Re: [Mailman-Users] [Suspected Spam] Images on iPhone's not loading
I think the issue is dmarc_moderation_action which we use to wrap the message or munge the headers. This works great for our Yahoo and AOL parents -- school newsletter is not spam filtered anymore. These messages are all HTML MIME-structured with multipart/mixed. Its a global issue, not a single iPhone/email/user -- its everyone with an iPhone, they can't read our newsletter. Images do not load. I tried using Gmail app and it seems to work! iPhone Mail app does not load images in the same message/account/phone/network. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing ports doesn't seem to work
Made the changes that Mark directed me to do and everything works the way it should. Thank you Mark, Much appreciated. On 10/29/2014 9:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 10/29/2014 10:32 AM, Brian Rudy wrote: Hello all, Due to changing ISP's I was forced to change my web port to something other than 80. On port 80, everything was working well. I moved all of my web interfaces to port 8000. I thought I followed the instructions correctly and did: bin/withlist -l -r fix_url listname You don't say, but before running fix_url did you add DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:8000/mailman/' to mm_cfg.py? It seems to work fine using http://host.example.com:8000/mailman/admin/listname but any link I click on doesn't add in the port number (:8000) so by default, it's trying port 80. Is there any way around that? If I manually copy the link and paste it in the url of the browser and manually add in the :8000 the link works fine. The problem then is when I try to submit something... It doesn't take. If you added the port to DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN as above before running fix_url, I can only guess that the issue has something to do with your browser getting confused over relative URLs. However, your comment above about copying/pasting the link and adding the :8000 makes me think you didn't add the port to DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN as above before running fix_url, although I suppose it could still be a browser/relative URL issue. View the source of the web page and look at the href= URLs. If they are of form http://host.example.com/mailman/admin/listname... without the :8000, then you need to be sure you have DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:8000/mailman/' in mm_cfg.py and run fix_url again. If they are of form ../admin/listname... (i.e.relative) it is your browser that's at fault, but this seems unlikely. If it is the browser not handling relative URLs properly, the only way to make Mailman generate absolute URLs is to edit Mailman/Utils.py and change the line def ScriptURL(target, web_page_url=None, absolute=False): to def ScriptURL(target, web_page_url=None, absolute=True): -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] config.pck files
Hello all, A list that is hosted here reported that the membership list and other settings had reverted to previous content. I took a look at the files and see this: -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 14526 Oct 30 08:00 config.pck -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 48950 Sep 29 13:15 config.pck.corrupt -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 14526 Oct 30 08:00 config.pck.last -rw-rw 1 apache mailman 49499 Sep 29 16:38 config.pck.safety It looks like the config.pck file was corrupt. Just for clarification, what are the other config.pck* files ? Since teh config.pck.safety looks like it is much larger in size, and I ran ./dumpdb to read it and it appears to be more current data, I am thinking that I can use it to overwrite the config.pck, which apparently was used because the file was corrupt. Can someone explain how these files work when the file becomes corrupt? Can I just copy the config.pck.safety to config.pck ? Many thanks -- Christopher Adams adam...@gmail.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] MM3/Delivery Problem
Hi, We're running a mailman 3.0.0b at ulists.org and so far it was working quite well. Since a few days, email delivery seems to be broken, but only for the posts, not bounces. When someone subscribes, he gets the welcome message. When someone posts, nothing is delivered. Same when posting from hyperkitty. Here's what happens when en email is sent to a list: On the MM3 side: Oct 30 15:34:36 2014 (1387) 20141030143436.1389.15...@mailman.ulists.org smtp to t...@ulists.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.0919508934021 seconds Oct 30 15:34:36 2014 (1387) 20141030143436.1389.15...@mailman.ulists.org post to t...@ulists.org from test-requ...@ulists.org, 1177 bytes and on the smtp side: Oct 30 15:34:36 mailman postfix/qmgr[7675]: CEF7719628BC: from=gliber...@unisson.co, size=718, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 30 15:34:36 mailman postfix/lmtp[2526]: CEF7719628BC: to=t...@ulists.org, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.14, delays=0.0 6/0.04/0/0.04, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) Oct 30 15:34:36 mailman postfix/qmgr[7675]: CEF7719628BC: removed Any idea of what I should check? Thanks a lot ! Guillaume -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] MM3/Delivery Problem
On 10/30/2014 07:48 AM, Guillaume Libersat wrote: We're running a mailman 3.0.0b at ulists.org and so far it was working quite well. Since a few days, email delivery seems to be broken, but only for the posts, not bounces. When someone subscribes, he gets the welcome message. When someone posts, nothing is delivered. Same when posting from hyperkitty. I'll note a few things below, but this list is mostly still oriented towards Mailman 2.1. The MM 3 folks pay much more attention to the mailman-develop...@python.org list and the #mailman irc channel on freenode.net. Here's what happens when en email is sent to a list: On the MM3 side: Oct 30 15:34:36 2014 (1387) 20141030143436.1389.15...@mailman.ulists.org smtp to t...@ulists.org for 1 recips, completed in 0.0919508934021 seconds Oct 30 15:34:36 2014 (1387) 20141030143436.1389.15...@mailman.ulists.org post to t...@ulists.org from test-requ...@ulists.org, 1177 bytes This says the post was sent to 1 recipient. If there's nothing in Mailman's smtp-failure log, it was accepted by the outgong MTA. and on the smtp side: Oct 30 15:34:36 mailman postfix/qmgr[7675]: CEF7719628BC: from=gliber...@unisson.co, size=718, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 30 15:34:36 mailman postfix/lmtp[2526]: CEF7719628BC: to=t...@ulists.org, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:8024, delay=0.14, delays=0.0 6/0.04/0/0.04, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok) Oct 30 15:34:36 mailman postfix/qmgr[7675]: CEF7719628BC: removed This is the incoming post being delivered to Mailman. We already know that succeeded. Any idea of what I should check? What is in the outgoing MTA logs for the post from test-boun...@ulists.org to the list member? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] config.pck files
On 10/30/2014 09:03 AM, Christopher Adams wrote: Hello all, A list that is hosted here reported that the membership list and other settings had reverted to previous content. I took a look at the files and see this: -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 14526 Oct 30 08:00 config.pck -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 48950 Sep 29 13:15 config.pck.corrupt -rw-rw 1 mailman mailman 14526 Oct 30 08:00 config.pck.last -rw-rw 1 apache mailman 49499 Sep 29 16:38 config.pck.safety Where there any config.db.* files? A problem is that between Mailman 2.0 and 2.1 this file changed from a marshal (config.db) to a pickle (config.pck). The upgrade process migrated the file, but if the config.db* files were not then manually removed, what can happen is later (perhaps years later) the config.pck files become somehow corrupted. Mailman tries the files in the order config.pck, config.pck.last, config.db and config.db.last, and the first one it can successfully load is used. This can be a config.db which rolls back the list to a possibly way earlier state. It looks like the config.pck file was corrupt. Just for clarification, what are the other config.pck* files ? Every time Mailman saves a list's state, it makes a file named config.pck.tmp.hostname.pid and saves the list's state there and then removes config.pck.last, renames config.pck to config.pck.last and finally renames config.pck.tmp.hostname.pid to config.pck. So there is always a current config.pck and the immediately prior config.pck.last. When Mailman tries to load a config.pck and has to fall back to a prior file, it logs that fact in the 'error' log which see, and it renames the current config.pck to config.pck.corrupt and also copies the recovered file to config.pck and to config.pck.safety. Since teh config.pck.safety looks like it is much larger in size, and I ran ./dumpdb to read it and it appears to be more current data, I am thinking that I can use it to overwrite the config.pck, which apparently was used because the file was corrupt. Can someone explain how these files work when the file becomes corrupt? See above, and see all the error log messages relating to this. It is unclear exactly what the issue was here. It apparently occurred on Sept 29. The error log from that time may help understand the sequence. Can I just copy the config.pck.safety to config.pck ? If you can successfully dump it with bin/dumpdb, you can copy it to config.pck and that should work. To be absolutely safe, you could run 'bin/withlist -l listname' to lock the list, then do the copy from another terminal and then type control-D to exit the withlist session and unlock the list. Otherwise you run the risk that Mailman or the web UI is updating the list just as you do the copy. Also, when you're done and the list works, remove or move aside the config.db* files if any and the .corrupt and .safety files. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Images on iPhone's not loading
On 10/30/2014 08:00 AM, James Nightly wrote: I think the issue is dmarc_moderation_action which we use to wrap the message or munge the headers. This works great for our Yahoo and AOL parents -- school newsletter is not spam filtered anymore. These messages are all HTML MIME-structured with multipart/mixed. Its a global issue, not a single iPhone/email/user -- its everyone with an iPhone, they can't read our newsletter. Images do not load. I tried using Gmail app and it seems to work! iPhone Mail app does not load images in the same message/account/phone/network. This issue is with the iPhone Mail app, and only Apple can fix it. I can't say whether complaining to them will help, but sending them a copy of the raw email and explaining what's deficient with their rendering may help. In the mean time note that the major reason I gave up on dmarc_moderation_action = Wrap Message on my lists and went to dmarc_moderation_action = Munge From is complaints from iPhone users. The iPhone Mail app, at least iOS 7, seems to do better with these, but my lists are plain text so my experience may not apply to you. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Images on iPhone's not loading
I tried disabling dmarc completely and apparently there is still an issue with HTML emails loading images on Apple iPhone Mail app. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Images on iPhone's not loading
Are these images attachments of the emails, or are they just linked into the html from elsewhere? If the latter, have you looked at the html to see if there are errors in it? Peter Shute Sent from my iPad On 31 Oct 2014, at 8:35 am, James Nightly exim4deb...@gmail.com wrote: I tried disabling dmarc completely and apparently there is still an issue with HTML emails loading images on Apple iPhone Mail app. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/pshute%40nuw.org.au -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
