Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to

2009-07-24 Thread Grant Taylor 

On 07/23/09 11:10, Wayne wrote:
I don't understand the whole reply to stuff. I don't want to allow 
users to hit reply and it to reply to the group. I have it set to 
strip the header and the reply to is set to poster.


I consider there to be two main types of mailing lists, one of which has 
a couple sub-types.


  1)  Discussion mailing lists where replies are directed back to the 
list its self so that all subscribers are kept in the loop.


  2)  Announcement mailing lists where replies are either directed back to:
A)  Back to the poster, possibly to privately answer a question.

B)  Back to a designated contact address, possibly to a company 
contact point.




Grant. . . .
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Inquiry from Saigon

2009-07-24 Thread Mark Sapiro 
Claudio Schuftan wrote:

> I moderate a listserver called phm-exchange using mailman.
>Can you give me precise instructions on what to do to change the settings
>so my own postings to the list do not have to be moderated (by me...) .


If your posts are held for reason "Post to moderated list", see the FAQ
at , in particular the section "How to
post to the announcement list:"

If they are held for some other reason, what is that reason?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] permission denied error

2009-07-24 Thread Mark Sapiro 
LuKreme wrote:

>On 23-Jul-2009, at 22:12, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>
>> My 23-Jul-2009, at 16:58 (-0600) post (and this one too) was sent to
>> the list only. The post archived at the above link was addressed to
>> you and to the list. The copy to you was accepted by your MX
>> (mail.covisp.net). Perhaps you are filtering mail from me?
>
>Not specifically, but mail to my list address that is not to a list  
>goes into a quarantine that I look at only on rare occasions. I never  
>saw the copy sent to the list though. The one directly to me is in the  
>quarantine and I pulled it out after seeing your second reply.


If you are an explicit addressee of a list post, you won't get a copy
from the list unless you set your "Avoid duplicate copies of
messages?" list option to No which would seem to be a good idea in
this case.


>Hmm.. I think I might have found the problem, there was a crontab for  
>'nobody' that had the various mailman tasks in it. Mailman runs as the  
>user mailman, not nobody. See if that eliminates the issue.


I considered asking you about that, but you seemed to say that
commenting the gate_news entry in the mailman user's crontab stopped
the gate_news errors which would imply they were coming from the
mailman user's crontab.

Note also that crond is probably mailing error reports to 'mailman' or
maybe to 'nobody' if it is that crontab. It is good to arrange for
that mail to be deliverable. In some cases that mail is treated as a
post to the 'mailman' list and is then discarded as a non-member post
and never seen. For various reasons, it can be good to have the
mailman list accept non-member posts (and have only one or a few site
admins as members).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Password reminder on private archive login page

2009-07-24 Thread liste yoneticisi 

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, liste yoneticisi wrote:

Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:11:28 +0300 (WET)
From: liste yoneticisi 
To: Mark Sapiro 
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Password reminder on private archive login page

Dear Mr Sapiro;

Thank you very much, It worked for English archive interfaces.
But it doesn't work for Turkish Interface.

Altough I made completely the same modifications as English one.
Is there another area to enforce the changes for international files?

Ooops. I made the changes in $PATH/templates/site/tr/private.html
and it worked.
I made the changes /template/tr/private.html

It's mu fault.

Thank you very much for your cooperation.



http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:20:41 -0700
From: Mark Sapiro 
To: liste yoneticisi , mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: Password reminder on private archive login page

liste yoneticisi wrote:
>
>But I am trying to understand the commands.
>I tried the text in the attachment also but as you warned, it didn't
>work.:-(
>


Yes, It had a few problems :(


>---
>>The final problem is you've inserted your code in the wrong place. You
>>put it where it is only reached if the user is already authenticated
>>or provided a valid authentication.
>---
>
>Actually if someone reached to the archive (in order to see attachments,
>messages for example) he probably had not logged into list archives
>page yet. He is asked to enter his e-mail and corresponding password.


My remark above referred to where in the logical flow of the private.py
module you had put your code. It was not about how a user would arrive
at the page.

Since I had planned to look into this for Mailman 2.2 anyway, I have
made a first cut at implementing this feature. The attached
privatepw.patch.txt contains patches to Mailman/Cgi/private.py and
templates/en/private.html to implement this feature. I have tested
them and they seem OK.

You're on your own for the Turkish version of the private.html template.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Password reminder on private archive login page

2009-07-24 Thread liste yoneticisi 
Dear Mr Sapiro;

Thank you very much, It worked for English archive interfaces.
But it doesn't work for Turkish Interface.

Altough I made completely the same modifications as English one.
Is there another area to enforce the changes for international files?


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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:20:41 -0700
From: Mark Sapiro 
To: liste yoneticisi , mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: Password reminder on private archive login page

liste yoneticisi wrote:
>
>But I am trying to understand the commands.
>I tried the text in the attachment also but as you warned, it didn't
>work.:-(
>


Yes, It had a few problems :(


>---
>>The final problem is you've inserted your code in the wrong place. You
>>put it where it is only reached if the user is already authenticated
>>or provided a valid authentication.
>---
>
>Actually if someone reached to the archive (in order to see attachments,
>messages for example) he probably had not logged into list archives
>page yet. He is asked to enter his e-mail and corresponding password.


My remark above referred to where in the logical flow of the private.py
module you had put your code. It was not about how a user would arrive
at the page.

Since I had planned to look into this for Mailman 2.2 anyway, I have
made a first cut at implementing this feature. The attached
privatepw.patch.txt contains patches to Mailman/Cgi/private.py and
templates/en/private.html to implement this feature. I have tested
them and they seem OK.

You're on your own for the Turkish version of the private.html template.

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