Re: [Mailman-Users] changing url for administration

2017-11-13 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 11/13/2017 09:34 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> 
> right that is what I am saying.  The email domain needs to be
> listn...@domain.org and the url lists.domain2.org


So, if you have

add_virtualhost('lists.domain2.org', 'domain.org') in mm_cfg.py, just run

bin/withlist -l -r fix_url listname --urlhost=lists.domain2.org


> What it says in the config file doesn't match the docs for fix_url


I don't understand what you are saying. What doesn't match?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] changing url for administration

2017-11-13 Thread Ruben Safir 
On 11/14/2017 12:13 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 11/13/2017 08:55 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>> On 11/13/2017 11:27 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2017 08:02 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
 I need to change the url for accepting messages that are deferred within
 and need to be handled by the lists admin page.  The submit button is
 pointed to a dead URL and I need to change it to list.myurl.com
> 
> 
> You need to change the web_page_url attribute of the list. The proper
> way to do that is to have the correct add_virtualhost entries in
> mm_cfg.py and then run fix_url for the list with a command something like
> 
> bin/withlist -l -r fix_url LISTNAME --urlhost=list.myurl.com
> 
> (bin/ in the above is Mailman's bin/ directory) If you don't have a
> proper add_virtualhost('list.myurl.com', ...) in mm_cfg.py, this may
> also change the list's host_name attribute, but you can change that back
> via the web admin UI.
> 
> 
>>> See this FAQ .
>>>
>>
>>
>> I saw that page.  I don't see how it helps.  It doesn't tell me how the
>> form action is populated.
> 
> 
> Perhaps I should have mentioned  as well.
> 

right that is what I am saying.  The email domain needs to be
listn...@domain.org and the url lists.domain2.org


What it says in the config file doesn't match the docs for fix_url

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Re: [Mailman-Users] changing url for administration

2017-11-13 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 11/13/2017 08:55 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 11/13/2017 11:27 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> On 11/13/2017 08:02 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>> I need to change the url for accepting messages that are deferred within
>>> and need to be handled by the lists admin page.  The submit button is
>>> pointed to a dead URL and I need to change it to list.myurl.com


You need to change the web_page_url attribute of the list. The proper
way to do that is to have the correct add_virtualhost entries in
mm_cfg.py and then run fix_url for the list with a command something like

bin/withlist -l -r fix_url LISTNAME --urlhost=list.myurl.com

(bin/ in the above is Mailman's bin/ directory) If you don't have a
proper add_virtualhost('list.myurl.com', ...) in mm_cfg.py, this may
also change the list's host_name attribute, but you can change that back
via the web admin UI.


>> See this FAQ .
>>
> 
> 
> I saw that page.  I don't see how it helps.  It doesn't tell me how the
> form action is populated.


Perhaps I should have mentioned  as well.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] changing url for administration

2017-11-13 Thread Ruben Safir 
On 11/13/2017 11:27 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 11/13/2017 08:02 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>> I need to change the url for accepting messages that are deferred within
>> and need to be handled by the lists admin page.  The submit button is
>> pointed to a dead URL and I need to change it to list.myurl.com
> 
> 
> See this FAQ .
> 


I saw that page.  I don't see how it helps.  It doesn't tell me how the
form action is populated.  I have two lists.  One was working on
lists.url.com and the other was working on www.url2.org, both virtual
domains on apache

www.url2.org has been moved and I need to change that submit button,
which seems to be nearly uniquely populated, to
lists.url.com(/mailman/admindb/listname)

For that list that was originally on www.url2.org, I can access
everything but the form action/submit button on
http://lists.url.com/mailman/admindb/listname

http://www.url.org/mailman/admindb/listname; method="POST">

Discard all messages marked
Defer

and it needs to change only for listname and not otherlistname
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[Mailman-Users] changing url for administration

2017-11-13 Thread Ruben Safir 
I need to change the url for accepting messages that are deferred within
and need to be handled by the lists admin page.  The submit button is
pointed to a dead URL and I need to change it to list.myurl.com


Ruben

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-13 Thread Carl Zwanzig 

On 11/13/2017 4:03 PM, eminmn wrote:
Anyway, I think there are a few million people around the world who are 
aware of his contribution to freedom of computation


And his anti-contributions?

Anyway, since this is rather far removed from mailman v2, can we give it a rest.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-13 Thread Dimitri Maziuk 
On 11/13/2017 06:03 PM, eminmn wrote:
> Steve:
> 
> On 11/12/2017 23:37, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>> Dimitri Maziuk writes:
>>
>>   > Heh. You made me look. No, contrary to the popular belief LiGNUx
>> did not
>>   > invent the world,
>>
>> There is no such thing as LiGNUx.  Stallman may have his fingers in a
>> lot of software (to my everlasting annoyance; he wrote, and at last
>> check circa 2013 continues to write, some of the most unmaintainable
>> and uncomposable crap), but he didn't invent the world either (he does
>> seem to have independently invented #AlternativeFacts, though).
> 
> Everybody knows that the correct term is Glunix; Lignux is just one of
> Glunix's lugnuts.

Actually, I was commenting on Stephen's "pretty sure Mailman's was
first" -- some other mail man's might have been, but this GNU Mailman's
wasn't.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-13 Thread eminmn 

Steve:

On 11/12/2017 23:37, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

Dimitri Maziuk writes:

  > Heh. You made me look. No, contrary to the popular belief LiGNUx did not
  > invent the world,

There is no such thing as LiGNUx.  Stallman may have his fingers in a
lot of software (to my everlasting annoyance; he wrote, and at last
check circa 2013 continues to write, some of the most unmaintainable
and uncomposable crap), but he didn't invent the world either (he does
seem to have independently invented #AlternativeFacts, though).


Everybody knows that the correct term is Glunix; Lignux is just one of 
Glunix's lugnuts. In re RMS's coding and cognitive style, it's possible 
that you just don't see the big picture. * Anyway, I think there are a 
few million people around the world who are aware of his contribution to 
freedom of computation. I've heard of Japan, but not Professor Turnbull 
nor even Tsukuba. Amoris umbra invidia.


Btw, I find 'incompossible' and 'uncompilable' but not your neologism.

* If his coding is no longer up to snuff maye it's because he's devoting 
his attention to even more important matters.


ed




  > nor did mailman invent "arch".

Independent invention, apparently. :-)

  > Sunos had it since forever, but it appears nobody else did. Somehow
  > it made its way into linux

If it is in POSIX, as Phil implies, that would explain it.  By the
time it made it into Linux distros, most of them were pretty serious
about POSIX compatibility.

  > and apparently everyone's been trying to get rid of it ever
  > since. Including sunos.

Do you have a citation for this history?  I like to collect

  > 

ha ha



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Funding Campaign for GNU Mailman

2017-11-13 Thread Richard Shetron 
I'm on the MM3 mailing list.  Based on what I've been seeing without 
spending a lot of time researching things, MM# does not seem stable.  It 
seems somewhere in the alpha/beta range, but closer to alpha status. 
The problem does not seem to be with the MM3 code so much as it depends 
on a lot of other packages and they seem to be in somewhat of a state of 
flux causing MM3 to be temperamental and not always work right due to 
the changes in these packages.


It feels too much like the bleeding edge of technology to me at this time.

On 11/9/2017 6:51 PM, Abhilash Raj wrote:
[snip]
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

2017-11-13 Thread Richard Shetron 

https://xkcd.com/927/

On 11/11/2017 2:04 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:

On 2017-11-11 12:22, Phil Stracchino wrote:


Heh, I just looked at that myself.  How did such a useless tool ever
become standard?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Funding Campaign for GNU Mailman

2017-11-13 Thread Hal via Mailman-Users 

On 13/11/17 06:35, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

Hal via Mailman-Users writes:

  > [The FSF donation page for GNU Mailman is] apparently working now.
  > At least for me and using Paypal.

Do you mean you used it with a screen reader for the visually
impaired?  If so, what screen reader were you using?


I'm sorry, I replied too quickly to your posting, missing the part about 
the screen reader.

I use a normal screen, so please disregard my reply.


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