Re: [Mailman-Users] Check_perms reports invalid syntax?

2009-04-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bill Christensen wrote:

I'm setting up a new server with Mailman.

After installing I tried
   bin/check_perms -f
and got:
   file bin/check_perms, line 44
   '''
  ^
Syntax error: invalid syntax

I'm running Python 2.5.1.   My existing server, running Mailman 
2.1.11/Python 2.3, has the same line and no problems with it.

Any ideas?   Do I need to upgrade or patch Python, and if so which 
2.5 or better version works with Mailman?


Python 2.5.1 should be file for Mailman 2.1.11 or 2.1.12. There is
nothing about the statement

try:
import paths
except ImportError:
print '''Could not import paths!

This probably means that you are trying to run check_perms from the
source
directory.  You must run this from the installation directory instead.
'''
raise
-

That should throw a syntax error with any Python 2.x version. Is
bin/check_perms garbled somehow. Have you tried diffing it with your
existing server version?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Soft bounces....

2009-04-06 Thread Charles Gregory

On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Brad Knowles wrote:

What do (Yahoo) mean different classes of mail?


Personal, Commercial, Listmail. I can see their point. If listmail tries 
to send mail to a 5xx address for a couple of days, that 'lowers the 
reputation' of that IP more than when a personal mail gets a 5xx and the 
human sending it doesn't send any more mail to that address


Still means that list mail has slowdowns, but personal mail won't

If you're using postfix, it should be easy enough to tell it to use a 
given IP address when transmitting mail to yahoo.com, and use a 
different address when transmitting to anywhere else.


This is the second postfix capability (the other was 'separate queues') 
that has been referenced that I find interesting. Could you kindly point 
me to a decent manual/doc/faq for either of these? Particularly adjusting 
sending IP according to sender address would be VERY cool
(Or please reply personally if you think a quick reply would suffice. I 
don't want to clutter the list with OT material).


Thanks!

- Charles
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[Mailman-Users] no publicly-advertised Mailman mailing lists error

2009-04-06 Thread Greg Earle
I'm trying to move an existing Mailman 2.1.9 (with ht://Dig patches 
integrated) from an old machine running RHEL 3 Update 9 onto a newer 
machine running RHEL 5 Update 3.


I've copied everything across that I can find, but when I go to the main 
.../mailman/ list info page on the new machine, I get a page saying


There currently are no publicly-advertised Mailman mailing lists on 
[new host].


Obviously on the present host I get all the current lists, delineated.

Oddly, if I go to an individual list page, it works for both the new and 
the old servers.  Even the ht://Dig archives page works for both.  It 
just seems to be the main list info page that isn't working.


Obviously I've overlooked one(?) small thing someplace - what is it?

Thanks in advance,

- Greg


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wiki maintenance

2009-04-06 Thread Barry Warsaw

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On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:


Barry Warsaw wrote:

Please note that our hosting provider will be conducting some  
schedule maintenance on our wiki instance.  Thus wiki.list.org will  
be unavailable starting at 0900 UTC Saturday April 4, for a few  
hours.


So says the FLUFL, so shall it be.


Just wait to you see from __future__ import barry_as_FLUFL littered  
all over the Mailman code :)


Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] no publicly-advertised Mailman mailing lists error

2009-04-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Greg Earle wrote:

I've copied everything across that I can find, but when I go to the main 
.../mailman/ list info page on the new machine, I get a page saying

There currently are no publicly-advertised Mailman mailing lists on 
[new host].

Obviously on the present host I get all the current lists, delineated.

Oddly, if I go to an individual list page, it works for both the new and 
the old servers.  Even the ht://Dig archives page works for both.  It 
just seems to be the main list info page that isn't working.

Obviously I've overlooked one(?) small thing someplace - what is it?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to receive Zimbra-generated mail forwardedby Mailman

2009-04-06 Thread Pete Smith
Unfortunately, I don't control the installations of Mailman where 
this is happening, and each of those supports a wide variety of 
mailing lists that have many digest subscribers.  Fortunately, one of 
the Mailman developers is on the case, and I hope your message will 
point him in a useful direction.


Pete Smith

At 01:03 PM 4/6/2009, Jim wrote:

Hi Pete - we just had a similar problem here last week (not with Zimbra,
but with Entourage). When a newsletter was sent via regular mail, it
looked
fine in Entourage. When it was sent through the mailing list, it was
crap.
When we compared the source code of each message, we found one tiny
difference.
Some extra code was added by Mailman. So what we did to fix it is we
went into
[Digest Options] and blanked out the stuff in Footer added to every
digest.
That seemed to do the trick. It eliminated those 3 lines of code that
Entourage
had such trouble rendering. It seems to stick them in every message,
even if you
have no digest users.

After figuring this out (it took us like a week of experimenting) I was
able to
find this in the Mailman archives (I just wasn't searching for the right
things),
so others have had this problem too. Try it!

 - jim -


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[Mailman-Users] setting up the mailing list

2009-04-06 Thread Rasa Isaacson
Our organization wants to set up a mailing list in a very generic fashion.
We would like to list the board members as approved members using the
generic emails we have set up:
presid...@ourwebsite.org
vicepresid...@outwebsite.org
etc...

We have a forwarder set up through our website (hosted by Lunarpages--don't
know if that matters) that associates the generic email address to the
personal email account for the board member, so if a email sent to
presid...@ourwebsite.org is received it's forwarded to the appropriate
personal account.

Is there something analogous in mailman to associate a personal email
account with the generic account on incoming posts to the board? Like an
alias, but looking at the From: field and translating it to the generic
account like presid...@ourwebsite.org.

I hope this makes sense. Thanks.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] setting up the mailing list

2009-04-06 Thread Brad Knowles

on 4/5/09 8:07 AM, Rasa Isaacson said:


Is there something analogous in mailman to associate a personal email
account with the generic account on incoming posts to the board? Like an
alias, but looking at the From: field and translating it to the generic
account like presid...@ourwebsite.org.


Unfortunately, no.  The best you could do would be to have the senders 
configure their mail programs so that when they send official messages, 
they can choose to send them from their official account.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Soft bounces....

2009-04-06 Thread Brad Knowles

on 4/6/09 10:38 AM, Charles Gregory said:

Personal, Commercial, Listmail. I can see their point. If listmail tries 
to send mail to a 5xx address for a couple of days, that 'lowers the 
reputation' of that IP more than when a personal mail gets a 5xx and the 
human sending it doesn't send any more mail to that address


How do you know what is personal and what is commercial?  I assume you 
can detect what is listmail by looking at the message or certain other 
factors


This is the second postfix capability (the other was 'separate queues') 
that has been referenced that I find interesting. Could you kindly point 
me to a decent manual/doc/faq for either of these? Particularly 
adjusting sending IP according to sender address would be VERY cool
(Or please reply personally if you think a quick reply would suffice. I 
don't want to clutter the list with OT material).


Basically, you're looking to set up special postfix transport maps.  A 
couple of examples are discussed at 
http://www.postfix.org/QSHAPE_README.html, but I'm sure the 
documentation, the FAQ, and the archives of the postfix-users mailing 
list would have a lot more examples that might be more useful to you.


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