Re: [Mailman-Users] MM stats question and a moderation issue

2014-09-18 Thread James Nightly
 Since you moved servers, I suspect there are two lists and some things
 are going to/coming from the old list(s) and some are going to/coming
 from the new list(s).
 And how did you add the members to the new list(s)? config_list doesn't
 do anything with members or their passwords or options whereas moving
 the lists/LISTNAME/config.pck files moves all that.

I created new lists on the new server, copy/pasted member emails and
list settings (using config_list). There is only one set of lists, the
other server is offline. I get (many) daily moderation requests for
Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list. On the old
server members of the list were able to email the list, non-member
messages were sent to moderation.
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[Mailman-Users] Regex for spam

2014-09-18 Thread James Nightly
There used to be a nice set of regex for some common spam on the old
server that we had, but that crashed and I wasn't able to recover the
settings/regex. Would somebody be willing to share their regex?

If not, I wonder if this work if I add it to header_filter_rules:

ambien (?i)[a@/]+\\?.?m+.?[b8]+.?[i:1!\|]+.?[e3€]+.?n+\b
anal (?i)\banal\b
bulgary (?i)\b[b8].?[uv].?[li17\|].?[gq].?[a@/][\\]?r.?[yi1!:\|]?
cheapest pills (?i)cheapest\spills
cialis (?i)\bc.?[i1!:\|].?[a@/][\\]?.?[li17\|].?[i1!:\|].?[s235$]
credit (?i)\bc.?r.?[e3€].?d.?[i1!:\|].?[t\+]
discount (?i)\bd.?[i1!:\|].?[s235$].?c.?[oQ0].?[uv].?n.?[t\+]?
ejaculation (?i)ejaculation
enlargement (?i)enlargement
levitra \b[LlIi17\|].?[Ee3].?[Vv\\][/]?.?[Ii1!:\|].?[Tt\+].?[Rr].?[Aa@/]?[\\]?
(v nicht optional!)
money (?i)\bm.?[oQ0].?n.?[e3€].?y
mortgage \b[Mm].?[OoQ0].?[Rr].?[Tt\+].?[Ggq].?[Aa@/][\\]?.?[Ggq].?[Ee3€]?
natural weight loss (?i)(natural\s)?weight(\s)?loss
omega \b[OoQ0].?[Mm].?[Ee3€].?[Ggq].?[Aa@/][\\]?
online pharmacy (?i)online\spharmacy
penis (?i)\bp+.?[e3€]+.?n+.?[i1!:\|]+.?[s5$]+\b
pharmaceuticals (?i)pharmaceuticals
porno (?i)\bp.?[oQ0].?r.?n.?[oQ0]?
premature (?i)premature
prescription (?i)prescription
refinance 
\b[Rr].?[Ee3€].?[Ff].?[Ii1!:\|].?[Nn].?[Aa@/][\\]?.?[Nn].?[CcZz].?[Ee3€]?
rolex \b[Rr].?[OoQ0].?[LlIi17\|].?[Ee3€].?[Xx]
sex \b[Ss25$].?[Ee3€].?[Xx].?[Yy]?\b
soma [Ss25$].?[OoQ0].?[Mm].?[Aa]?\b oder \b[Ss25$].?[OoQ0].?[Mm].?[Aa/][\\]?\b
src=3Dcid: src=3Dcid:
src=cid: src=cid:
valium (?i)[v\\]+/?.?[a@/]+\\?.?[li17\|]+.?[il1!:\|]+.?[uv]+.?m+\b
xanax \b[Xx].?[Aa@/][\\]?.?[Nn].?[Aa@/][\\]?.?[Xx]?
X-Spam-Level:  X-Spam-Level:\s\*{8,30}
 SPAM  (?i)\*{1,6}spam\*{1,6}
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[Mailman-Users] Moderated Members Email Messages Disappearing

2014-09-18 Thread Shannon Doane


I recently had my email lists migrated from one server to another and am 
working with Mailman version 2.1.18-1. Unfortunately I can't remember the 
version of the old Mailman before the migration.

The issue I'm having with the migrated email lists is that when a moderated 
member sends an email to the list, it never makes it to the Tend to pending 
moderator requests. The email just disappears into thin air as if it never 
existed. If I switch the same members email account to non-moderated and they 
send an email to the list the message goes through to everyone on the list just 
as it should.

For testing purposes I also set up a brand new email list on the new server and 
it works exactly as it should without any issues. This problem seems to be with 
the migrated lists only. 

Any ideas as to why this could be occurring? 

Thank you!!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated Members Email Messages Disappearing

2014-09-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/18/2014 06:26 AM, Shannon Doane wrote:
 
 The issue I'm having with the migrated email lists is that when a moderated 
 member sends an email to the list, it never makes it to the Tend to pending 
 moderator requests. The email just disappears into thin air as if it never 
 existed. If I switch the same members email account to non-moderated and they 
 send an email to the list the message goes through to everyone on the list 
 just as it should.


Check Privacy options... - Sender filters - member_moderation_action
for the affected lists. It is probably set to Discard rather than Hold.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated Members Email Messages Disappearing

2014-09-18 Thread Shannon Doane


Hi Mark,

Thanks for the suggestion, but this isn't the case. This setting is set to 
Hold moderated members messages. I toggled it off and on and tested it and it 
still did not work. 

-S



 From: Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net
To: mailman-users@python.org 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated Members Email Messages Disappearing
 

On 09/18/2014 06:26 AM, Shannon Doane wrote:



 
 The issue I'm having with the migrated email lists is that when a moderated 
 member sends an email to the list, it never makes it to the Tend to pending 
 moderator requests. The email just disappears into thin air as if it never 
 existed. If I switch the same members email account to non-moderated and they 
 send an email to the list the message goes through to everyone on the list 
 just as it should.


Check Privacy options... - Sender filters - member_moderation_action
for the affected lists. It is probably set to Discard rather than Hold.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated Members Email Messages Disappearing

2014-09-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/18/2014 09:20 AM, Shannon Doane wrote:
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, but this isn't the case. This setting is set
 to Hold moderated members messages. I toggled it off and on and tested
 it and it still did not work. 


Check Mailman's logs. Particularly 'error' and 'vette'. Is there
anything there from the time of these posts?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Regex for spam

2014-09-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/18/2014 07:21 AM, James Nightly wrote:
 There used to be a nice set of regex for some common spam on the old
 server that we had, but that crashed and I wasn't able to recover the
 settings/regex. Would somebody be willing to share their regex?
 
 If not, I wonder if this work if I add it to header_filter_rules:
 
 ambien (?i)[a@/]+\\?.?m+.?[b8]+.?[i:1!\|]+.?[e3€]+.?n+\b


Assuming you want to look for some varient of ambien in the message
Subject: header, You want something like

^Subject:.*[a@/]+\\?.?m+.?[b8]+.?[i:1!\|]+.?[e3€]+.?n+\b

at least assuming that's the regexp you want. You don't need (?i)
because these regexps are matched case insensitively.

Of course, you could just use

[a@/]+\\?.?m+.?[b8]+.?[i:1!\|]+.?[e3€]+.?n+\b

as the regexp if you want to look for it anywhere in the messages headers.

...
 src=3Dcid: src=3Dcid:
 src=cid: src=cid:

These look like you want to match something in an HTML body part.
header_filter_rules looks only at headers. Maybe content filtering is
something you want here or maybe matching on something in a
Content-Type: header


 X-Spam-Level:  X-Spam-Level:\s\*{8,30}

And this one should probably be

^X-Spam-Level:\s\*{8,30}

or just

^X-Spam-Level:\s\*{8,}

if you don't want to miss 30 stars


  SPAM  (?i)\*{1,6}spam\*{1,6}

maybe

\*{1,6}\s*spam\s*\*{1,6}

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Re: [Mailman-Users] MM stats question and a moderation issue

2014-09-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/18/2014 07:19 AM, James Nightly wrote:
 
 I created new lists on the new server, copy/pasted member emails and
 list settings (using config_list).


It would have been much easier and more complete to just have copied the
lists/LISTNAME/config.pck files


 There is only one set of lists, the
 other server is offline. I get (many) daily moderation requests for
 Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list. On the old
 server members of the list were able to email the list, non-member
 messages were sent to moderation.


Are the addresses of the senders exactly the same except possibly for
case as those of the list members?

What does

bin/list_members --invalid LISTNAME

report?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Regex for spam

2014-09-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
James Nightly wrote:
 There used to be a nice set of regex for some common spam on the old
 server that we had, but that crashed and I wasn't able to recover the
 settings/regex. Would somebody be willing to share their regex?


It is generally much more effective to use tools like Spamassassin at
the MTA level to stop spam from getting to Mailman in the first place.

It is also possible to invoke Spamassassin in the handler pipeline
within Mailman. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/266588.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated Members Email Messages Disappearing

2014-09-18 Thread Peter Shute
Is it possible that somehow you're using the moderator page for the wrong list, 
ie they're still awaiting moderation?

Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

 On 19 Sep 2014, at 2:07 am, Shannon Doane s_do...@yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 I recently had my email lists migrated from one server to another and am 
 working with Mailman version 2.1.18-1. Unfortunately I can't remember the 
 version of the old Mailman before the migration.
 
 The issue I'm having with the migrated email lists is that when a moderated 
 member sends an email to the list, it never makes it to the Tend to pending 
 moderator requests. The email just disappears into thin air as if it never 
 existed. If I switch the same members email account to non-moderated and they 
 send an email to the list the message goes through to everyone on the list 
 just as it should.
 
 For testing purposes I also set up a brand new email list on the new server 
 and it works exactly as it should without any issues. This problem seems to 
 be with the migrated lists only. 
 
 Any ideas as to why this could be occurring? 
 
 Thank you!!
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