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Re: [Mailman-Users] User unknown in virtual mailbox table

2011-01-12 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 1/12/11 10:30 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> 
> If I go back to your prior posts, I see that DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST =
> "mail-server.mydomain.my". Thus I expect that the entries in
> /etc/mailman/transport-mailman are all @mail-server.mydomain.my. This
> would explain the problem. If this is what you want, you need to mail to
> tes...@mail-server.mydomain.my. If you actually want list addresses like
> tes...@mail-server.mydomain.my, you need to make the following changes
> in mm_cfg.py


That sentence should say "If you actually want list addresses like
tes...@mydomain.my, you need to make the following changes in mm_cfg.py"


> POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS   = ['mydomain.my']
> 
> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = "mydomain.my"
> 
> and run bin/genaliases.
> 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] User unknown in virtual mailbox table

2011-01-12 Thread Mark Sapiro

On 1/12/11 8:24 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
> 
> /var/log/maillog
> ===
> Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/pipe[4565]: B8C2C19C89C2:
> to=, relay=dovecot, delay=1.7,
> delays=1.6/0.04/0/0.07, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown)

OK, one more thing.

Is there an entry

tes...@mydomain.mylocal

in /etc/mailman/transport-mailman and does
/etc/mailman/transport-mailman.db have a timestamp equal to or more
recent than that of /etc/mailman/transport-mailman.

If I go back to your prior posts, I see that DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST =
"mail-server.mydomain.my". Thus I expect that the entries in
/etc/mailman/transport-mailman are all @mail-server.mydomain.my. This
would explain the problem. If this is what you want, you need to mail to
tes...@mail-server.mydomain.my. If you actually want list addresses like
tes...@mail-server.mydomain.my, you need to make the following changes
in mm_cfg.py

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS   = ['mydomain.my']

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = "mydomain.my"

and run bin/genaliases.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] {Disarmed} Re: User unknown in virtual mailbox table

2011-01-12 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis

2011/1/13 Mark Sapiro 

> Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
> Right, at least assuming you did reload Postfix after editing main.cf.
>
>
yes i did but with the same result

/var/log/maillog
===
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/pipe[4565]: B8C2C19C89C2:
to=, relay=dovecot, delay=1.7, delays=1.6/0.04/0/0.07,
dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown)
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/cleanup[4557]: 1B22B19C89C9: message-id=<
20110113121900.1b22b19c8...@mail-server.mydomain.my>
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/qmgr[4562]: 1B22B19C89C9: from=<>,
size=2538, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/bounce[4567]: B8C2C19C89C2: sender
non-delivery notification: 1B22B19C89C9
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/qmgr[4562]: B8C2C19C89C2: removed
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/pipe[4565]: 1B22B19C89C9:
to=, relay=dovecot, delay=0.85,
delays=0.02/0.02/0/0.81, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via dovecot
service)
Jan 13 20:19:00 hpj-mail postfix/qmgr[4562]: 1B22B19C89C9: removed


> You have exceeded my knowledge of Postfix. As far as I can see, you
> have the generated /etc/mailman/transport_mailman referenced in
> Postfix main.cf transport_maps =, and this should be specifying the
> 'local' transport for list mail, but the maillog shows 'relay=dovecot'
> (if it still does - have you verified this for the latest
> configuration?). If by chance, the current error in the maillog does
> not specify relay=dovecot, you can post that error as it may help.
>


all those configs were generated by iredmail script. I did not configure it
myself. The author of iredmail apparently had stopped supporting iredmail
with mailman


> But, if this mail is being handled by the dovecot transport instead of
> the local transport, I don't know why. You might try the postfix-users
> list  or the dovecot list
> . Perhaps someone
> there can help.
>
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>
>


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Need Script to Apend to acceptable_aliases

2011-01-12 Thread Mark Sapiro

Barry Finkel wrote:
>
>I have not looked at the Mailman source, so I am not sure what is
>failing.  Is it the case that the
>
>  accept_these_nonmembers
>
>is stored in a different internal format than
>
>  acceptable_aliases
>
>is?  This is a 2.1.14 package built from the SourceForge source.  


Yes. accept_these_nonmembers is a Python list whose elements are
strings equal to email addresses or regexps matching email addresses.
accept_these_nonmembers is a single string consisting of zero or more
email addresses separated by newlines.

You could do a few different things in your config_list input. One such
would be

if mlist.acceptable_aliases:
mlist.acceptable_aliases += '\ntestu...@example.com'
else:
mlist.acceptable_aliases = 'testu...@example.com'

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Re: [Mailman-Users] {Disarmed} Re: User unknown in virtual mailbox table

2011-01-12 Thread Mark Sapiro

Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
>
>2011/1/13 Mark Sapiro 
>
>>
>> I don't see
>>
>> local unix  -   n   n   -   -   local
>>
>> in the above. Is that a complete listing of master.cf? If so, add the
>> above line and reload Postfix and see if that helps.
>>
>>
>it is there, i did not paste all of master.cf. So i guess reloading postfix
>won't do.

Right, at least assuming you did reload Postfix after editing main.cf.

You have exceeded my knowledge of Postfix. As far as I can see, you
have the generated /etc/mailman/transport_mailman referenced in
Postfix main.cf transport_maps =, and this should be specifying the
'local' transport for list mail, but the maillog shows 'relay=dovecot'
(if it still does - have you verified this for the latest
configuration?). If by chance, the current error in the maillog does
not specify relay=dovecot, you can post that error as it may help.

But, if this mail is being handled by the dovecot transport instead of
the local transport, I don't know why. You might try the postfix-users
list  or the dovecot list
. Perhaps someone
there can help.

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[Mailman-Users] Need Script to Apend to acceptable_aliases

2011-01-12 Thread Barry Finkel


I have a script that adds an e-mail address to

 accept_these_nonmembers

for a number of lists.

# From a Mailman-Users reply August 19, 2007 to my posting:
# Mark Sapiro replied:
# Not directly, but in a shell script you could prepare a file that
# looks like
#
# mlist.accept_these_nonmembers.append('usera at example.com')
# mlist.accept_these_nonmembers.append('userb at example.com')
#
# and so on for all the non-members you want to add and then run
#
# bin/config_list -i filename listname
#
# where filename is the name of the above file.


I now have a need to add an e-mail address to

 acceptable_aliases

for a number of lists.  I took the existing script and cloned it.
When I ran it I got some messages:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/sbin/config_list", line 362, in ?
 main()
   File "/usr/sbin/config_list", line 357, in main
 do_input(listname, infile, checkonly, verbose)
   File "/usr/sbin/config_list", line 263, in do_input
 execfile(infile, globals)
   File "append_acceptable_aliases.file", line 1, in ?
 mlist.acceptable_aliases.append('testu...@example.com')
 AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'append'

I have not looked at the Mailman source, so I am not sure what is
failing.  Is it the case that the

 accept_these_nonmembers

is stored in a different internal format than

 acceptable_aliases

is?  This is a 2.1.14 package built from the SourceForge source.  Thanks.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] User unknown in virtual mailbox table

2011-01-12 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis

2011/1/13 Mark Sapiro 

>
> I don't see
>
> local unix  -   n   n   -   -   local
>
> in the above. Is that a complete listing of master.cf? If so, add the
> above line and reload Postfix and see if that helps.
>
>
it is there, i did not paste all of master.cf. So i guess reloading postfix
won't do.

this is all of my master.cf

# cat /etc/postfix/master.cf
#
# Postfix master process configuration file.  For details on the format
# of the file, see the master(5) manual page (command: "man 5 master").
#
# Do not forget to execute "postfix reload" after editing this file.
#
# ==
# service type  private unpriv  chroot  wakeup  maxproc command + args
#   (yes)   (yes)   (yes)   (never) (100)
# ==
smtp  inet  n   -   -   -   -   smtpd
#submission inet n   -   n   -   -   smtpd
#  -o smtpd_tls_security_level=encrypt
#  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
#  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
#  -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING
#smtps inet  n   -   n   -   -   smtpd
#  -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes
#  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
#  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
#  -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING
#628  inet  n   -   n   -   -   qmqpd
#pickupfifo  n   -   n   60  1   pickup
cleanup   unix  n   -   n   -   0   cleanup
qmgr  fifo  n   -   n   300 1   qmgr
#qmgr fifo  n   -   n   300 1   oqmgr
tlsmgrunix  -   -   n   1000?   1   tlsmgr
rewrite   unix  -   -   n   -   -   trivial-rewrite
bounceunix  -   -   n   -   0   bounce
defer unix  -   -   n   -   0   bounce
trace unix  -   -   n   -   0   bounce
verifyunix  -   -   n   -   1   verify
flush unix  n   -   n   1000?   0   flush
proxymap  unix  -   -   n   -   -   proxymap
proxywrite unix -   -   n   -   1   proxymap
smtp  unix  -   -   n   -   -   smtp
# When relaying mail as backup MX, disable fallback_relay to avoid MX loops
relay unix  -   -   n   -   -   smtp
-o smtp_fallback_relay=
#   -o smtp_helo_timeout=5 -o smtp_connect_timeout=5
showq unix  n   -   n   -   -   showq
error unix  -   -   n   -   -   error
retry unix  -   -   n   -   -   error
discard   unix  -   -   n   -   -   discard
local unix  -   n   n   -   -   local
virtual   unix  -   n   n   -   -   virtual
lmtp  unix  -   -   n   -   -   lmtp
anvil unix  -   -   n   -   1   anvil
scacheunix  -   -   n   -   1   scache
#
# 
# Interfaces to non-Postfix software. Be sure to examine the manual
# pages of the non-Postfix software to find out what options it wants.
#
# Many of the following services use the Postfix pipe(8) delivery
# agent.  See the pipe(8) man page for information about ${recipient}
# and other message envelope options.
# 
#
# maildrop. See the Postfix MAILDROP_README file for details.
# Also specify in main.cf: maildrop_destination_recipient_limit=1
#
#maildrop  unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
#  flags=DRhu user=vmail argv=/usr/local/bin/maildrop -d ${recipient}
#
# 
#
# The Cyrus deliver program has changed incompatibly, multiple times.
#
#old-cyrus unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
#  flags=R user=cyrus argv=/usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver -e -m ${extension}
${user}
#
# 
#
# Cyrus 2.1.5 (Amos Gouaux)
# Also specify in main.cf: cyrus_destination_recipient_limit=1
#
#cyrus unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
#  user=cyrus argv=/usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/deliver -e -r ${sender} -m
${extension} ${user}
#
# 
#
# See the Postfix UUCP_README file for configuration details.
#
#uucp  unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
#  flags=Fqhu user=uucp argv=uux -r -n -z -a$sender - $nexthop!rmail
($recipient)
#
# 
#
# Other external delivery methods.
#
#ifmailunix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
#  flags=F user=ftn argv=/usr/lib/ifmail/ifmail -r $n

Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing password reminders

2011-01-12 Thread Mark Sapiro

Allan Hansen wrote:
>
>I run Mailman 2.1.13 under Mac OS X Server 10.5.8. The mail delivery works
>fine (so far), but some of my subscribers insist that they are not getting
>the password reminders. One uses Google Mail, another Earthlink, so it's
>not provider specific. They assure me that the password reminder is not in
>their spam folder. The lists have password reminders turned on and the
>users have password reminders turned on. For the users that complain, I
>don't have bounces resulting from the reminders. Other users of the same
>lists get password reminders just fine.

Just a couple of remarks in addition to Larry Stone's advice.

Password reminders are sent from the site (mailman) list. In Mailman
2.1.13, bounces of messages from the site list are sent to the
owner(s) of the site list and not processed automatically. If the site
list owner is not a deliverable address whose mail you receive, you
won't see any password reminder bounces.

Some ISPs may filter or even discard password reminders. They can be
seen as spam because of the very large number of similar messages
being sent at one time. Services like Vipul's Razor
 and Pyzor
 will generally flag password
reminders.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] User unknown in virtual mailbox table

2011-01-12 Thread Mark Sapiro

Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
>
>2011/1/12 Mark Sapiro 
>
>Have you redefined the 'local' transport in master.cf to use dovecot?
>> If so, this can't work with Mailman. If so, you could define another
>> transport, say 'reallylocal' to use postfix local delivery, and modify
>> the sed command in /etc/mailman/virtual_to_transport to specify that
>> transport.
>>
>>
>did you mean these:
>
># Use dovecot deliver program as LDA.
>dovecot unix-   n   n   -   -  pipe
>flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -f
>${sender} -d ${us...@${domain}
>procmail unix-   n   n   -   -  pipe
>  flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/bin/procmail -r -t SENDER=${sender}
>RECIPIENT=${recipient} DOMAIN=${nexthop} -m USER=${user}
>EXTENSION=${extension} /etc/procmailrc
>smtp-amavis unix -  -   -   -   2  smtp
>-o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200
>-o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
>-o disable_dns_lookups=yes
>-o max_use=20
>
>127.0.0.1:10025 inet n  -   -   -   -  smtpd
>-o content_filter=
>-o local_recipient_maps=
>-o relay_recipient_maps=
>-o smtpd_restriction_classes=
>-o smtpd_delay_reject=no
>-o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
>-o smtpd_helo_restrictions=
>-o smtpd_sender_restrictions=
>-o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
>-o mynetworks_style=host
>-o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8
>-o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes
>-o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0
>-o smtpd_soft_error_limit=1001
>-o smtpd_hard_error_limit=1000
>-o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0
>-o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0
>-o
>receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_address_mappings
># Bypass checks for internally generated mail.
>pickupfifo  n   -   n   60  1   pickup
>  -o content_filter=
>submission inet n   -   n   -   -   smtpd
>  -o smtpd_enforce_tls=yes
>  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
>  -o
>smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
>#  -o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10026
>
>smtps inet  n   -   n   -   -   smtpd
>  -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes
>  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
>  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
>#  -o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10026
># Use dovecot deliver program as LDA.
>dovecot unix-   n   n   -   -  pipe
>flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -f
>${sender} -d ${us...@${domain}
>procmail unix-   n   n   -   -  pipe
>  flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/bin/procmail -r -t SENDER=${sender}
>RECIPIENT=${recipient} DOMAIN=${nexthop} -m USER=${user}
>EXTENSION=${extension} /etc/procmailrc
>smtp-amavis unix -  -   -   -   2  smtp
>-o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200
>-o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
>-o disable_dns_lookups=yes
>-o max_use=20
>
>127.0.0.1:10025 inet n  -   -   -   -  smtpd
>-o content_filter=
>-o local_recipient_maps=
>-o relay_recipient_maps=
>-o smtpd_restriction_classes=
>-o smtpd_delay_reject=no
>-o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
>-o smtpd_helo_restrictions=
>-o smtpd_sender_restrictions=
>-o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
>-o mynetworks_style=host
>-o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8
>-o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes
>-o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0
>-o smtpd_soft_error_limit=1001
>-o smtpd_hard_error_limit=1000
>-o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0
>-o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0
>-o
>receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_address_mappings


I don't see

local unix  -   n   n   -   -   local

in the above. Is that a complete listing of master.cf? If so, add the
above line and reload Postfix and see if that helps.


>is there any document that you could point me to achieve what you had
>suggested? Many thanks.


Try

man 5 master

or see .

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing password reminders

2011-01-12 Thread Larry Stone


On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Allan Hansen wrote:


Hi all,

I run Mailman 2.1.13 under Mac OS X Server 10.5.8. The mail delivery works
fine (so far), but some of my subscribers insist that they are not getting
the password reminders. One uses Google Mail, another Earthlink, so it's
not provider specific. They assure me that the password reminder is not in
their spam folder. The lists have password reminders turned on and the
users have password reminders turned on. For the users that complain, I
don't have bounces resulting from the reminders. Other users of the same
lists get password reminders just fine.


First, determine if it's actually your problem and if so, is it a Mailman 
problem or someplace else on your system. look at your mail server logs 
and see if the message went out. If the password reminder message is being 
accepted by their provider, then it is not your problem.


If you don't see it being accepted, then determine where things are 
failing on your system. Is Mailman giving it to the mail server (Postfix 
on a Macintosh)? Once Postfix has it, Mailman has done its job.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL email not getting messages

2011-01-12 Thread Mike McFall

I didn't do anything, but for some reason she just started receiving
emails.  Thanks for your help!

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> Mike McFall wrote:
>
> >The only boxes in her subscription that are checked are "nodupes" and
> >"plain"  just like everyone else.
>
>
> Are there other AOL users that receive posts? If so, it may be some
> filtering in her own AOL account. She should try adding the
> listname-boun...@list.domain address to her AOL address book.
>
> If not, see the FAQ at .
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] {Disarmed} Re: User unknown in virtual mailbox table

2011-01-12 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis

2011/1/12 Mark Sapiro 

Have you redefined the 'local' transport in master.cf to use dovecot?
> If so, this can't work with Mailman. If so, you could define another
> transport, say 'reallylocal' to use postfix local delivery, and modify
> the sed command in /etc/mailman/virtual_to_transport to specify that
> transport.
>
>
did you mean these:

# Use dovecot deliver program as LDA.
dovecot unix-   n   n   -   -  pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -f
${sender} -d ${us...@${domain}
procmail unix-   n   n   -   -  pipe
  flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/bin/procmail -r -t SENDER=${sender}
RECIPIENT=${recipient} DOMAIN=${nexthop} -m USER=${user}
EXTENSION=${extension} /etc/procmailrc
smtp-amavis unix -  -   -   -   2  smtp
-o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200
-o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
-o disable_dns_lookups=yes
-o max_use=20

127.0.0.1:10025 inet n  -   -   -   -  smtpd
-o content_filter=
-o local_recipient_maps=
-o relay_recipient_maps=
-o smtpd_restriction_classes=
-o smtpd_delay_reject=no
-o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o smtpd_helo_restrictions=
-o smtpd_sender_restrictions=
-o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o mynetworks_style=host
-o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8
-o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes
-o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0
-o smtpd_soft_error_limit=1001
-o smtpd_hard_error_limit=1000
-o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0
-o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0
-o
receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_address_mappings
# Bypass checks for internally generated mail.
pickupfifo  n   -   n   60  1   pickup
  -o content_filter=
submission inet n   -   n   -   -   smtpd
  -o smtpd_enforce_tls=yes
  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
  -o
smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
#  -o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10026

smtps inet  n   -   n   -   -   smtpd
  -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes
  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes
  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
#  -o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10026
# Use dovecot deliver program as LDA.
dovecot unix-   n   n   -   -  pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -f
${sender} -d ${us...@${domain}
procmail unix-   n   n   -   -  pipe
  flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/bin/procmail -r -t SENDER=${sender}
RECIPIENT=${recipient} DOMAIN=${nexthop} -m USER=${user}
EXTENSION=${extension} /etc/procmailrc
smtp-amavis unix -  -   -   -   2  smtp
-o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200
-o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes
-o disable_dns_lookups=yes
-o max_use=20

127.0.0.1:10025 inet n  -   -   -   -  smtpd
-o content_filter=
-o local_recipient_maps=
-o relay_recipient_maps=
-o smtpd_restriction_classes=
-o smtpd_delay_reject=no
-o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o smtpd_helo_restrictions=
-o smtpd_sender_restrictions=
-o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
-o mynetworks_style=host
-o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8
-o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes
-o smtpd_error_sleep_time=0
-o smtpd_soft_error_limit=1001
-o smtpd_hard_error_limit=1000
-o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=0
-o smtpd_client_connection_rate_limit=0
-o
receive_override_options=no_header_body_checks,no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_address_mappings

is there any document that you could point me to achieve what you had
suggested? Many thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL email not getting messages

2011-01-12 Thread Mark Sapiro

Mike McFall wrote:

>The only boxes in her subscription that are checked are "nodupes" and
>"plain"  just like everyone else.


Are there other AOL users that receive posts? If so, it may be some
filtering in her own AOL account. She should try adding the
listname-boun...@list.domain address to her AOL address book.

If not, see the FAQ at .

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Re: [Mailman-Users] German umlaut in From-line using outlookexchangewith closed lists

2011-01-12 Thread Werner Spirk

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> Werner Spirk wrote:
> >
> >That's not really correct.
> >There are three cases:
> >
> >1. the patch works if the sender is within the closed list
> >2. it doesn't work if the sender is in  accept_these_nonmembers
> >3. the DSN goes to the wrong address if the sender is not allowed
> >   to post to the list
>
>
> This is the behavior I would expect without the patch. Did you restart
> Mailman after applying the patches?

OK - you are right: I did'nt restart mailman.

Sorry for that

Thanks a lot
Werner



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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL email not getting messages

2011-01-12 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

* Mike McFall :
> The only boxes in her subscription that are checked are "nodupes" and
> "plain"  just like everyone else.

OK!

> > Check your logs!

What about those?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL email not getting messages

2011-01-12 Thread Mike McFall

The only boxes in her subscription that are checked are "nodupes" and
"plain"  just like everyone else.



On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt <
ralf.hildebra...@charite.de> wrote:

> * Mike McFall :
> > I have a subscriber who is using AOL for email, and she isn't receiving
> > messages that are sent out to the mail list.
>
> The settings for her a set in a way that she IS supposed to receive
> mail?
>
> > She can send them out from her AOL email, but isn't getting any.
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
> Check your logs!
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL email not getting messages

2011-01-12 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

* Mike McFall :
> I have a subscriber who is using AOL for email, and she isn't receiving
> messages that are sent out to the mail list.

The settings for her a set in a way that she IS supposed to receive
mail?
 
> She can send them out from her AOL email, but isn't getting any.
> 
> Any ideas?

Check your logs!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] German umlaut in From-line using outlookexchangewith closed lists

2011-01-12 Thread Mark Sapiro

Werner Spirk wrote:
>
>That's not really correct.
>There are three cases:
>
>1. the patch works if the sender is within the closed list
>2. it doesn't work if the sender is in  accept_these_nonmembers
>3. the DSN goes to the wrong address if the sender is not allowed
>   to post to the list


This is the behavior I would expect without the patch. Did you restart
Mailman after applying the patches?

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[Mailman-Users] AOL email not getting messages

2011-01-12 Thread Mike McFall

I have a subscriber who is using AOL for email, and she isn't receiving
messages that are sent out to the mail list.

She can send them out from her AOL email, but isn't getting any.

Any ideas?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] German umlaut in From-line using outlookexchangewith closed lists

2011-01-12 Thread Mark Sapiro

Werner Spirk wrote:
>>
>> I put in your patch and it works !!
>
>That was mine: the test was sent to an open list
>sorry -- it didn't do


What exactly doesn't work in this case? How is the list configured and
exactly what went wrong?


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[Mailman-Users] Missing password reminders

2011-01-12 Thread Allan Hansen

Hi all,

I run Mailman 2.1.13 under Mac OS X Server 10.5.8. The mail delivery works
fine (so far), but some of my subscribers insist that they are not getting
the password reminders. One uses Google Mail, another Earthlink, so it's
not provider specific. They assure me that the password reminder is not in
their spam folder. The lists have password reminders turned on and the
users have password reminders turned on. For the users that complain, I
don't have bounces resulting from the reminders. Other users of the same
lists get password reminders just fine.

I looked through the archives and did not find anything indicating that I'm
not the only one with this problem. Thus my message here.

Thanks,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] German umlaut in From-line using outlook exchangewith closed lists

2011-01-12 Thread Werner Spirk

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Werner Spirk wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Werner Spirk wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello Mark,
> >
> > I put in your patch and it works !!
>
> That was mine: the test was sent to an open list
> sorry -- it didn't do
>

That's not really correct.
There are three cases:

1. the patch works if the sender is within the closed list
2. it doesn't work if the sender is in  accept_these_nonmembers
3. the DSN goes to the wrong address if the sender is not allowed
   to post to the list


Best regards
Werner





> >
> > On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> >
> > > Werner Spirk wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Mails sent from outlook exchange will not be sent to a closed list
> > > >when there is a German umlaut within the name like
> > > >
> > > >From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mai=2C_G=FCnter?= 
> > > >
> > > >in general:
> > > >
> > > >Mail sent
> > > >From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Surname=2C_Givenname?= 
> > > >
> > > >causes an undeliverable message by mailman sent to
> > > >surn...@mailman.lrz-muenchen.de, if the list in a closed list:
> > >
> > >
> > > It is not the umlaut that causes the problem. It is the comma.
> > >
> > >
> > > >Outlook Exchange goes conform with RFC 2047 .
> > >
> > >
> > > You are correct, but this is tricky. The intent of RFC 2047 section 5,
> > > rule 3 is that an encoded word such as
> > > =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mai=2C_G=FCnter?= when used as the real name portion of
> > > an address will not contain any of the characters which are not
> > > allowed unquoted in this context, and this is true of that encoded
> > > word.
> > >
> > > However, Mailman looks at the From: header, and because of the way it
> > > processes this, it sees an ascii decoded header value which looks like
> > > 'Mai, G?nter '. It then parses this and gets two
> > > email addresses, 'mai' and 'guenter@lrz.de' because of the
> > > unquoted comma.
> > >
> > > For some purposes, such as determining whether a post is from a list
> > > member, Mailman considers all the addresses and will determine that
> > > this  is from a list member if 'guenter@lrz.de' is a member, but
> > > if the post is held for some reason such as 'guenter@lrz.de' is
> > > moderated, the notice to the user will be sent to only the first
> > > address 'mai' which is invalid.
> > >
> > > So, yes, you are correct that Mailman is not doing the right thing here.
> > >
> > > I've developed a patch that I think will fix this without any other
> > > side effects. I've attached that as rfc2047.patch.txt. Please try this
> > > patch and see if it solves your problems.
> > >
> > > --
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> > > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >   ++
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> >   | Leibniz-Rechenzentrum  (_)  (_)  Fax :  +49 89  35831 8507 |
> >   | Boltzmannstr. 1| |  | ||
> >   | 85748 Garching |o|  |o|  Email: sp...@lrz.de   |
> >   || |/\| ||
> >   | Deutschland   bei Münchenhttp://www.lrz.de/~spirk/ |
> >   ++
> >
>
>
>   ++
>   | Werner Spirk..   Tel.:  +49 89  35831 8707 |
>   | Leibniz-Rechenzentrum  (_)  (_)  Fax :  +49 89  35831 8507 |
>   | Boltzmannstr. 1| |  | ||
>   | 85748 Garching |o|  |o|  Email: sp...@lrz.de   |
>   || |/\| ||
>   | Deutschland   bei Münchenhttp://www.lrz.de/~spirk/ |
>   ++
>


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  | 85748 Garching |o|  |o|  Email: sp...@lrz.de   |
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  | Deutschland   bei Münchenhttp://www.lrz.de/~spirk/ |
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Re: [Mailman-Users] German umlaut in From-line using outlook exchangewith closed lists

2011-01-12 Thread Werner Spirk

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Werner Spirk wrote:

>
> Hello Mark,
>
> I put in your patch and it works !!

That was mine: the test was sent to an open list
sorry -- it didn't do

here the diffs ( are the patches correct?):

diff Message.py Message.py.orig
1c1
< # Copyright (C) 1998-2011 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
---
> # Copyright (C) 1998-2009 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
154,156c154
< # Actually, just get the raw header as one line in case
the
< # decoded words contain a comma.
< fieldval = Utils.oneline(fieldval, 'us-ascii', raw=True)
---
> fieldval = Utils.oneline(fieldval, 'us-ascii')
212c210
< fieldvals = [Utils.oneline(fv, 'us-ascii',
raw=True)
---
> fieldvals = [Utils.oneline(fv, 'us-ascii')

 diff Utils.py U.orig
UserDesc.py Utils.pyUtils.py.orig
UserDesc.pycUtils.pyc   Utils.py.roig
lxmhs42 mailman/Mailman> diff Utils.py Utils.py.orig
1c1
< # Copyright (C) 1998-2011 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
---
> # Copyright (C) 1998-2010 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
889,892c889
< def oneline(s, cset, raw=False):
< if raw:
< # Just return the header as one line without decoding
< return EMPTYSTRING.join(s.splitlines())
---
> def oneline(s, cset):

Werner


>
> Thank you very much
>
> Werner
>
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> > Werner Spirk wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Mails sent from outlook exchange will not be sent to a closed list
> > >when there is a German umlaut within the name like
> > >
> > >From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mai=2C_G=FCnter?= 
> > >
> > >in general:
> > >
> > >Mail sent
> > >From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Surname=2C_Givenname?= 
> > >
> > >causes an undeliverable message by mailman sent to
> > >surn...@mailman.lrz-muenchen.de, if the list in a closed list:
> >
> >
> > It is not the umlaut that causes the problem. It is the comma.
> >
> >
> > >Outlook Exchange goes conform with RFC 2047 .
> >
> >
> > You are correct, but this is tricky. The intent of RFC 2047 section 5,
> > rule 3 is that an encoded word such as
> > =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mai=2C_G=FCnter?= when used as the real name portion of
> > an address will not contain any of the characters which are not
> > allowed unquoted in this context, and this is true of that encoded
> > word.
> >
> > However, Mailman looks at the From: header, and because of the way it
> > processes this, it sees an ascii decoded header value which looks like
> > 'Mai, G?nter '. It then parses this and gets two
> > email addresses, 'mai' and 'guenter@lrz.de' because of the
> > unquoted comma.
> >
> > For some purposes, such as determining whether a post is from a list
> > member, Mailman considers all the addresses and will determine that
> > this  is from a list member if 'guenter@lrz.de' is a member, but
> > if the post is held for some reason such as 'guenter@lrz.de' is
> > moderated, the notice to the user will be sent to only the first
> > address 'mai' which is invalid.
> >
> > So, yes, you are correct that Mailman is not doing the right thing here.
> >
> > I've developed a patch that I think will fix this without any other
> > side effects. I've attached that as rfc2047.patch.txt. Please try this
> > patch and see if it solves your problems.
> >
> > --
> > Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
> > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
> >
> >
>
>
>   ++
>   | Werner Spirk..   Tel.:  +49 89  35831 8707 |
>   | Leibniz-Rechenzentrum  (_)  (_)  Fax :  +49 89  35831 8507 |
>   | Boltzmannstr. 1| |  | ||
>   | 85748 Garching |o|  |o|  Email: sp...@lrz.de   |
>   || |/\| ||
>   | Deutschland   bei Münchenhttp://www.lrz.de/~spirk/ |
>   ++
>


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  | Leibniz-Rechenzentrum  (_)  (_)  Fax :  +49 89  35831 8507 |
  | Boltzmannstr. 1| |  | ||
  | 85748 Garching |o|  |o|  Email: sp...@lrz.de   |
  || |/\| ||
  | Deutschland   bei Münchenhttp://www.lrz.de/~spirk/ |
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Re: [Mailman-Users] German umlaut in From-line using outlook exchangewith closed lists

2011-01-12 Thread Werner Spirk


Hello Mark,

I put in your patch and it works !!

Thank you very much

Werner



On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> Werner Spirk wrote:
>
> >
> >Mails sent from outlook exchange will not be sent to a closed list
> >when there is a German umlaut within the name like
> >
> >From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mai=2C_G=FCnter?= 
> >
> >in general:
> >
> >Mail sent
> >From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Surname=2C_Givenname?= 
> >
> >causes an undeliverable message by mailman sent to
> >surn...@mailman.lrz-muenchen.de, if the list in a closed list:
>
>
> It is not the umlaut that causes the problem. It is the comma.
>
>
> >Outlook Exchange goes conform with RFC 2047 .
>
>
> You are correct, but this is tricky. The intent of RFC 2047 section 5,
> rule 3 is that an encoded word such as
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mai=2C_G=FCnter?= when used as the real name portion of
> an address will not contain any of the characters which are not
> allowed unquoted in this context, and this is true of that encoded
> word.
>
> However, Mailman looks at the From: header, and because of the way it
> processes this, it sees an ascii decoded header value which looks like
> 'Mai, G?nter '. It then parses this and gets two
> email addresses, 'mai' and 'guenter@lrz.de' because of the
> unquoted comma.
>
> For some purposes, such as determining whether a post is from a list
> member, Mailman considers all the addresses and will determine that
> this  is from a list member if 'guenter@lrz.de' is a member, but
> if the post is held for some reason such as 'guenter@lrz.de' is
> moderated, the notice to the user will be sent to only the first
> address 'mai' which is invalid.
>
> So, yes, you are correct that Mailman is not doing the right thing here.
>
> I've developed a patch that I think will fix this without any other
> side effects. I've attached that as rfc2047.patch.txt. Please try this
> patch and see if it solves your problems.
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
>
>


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  | 85748 Garching |o|  |o|  Email: sp...@lrz.de   |
  || |/\| ||
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