Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman and outlook.com
On 07-10-13 04:36, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 10/04/2013 05:51 AM, Tim Sterk wrote: Hi All, I'm having a problem with outlook.com and mailman. When I'm trying to send a message through Outlook.com marks it as spam, but when I'm sending a message from the same domain (and IP address), it is accepted without a hitch. Underneath the headers of a message that is rejected at outlook.com: Rejected or marked as spam? They are not the same. And if it was rejected, where did you find the headers? They are moved into the unwanted box, so I was able to view the message and headers from there. *Is there anybody who can help me solving this problem? Probably only Microsoft, but the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/4oA9 may help. The interesting part for me is that this problem only applies to mail sent through mailman, if I'm sending an email to the same address from the same domain name it is accepted without a problem, so I'm thinking that there is something in the headers that triggers this reaction at outlook.com. p.s. the messages are accepted without a problem at gmail.com (I haven't tried any other major mail providers). Greetings, Tim Sterk -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman and outlook.com
On 10/09/2013 12:45 AM, Tim Sterk wrote: They are moved into the unwanted box, so I was able to view the message and headers from there. So they were not rejected but rather marked as spam and put in a spam box rather than the inbox. Had they been rejected, you wouldn't have seen them at all, and they would have been recorded as a bounce by Mailman. The interesting part for me is that this problem only applies to mail sent through mailman, if I'm sending an email to the same address from the same domain name it is accepted without a problem, so I'm thinking that there is something in the headers that triggers this reaction at outlook.com. Exactly. It could be the 'Precedence: list' header or some other header or combination of headers, but only Microsoft knows for sure, and they won't tell you because they consider it proprietary information which would be useful to spammers. Since you apparently use Mutt and have your own server, you could experiment by resending the message directly with all Mailman's added headers and delete headers one by one to find the header(s) that trigger it, but it is possible that this is a more complex situation than that which depends on the presence of certain headers in combination together with body contents. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Changing list name
I've been asked to change a list I manage to a different name. How is that done? If that can't be done, how would I transfer all of the subscribers to a newly created list, *without* asking these very, very busy folks to resubscribe. Thanks, Bill in Toronto -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing list name
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 03:49:22PM -0400, William McQueen wrote: I've been asked to change a list I manage to a different name. How is that done? https://gist.github.com/adamamyl/6909815 may be helpful to you; it's what I use. http://wiki.list.org/x/mYA9 may be of interest. If that can't be done, how would I transfer all of the subscribers to a newly created list, *without* asking these very, very busy folks to resubscribe. newlist, list_members, add_members with respective options (or indeed, respective steps via the web interface) -- Unacknowledged poets are the legislators of the world. (quoted from New Statesman by A. Monkhouse, 1933) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
