[Mailman-Users] Disabling the digest feature
I have a low volume mailing list and would like to remove the digest option, so what I've done is (via the Mailman administrative interface): - in Membership management-Membership list: disabled Digest from those members who had this enabled - in Digest option: set Edit_digest to NO to disable the digest feature entirely - posted a message to the list to tell about the change and that current digest-receiving members have had their subscriptions changed to non-digest. This is all I have to do, right? But for testing purposes I subscribed to the list with a new address and noticed that in my user's administration page (options section) there's a choice for set digest mode for on/off. How can I remove this and any other trace of the digest option which I might have missed? Thanks. M. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] problem with accented characters, converting HTML to plain text
Hello, When a e-mail in text/html content-type is converted in to plain text, the accented characters are not treated correctly. in configuration file /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py the variable HTML_TO_PLAIN_TEXT_COMMAND = '/usr/bin/lynx -dump %(filename)s' and this variable is not overwritten in /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py /usr/bin/lynx -dump runs correctly. Have you an idea why the accented characters cause problem? Thanks Dominique -- +o+ | P-mail:| E-mail:| | TELECOM ParisTech - Dep. TSI | dominique.asselin...@telecom-paristech.fr | | Dominique Asselineau | Phone: (33/0) 1 45 81 78 91| | 46, rue Barrault | Fax: (33/0) 1 45 81 37 94| | 75634 PARIS Cedex 13 || | France || +o+ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] some mailman questions
Hi can any one help with the following 1 i have set all my mailing lists to private how do i get the list to show up in mailman only if i go to the page it ses no public lists advertised witch is what i want only had non members trying to send messages i have made a page in wordpress with all our lists on 2. if i update my linode server will it break my mailman only i was told it would the version i am useing is 2.1.16rc2 witch i was also told is the most accessible for the blind 3 is there a way of changing all my passwords with out doing them one by one mark. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Disabling the digest feature
On 7/20/15 3:18 AM, MLA wrote: I have a low volume mailing list and would like to remove the digest option, so what I've done is (via the Mailman administrative interface): - in Membership management-Membership list: disabled Digest from those members who had this enabled - in Digest option: set Edit_digest to NO to disable the digest feature entirely Do you mean digestable as in Can list members choose to receive list traffic bunched in digests? (Edit digestable)? - posted a message to the list to tell about the change and that current digest-receiving members have had their subscriptions changed to non-digest. This is all I have to do, right? Assuming you meant 'digestable', yes. But for testing purposes I subscribed to the list with a new address and noticed that in my user's administration page (options section) there's a choice for set digest mode for on/off. How can I remove this and any other trace of the digest option which I might have missed? The setting is there, but it can't be set to Yes if digestable is No. If you have sufficient access to the server, you can copy /path/to/templates/en/options.html to /path/to/lists/LISTNAME/en/options.html and remove the part trTD BGCOLOR=#cc strongSet Digest Mode/strongp If you turn digest mode on, you'll get posts bundled together (usually one per day but possibly more on busy lists), instead of singly when they're sent. If digest mode is changed from on to off, you may receive one last digest. /tdtd bgcolor=#cc MM-Undigest-Radio-ButtonOffbr MM-Digest-Radio-ButtonOn /td/tr and maybe the following part trTD BGCOLOR=#cc strongGet MIME or Plain Text Digests?/strongp Your mail reader may or may not support MIME digests. In general MIME digests are preferred, but if you have a problem reading them, select plain text digests. /tdtd bgcolor=#cc MM-Mime-Digests-ButtonMIMEbr MM-Plain-Digests-ButtonPlain Textp mm-global-mime-buttoniSet globally/i /td/tr from the /path/to/lists/LISTNAME/en/options.html template (or place 'comment' tags around them). See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/4030605 for more on template editing. It is arguably a bug to display these settings on the options page if the list is not digestable and the user's digest setting is not Yes. If you file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+filebug, I'll consider fixing it. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] some mailman questions
Mark T wrote: Hi can any one help with the following 1 i have set all my mailing lists to private how do i get the list to show up in mailman only if i go to the page it ses no public lists advertised witch is what i want only had non members trying to send messages i have made a page in wordpress with all our lists on I am not sure what you are trying to do here, if you turn off the display of lists on the /listinfo page, people can still send emails to the list if they know about them from other means (I.e, Google searches, your Wordpress site etc). 2. if i update my linode server will it break my mailman only i was told it would the version i am useing is 2.1.16rc2 witch i was also told is the most accessible for the blind For what it's worth I run a load of lists on 2.1.20 which is the latest stable release and most if not all the users are blind and using it fine with assistive technology. In terms of your version, you are using a pre-release/beta version, so depending on how you installed that would give you more ideas about whether updating the VM OS would break things. What OS is the VM running now, is is being patched etc? 3 is there a way of changing all my passwords with out doing them one by one Do you mean your list admin passwords or something else? Thanks. Andrew. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] some mailman questions
On 7/20/15 7:19 AM, Mark T wrote: Hi can any one help with the following 1 i have set all my mailing lists to private how do i get the list to show up in mailman only if i go to the page ... If you mean you want lists that are not 'advertised' to show on the admin and listinfo overview pages only if you and no one else goes to the page, that would require modifications to the source code. You could possibly implement your own CGI or PHP page that would run Mailman's bin/list_lists command and display the results. 2. if i update my linode server will it break my mailman only i was told it would the version i am useing is 2.1.16rc2 witch i was also told is the most accessible for the blind There should be no difference in accessibility between Mailman 2.1.16rc2 and later versions. I don't know why a server upgrade would break Mailman. I suppose there could be issues resulting from an upgrade, but without knowing more detail about both the current and upgraded configurations, I have no idea what they might be. 3 is there a way of changing all my passwords with out doing them one by one If you mean list member passwords, a list member can change her password globally from her options page for any list of which she is a member. If you mean list admin passwords, you can use Mailman's bin/change_pw tool to change the admin password for all or selected lists. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with accented characters, converting HTML to plain text
On 7/19/15 1:13 PM, Dominique Asselineau wrote: Hello, When a e-mail in text/html content-type is converted in to plain text, the accented characters are not treated correctly. There are potential issues with this. Mailman gets the content of the text/html part and calls HTML_TO_PLAINTEXT_COMMAND (lynx -dump in the default case) to convert the HTML to a plain text rendering and replaces the content of the part with that and changes the Content-Type: to text/plain while maintaining any charset= parameter. Lynx normally does not recode any characters, so the output of lynx -dump should be in the same charset is the input and it should be OK. Problems arise if the input has characters represented as HTML entities such as aacute; or egrave;. In this case, lynx outputs the characters encoded in a charset which may not match the messages encoding. In order to say more, I would need to see a raw message as sent to the list with all headers intact and the resultant raw message from the list with all headers intact. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] some mailman questions
At 09:55 AM 7/20/2015, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 7/20/15 7:19 AM, Mark T wrote: Hi can any one help with the following 2. if i update my linode server will it break my mailman only i was told it would the version i am useing is 2.1.16rc2 witch i was also told is the most accessible for the blind I run Mailman through cPanel, but on Linode, and upgrading my OS has never caused any problems. Also, I am a blind user, and there will be no accessibility problems by moving to 2.1.20. Dave There should be no difference in accessibility between Mailman 2.1.16rc2 and later versions. I don't know why a server upgrade would break Mailman. I suppose there could be issues resulting from an upgrade, but without knowing more detail about both the current and upgraded configurations, I have no idea what they might be. David Andrews and long white cane Harry. E-Mail: dandr...@visi.com or david.andr...@nfbnet.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Disabling the digest feature
On 7/20/15 8:56 AM, MLA wrote: On 20/07/2015 16:04, Mark Sapiro wrote: If you have sufficient access to the server, you can copy /path/to/templates/en/options.html to /path/to/lists/LISTNAME/en/options.html and remove the part I'm not sure which rights I have to the server but I was able to edit it from the web user administration interface! In the Edit the public HTML pages and text files I edited the User specific options page. Works great now. Right. I forgot that this was one of the templates that can be edited from the admin web UI. That's the easiest way to do it. It is arguably a bug to display these settings on the options page if the list is not digestable and the user's digest setting is not Yes. If you file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+filebug, I'll consider fixing it. Done! Thanks. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disabling the digest feature
On 20/07/2015 16:04, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 7/20/15 3:18 AM, MLA wrote: I have a low volume mailing list and would like to remove the digest option, so what I've done is (via the Mailman administrative interface): - in Membership management-Membership list: disabled Digest from those members who had this enabled - in Digest option: set Edit_digest to NO to disable the digest feature entirely Do you mean digestable as in Can list members choose to receive list traffic bunched in digests? (Edit digestable)? Sorry, yes. I meant Edit_digestable. But for testing purposes I subscribed to the list with a new address and noticed that in my user's administration page (options section) there's a choice for set digest mode for on/off. How can I remove this and any other trace of the digest option which I might have missed? The setting is there, but it can't be set to Yes if digestable is No. If you have sufficient access to the server, you can copy /path/to/templates/en/options.html to /path/to/lists/LISTNAME/en/options.html and remove the part I'm not sure which rights I have to the server but I was able to edit it from the web user administration interface! In the Edit the public HTML pages and text files I edited the User specific options page. Works great now. It is arguably a bug to display these settings on the options page if the list is not digestable and the user's digest setting is not Yes. If you file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+filebug, I'll consider fixing it. Done! M. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Phantom or unknown address for mailing lists
On 7/20/15 4:13 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: Finally got all my mail stuff straight. However, a strange and untraceable thing has happened. It now seems all my mailing lists' addresses begin with mail. (list-n...@mail.my-domain.com). There's nothing in main.cf to explain this. My MX record is called mail, but should that affect Mailman? Where exactly do you see this? Is it in the list's admin General Options - host_name and the list posting address on the list's listinfo page? If so, you can change the host_name and verify things like DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and add_virtualhost email hosts in mm_cfg.py and maybe run fix_url. See http://wiki.list.org/x/4030616. If headers of email messages are being rewritten, see http://wiki.list.org/x/4030649. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
