Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman appends hostname to some address on mail list
on 5/3/09 8:34 PM, Tom Tilmant said: 2009-05-03 13:27:54 [20088] 1M0iHw-0005Dq-2U = pers...@pacbell.net F=parents-boun...@domian.com P=parents-boun...@domian.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp S=4894 H=pbimail2.prodigy.net [207.115.21.23]:25 C=250 2.0.0 n43KRqOE012511 Message accepted for delivery QT=2s DT=2s That looks like qmail. I'm not sure there are many people on this list who know anything about qmail. 2009-05-03 16:12:52 [20088] H=localhost (myhost.DOMAIN.com) [127.0.0.1]:45816 I=[127.0.0.1]:25 F=mailman-boun...@myhost.domain.com temporarily rejected RCPT pers...@sbcglobal.net: Could not complete sender verify Looks like they tried to do Sender Address Verification, which is a really bad idea (see http://taint.org/2007/03/16/134743a.html). Regardless, they are configured to do SAV, and your system didn't verify that address as valid (which is not uncommon for qmail, IIRC), so your message failed to be accepted. There's not much you can do about this, unless you can get the recipient system to stop doing SAV, or you can fix your qmail installation to actually validate those addresses. Like I said, I don't know that there's anyone here who understands much about qmail. My service provider claims not to support mailman any longer all through its still part of the Cpanel install. IMO, if you're using cPanel, and your service provider is no longer providing support for the system you're using, then you've got the wrong service provider. There are some service providers that are active on this mailing list, and I'm sure one or more of them would be more than happy to talk to you about your requirements and whether or not they could help you move your services to a different system where you can actually get the support you should be getting. -- Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.orgIf you like Jazz/RB guitar, check out LinkedIn Profile: my friend bigsbytracks on YouTube at http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxuhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/bigsbytracks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Robots Tag
On Sat, 02 May 2009 16:53:26 -0400 John Webb we...@swva.net wrote: Hello John, Thanks Brad. Any idea what I need to do to get index/follow into my You're welcome. archives html? Mark has answered that. Which is great, 'coz I had no idea where to look! :-) -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent I'd hate to look into those eyes and see an ounce of pain Sweet Child O'Mine - Guns 'N' Roses signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman appends hostname to some address on maillist
Tom Tilmant wrote: I have been using mailman for several years with my current VPS provider. About a month ago I started getting complaints from users that they were not receiving e-mails. I have a spam problem with the server about the same time and contribute most of the undeliverable because of that. But the complaints became more frequent and I was able to give my service provider to provide me with the log files and I started to notice that when I sent an e-mail out to a mailing list say pare...@domian.com, that some of the log entries in the mail log would show the following: 2009-05-03 13:27:54 [20088] 1M0iHw-0005Dq-2U = pers...@pacbell.net F=parents-boun...@domian.com P=parents-boun...@domian.com R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp S=4894 H=pbimail2.prodigy.net [207.115.21.23]:25 C=250 2.0.0 n43KRqOE012511 Message accepted for delivery QT=2s DT=2s This looks like a normal message delivery from the 'parents' list to pers...@pacbell.net Which would deliver just fine while others would say: 2009-05-03 16:12:52 [20088] H=localhost (myhost.DOMAIN.com) [127.0.0.1]:45816 I=[127.0.0.1]:25 F=mailman-boun...@myhost.domain.com temporarily rejected RCPT pers...@sbcglobal.net: Could not complete sender verify This message is from the site list, not the 'parents' list. Such messages are normally notices to list owners/moderators. If pers...@sbcglobal.net is not an owner/moderator of some list and is only a member of the 'parents' list, then I don't offhand know what's happening. Which of course were not deliverable but we're all part of the same mailing list. Has anybody seen this and what is the fix? My current environment is that I'm using a hosted VPS with Cpanel and don't have root access. Do you have access to Mailman's logs? If so, what's in the smtp and smtp-failure logs? See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/sYA9 for a discussion of why our ability to help is limited in this situation, and for info on the location of files in a cPanel installation. If you think the problem is the 'myhost' in mailman-boun...@myhost.domain.com as opposed to the absence of 'myhost' in parents-boun...@domian.com, you may be able to fix that if you have command line access to Mailman. You would need to run 'fix_url' on the 'mailman' list. In a normal, non-cPanel installation, I think all that would be required is cd path/to/mailman bin/withlist -l -r fix_url mailman Even simpler, if you can access the web admin interface for the 'mailman' list, you will probably find that host_name near the bottom of the General Options page is set to myhost.DOMAIN.com and you can simply change that to DOMAIN.com. My service provider claims not to support mailman any longer all through its still part of the Cpanel install. My version of Cpanel is 11.24.4-RELEASE and it appears that my mailman version is version 2.1.11.cp3. I'm trying to get a grasp on the exact issue so that I can provide my service provider with a way of fixing it and not request root access which then I lose all support from them. You can give them the above information, but as Brad already said, they already aren't supporting you, at least as far as Mailman is concerned. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Robots Tag
John Webb wrote: Thanks Brad. Any idea what I need to do to get index/follow into my archives html? See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/jYA9. More specifically, assuming you're only concerned about English language, find Mailman's templates/ directory. Create templates/site/ and templates/site/en/ (these should be mode drwxrwsr-x and group mailman). Copy templates/en/article.html to templates/site/en/article.html. Edit the META tag in templates/site/en/article.html. If you have non-English language lists, do the same for the other languages. Stop Mailman. Backup archives. Rebuild archives - e.g. #! /bin/sh cd /path/to/mailman for list in `bin/list_lists --bare` ; do bin/arch --wipe $list done Start Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Digests more than once a day ... Whatdetermines it?
Malcolm Austen wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2009 18:36:56 +0100, Edward Ned Harvey edward.har...@lyricsemiconductor.com wrote: Under what circumstances will a digest be created more than daily? If an individual message is large enough to trigger a digest. More precisely, if a message arrives which when added to all the prior, not-yet-digested messages, results in a pending digest greater than digest_size_threshhold. Thus, a digest can be triggered by a single large message or by a number of smaller messages. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Non-ASCII signs in welcome text
Hendrik Maryns wrote: Indeed. The problem is that Mailman assumes a list is English by default. If I create a new list, I start editing its settings. What you see first, is the welcome message etc. Only afterwards, I click through to the language settings and change it to German. This causes the problem. So a useful RFE would be to either not assume English, or to ask for the language at setup (or at first administrator login, since often a sysadmin will create the list and then hand it over to the list admin). It's already there - see the documentation for DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE in Defaults.py. Set DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'de' in mm_cfg.py and lists will be created with German as their preferred_language. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
