Re: [Mailman-Users] Disabling quoting of original messages sent to request
Thanks, Terri Oda and Mark Sapiro for the responses. The pointer to CommandRunner.py allowed me to quash the copied input for now. (I had to do something, as the issue was getting our server into CBL and so largely hobbling all our lists.) But I agree with Terri that the result is not ideal -- and probably confusing -- for legitimate users of the request address. We are lucky (I guess) in that we have an otherwise tightly controlled, custom front end for subscriber management and that the only time *most* legitimate users interact with the 'request' address is when Replying to a subscription confirmation. (And that may be the step where a cc: of the original message is least informative.) Regards, Steven At 06:56 PM 6/11/2009, Mark Sapiro wrote: In Mailman 2.1.x, only by modifying the the Results.send_response() method in Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py. If you want to do this, post that fact, and I can suggest a patch. At 05:52 PM 6/11/2009, Terri Oda wrote: Are you sure you want to just disable the quoting? I know the spams are obnoxious, but at least right now your users can tell that the spammer is the culprit. If you take that part out, then they may assume your installation of mailman is at fault, or that they somehow sent something out, which could be even more confusing than just receiving the spam copy is. -- Steve Bonisteel The Web Paving Company Ltd. / Kingston, Ontario Phone: 613-531-0479 / Cell: 613-484-3196 ICQ: 321181636 MSN/AIM/YAHOO: webpaving -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Bounce processing off but still receiving bounce messages
I have a list set up that the membership changes on the fly. When an email is sent out, the current list is removed and a new list is uploaded. I have turned bounce processing off but I am still receiving bounce messages. Is there a way to turn bounce processing off completely for a particular list? Mac os x server Mailman 2.1.4 Thanks. Dave -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing off but still receiving bounce messages
Dave Bevis wrote: I have a list set up that the membership changes on the fly. When an email is sent out, the current list is removed and a new list is uploaded. I have turned bounce processing off but I am still receiving bounce messages. Is there a way to turn bounce processing off completely for a particular list? Mac os x server Mailman 2.1.4 If bounce processing is Off for listname, any message sent to listname-boun...@... is ignored. If you are seeing bounces, either some broken MTA/MDA is returning them to other than the envelope sender or this is an Apple issue. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Approve all held?
Hi list-ees, After googling and searching the list archives, haven't been able to find an answer to: how could I approve all messeages (around hundred of'em) held for moderation due to one reason or another? I could manually approve some of them with confirm in subject and approved:password message, but there are PLENTY of old ones held for more than 3 days in queue. I suppose it has to be done via /bin/withlist and a script, or is there another solution? TIA, Alexei. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] problems with mail robot -request
Dear Mailman-Users and Team, i am using mailman for a long time now and like for once to say thanks for the good work! A while ago we migrated the server and the lists. It comes that i recognized a problem. A mail to the mail robot mylist-requ...@mylist.domain goes straight to the moderation-queue and the user got a bounce that the mail is held for approval. Even when the moderator approves the mail - it is published to the list and not to the mail-robot. My first idea was that the migrated lists are buggy - but the same behaviour occurs after creating a new list. We are using virtualhosts and postfix as a mta. Any Ideas howto debug or which steps to take to get this problem solved are highly appreciated? Joe -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Migration to new server, new domain name
Hello, Can anybody point me to a document or explain to me what is necessary to complete these steps? We have a mailman server hosted on a FreeBSD box and need to migrate it an Ubuntu box and change domain names on all the lists. We have several dozen lists, all under the foo.org domain. We need to change foo.org to bar.org The current mail.foo.org server on FreeBSD is getting long in the tooth, and we need to move anyway to Ubuntu. So I need to set up a new Ubuntu server w/ Postfix, Mailman and Apache and call this server mail.bar.org and this will be the MX server for bar.org. For each *...@foo.org list, I need to move it to the new server, and it's archives to mail.bar.org and that list will be called *...@bar.org But I also want to be able to protect users with forwarding.if they still send mail to their old respective *...@foo.org list, how do I configure to foward and process to the new *...@bar.org list? Thanks in advance for any links, docs, or advice. DW -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Member list
Hi, I would need your advice... I am doing some tests at the moment. What I want to do, is to be able to invite or to make subscribe some people, in order to send them some newsletters. However, I do wish that ONLY the moderators and the administrator can send newsletters. None of the members should be able to send newsletters. - How can I disable it ? Instead of letting them sending emails and waiting for approval, I would prefer that this will be rejected automatically, without rejecting the admin and moderators Can I setup the system like this ? Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] issues with having www on address
Hi, I have my mailman set up and its working. I have one small issue left. If i goto http://mysite.com/mailman/admin/ I see all my lists. but if i goto http://www.mysite.com/mailman/admin i see all but 2 lists. In my mm_cfg.conf file I have: DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.mysite.com' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'info.mysite.com' removing the www from the default url host doesnt seem to fix anything. is there a way i am suppose to handle these differant URL's? Thanks, -- Mitchell -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Move systems (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I have mailman with postfix running on a 32-bit RHEL 5 system. I need to move it to a new 64-bit system. Is there a way to do so without losing the data, configurations, etc I already have? I have some Linux experience, but this my first foray into managing a list server (or any type of mail server). Mark Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Help please?
I am using mailman to run a mail list memb...@saparweb.com The problem is that list members using xx...@hotmail addresses do not receive the messages, not even in their spam folders? Any suggestions please? Patrick -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Question of adminstration
Hi, Sorry guys to bother you, but I cannot find anywhere the answer to my question I am doing some tests at the moment. What I want to do, is to create a mailing list, in order to send newsletters BUT Only the administrator and the moderator can send newsletters I don't want that the members in the list, can send any info, via our newsletter If they send any email, I would like to reject automatically the email. ( but not from the moderator or the Admin ) Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] gmail marks mailman confirmation mail as spam...
Hi, maybe you have some recipe for making gmail treat confirmation mails as non-spam? It just throws mail confirm e8492f19d7c336341050... -- Kārlis Repsons signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mailman + virtualenv
I've been tasked with upgrading an existing Mailman installation to a new version while maintaining some patches we've previously made to the base setup. All this is to happen on a VPS hosted machine while the existing mailing list continues to run as-is. I'm considering doing a side-by-side install of a new version of Mailman under virtualenv, then porting over the changes, and then finally switching over once testing is done. Anyone out there have any experience running Mailman in virtualenv? Any known minefields to avoid? Thanks, Rick -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] requesting copies of previous messages on a mailman list
** Protective Marking : NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED ** Hi, I am an administrator of a mailman mailing list. I am struggling to find any documentation on how to request a copy of a previously posted message using mailman. i.e. for new users to reply to existing threads. Is it anywhere in your documentation, can you point me in the right direction? Thanks, Ross Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. - National Archives Disclaimer This email message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to The National Archives. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return email immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of The National Archives are neither given nor endorsed by it. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve all held?
Alexx wrote: After googling and searching the list archives, haven't been able to find an answer to: how could I approve all messeages (around hundred of'em) held for moderation due to one reason or another? So far as I know, there is no method for doing this. You can discard all messages that are held for moderation, but there's no approve all messages option. You could always hack the source code yourself to add such a feature, if you were so inclined. -- Brad Knowles b...@shub-internet.org LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve all held?
Alexx wrote: how could I approve all messeages (around hundred of'em) held for moderation due to one reason or another? I could manually approve some of them with confirm in subject and approved:password message, but there are PLENTY of old ones held for more than 3 days in queue. I suppose it has to be done via /bin/withlist and a script, or is there another solution? Assuming the admindb web interface is working, you could go there and approve the posts. Otherwise, you can modify bin/discard to approve the posts rather than discard them. See http://wiki.list.org/x/nIA9 for some information on the usage of bin/discard. If you look at the bin/discard script, near the end you will see mlist.HandleRequest(id, mm_cfg.DISCARD, '', False, False, '') (actually indented more than above). If you change mm_cfg.DISCARD to mm_cfg.APPROVE, the script will approve held posts rather than discard them. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with mail robot -request
Joe wrote: A while ago we migrated the server and the lists. It comes that i recognized a problem. A mail to the mail robot mylist-requ...@mylist.domain goes straight to the moderation-queue and the user got a bounce that the mail is held for approval. Even when the moderator approves the mail - it is published to the list and not to the mail-robot. Mail to the LIST-request address should never be hels for approval unless it it also sent to the LIST posting address. My first idea was that the migrated lists are buggy - but the same behaviour occurs after creating a new list. We are using virtualhosts and postfix as a mta. I seems that possibly you have recipient_delimiter = - in Postfix's main.cf, but that alonoe should not cause this as the alias for LIST-request should override the '-' recipient delimiter in this case, so you apparently have a problem with your Mailman aliases and/or virtual maps too. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Migration to new server, new domain name
Duane Winner wrote: Can anybody point me to a document or explain to me what is necessary to complete these steps? We have a mailman server hosted on a FreeBSD box and need to migrate it an Ubuntu box and change domain names on all the lists. We have several dozen lists, all under the foo.org domain. We need to change foo.org to bar.org The current mail.foo.org server on FreeBSD is getting long in the tooth, and we need to move anyway to Ubuntu. So I need to set up a new Ubuntu server w/ Postfix, Mailman and Apache and call this server mail.bar.org and this will be the MX server for bar.org. For each *...@foo.org list, I need to move it to the new server, and it's archives to mail.bar.org and that list will be called *...@bar.org This is covered in the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/gIA9. But I also want to be able to protect users with forwarding.if they still send mail to their old respective *...@foo.org list, how do I configure to foward and process to the new *...@bar.org list? You need to congigure the MX MTA for foo.org with aliases or whatever to forward l...@foo.org mail to l...@bar.org for each list. In mailman, you probably want to set l...@foo.org in Privacy options... - Recipient filters - acceptable_aliases for each l...@bar.org list, although this isn't strictly necessary because current code will accept l...@foo.org as an explicit destination for l...@bar.org for backwards compatibility reasons. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member list
Steve wrote: I am doing some tests at the moment. What I want to do, is to be able to invite or to make subscribe some people, in order to send them some newsletters. However, I do wish that ONLY the moderators and the administrator can send newsletters. None of the members should be able to send newsletters. - How can I disable it ? See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/3YA9. Instead of letting them sending emails and waiting for approval, I would prefer that this will be rejected automatically, without rejecting the admin and moderators Yes. This is covered in the FAQ, but note that the secure way to do this is to leave everyone moderated and post with an Approved: header as also mentioned in the FAQ. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] issues with having www on address
Mitch Gore wrote: I have my mailman set up and its working. I have one small issue left. If i goto http://mysite.com/mailman/admin/ I see all my lists. but if i goto http://www.mysite.com/mailman/admin i see all but 2 lists. This is because all but two of your lists are in the www.mysite.com domain and the other two are in the mysite.com domain. The fact that the www.mysite.com lists appear on the mysite.com overview is actually a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/342162 In my mm_cfg.conf file I have: DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.mysite.com' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'info.mysite.com' removing the www from the default url host doesnt seem to fix anything. is there a way i am suppose to handle these differant URL's? To understand why changing mm_cfg.py alone is not effective, see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/mIA9. In your case, if you have only the two domains and want to see all lists on the overview regardless of which URL you use, set VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = Off in mm_cfg.py. Otherwise, the above referenced FAQ explains hou to run fix_url to put all lists in the DEFAULT_URL_HOST domain. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve all held?
Mark Sapiro wrote: Alexx wrote: how could I approve all messeages (around hundred of'em) held for moderation due to one reason or another? I could manually approve some of them with confirm in subject and approved:password message, but there are PLENTY of old ones held for more than 3 days in queue. I suppose it has to be done via /bin/withlist and a script, or is there another solution? Assuming the admindb web interface is working, you could go there and approve the posts. And if you want a script to work with that, here's one I wrote for greasemonkey (a firefox add-on that lets you script parts of your interface). You'll have to alter the @include line so it contains your own site address. This would probably work better as a bookmarklet, if someone wants to convert it. You'll still have to click submit yourself (which gives you a chance to review if you want) but it will move all the defaults to be accept // ==UserScript== // @name Approve all Mailman posts // @descriptionTerri Oda's lazy way to approve all postings // @namespace http://terri.zone12.com // @includehttp://mailman.linuxchix.org/mailman/admindb/* // ==/UserScript== var inputs = document.getElementsByTagName(input); for (var i=0; i inputs.length; i++){ if(inputs[i].type == 'radio' inputs[i].name.indexOf(senderaction-) == 0 inputs[i].value == 1){ inputs[i].checked = true; } } // End script -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help please?
patrick wrote: The problem is that list members using xx...@hotmail addresses do not receive the messages, not even in their spam folders? Hotmail (Windows Live Mail) is discarding messages from your server. This is something that you or the server admins will have to deal with Microsoft to fix. See http://postmaster.msn.com/Troubleshooting.aspx, and note the middle paragraph under Sender services, tools, and issue submission which says If your e-mail complies with our service guidelines and you are still experiencing e-mail delivery problems that are not addressed in our FAQ, click here to contact support. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Who kicked the gate loose?
Whence cometh the sudden flood of posts? Scott -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Move systems (UNCLASSIFIED)
McCord, Mark C Mr CIV USA wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I have mailman with postfix running on a 32-bit RHEL 5 system. I need to move it to a new 64-bit system. Is there a way to do so without losing the data, configurations, etc I already have? I have some Linux experience, but this my first foray into managing a list server (or any type of mail server). If you are currently running the RedHat rpm package, see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/KYCB for where to find things. What you need to do is install Mailman on the new server. Do not create any lists other than possibly the 'mailman' site list. Move the contents of the lists/ and archives/private/ directories (except maybe for the 'mailman/' and 'mailman.mbox/' directories) from the old server to the new. If the domain name isn't changing, that's all you need to do. If the domain is changing, see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/gIA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Who kicked the gate loose?
Jones, Scott (GE Money, consultant) wrote: Whence cometh the sudden flood of posts? New members are moderated by default. Sometimes the moderator (who isn't me) is attending to other parts of his life and isn't able to approve posts for a few days. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve all held?
Terri Oda wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Alexx wrote: how could I approve all messeages (around hundred of'em) held for moderation due to one reason or another? I could manually approve some of them with confirm in subject and approved:password message, but there are PLENTY of old ones held for more than 3 days in queue. I suppose it has to be done via /bin/withlist and a script, or is there another solution? Here's a bookmarklet version of the script I posted earlier. Just bookmark this stupidly long string and then when you're viewing your admin page, click the bookmark to move every box over to Accept -- should simplify the task some. javascript:function%20approveAll(){var%20inputs=document.getElementsByTagName(input);for(var%20i=0;iinputs.length;i++){if(inputs[i].type=='radio'inputs[i].name.indexOf(senderaction-)==0inputs[i].value==1){inputs[i].checked=true;}}};approveAll() I expect the stupidly long string is going to get line-wrapped, so you'll probably need to stick it back together. I've only tested it in Firefox 3, but it's pretty basic JavaScript so it will likely work in other browsers. Terri -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question of adminstration
Steve James wrote: What I want to do, is to create a mailing list, in order to send newsletters BUT Only the administrator and the moderator can send newsletters I don't want that the members in the list, can send any info, via our newsletter If they send any email, I would like to reject automatically the email. ( but not from the moderator or the Admin ) Answered in another thread at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-June/066314.html. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] requesting copies of previous messages on a mailman list
On 06/10/09 07:34, Spencer, Ross wrote: I am an administrator of a mailman mailing list. I am struggling to find any documentation on how to request a copy of a previously posted message using mailman. I'm not aware of any ability in Mailman that will allow you make a request for a previously posted message. In fact, I believe that Mailman simply (in effect) splits / explodes any given message and re-sends it on to multiple recipients, with one of the recipients being an archive. To the best of my knowledge the archive simply appends the message to an mbox file (or similar) for later view via the web interface. I do not believe there is any concept of retrieving a given message out of the archive. Grant. . . . -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] requesting copies of previous messages on a mailmanlist
Spencer, Ross wrote: ** Protective Marking : NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED ** I am an administrator of a mailman mailing list. I am struggling to find any documentation on how to request a copy of a previously posted message using mailman. i.e. for new users to reply to existing threads. Does your list have archives? If so, and if the ARCHIVER_OBSCURES_EMAILADDRS setting has it's default value of Yes, the poster's address in the archived message is a mailto: link to the list with appropriate Subject= and In-Reply-To= query fragments for replying. There is an issue in that in Mailman versions prior to 2.1.10, there was a bug in that the In-Reply-To was the Message-ID of the prior post in thread if any rather than the current post. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] gmail marks mailman confirmation mail as spam...
Kālis Repsons wrote: Hi, maybe you have some recipe for making gmail treat confirmation mails as non-spam? It just throws mail confirm e8492f19d7c336341050... Confirmations are sent with Precedence: bulk which may be part of the problem, but I just tested a confirmation to a gmail.com address and it went to the inbox. As far as I know, I have no special spam whitelisting in effect on this gmail account. The one thing that might be different is the server I sent this from has VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes in mm_cfg.py which changes the subject from confirm 6e4cfe0ab337729574b1a643a231569ef0ef59ab to Your confirmation is required to join the LISTNAME mailing list and the From: from listname-requ...@example.com to listname-confirm+6e4cfe0ab337729574b1a643a231569ef0ef5...@example.com So you might try setting VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes if your MTA can properly deliver to an address such as above. That may help. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Administrivia
I have Administrivia turned on for a list, but people keep sending subscribe requests to the list address (because they are morons, I guess, I send them the subscribe address). Anyway, the administrivia setting does not pick up these messages and I end up with them in the admin queue and end up manually adding them to the subscribers list and purging the message. Can I get administrivia to process subscribe request? message will come in with the single word subject of subscribe sometimes with a single word body of subscribe or sometimes no body. The help says Administrivia tests will check postings to see whether it's really meant as an administrative request (like subscribe, unsubscribe, etc), and will add it to the the administrative requests queue, notifying the administrator of the new request, in the process. but at least on my system, this doesn't seem to happen. -- Q: Does anyone know how many LOCs were in the Space Shuttle' codebase? A: 45. It was written in perl (paraphrased Slashdot discussion) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrivia
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:12:17 -0600 LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: Hello LuKreme, The help says Administrivia tests will check postings to see whether it's really meant as an administrative request (like subscribe, unsubscribe, etc), and will add it to the the administrative requests queue, notifying the administrator of the new request, in the process. but at least on my system, this doesn't seem to happen. I asked a very similar question a few months back, and got a very comprehensive answer from Mark Sapiro. In my case, it was that the people attempting to (un)subscribe were sending their requests with a plain text *and* an HTML part. The combination of the two parts added up to far more than the allowed number of lines for a message to be treated as administrivia, s was passed on to the list processing software, which promptly strips the HTML part, leaving just the one word message that arrived at the list. Is it possible that the same thing is happening on your list? -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent This is the fifty first state of the USA Heartland - The The signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Who kicked the gate loose?
Jones, Scott (GE Money, consultant) wrote: Whence cometh the sudden flood of posts? I have been remiss in my duties as moderator for this list, and today I finally got the chance to try to catch up. I'll try to stay more current in the future. -- Brad Knowles b...@python.org Member of the Python.org Postmaster Team Co-Moderator of the mailman-users and mailman-developers mailing lists -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrivia
Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:12:17 -0600 LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: Hello LuKreme, The help says Administrivia tests will check postings to see whether =20 it's really meant as an administrative request (like subscribe, =20 unsubscribe, etc), and will add it to the the administrative requests =20 queue, notifying the administrator of the new request, in the process. but at least on my system, this doesn't seem to happen. I asked a very similar question a few months back, and got a very comprehensive answer from Mark Sapiro. Which can be found at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2008-December/064208.html In my case, it was that the people attempting to (un)subscribe were sending their requests with a plain text *and* an HTML part. The combination of the two parts added up to far more than the allowed number of lines for a message to be treated as administrivia, s was passed on to the list processing software, which promptly strips the HTML part, leaving just the one word message that arrived at the list. Is it possible that the same thing is happening on your list? Note that for the above scenario, you can rearrange the pipeline to put MimeDel before Hold so that both administrivia and too big checks are done after content filtering. To do this, put # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so too big is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9