Re: [Mailman-Users] Quick question for a newbie
Joe Ruffolo wrout: I want my list members to be able to respond back to the original poster. So when they hit reply the actually reply back to the person who posted the message. How do I do this? I've tried changing all the settings in the admin interface but nothing seems to work. The reply to is always blank-boun...@mylist.com. How do I make the reply to be the sender of the email? The user's MUA is replying to the Sender: instead of the From:. Is this perhaps MS Outlook? See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/RoA9 for some info. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Customizing Mailman
Kim Huff wrote: So, we would want anyone that signs up to go into a queue and wait to be approved. As Ralf said, you can do this totally withing Mailman via subscribe_policy. The problem is. what URL does one use for to subscribe? Is there a way for me to customize this page? Most of my clients use Joomla so I would need to make sure the subscription page can work within a Joomla page. The subscribe form is on the list's listinfo page. If you want to make a custom form, see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/hIA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fake Email
Conrad Richter wrote: Another way to deal with this is sender confirmation by email, where, like subscriber confirmation by email, a message is sent with a confirmation link. Mailman doesn't have this capability presently but it seems to me that since it already has subscriber confirmation, it should be possible to adapt that sender confirmation. Do you really think it's a good idea to require every post to be confirmed? Note that since Mailman is downstream of the MTA, it doesn't have direct access to the sender's IP, so IPs can't be whitelisted. Also, it is just another way to enable your server to be a source of Joe Jobs. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is There a Hack to Add Author Confirmation ofMessages?
Conrad Richter wrote: Is there a hack somewhere for adding this confirmation feature for messages? The fact that Mailman already has an email confirmation ability for subscriptions built-in suggests to me that someone, somewhere has figured out a way to use that facility for message confirmation. I'm not aware of anyone who's done this. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Googlemail vs Gmail Bounce
James Sadri wrote: I have an issue with people using @gmail and @googlemail domains interchangably. I know some mailing lists you can configure to treat them as the same - is there a way to do that with Mailman? This will be properly supported in MM3. In MM2.1, short of hacking the code, there are two ways. The member can subscribe both addresses and set one to no mail, or you can hold non-member posts and when approving a post from a googlemail address of a gmail member (or vice versa) check the box to add the poster to the non-member Accepts filter. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable To Create Mailman Lists
Carlos Williams wrote: I just installed Mailman 2.1.9-4 on my Linux mail server and configured it according to the online guide straight from the Mailman site. It appears to be working fine and I get hit the main page via Apache and see the only pubic list available called 'Mailman'. Now I selected the 'Admin Overview Page' and it takes me straight to the 'Admin' page with out any credentials for password or anything. Is this normal Mailman behavior? Should anyone be able to simply hit my Mailman public page and walk right into the 'Admin' page with put any credentials? I don't understand. Are you saying you go to http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/ and you wind up at http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/mailman/? If so, this is something in your Apache config. Or, are you saying you can go directly to the admin interface at http://www.example.com/mailman/admin/mailman/ without going through the login page. If this is the issue, there are two possible causes. Either you previously logged in in this browser session and still have the login cookie, or you set a null site admin password with bin/mmsitepass (accepting a null password is a bug fixed in MM 2.1.13 to be released soon) Secondly - since I am in the 'Admin' page, I then attempt to select the link that says create a new mailing list This is on the admin overview page, not the list admin page. The overview page does not require authentication. If that's the issue above, it's not a problem. which takes me to a new page for adding all the criteria for the new list I would like to generate. At the very bottom, it has a blank field box for List creator's (authentication) password: and I simply have no idea what that is. If I leave it blank or type in the password for the only Mailman list I have called Mailman, I get an error when creating the new list that says: Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists You need to use either the 'site' password or the special list creator password. See bin/mmsitepass --help. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Please can you help me investigate an issue withtwo of our e mail lists.
Ian Peel wrote: Mail sent to these is not being forwarded. The archive shows that these stopped working on October the 8th. I have checked various admin setting pages however these have not revealed anything to me. It appears from the listinfo overview for your domain that the support contact for your lists is helpd...@ucl.ac.uk. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Quick question
Support wrote: I'm trying to add a active email link in the non digest footer but having trouble doing so. Is this possible? No. Basically I manage around 15 lists and want people to be able to opt out of the list by emailing me directly at a certain email address. I can get the email address on there but its not active. I want people to just be able to click it (my email address) and type remove and hit send. The footer is always in a text/plain part - either added to a text/plain message or added in its own text/plain part. Many MUAs recognize http:// strings in text/plain parts and render them as active links, but few if any do the same with mailto: -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Issue with plain text
Pedro Jacobetty wrote: Is there any way I can make mailman convert MIME emails into plain text, so wordpress recognizes the content of the email, and not only its subject, in order to post it? Use Mailman's content filtering and set collapse_alternatives and convert_html_to_plaintext both to Yes. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Please can you help me investigate an issuewithtwo of our e mail lists.
Mark Sapiro wrote: Ian Peel wrote: Mail sent to these is not being forwarded. The archive shows that these stopped working on October the 8th. I have checked various admin setting pages however these have not revealed anything to me. It appears from the listinfo overview for your domain that the support contact for your lists is helpd...@ucl.ac.uk. OTOH, perhaps you are the help desk (I didn't carefully read the subject before replying). If so, see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9. If there is nothing in the archives for these lists, and other lists are working, the problem may have something to do with the aliases or some other MTA issue. Perhaps a local user 'laws-pgs' was added who now receives the list's mail? Check the MTA logs to see how mail to these lists is being handled. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] How to reduce memory use?
I've just started being the list server for a low volume list that runs on a OpenVZ virtual server where memory is limited to 256MB RAM and when you hit various barriers your programs can't allocate more memory. Unless you upgrade to a more expensive OpenVZ virtual server... Apache2 seems to be failing with the least grace -- just locking up sometimes, but adding mailman was what got me so close to my memory limits. Suggestions? I'm already reducing apache2 memory use by directions like: StartServers 1 MinSpareServers 1 MaxSpareServers 2 Is there anything like those directives in mailman? Thanks, John Griessen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] The email address you supplied is not valid. (E.g.it must contain an `@'.)
Hicks, Robert CTR I searched Google but didn't find anything definitive for the error in the subject line. I am trying to subscribe a member and I am using a valid email address. For Mailman, an email address MUST be qualified with a domain name, e.g. 'u...@example.com' and not just 'user' even if 'user' is a valid, locally deliverable address. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] The email address you supplied is not valid. (E.g.it must contain an `@'.)
-Original Message- From: m...@msapiro.net [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:30 PM To: Hicks, Robert CTR; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] The email address you supplied is not valid. (E.g.it must contain an `@'.) Hicks, Robert CTR I searched Google but didn't find anything definitive for the error in the subject line. I am trying to subscribe a member and I am using a valid email address. For Mailman, an email address MUST be qualified with a domain name, e.g. 'u...@example.com' and not just 'user' even if 'user' is a valid, locally deliverable address. Thanks! After searching more I found something about redirects and Apache messing with that. I did have a redirect in the mailman.conf file for Apache and when I took that out mailman worked as expected. Bob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hiding the To:
Allen Armstrong wrote: Is there a way to hide: to: field went sending to the list? I want to hide my email address and my users email addresses. That doesn't sound like hiding the To: header. You can set General Options - anonymous_list to Yes to hide the sender's address. The To: in delivered posts is normally the list posting address. If you want to replace that, and if OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes in mm_cfg.py, you can set Non-digest options] - personalize to Full Personalization, and each delivered post will be To: the recipient, but this won't hide the list posting address as it will be added in a Cc: header to facilitate replying to the list, or it will be in the From: if the list is anonymous. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] How To disable bounce handler?
I am having problems with my service provider handling outgoing list email... I would like to temporarily disable bounce handling for debug so I can see the complete bounces immediately. Thanks, John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to reduce memory use?
John Griessen wrote: Apache2 seems to be failing with the least grace -- just locking up sometimes, but adding mailman was what got me so close to my memory limits. Suggestions? I'm already reducing apache2 memory use by directions like: StartServers 1 MinSpareServers 1 MaxSpareServers 2 Is there anything like those directives in mailman? No. And there's really nothing you can do in Mailman short of keeping lists small to reduce the memory required to run Mailman's CGIs in Apache. There is an issue with Mailman's qrunners growing large because of caching of list objects. If this is an issue, see the changes at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.2/revision/1023. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How To disable bounce handler?
John wrote: I am having problems with my service provider handling outgoing list email... I would like to temporarily disable bounce handling for debug so I can see the complete bounces immediately. If you have access to the mailman installation, change the list-bounces alias to go to you. Otherwise, all you can do is make sure that bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is Yes so that when a member's delivery is disabled by bounce you receive the notice which contains the full bounce message. You can also reduce the threshold to cause delivery to be disabled and a notice sent on the first bounce, but if you do that in Mailman prior to 2.1.10, a bug in cron/disabled will possibly disable delivery for users with stale bounce info. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Googlemail vs Gmail Bounce
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 08:29:44AM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: The member can subscribe both addresses and set one to no mail, or you can hold non-member posts and when approving a post from a googlemail address of a gmail member (or vice versa) check the box to add the poster to the non-member Accepts filter. Another, rather messy way *could* be to use find_members for gmail/googlemail, pipe to a file, use sed to build the counterparts, tr to replace \n with ', ', and then withlist to add 'em to (accept|hold)_these_nonmembers... bonus points for using diff to only do anything if there are changes to the find_members output. I can't remember which of my list(s) had a few posters with this 'problem', but such a script shouldn't take too long to write (I don't always commit 'trivial' scripts to my repo. mybad.) -- I am invariably puzzled by the attitude of Oxbridge to its ecclesiastical past. Hearing grace recited before dinner by people you know don’t believe a word of it seems to be considered quite normal. -- David Colquhoun -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving my Mailman list
TG Platt - WW Publ wrote: 1. Can someone tell me if my hunch about not being able to move to a new server and back without access to the mailman command line utils is right? You MAY be able to move lists without access to Mailman's command line utilities, but you can't do it without write access to the Mailman installation's lists/ and archives/ directories which you probably won't have either. IOW, you will need the cooperation of the host to install the lists at their end. 2. Is it possible to do the entire move from my server and back with nothing more than a tar-ed backup and the web interface? (I think it's not.) I think it is, but only with the requisite access - see 1. 3. If I MUST have access to the command line utils, what commands do I need aside from checkperms and possibly addmember? If you aren't changing list names or domain names, the issue is probably only one of permissions which might be fixable just by chgrp -R mailman path... but they aren't gooing to let you do that either. 4. Did I overlook something? Is there some way to set up mailman during my server rebuild so that multiple domains can be supported under a single instance of mailman WITHOUT forcing all lists to use the same hosting domain name? See Geoff Shang's reply to this. 5. Are thee any other gotchas with my plan that I've overlooked? You need a hosting service that will agree to accept your tarball backup (lists/ and archives/ should suffice) and install your lists for you. Otherwise, you'll need root access to the server before you're done. I don't know what you can work out, but if it were me, I'd look for a short term agreement for a VPS. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] PLESK configuration question - Mailman defaultdomain
Brandon Rodak wrote: In other words, is there a force the Plesk/Mailman not to use http://lists. domain.com/mailman/ but use http://reports.domain.com/mailman/ for the Mailman interfaces? Is there a default template Plesk uses when a new mailing list (Mailman) is created which I can modify for the desired result? I have no idea about Plesk. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/tIA9. The answer to your question for standard GNU Mailman is in the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/gIA9. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] track mail send to a mailing list
Daniel Ganea wrote: I have a user that complains that he did not receive the mails, how can i check that? Is there a log for that? i've seen only this su logs that the message was sent to the list members: Nov 06 17:07:54 2009 (6726) post to infolist from infol...@.xxx, size=120216, message-id=p3_20091106170750_4af449d66920d, success Mailman's smtp log will tell you in addition to exactly how many recipients the mail was sent, but if he is a non-digest member with delivery enabled, you can be confident that Mailman tried to send to him. but to track that an mail was send to his email address? I got the confrmation that he is is a part of the list: from logs: Jul 17 15:30:27 2009 (10993) infolist: new x.x...@.xxx , admin mass sub has also the option *Mail delivery set to Enable* You could also look at Mailman's smtp-failure and bounce logs, but you really need to look at the MTA logs to see what the disposition of the message to that user is. Even that won't tell you much (other that the fact it was delivered to an MX) if his ISP is silently discarding his message or putting it in his spam/bulk/junk folder or if some rule in his own MUA is mis-filing it. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-postfix-mysql virtual bounces with unknownuser: sandbox-request
John Griessen wrote: I've gotten the install to work up to the point of a new list member's conf email bouncing: - The mail system sandbox-requ...@mail.cibolo.us (expanded from sandbox-requ...@lists.cibolo.us): unknown user: sandbox-request Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.cibolo.us - postfix main.cf === The output of postconf -n is much easier to deal with. [...] myhostname = mail.cibolo.us alias_maps = cdb:/etc/aliases How about hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases in alias_maps? alias_database = cdb:/etc/aliases myorigin = /etc/mailname mydestination = localhost mail.cibolo.us localhost.cibolo.us mynetworks = 76.191.252.85 127.0.0.0/8 relayhost = mailbox_size_limit = 8000 recipient_delimiter = + notify_classes = resource, software #virtual mailbox method virtual_mailbox_base = /var/mail/vhosts virtual_minimum_uid = 1999 virtual_uid_maps = cdb:/etc/postfix/virtual_uid virtual_gid_maps = cdb:/etc/postfix/virtual_gid virtual_mailbox_limit = 5120 #virtual alias method #virtual_mailbox_domains = polymerlogic.com industromatic.com virtual_mailbox_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf #virtual_alias_maps = cdb:/etc/postfix/virtual virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman #virtual_mailbox_maps = cdb:/etc/postfix/vmailbox virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf virtual_transport = virtual # Additional for quota support #virtual_create_maildirsize = yes #virtual_mailbox_extended = yes #virtual_mailbox_limit_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_limit_maps.cf #virtual_mailbox_limit_override = yes #virtual_maildir_limit_message = Sorry, the user's maildir has overdrawn his diskspace quota, please try again later. #virtual_overquota_bounce = yes #If you want to use MySQL also to store your Backup MX domains add this #relay_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_relay_domains_maps.cf #mailman setup related: relay_domains = lists.metalartists.org lists.cibolo.us If this postfix is on the Mailman machine, these are not relay domains. The addresses in these domains will be mapped to local addresses by Mailman's virtual-mailman in virtual_alias_maps, but then you need aliases to map those local addresses into pipes to the mailman wrapper. This is the hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases that's missing from alias_maps #relay_recipient_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1 This all looks like postfix_to_mailman.py stuff. You must pick one or the other, though neither of them are to be what they claim B. Dylan -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Using Mailman with Multi Mail Server
On Oct 29, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: If I understand the OP's situation, this probably won't help. I think it is a case of a single post to a large list. In this case, a single OutgoingRunner will handle the message and the other runners will do nothing. If it's a case of a single post to a large list, then the problem is most likely going to be Python pickle contention. Split the large list up into multiple smaller sub-lists, with a parent umbrella list. More info on that solution is in the FAQ wiki, but the OP should have already found that if they searched for performance. I can guarantee you that I can build an MTA configuration that is faster than Mailman could ever possibly be, for this single reason alone -- even if you run both on a pure RAMdisk. As for the rest, an option would be to use a load-balancing switch (either hardware or implemented in software), but there's a heck of a lot of tuning to be done on a single machine running a properly configured MTA and a properly designed mailing list server infrastructure, before you get to the point where load balancing switches and multiple outbound mail relay servers would start to make a big difference. Most of these topics are at least touched on in the FAQ Wiki and the fact that the OP hasn't mentioned them tells me that they either didn't do their homework, or they don't understand the concepts well enough to be able to do the homework. -- Brad Knowles bradknow...@shub-internet.org LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-postfix-mysql virtual bounces with unknownuser: sandbox-request
Mark Sapiro wrote: John Griessen wrote: #mailman setup related: relay_domains = lists.metalartists.org lists.cibolo.us If this postfix is on the Mailman machine, these are not relay domains. The addresses in these domains will be mapped to local addresses by Mailman's virtual-mailman in virtual_alias_maps, but then you need aliases to map those local addresses into pipes to the mailman wrapper. This is the hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases that's missing from alias_maps #relay_recipient_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1 This all looks like postfix_to_mailman.py stuff. You must pick one or the other, though neither of them are to be what they claim B. Dylan I took all that out and works fine. Thanks for clearing confusion of postfix_to_mailman.py I'm still not sure what enables it except for it being put in the dir: /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/ Is that all? If so, I've disabled it. thanks, John G -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-postfix-mysql virtual bounces withunknownuser: sandbox-request
John Griessen wrote: I'm still not sure what enables it except for it being put in the dir: /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/ Is that all? If so, I've disabled it. It is enabled by having an entry in transport_maps that identifies a 'mailman' transport for serving a domain and having an entry in master.cf that defines the 'mailman' transport as a pipe to the mailman_to_postfix.py script. See the comments at the beginning of the mailman_to_postfix.py script. Everything is says under INSTALLATION: is not done if you aren't using it. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Internal Server Error
Carl Parsons wrote: I rebuilt suexec so docroot is -bash-3.2# suexec -V -D AP_DOC_ROOT=/home -D AP_GID_MIN=100 -D AP_HTTPD_USER=apache -D AP_LOG_EXEC=/var/log/httpd/suexec.log -D AP_SAFE_PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin -D AP_UID_MIN=500 -D AP_USERDIR_SUFFIX=public_html created a directory /home/mailman to put the cgi-bin files copying from /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin to /home/mailman/cgi-bin You didn't have to do that. See my reply at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-October/067490.html. The important part of that reply is First a big caveat. Mailman's security model is not compatible with suexec. You can make it work if you only host a single domain, but beyond that, it's a pain or impossible. Maybe your recompilation will help. I don't know. [...] suexec.log [2009-10-21 10:32:43]: uid: (505/mysite.com) gid: (505/mysite) cmd: listinfo [2009-10-21 10:32:43]: target uid/gid (505/505) mismatch with directory (0/41) or program (0/41) When http is at mysite.com it executes as user mysite. Apache is trying to run the wrapper as suExec uid and gid uid: (505/mysite.com) gid: (505/mysite) Your wrappers and the directory containing them are owned by root and group 41 whatever that is. This is a violation of items 14 and 16 at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/suexec.html. Note that the wrapper also can't be SETGID (to any group), so everything will run as user/group 505/505 which in turn means that all mailman code must be readable by that user/group and all existing an future mutable data must be writable by that user/group. For practical purposes this means that Mailman must be configured/installed with GID 505. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How To disable bounce handler?
Thanks, I think I've got it set correct. My server has multiple domains, plesk and qmail... in case anybody with a similar setup is interested, I found the alias at /var/qmail/mailnames/domain/.qmail-listname-bounces John Mark Sapiro wrote: John wrote: I am having problems with my service provider handling outgoing list email... I would like to temporarily disable bounce handling for debug so I can see the complete bounces immediately. If you have access to the mailman installation, change the list-bounces alias to go to you. Otherwise, all you can do is make sure that bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is Yes so that when a member's delivery is disabled by bounce you receive the notice which contains the full bounce message. You can also reduce the threshold to cause delivery to be disabled and a notice sent on the first bounce, but if you do that in Mailman prior to 2.1.10, a bug in cron/disabled will possibly disable delivery for users with stale bounce info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] track mail send to a mailing list
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 11:20:10AM +0200, Daniel Ganea wrote: I have a user that complains that he did not receive the mails, how can i check that? your MTA log? -- ``Another sport which wastes unlimited time is Comma-hunting.'' (Francis Cornford, Microcosmographia Academica) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Using robots.txt
-Original Message- From: mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac...@python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+s.watkins=nhm.ac...@python.org] On Behalf Of Max Pyziur Sent: 09 November 2009 01:09 To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Using robots.txt Greetings Mailman's email lists are visible search engine spiders from http://www.somedomain.com/pipermail/emaillistname/etc However, /pipermail is an alias of /var/mailman/archives/public/ per mailman.conf I've tried placing a basic robots.txt file at /var/mailman/archives/public/ and set permissions to 644. However, my lists still get spidered. Any suggestions on where to place the robots.txt file to prevent spidering? Thanks! Max Pyziur p...@brama.com Hello Max, AFAIK your robots.txt file should be in the TOP level directory of your website, so that it is browseable via http://www.somedomain.com/robots.txt . This is the default location for it and 'good' spiders will look for it there. It should contain the allow/deny details for the whole of your website and in your case would look something like this: User-agent: * Disallow: /pipermail/ .. Which informs all browsers to disallow any URL starting (containing?) the phrase /pipermail/. Give that a whirl and see how it does. Regards, Steff Watkins === -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Administrator Authentication
From: Kuntz, Taina M. Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:17 PM To: 'mailman-users@python.org' Subject: Administrator Authentication I am the List Administrator for a couple of mailing lists. I am unable to get into the system. I'm not sure if I typed my password incorrectly too many times or if I've forgotten my password. Is it possible to get my password reset? Thanks! Taina (tku...@purdue.edu) Hello Taina, I don't know if this is the preferred/recommended/offically sanctioned by Bob way to do this but if you have shell access to the mailman system then in the 'bin' sub-directory of the mailman installation is a python script called change_pw. Quickly scanning through it it says in its preamble: Thus, this script generates new passwords for a list, and optionally sends it to all the owners of the list. Take a look at that. It may just fit your needs. Regards, Steff Watkins (Internet? Email? It'll never catch on, you know!) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Interesting Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
Today, I had an interesting bug or a feature in Mailman, which took me some time to fix. I have a Mailman 2.1.12 which was running fine for months on a virtual host. I did some low level kernel experiments, and the virtual guest started to malfunction. So, back to the original state - unfortunately Mailman interface didn't work anymore. It exited with Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12. Webserver nor Mailman logs didn't give me a clue. I browsed Mailman installation files; lists/*/config.pck suspiciously had a date of 1953. Touching these files (find | xargs touch in the lists dir) fixed the problem. Is it a bug or a feature in mailman, that when some files in lists directory are really old, Mailman refuses to work with Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't post with thunderbird
Am 09.11.2009 12:57 schrieb Stephen J. Turnbull: Johannes Wienke writes: I got a strange problem with a mailman mailing list hosted at kde.org. I'm registered at that list and also got access to the admin interface. The problem is that if I post a message with thunderbird it gets into the archive but isn't delivered to the subscribers of the list, including myself. Is your Thunderbird configuration set up to send HTML only, and the list set to filter it? Sorry, the problem is already worked around ;) . The mailing list name includes a colon and thunderbird doesn't escape that character properly in the full name of the recipient. A bug report is already filed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524471 Johannes. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail delay?
No, I am getting the same issue over here as well. - Original Message - From: Kammen van, Marco, Springer SBM NL marco.vankam...@springer.com To: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:45 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] mail delay? This mailman list sending mails that where queued for the last 7 days or is it just me?? - Marco van Kammen Springer Science+Business Media System Manager Postmaster - van Godewijckstraat 30 | 3311 GX Office Number: 05E21 Dordrecht | The Netherlands - tel +31(78)6576446 fax +31(78)6576302 - www.springeronline.com http://www.springeronline.com www.springer.com http://www.springer.com/ - -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/capelle1%40charter.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] jaretti
Hello, there is any version of mailman that runs under windows xt? thanks a lot best regards djare...@pensatoio.it -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Personalized Digests
Speaking of brain dead AOL cretins, is there any way to get some sort of personalization in digests that are sent out? I've got a few lists where some clueless AOL dimwit getting digests is marking the mail as abuse. I would love to simply remove them from the list, but thanks to the policies AOL has set forth, I have no way of finding out who they are. mjb. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] can not log into my admin account
I CAN NOT LOG INTO MY ADMIN ACCOUNT. MY WEB SITE IS VOODOO-SOUND.COM, I MAY HAVE USED MY jsdit...@msn.commailto:jsdit...@msn.com EMAIL ADDRESS OR cont...@voodoo-sound.commailto:cont...@voodoo-sound.com I DO KNOW MY PASSWORD IS voodoo CAN YOU EMAIL MY DETAILS TO THIS EMAIL. ALSO I STILL LOST ABOUT HOW THIS LIST EVEN WORKS AND HOW TO MAKE A LIST AND SO ON. I'M NEW AT THIS. CAN YOU DIRECT ME WHERE TO GET A FULL SET OF DIRECTIONS ON THIS SERVICE, PLEASE. THANK YOU, JOHN IF YOU NEED TO KNOW I USE SUPERGREEN HOSTING. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Problem with mailing list
It would seem as though one of our two mailing lists was completely deleted and I don't know how this happened. I try to recreate the mailing list and I keeping getting the same error shown below. The original mailing list was called b...@rosecourt.org. I was not the one who originally set this account up, but I have been managing it. I was hoping you can help me. Perry 500 Internal Server Error The request was not completed. The server met an unexpected condition. mail.rosecourt.org/mailman/create (port 80) Please forward this error screen to mail.rosecourt.org's WebMaster. Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.14 OpenSSL/0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at mail.rosecourt.org Port 80 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Interesting Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: It exited with Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12. Webserver nor Mailman logs didn't give me a clue. Mailman's 'error' log should have a a complete traceback and other information about the error. I browsed Mailman installation files; lists/*/config.pck suspiciously had a date of 1953. Touching these files (find | xargs touch in the lists dir) fixed the problem. I don't see how. The traceback from the error log could help identify the real problem. Is it a bug or a feature in mailman, that when some files in lists directory are really old, Mailman refuses to work with Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12? Neither. The timestamp on the files should have no effect. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail delay?
Michael Capelle wrote: No, I am getting the same issue over here as well. And has been posted before, these are moderation delays. We are applying additional resources to the moderation task which should help reduce the delay. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] jaretti
djare...@pensatoio.it wrote: there is any version of mailman that runs under windows xt? thanks a lot I assume you mean Windows XP since the only XT I know is the IBM PC XT which I don't think ran any version of Windows. I have run every version of Mailman since about 2.1.7 with Apache and Exim on Windows XP under Cygwin. It requires one small change in MailList.py to change the name of the 'new list' lock file from 'site.lock' to '=site=.lock' because the former is not a legal Windows file name. However, I run this for test and development purposes only. I would never recommend exposing a Windows server to the internet. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Personalized Digests
Mark J Bradakis writes: I would love to simply remove them from the list, but thanks to the policies AOL has set forth, I have no way of finding out who they are. If it's a discussion list or an announcement list that the members positively value, just announce to the list 1. AOL is threatening to obstruct distribution of list posts to AOL subscribers because of one unknown complainer 2. AOL refuses to help you unsubscribe that person 3. subscribers from AOL addresses will henceforth have to reactivate their subscriptions on the first of every month. Then start the cron job that sets all AOL addresses to no-mail at 00:01 on the first of the month.0.9 wink The 0.1 part is that if *everybody* did this, I suspect AOL might change its policies. BTW, while some AOL users are undoubtedly dimwits (and perhaps even a higher fraction than the population at large), I kind of suspect that at least some of the ones who mark your distribution as spam are victims of joe jobs. Yes, I'm sure you're using double opt in, but it's often fairly easy to acquire passwords; some people put them on post-its on their monitor, others post them to Mailman-Users! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] can not log into my admin account
John Ditzel wrote: I CAN NOT LOG INTO MY ADMIN ACCOUNT. MY WEB SITE IS VOODOO-SOUND.COM, I MAY HAVE USED MY jsdit...@msn.commailto:jsdit...@msn.com EMAIL ADDRESS OR cont...@voodoo-sound.commailto:cont...@voodoo-sound.com I DO KNOW MY PASSWORD IS voodoo CAN YOU EMAIL MY DETAILS TO THIS EMAIL. ALSO I STILL LOST ABOUT HOW THIS LIST EVEN WORKS AND HOW TO MAKE A LIST AND SO ON. I'M NEW AT THIS. CAN YOU DIRECT ME WHERE TO GET A FULL SET OF DIRECTIONS ON THIS SERVICE, PLEASE. THANK YOU, JOHN IF YOU NEED TO KNOW I USE SUPERGREEN HOSTING. Please don't shout. Is your question about your own Mailman list hosted at SuperGreen or elsewhere, or is it about your membership on this list (mailman-users@python.org)? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with mailing list
Perry Larkin wrote: It would seem as though one of our two mailing lists was completely deleted and I don't know how this happened. I try to recreate the mailing list and I keeping getting the same error shown below. The original mailing list was called b...@rosecourt.org. I was not the one who originally set this account up, but I have been managing it. I was hoping you can help me. Perry 500 Internal Server Error The request was not completed. The server met an unexpected condition. mail.rosecourt.org/mailman/create (port 80) Please forward this error screen to mail.rosecourt.org's WebMaster. Have you clicked the WebMaster link on that error page to report the problem? The support people at the host (rosecourt.org) are the only people who can help you. There will be information about this error in the Apache error logs at the host that will help determine the problem. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Personalized Digests
Mark J Bradakis wrote: Speaking of brain dead AOL cretins, is there any way to get some sort of personalization in digests that are sent out? Have you tried VERP? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fake Email
On Oct 31, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: I don't know if the patches at http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/mailman-ssls/ would be helpful here or not. It's an attempt to add some OpenPGP and S/MIME capabilities to Mailman. I'll take a closer look at some point, but I suspect they won't be relevant to Mailman 3. OTOH, I think it would be much easier to implement in MM3. -Barry PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fake Email
On Oct 31, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Conrad Richter wrote: Another way to deal with this is sender confirmation by email, where, like subscriber confirmation by email, a message is sent with a confirmation link. Mailman doesn't have this capability presently but it seems to me that since it already has subscriber confirmation, it should be possible to adapt that sender confirmation. This sender confirmation by email feature is available in L-Soft's LISTSERV, and it is an essential way to avoid fake email. In a post a few years ago Barry said that this feature was going to be in vers. 2.2, but that version never materialized. Will it be in vers. 3? Sort of. What I was talking about was using mail-back confirmation as an option for allowing postings from email addresses that Mailman has never seen before (i.e. non-validated). The confirmation message would be a sort of on-demand validation that would optionally be enough to allow that email address to post to the list. It still doesn't solve any of the authentication problems with those email addresses. -Barry PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
