huji.ac.il -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new server.
I have read everything I can find about moving mailman lists to a new server. It all seems so simple... My case SHOULD be even simpler. I'm moving from a Fedora 8 linux server to a Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, both are the 64 bit versions. Fedora system is an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+. The RHEL system is an Intel(R) Xeon(R) QUAD CPU E5405 @ 2.00GHz After this, it gets pretty similar. Both installs are the standard RPM installs. In both cases, mailman directory is /usr/lib/mailman. Data directory is /opt/mailman. This is a symbolic link from /var/lib/mailman. [r...@lists /]# ls -Fla /var/lib/mailman lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Feb 23 2008 /var/lib/mailman - /opt/mailman/ I created a new mailman list on the new server. I then tarred up the entire /opt/mailman tree on the old server and restored it on the new server. On the new server: /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_lists now shows ALL 31 of the lists. /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members listname will show the subscribers to any of the 31 lists. I can run the command mail test-l and the mail is sent to the test-l list on this server. My problem: The web interface only shows the one list I manually created on this server. Nothing else. Any ideas??? Help!!! Harold -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Support for Attachments?
We are looking into using Mailman to manage out mailing list but one key necessity is the mailing list must support attachments, and we should be able to restrict attachments so only certain types of files can be sent though the mailing list. Is Mailman capable of this? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Searchable Archive
What would be the best way to create a searchable archive of all messages on my server? Is there a script that works with mailman that does this that you could recommend? My users will need to search the archive occasionally and view the mail contents and download any attached files that mailman lets though. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new server.
Harold Pritchett wrote: My problem: The web interface only shows the one list I manually created on this server. Nothing else. See FAQ 4.62 at http://wiki.list.org/x/lYA9 and also FAQ 4.29 which is linked from it for the background. The short answer is run fix_url. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Support for Attachments?
RCB I.T. Solutions Webmaster wrote: We are looking into using Mailman to manage out mailing list but one key necessity is the mailing list must support attachments, and we should be able to restrict attachments so only certain types of files can be sent though the mailing list. Is Mailman capable of this? Yes. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Self-Approval against From Forgeries
Ephraim Silverberg wrote: Certain lists of ours are sensitive and, hence, the members of the list want to ensure that messages are not sent to the list by an outsider that forges the From line of a valid list member. Ok... Question: Why not look in to implementing (and requesting that members do too or provide an alternate email for this purpose) something like SPF and / or Domain Keys. If you run either or both filters and your subscribers publish records, it will be very difficult for messages to be spoofed. In our previous listserver, there was a self-approval mechanism for such lists -- i.e. when a message arrive purportedly from list member X, the message would be held and a confirmation request would be sent back to the address of X requesting that he reply to the confirmation message if he indeed was the author of the original message. Only after the confirmation-reply was received, the original message was sent off to the entire list. Interesting concept. It sounds a bit like challenge / response that never remembers beyond the message in question. How can I implement such a self-approval mechanism in Mailman 2.1.11? I don't believe there is any thing like that in Mailman. The closest thing that comes to mind would be some sort of moderation that requires approval and having the moderator email address by dynamic to the purported sender of the message(s) in question. Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] LDAP and case-sensitive memberlist
- Original Message --- Subject: [Mailman-Users] LDAP and case-sensitive memberlist From: Chris Nulk cn...@scu.edu Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:22:59 -0700 To: mailman-users@python.org Hello all, I have recently set up Mailman v2.1.19 and added the LDAPMemberAdaptor I picked up from See http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=871062group_id=103atid=300103. I did check the FAQ and search the list for the LDAP stuff. I configured it as per the docs and it works fine. When I look at the member list (via Mailman's web interface), all the email addresses are there with proper capitalization (it is how it is defined in our LDAP and I CANNOT change the LDAP entries). The problem is when anyone sends to the list, their posts are held for moderation because they are not a member of the list. I have looked at the detailed message source on the moderator's page to view the message source. It shows the sender's email address with the correct capitalization. However, Mailman appears to be comparing a lowercase version of the sender's email address to the properly capitalized member list derived from the LDAPMemberAdapter. Is there a way to force the comparison to be case-insensitive? Or, modify the LDAPMemberAdaptor to lowercase all the email addresses? This particular member adaptor assumes all email addresses in the LDAP database are lower case. Mailman itself has the concept of a case preserved email (CPE) and a lower case email (LCE) It uses the LCE as the key to look up a CPE or to verify if an LCE is a member. The member adaptor you are using doesn't distinguish between LCE and CPE and it only works if the email addresses in the LDAP database are lower case. In order to fix it, you would first need to have a way of finding the correct record in the LDAP database given only the LCE as a key. Since the member adaptor seems (via its __ldap_load_members() method) to keep all the list member emails in memory anyway, you could augment that method to build another dictionary with LCE as key and CPE as data and use that. Then you would need to modify the member adaptor to do what it's supposed to do. It seems to preserve the doc strings which define what the methods should do. You'd just need to make them do that. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Self-Approval against From Forgeries
Grant Taylor wrote: Ephraim Silverberg wrote: How can I implement such a self-approval mechanism in Mailman 2.1.11? I don't believe there is any thing like that in Mailman. The closest thing that comes to mind would be some sort of moderation that requires approval and having the moderator email address by dynamic to the purported sender of the message(s) in question. Actually, Mailman is pretty close already. If you moderate everyone and set respond_to_post_requests to yes, each post will be held and the user will get an email with a confirmation token. The thing that's lacking is this confirmation only allows the user to cancel the post or continue to wait for moderator approval, but you could modify the confirmation process to allow the user to approve the post if the reason it is held is moderation. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Self-Approval against From Forgeries
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 07:15:58PM -0500, Grant Taylor wrote: Ephraim Silverberg wrote: Certain lists of ours are sensitive and, hence, the members of the list want to ensure that messages are not sent to the list by an outsider that forges the From line of a valid list member. Ok... Question: Why not look in to implementing (and requesting that members do too or provide an alternate email for this purpose) something like SPF and / or Domain Keys. If you run either or both filters and your subscribers publish records, it will be very difficult for messages to be spoofed. Or, perhaps, just use gpg/pgp. (I'm not a fan of SPF) -- ``Nothing says `unprofessional job' like wrinkles in duct tape.'' (seen on the Internet) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new server.
Harold Pritchett wrote: Thanks... An even shorter answer is VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off I'm not using virtual hosts. But you still need to run fix_url because otherwise you will be exposing URLs with the old host name, and if your Mailman version is pre 2.1.12 (the first version in which relative web page URLs actually worked), all the links on the web interface and the POST actions will still point to the old host. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Searchable Archive
RCB I.T. Solutions Webmaster wrote: What would be the best way to create a searchable archive of all messages on my server? Is there a script that works with mailman that does this that you could recommend? My users will need to search the archive occasionally and view the mail contents and download any attached files that mailman lets though. Most everything we know is in the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/MoA9. Personally, I use ht://Dig in conjunction with Richard Barrett's patches to put a search form on the archive Table of Contents and integrate with ht://Dig. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail No
This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a post to the list. Tim Tim Ferguson Director of Technology Centralia City Schools Centralia, Illinois 62801 618-532-1907, Ext. 1030 On 3/18/2009 at 9:14 PM, CCS135_D.GWIA.GATEWAY wrote: The message that you sent has been delayed. The reason given for the delay: 450 Host down (hearye.ccs135.com) Information about your message: Subject: Special Announcement GroupWise Message Id: 49C1AA79.72D:189:6866 Message log tag: 1135103 Number of send attempts: 1 Time of initial send attempt: 03-18-09 21:14:37 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail No
Tim Ferguson wrote: This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a post to the list. Tim Tim Ferguson Director of Technology Centralia City Schools Centralia, Illinois 62801 618-532-1907, Ext. 1030 On 3/18/2009 at 9:14 PM, CCS135_D.GWIA.GATEWAY wrote: The message that you sent has been delayed. The reason given for the delay: 450 Host down (hearye.ccs135.com) There is nothing listening on port 25 at hearye.ccs135.com. Do you have an MTA running on that machine? Is it configured to listen on port 25? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail No
Tim Ferguson wrote: This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a post to the list. I don't know if you have a firewall in between the Hearye and the world or not, but form the internets (and I believe GWIA's) perspective Hearye is not listing to port 25 on it's 209.174.197.37 IP. Please make sure that Postfix is configured to bind to port 25 on 209.174.197.37. Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail No
Tim Ferguson writes: This is the message I continue to receive when trying to send a post to the list. The message that you sent has been delayed. The reason given for the delay: 450 Host down (hearye.ccs135.com) This looks highly unlikely to be a Mailman problem, nor an MTA problem. If Mailman were broken, the post would bounce back (no such mailbox or the like) or just disappear (and you would eventually find it in Mailman's queue). If the MTA were down, you'd get connection refused. If it were broken, the post would just disappear, to be found in the MTA's queue. Start by checking for a network problem. Is the host plugged in to the network? Is its IP address the one that DNS assigns to hearye? Is that interface up? Is there a route from the GroupWise host to the Linux host? Is it correct? What about firewalls? Many organizations have firewalls that filter port 25 to all but a few registered MXes. BTW, this is not the place to get additional help until you have confirmed that Mailman is visible to the world outside of the Linux host. For general network problems and Linux advice, I strongly recommend getting in touch with your local Linux Users Group (or Unix or *BSD Users Group). LUG members are by and large happy to provide concrete advice, and (if your organization permits) even free hands-on diagnosis at off hours (well, not quite free, usual fee is pizza and beer ;-). -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new server.
Harold Pritchett wrote:
This is strange. Setting VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW works. Running fix_url
doesn't. Here's the output of withlist -l -r fix_url test-l -v
[r...@calserv bin]# ./withlist -l -r fix_url test-l -v
Importing fix_url...
Running fix_url.fix_url()...
Loading list test-l (locked)
Setting web_page_url to: http://calserv.calconnect.org/mailman/
Setting host_name to: calserv.calconnect.org
Saving list
Finalizing
[r...@calserv bin]#
and it still doesn't show up in the web list of lists...
It will if you go to http://calserv.calconnect.org/mailman/listinfo
Here's the active part of my mm_cfg.py:
# Default to using the FQDN of machine mailman is running on.
# If this is not correct for your installation delete the following 5
# lines that acquire the FQDN and manually edit the hosts instead.
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'xxx.yyy.org'
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'xxx.yyy.org'
# Because we've overriden the virtual hosts above add_virtualhost
# MUST be called after they have been defined.
VIRTUAL_HOSTS = {}
No No No !!!
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
Otherwise what happens is mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOSTS becomes this new, empty
dictionary, but
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
add_virtualhost() which was defined in Defaults.py adds to
Defaults.VIRTUAL_HOST and that is no longer the same as
mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOSTS.
The linux hostname command returns the same name (xxx.yyy.org)
Is there some way to actually display the names that mailman thinks
are the host names and to dump the internal names within the lists?
bin/withlist LISTNAME
...
...
from Mailman import mm_cfg
mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOSTS
(display of dictionary)
m.web_page_url
(display of list's web_page_url attribute)
control-D to quit
Could this be a problem with SELINUX??
Harold
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Incoming Mail No
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: If the MTA were down, you'd get connection refused. If it were broken, the post would just disappear, to be found in the MTA's queue. After sending some emails back and forth with the OP, including some from the Linux / Mailman host in question, I believe the problem to be a mis-configuration with the OP's MTA. It appears (according to headers) as if the OP is using fetchmail to pull messages out of a POP3 mail box on the GroupWise system and then injecting them via SMTP to the Linux / Mailman host. Postfix is then performing some expansion and messing up the delivery (hence the bounce(s) that I have received) and bouncing messages. As such I can be sure that Postfix is running on the Linux / Mailman host and that it knows how to send messages out to the world. I can also be sure that based on the contents of the DSN mail...@localhost.ccs135.com (expanded from mail...@localhost) That something, likely Postfix, is not configured properly on the Linux / Maiman host. Start by checking for a network problem. Is the host plugged in to the network? Is its IP address the one that DNS assigns to hearye? Is that interface up? Is there a route from the GroupWise host to the Linux host? Is it correct? What about firewalls? Many organizations have firewalls that filter port 25 to all but a few registered MXes. There may or may not be a firewall between the Linux / Mailman host, but seeing as how the OP is using fetchmail to retrieve messages from GroupWise, it does not really matter if the world can reach the Linux / Mailman host in question or not. Though, for email to function, there really does need to be an email server that is willing to accept email for the addresses that the Linux / Mailman host is sending out as. In this case, GroupWise is doing just fine. BTW, this is not the place to get additional help until you have confirmed that Mailman is visible to the world outside of the Linux host. For general network problems and Linux advice, I strongly recommend getting in touch with your local Linux Users Group (or Unix or *BSD Users Group). LUG members are by and large happy to provide concrete advice, and (if your organization permits) even free hands-on diagnosis at off hours (well, not quite free, usual fee is pizza and beer ;-). Agreed. Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
