Re: [Mailman-Users] can I use a mailman list address as a (qmail)sender address?
Hi! Someone already suggested this (use of an existing account and spoof the From-Line) and I replied to (and thanked) him over the list -- we will do it this way, it's the easiest solution. It also has the advantage of an individual account for each admin, so if someone quits we simply delete his account. With the single account of the correct mail user we would have only one username/password for each and every admin and would have to change the password after every parting admin. Best regards, Stefan. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] reverse anonymous list
I'm a long time happy user/admin for mailman lists, but am stumped on a new request. User wants to do a send-only list, where neither mailman or the list's name appears in mailings. It would look like a simple email from poster, and bcc'd to receivers who could reply to that poster (but not to the list). (Sometimes the very existence of a list, or the name of a list, can be sensitive - even if just exposed to members of the list.) I was tempted to just do it as a batch python email app, but am trying mailman first.So far we've configured for: a) Everyone on list is moderated, and mailings from moderated are discarded b) The valid senders are non-members and are listed on non-member- approved-to-send config list. c) Reply to Poster But mailman and the listname still appear in headers and footers. I looked at Default.py (and mm_cfg.py), the template txt files, Handlers.CookedHeaders.py, and Handlers.Decorate. I think I *need* to doctor the Decorate.decorate SafeDict. Is that the right approach? Is there a way to do this via mm_cfg?Any way to make it list-specific? Anybody try this before? Thanks in advance. If I don't hear from you, I'll make a separate mailman installation (on a separate VM) and hack the Decorate module.Since the users want to do dozens of lists configured this way, a separate installation makes sense. Harry G. George harry.g.geo...@boeing.com 425-717-7403 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Issue with ISP limiting email
My ISP limits email sent from our server to 250 / hr. We have 258 subscribers to our list. They have recently upgraded the limit to 300 / hr. This means we can send out 1 email / hr Does mailman offer any functionality to help with this problem? For example, we could approve the messages as they come in and mailman could send them out as allowed? As of now, we have to remember when the last email was approved for distribution. Kinda cumbersome all around. Sincerely, Scott Ewing s...@prodigy.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Issue with ISP limiting email
On 2/13/2012 7:16 AM, scott ewing wrote: My ISP limits email sent from our server to 250 / hr. We have 258 subscribers to our list. They have recently upgraded the limit to 300 / hr. This means we can send out 1 email / hr Does mailman offer any functionality to help with this problem? For example, we could approve the messages as they come in and mailman could send them out as allowed? See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/j4A9. If Mailman is running on your own server and only sending via your ISP, installing the throttle.patch attached to that FAQ may help. Also see http://wiki.list.org/display/COM/Mailman+hosting+services. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Issue with ISP limiting email
On 2/13/2012 10:16 AM, scott ewing wrote: My ISP limits email sent from our server to 250 / hr. We have 258 subscribers to our list. They have recently upgraded the limit to 300 / hr. This means we can send out 1 email / hr Does mailman offer any functionality to help with this problem? For example, we could approve the messages as they come in and mailman could send them out as allowed? As of now, we have to remember when the last email was approved for distribution. Kinda cumbersome all around. Sincerely, Scott Ewing s...@prodigy.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/brian%40emwd.com Hi Scott: Mailman does not offer such a feature. My suggestion is to look for an ISP such as ours that does not impose any sending limits on its mailman users. You can get more information about our mailman hosting at http://www.emwd.com/mailman.html -- Brian Carpenter Owner | EMWD dotList br...@emwd.com | http://www.emwd.com | http://www.mailmanhost.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] reverse anonymous list
On 2/13/2012 8:50 AM, George, Harry G wrote: I'm a long time happy user/admin for mailman lists, but am stumped on a new request. User wants to do a send-only list, where neither mailman or the list's name appears in mailings. It would look like a simple email from poster, and bcc'd to receivers who could reply to that poster (but not to the list). (Sometimes the very existence of a list, or the name of a list, can be sensitive - even if just exposed to members of the list.) I was tempted to just do it as a batch python email app, but am trying mailman first.So far we've configured for: That may be the better way. a) Everyone on list is moderated, and mailings from moderated are discarded b) The valid senders are non-members and are listed on non-member- approved-to-send config list. It is much more secure to have the authorized posters post using an Approved: password header. Then it doesn't matter if they are moderated members or not, and spoofing doesn't work. c) Reply to Poster But mailman and the listname still appear in headers and footers. I looked at Default.py (and mm_cfg.py), the template txt files, Handlers.CookedHeaders.py, and Handlers.Decorate. I think I *need* to doctor the Decorate.decorate SafeDict. Decorate only replaces variables in msg_header, msg_footer, digest_header and digest_footer. Unless you want to create new replacements, you should be able to make msg_header, msg_footer, etc. what you want by just changing those list attributes. If you make set the list's personalize setting 'Full Personalization' (see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/UYA9), that will set the To: header to the recipient. It will also put the list address in a Cc: which you don't want. I suggest you address this and perhaps other issues such as Received: headers by creating a custom handler to be inserted in the pipeline of this list only following CookHeaders. This handler would remove or mung any header information you don't want on the list such as the Cc: added by CookHeaders. See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/l4A9 for info on custom handlers. Is that the right approach? Is there a way to do this via mm_cfg? Any way to make it list-specific? Anybody try this before? The custom handler can be list specific and everything else that I suggest is standard list configuration. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Issue with ISP limiting email
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 07:16:31AM -0800, scott ewing wrote: My ISP limits email sent from our server to 250 / hr. We have 258 subscribers to our list. They have recently upgraded the limit to 300 / hr. This means we can send out 1 email / hr Is this a one-way list? No? Does your daily email input exceed 27.91? In which case you have a problem. I would comment that 300/h is low, mine allows 2000/h There is a patch available to mailman that will allow you to throttle the mailman output. See the url http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030607 This at least will automate the despatch process for you. You must be running Mailman as a relay, same as myself, and I find that this patch does the job with no fuss although a fix in postfix may be preferred if that is what you are using. regards Anne Does mailman offer any functionality to help with this problem? For example, we could approve the messages as they come in and mailman could send them out as allowed? As of now, we have to remember when the last email was approved for distribution. Kinda cumbersome all around. Sincerely, Scott Ewing s...@prodigy.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/anotheranne%40fables.co.za -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
