[Mailman-Users] Fw: Problem with mailman-loop address

2019-06-08 Thread ratatouille 



Beginn der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:

Datum: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 22:29:58 +0200
Von: ratatouille 
An: Mark Sapiro 
Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman-loop address


Hello!

Mark Sapiro  schrieb am 08.06.19 um 13:06:49 Uhr:

> On 6/8/19 9:58 AM, ratatouille wrote:  
> > Hello!
> > 
> > Mark Sapiro  schrieb am 08.06.19 um 08:13:24 Uhr:
> > 
> >> On 6/8/19 3:29 AM, ratatouille wrote:
> >>>
> >>> In /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases there is no alias like mailman-loop.
> >>>
> >>> What's wrong here and how do I fix this?  
> >>
> >>
> >> There should be. If Mailman is generating this file, it should contain
> >>
> >> # The ultimate loop stopper address
> >> mailman-loop: /var/lib/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox
> >>
> >> Try running Mailman's 
> > 
> > I did this already, it is not there.
> > 
> >  # STANZA START: mailman
> > # CREATED: Sat Jun  8 11:43:23 2019
> > mailman: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
> > mailman-admin:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
> > mailman-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
> > mailman-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
> > mailman-join:"|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
> > mailman-leave:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
> > mailman-owner:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
> > mailman-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
> > mailman-subscribe:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman"
> > mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman"
> > # STANZA END: mailman
> 
> It's not in that stanza. The beginning of the aliases file, even in
> 2.1.17 should be
>   
> > # This file is generated by Mailman, and is kept in sync with the
> > # binary hash file aliases.db.  YOU SHOULD NOT MANUALLY EDIT THIS FILE
> > # unless you know what you're doing, and can keep the two files properly
> > # in sync.  If you screw it up, you're on your own.
> > 
> > # The ultimate loop stopper address
> > mailman-loop: /var/lib/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox
> 
> 
> If this is not the case, what Mailman package is this?  

Wow, now I see it. I was blind. Version 2.1.17. But I don't know now if it was 
there
before I did a  bin/genaliases today. Would this explain why I got the bounce 
within
postfix?

Ok, I just looked in a backup and there is was not there. Don't know why. Now
it's there. I'll see what happens.

Thank you!

  Andreas
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[Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman-loop address

2019-06-08 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 6/8/19 9:58 AM, ratatouille wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Mark Sapiro  schrieb am 08.06.19 um 08:13:24 Uhr:
> 
>> On 6/8/19 3:29 AM, ratatouille wrote:
>>>
>>> In /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases there is no alias like mailman-loop.
>>>
>>> What's wrong here and how do I fix this?  
>>
>>
>> There should be. If Mailman is generating this file, it should contain
>>
>> # The ultimate loop stopper address
>> mailman-loop: /var/lib/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox
>>
>> Try running Mailman's bin/genaliases
> 
> I did this already, it is not there.
> 
>  # STANZA START: mailman
> # CREATED: Sat Jun  8 11:43:23 2019
> mailman: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
> mailman-admin:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
> mailman-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
> mailman-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
> mailman-join:"|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
> mailman-leave:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
> mailman-owner:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
> mailman-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
> mailman-subscribe:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman"
> mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman"
> # STANZA END: mailman

It's not in that stanza. The beginning of the aliases file, even in
2.1.17 should be

> # This file is generated by Mailman, and is kept in sync with the
> # binary hash file aliases.db.  YOU SHOULD NOT MANUALLY EDIT THIS FILE
> # unless you know what you're doing, and can keep the two files properly
> # in sync.  If you screw it up, you're on your own.
> 
> # The ultimate loop stopper address
> mailman-loop: /var/lib/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox


If this is not the case, what Mailman package is this?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman-loop address

2019-06-08 Thread ratatouille 
Hello!

Mark Sapiro  schrieb am 08.06.19 um 08:13:24 Uhr:

> On 6/8/19 3:29 AM, ratatouille wrote:
> > 
> > In /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases there is no alias like mailman-loop.
> > 
> > What's wrong here and how do I fix this?  
> 
> 
> There should be. If Mailman is generating this file, it should contain
> 
> # The ultimate loop stopper address
> mailman-loop: /var/lib/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox
> 
> Try running Mailman's bin/genaliases

I did this already, it is not there.

 # STANZA START: mailman
# CREATED: Sat Jun  8 11:43:23 2019
mailman: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"
mailman-admin:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman"
mailman-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman"
mailman-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman"
mailman-join:"|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman"
mailman-leave:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman"
mailman-owner:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman"
mailman-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman"
mailman-subscribe:   "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman"
mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman"
# STANZA END: mailman

  Andreas
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman-loop address

2019-06-08 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 6/8/19 3:29 AM, ratatouille wrote:
> 
> In /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases there is no alias like mailman-loop.
> 
> What's wrong here and how do I fix this?


There should be. If Mailman is generating this file, it should contain

# The ultimate loop stopper address
mailman-loop: /var/lib/mailman/data/owner-bounces.mbox

Try running Mailman's bin/genaliases

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[Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman-loop address

2019-06-08 Thread ratatouille 
Hello!

Using mailman 2.1.17

Today I found this in the logfile:

Jun  1 05:16:16 bitmachine1 postfix/qmgr[4215]: 3070F181214: 
from=, size=6027, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jun  1 05:16:16 bitmachine1 postfix/smtpd[3659]: proxy-accept: END-OF-MESSAGE: 
250 2.0.0 from MTA(smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 
3070F181214; from= to= 
proto=ESMTP helo=
Jun  1 05:16:16 bitmachine1 postfix/lmtp[3687]: 599AE1811EF: 
to=, 
relay=mail.bitcorner.de[private/dovecot-lmtp], delay=0.05, 
delays=0.02/0/0.03/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (host 
mail.bitcorner.de[private/dovecot-lmtp] said: 550 5.1.1 
 User doesn't exist: 
mailman-l...@listen.bitcorner.de (in reply to RCPT TO command)

In /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases there is no alias like mailman-loop.

What's wrong here and how do I fix this?

Kind regards

  Andreas
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Message not removeable

2019-06-08 Thread Paul van der Vlis 
Op 05-06-19 om 17:37 schreef Mark Sapiro:
> On 6/4/19 1:41 PM, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>> Op 04-06-19 om 22:05 schreef Mark Sapiro:
>>> On 6/4/19 3:30 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

 In one of the mailinglists came a message what's to big. I've changed
 max_message_size but it was not possible to send the message. Now I want
 to remove the message, but that's also not possible, it still is there
 and the list-owner gets messages about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> How did you try to accept the message, and what happened?
>>
>> Using the webinterface. I did not see any error, but the message was not
>> send.
>>
>>> How are you trying to remove the message, and what happens?
>>
>> Using the webinterface. I did not see an error, but the message was not
>> removed.
>>
>>> Is there anything relevant in Mailman's error log?
>>
>> I did not see anything relevant.
>> Maybe it's possible to make it more verbose.
> 
> 
> There's not really a way to increase logging.
> 
> Does this issue occur anytime there is a moderator request or only for
> this one message? If it is only for this one, I don't know why that
> would happen silently, but if it is always, see
> .

It's not happen always. Maybe always when the message is to big.

But thanks for the link. I did change the site from http to https, and I
even changed everything from 32-bits to 64-bits a while ago.

With regards,
Paul




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