Re: [Mailman-Users] View a user's subscription options

2015-12-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/01/2015 08:51 AM, Gretchen R Beck wrote:
> Is there a command line script that can be used to view an individual user's 
> subscription options for a specific list?


I'm not aware of one, but it is fairly simple to do. I'm willing to add
it to the collection at , but what do
you want in the way of output. Presumably the input would be something like

get_user_options listname u...@example.com

but what kind of output are you looking for? What fields and in what format?

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[Mailman-Users] View a user's subscription options

2015-12-01 Thread Gretchen R Beck
Is there a command line script that can be used to view an individual user's 
subscription options for a specific list?

Gretchen Beck
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Re: [Mailman-Users] strange interaction between mailman and google docs

2015-12-01 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 09:07:01AM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 11/30/2015 02:48 PM, Ottoson Webmaster wrote:
> > The problem is only *from google docs to non-google email in mailman list*
> 
> It is difficult to even guess what might be happening without more
> information. Someone needs to look at logs on the Mailman server to see
> what is happening to the message to non-gmail recipients. I'm certain
> Mailman is sending it so what is the outgoing MTA doing with it. Is it
> being delivered to the MX servers for the non-gmail recipients?

If your Google (docs) account is one that is a member of one of the
plans that has access to the Google email log search, there might be
some light in there, too
(https://support.google.com/a/answer/2604578?hl=en).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] strange interaction between mailman and google docs

2015-12-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/30/2015 02:48 PM, Ottoson Webmaster wrote:
> 
> Within google docs I use the feature "Email as attachment" to send to the
> list.
> The mailman list has about 1000 addresses some of which are gmail addresses
> and some are not (yahoo, hotmail, etc.)
> 
> Well, the email from google docs is *only* received by the gmail addresses
> in the mailing list but *not* by any of the other addresses.


Is the mailman list on a server you have access to? If so, what is in
the MTA logs on that server for one of these messages? What is in
Mailman's bounce log?


> If I send the email with the attachment from google docs to a *single*
> non-google email, then I see no problems.
> If I send the email with the attachment from gmail  (outside of google
> docs) to the entire list I see no problems.
> 
> The problem is only *from google docs to non-google email in mailman list*


It is difficult to even guess what might be happening without more
information. Someone needs to look at logs on the Mailman server to see
what is happening to the message to non-gmail recipients. I'm certain
Mailman is sending it so what is the outgoing MTA doing with it. Is it
being delivered to the MX servers for the non-gmail recipients?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List messages showing as attachments

2015-12-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/30/2015 02:21 PM, Lindsay Graham wrote:
> 
> The TSS list is new and, as a member of TSS (The Surname Society), I was
> subscribed automatically to Digest mode, but very soon switched to
> Individual mode.  All email messages that come from the list (both
> Digest and Individual) are blank except for the list footer and the real
> message is an attachment to that blank message.  I always have to open
> that attachment to read the message but to reply, I have to reply to the
> blank message.  It's my impression that very few other TSS list
> subscribers receive their messages in this way, and I've not so far been
> able to get any explanation form the TSS webmaster.


This is discussed in the FAQ article at
. That article is directed more at the
list admin than at the list members, but it explains what is happening.

As a list member recipient, your choices are:

1) Use an MUA (mail reader) that does a better job of rendering this
multipart message format.

2) Urge all the other list members to post plain text only.

3) Convince the list admins to apply one of the configuration options
discussed in the FAQ.

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[Mailman-Users] strange interaction between mailman and google docs

2015-12-01 Thread Ottoson Webmaster
I am seeing a strange problem and I am wondering if someone has any idea.
I am using google docs to create a newsletter which I then send to a
mailman mailing list.

Within google docs I use the feature "Email as attachment" to send to the
list.
The mailman list has about 1000 addresses some of which are gmail addresses
and some are not (yahoo, hotmail, etc.)

Well, the email from google docs is *only* received by the gmail addresses
in the mailing list but *not* by any of the other addresses.

If I send the email with the attachment from google docs to a *single*
non-google email, then I see no problems.
If I send the email with the attachment from gmail  (outside of google
docs) to the entire list I see no problems.

The problem is only *from google docs to non-google email in mailman list*

Ideas?

Thank you!
Antonella
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[Mailman-Users] List messages showing as attachments

2015-12-01 Thread Lindsay Graham
I hope this is the right place to ask this question -- if not, please 
direct me to the right place.


I'm a subscriber to 2 Mailman lists, Ger-Poland-Volhynia list at 
sggee.org and TSS list at surname-society.org.  I joined the former 
(with Individual messages) several years ago and it has always worked as 
expected.


The TSS list is new and, as a member of TSS (The Surname Society), I was 
subscribed automatically to Digest mode, but very soon switched to 
Individual mode.  All email messages that come from the list (both 
Digest and Individual) are blank except for the list footer and the real 
message is an attachment to that blank message.  I always have to open 
that attachment to read the message but to reply, I have to reply to the 
blank message.  It's my impression that very few other TSS list 
subscribers receive their messages in this way, and I've not so far been 
able to get any explanation form the TSS webmaster.


I've checked the Mailman subscription options for both lists and the 
settings appear to be identical.  My email client is Thunderbird 31.7 
(not quite the latest version) running under Windows 8.1 64-bit.  The 
problem with the TSS list exists whether I view the email in Thunderbird 
or my ISP's webmail.


If anybody has any clues why the TSS messages should appear in this way, 
I'd be very grateful for your help/advice.


Lindsay Graham
Canberra, Australia


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