Re: [Mailman-Users] Disappearing message
Mark Sapiro wrote:
Anne Ramey wrote:
snip
Way 2 is to modify scripts/post to log something. At the end of the
main() function following:
inq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.INQUEUE_DIR)
inq.enqueue(sys.stdin.read(),
listname=listname,
tolist=1, _plaintext=1)
add
print sys.stderr, _('post to %(listname)s received and queued')
This will write the 'post to %(listname)s received and queued' message
with the listname filled in to both the error and post logs for every
post. This again will tell you if the post got to the post script.
snip
OK, I added this code, but I get this:
Oct 26 16:18:41 2007 post(17996): post to %(listname)s received and queued
in the error log (it doesn't replace the listname with the variable) and
nothing in the post log. Did I do something wrong?
Nothing in the post log is correct. I forgot what the
LogStdErr(error, post) call in the script does. I thought the
second argument was a second log, but it's the identifying label.
The non-replacement of %(listname)s with the name is puzzling. The i18n
_() function should do this replacement. I copied the print directly
from below and it worked for me. However, you could do the
interpolation directly as in
print sys.stderr, 'post to %s received and queued' % listname
and that should work.
I tried this and he re-sent the problem child message this morning. I
got the message in the error log that it was received and queued for
both list1 and list2, but it only went out to list2. There is only the
one entry in the post log (for list 2), and the message never was
received by the list1 membership. He later resent (forwarded) the
message to only list1 and it went through fine. This tells me that
Mailman is correctly receiving the message from exim, queuing it up,
then it vanishes and never gets posted. Here was the problem:I was
Bcc'd on the message and these are what the headers looked like (I've
taken out the received headers)
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (added by [EMAIL PROTECTED])
From: sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'person1' person1
@ncmail.net,
'person2' person2
@ncmail.net,
'List2' List2
@lists.ncmail.net
Subject: [ITS.CAB] Agenda Change Advisory Board - Oct 30,2007 3:30pm - CCS
Conference room
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:39:34 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary==_NextPart_000_006F_01C81A17.FEDB8B30
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353
X-SeenV-Signature: 380cab9dbfff031d1ef4ebe96869db18
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1
List-Unsubscribe:
http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/listinfo/List1,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Subscribe: http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/listinfo/List1,mailto:[EMAIL
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He was copying a message from before that he had received, editting it
and sending it to the list, so it already had the x-been-there headers.
I'd never run into this before, so I thank Mark very much for
recommending the BCC.
Thanks for all the help,
Anne
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disappearing message
snip
Way 2 is to modify scripts/post to log something. At the end of the
main() function following:
inq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.INQUEUE_DIR)
inq.enqueue(sys.stdin.read(),
listname=listname,
tolist=1, _plaintext=1)
add
print sys.stderr, _('post to %(listname)s received and queued')
This will write the 'post to %(listname)s received and queued' message
with the listname filled in to both the error and post logs for every
post. This again will tell you if the post got to the post script.
snip
OK, I added this code, but I get this:
Oct 26 16:18:41 2007 post(17996): post to %(listname)s received and queued
in the error log (it doesn't replace the listname with the variable) and
nothing in the post log. Did I do something wrong?
def main():
# TBD: If you've configured your list or aliases so poorly as to get
# either of these first two errors, there's little that can be done to
# save your messages. They will be lost. Minimal testing of new lists
# should avoid either of these problems.
try:
listname = sys.argv[1]
except IndexError:
print sys.stderr, _('post script got no listname.')
sys.exit(1)
# Make sure the list exists
if not Utils.list_exists(listname):
print sys.stderr, _('post script, list not found: %(listname)s')
sys.exit(1)
# Immediately queue the message for the incoming qrunner to
process. The
# advantage to this approach is that messages should never get lost --
# some MTAs have a hard limit to the time a filter prog can run.
Postfix
# is a good example; if the limit is hit, the proc is SIGKILL'd
giving us
# no chance to save the message.
inq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.INQUEUE_DIR)
inq.enqueue(sys.stdin.read(),
listname=listname,
tolist=1, _plaintext=1)
print sys.stderr, _('post to %(listname)s received and queued')
Anne
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disappearing message
Mark Sapiro wrote:
Anne Ramey wrote:
Have a new and different one. One of my users that has two lists, let's
call them list1 and list2. If he sends a message to list1 and cc's
list2, list1 never receives the message. If he sends the same message
only to list1, it goes through fine. According to my exim logs, it is
delivering both messages to list1:
The exim log certainly says the the first post was delivered to both
lists, but ...
The first message is successfully posted to list2, the second message is
successfully posted to list1. The first message has absolutely no MM
longs relative to list1. Nothing in the vette, smtp, post, error,
bounce, etc. Nothing at all related to message one for List1. This is
a weekly message and this has happened for the last 4+ weeks. Before
that it appears to have worked fine. I haven't made any system changes
in that time. What could cause something like this. Is is possible a
list setting could do this? I checked the sender filters on both lists
but saw nothing that looked wrong.
I can't offhand think of any way the a post can evaporate from Mailman
without a trace.
There are two ways to verify that the post actually reached Mailman.
Way 1 is somewhat disruptive. Stop Mailman, send the post to list1 with
cc to list2, examine the files in Mailman's qfiles/in queue with
bin/dumpdb (bin/show_qfiles won't show the metadata which says which
list the post is for) to see if the post is there twice, once for each
list, then start Mailman. If the post is in the in queue for list1
and then evaporates, it is a Mailman problem, but I don't know what
the problem might be. If the post doesn't get to the in queue then it
could be an exim problem or possibly a problem with the post script.
Way 2 is to modify scripts/post to log something. At the end of the
main() function following:
inq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.INQUEUE_DIR)
inq.enqueue(sys.stdin.read(),
listname=listname,
tolist=1, _plaintext=1)
add
print sys.stderr, _('post to %(listname)s received and queued')
This will write the 'post to %(listname)s received and queued' message
with the listname filled in to both the error and post logs for every
post. This again will tell you if the post got to the post script.
Once we know whether or not the post gets this far, we can focus our
attention and maybe come up with an answer or a way to get more
information.
One thing just occurred to me. Is it possible that the post to list1
and list2 is somehow generated from a post from list1 and contains an
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
header, thus preventing it from being accepted by list1. Then perhaps
the resend to list1 gets generated from the post from list2 and
doesn't contain the
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
header.
Thank you for the reply. I have to restart Mailman this weekend (during
our maintenance window) anyway for another change. I'll take way2 and
see what I see the next week. I'll let you know the results.
Thanks,
Anne
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[Mailman-Users] Disappearing message
Have a new and different one. One of my users that has two lists, let's call them list1 and list2. If he sends a message to list1 and cc's list2, list1 never receives the message. If he sends the same message only to list1, it goes through fine. According to my exim logs, it is delivering both messages to list1: ex. 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=myhost P=esmtp S=288168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=[List1] Agenda Change Advisory Board - Oct 23,2007 3:00pm 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J = list1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J = list2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J Completed 2007-10-22 08:52:31 1Ijwli-0003WN-LD = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=myhost P=esmtp S=288873 [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=FW: [List2] [List1] Agenda Change Advisory Board -Oct 23, 2007 3:00pm 2007-10-22 08:52:31 1Ijwli-0003WN-LD = list1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport 2007-10-22 08:52:31 1Ijwli-0003WN-LD Completed The first message is successfully posted to list2, the second message is successfully posted to list1. The first message has absolutely no MM longs relative to list1. Nothing in the vette, smtp, post, error, bounce, etc. Nothing at all related to message one for List1. This is a weekly message and this has happened for the last 4+ weeks. Before that it appears to have worked fine. I haven't made any system changes in that time. What could cause something like this. Is is possible a list setting could do this? I checked the sender filters on both lists but saw nothing that looked wrong. Any assistance would be appreciated. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] invites for large user list fails
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: Is there a known problem with inviting relatively large groups of addresses at once, ex. 6K at a time? I usually just subscribe, so I haven't run into this before, but I have a list owner who gets an error when trying to subscribe a list of 6000 addresses, but I've been breaking it up to smaller groups (400) and they seem to work fine. But when I get up to 1000+ it fails. If we try to invite the whole list we get: Server error! The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Error message: Premature end of script headers: admin If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Error 500 on the screen and: admin(10796): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.9rc1 -] admin(10796): [- Traceback --] admin(10796): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(10796): File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main admin(10796): main() admin(10796): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py, line 117, in main admin(10796): subscription_confirm(mlist, doc, cookie, cgidata) admin(10796): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py, line 350, in subscription_confirm admin(10796): userdesc = mlist.pend_confirm(cookie, expunge=False)[1] trimmed The above traceback is not from the error in inviting. It is from an error that occurred in trying to accept (or possibly not accept) an invitation or some other subscription confirmation. It was generated by the confirm CGI, not the admin CGI. I don't have time to look at it in more detail for a couple of days, but I will. It could be due to some corruption in the list's pending database caused by the invite error. It appears you are correct and there is no log for the error from the admin invite except the premature end of headers from apache (see below). This error didn't really tell me what was wrong, but I guess I'm just not reading it right. This was the only thing I could find that seemed to be an error: TypeError: unsubscriptable object Does this mean there was just one address on the list that freaked it out? f it is one email address, how do I tell which one? They all look OK to me when I scroll through. I think the 'invite large list' error is the CGI running into an Apache imposed CPU time limit and thus being killed and not given a chance to log any error. You may find more info in the apache error_log. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.018.htp which has to do with memory limits and MemoryError from Mailman/Python, but in this case, you would be looking for an RLimitCPU directive in your Apache config, not RLimitMEM. I see neither RLimitCPU nor RLimitMem in my apache config. The error in my apache log is pretty much just what shows on the screen: [Wed Sep 12 16:17:54 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: http ://lists.domain.tld/mailman/admin/listname/members/add [Wed Sep 12 16:21:10 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: confirm, referer: h ttp://lists.domain.tld/mailman/confirm/listname/6aa1c93a87faa005a204269528bab4968eeda7f3 [Wed Sep 12 16:23:05 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: confirm, referer: h ttp://lists.domain.tld/mailman/confirm/listname/88534c254d1e0e5d4866814e7a4e3da15d75580a [Wed Sep 12 16:34:08 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: htt p://lists.domain.tld/mailman/admin/listname/members/add [Wed Sep 12 16:37:54 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: options, referer: ht tp://lists.domain.tld/mailman/options/listname [Wed Sep 12 16:38:28 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: confirm, referer: ht tp://lists.domain.tld/mailman/confirm/listname/0abdea7d85f4df17e7007b00f86f3901421292aa [Wed Sep 12 16:38:40 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: confirm, referer: ht tp://lists.domain.tld/mailman/confirm/listname/d1a76914852c2a8a920e1a6836adadb41e36d99e [Wed Sep 12 16:52:35 2007] [error] user 9944 not found: /NCMail/index.html [Wed Sep 12 17:34:16 2007] [error]Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: htt p://lists.domain.tld/mailman/admin/listname/members/add It looks like this list is having problems with both confirms and invites, but not every time. This appears to be the only list (out of several hundred) having this problem. But this is probably only one of a few that is sending out large quantities of invites. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] invites for large user list fails
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: I see neither RLimitCPU nor RLimitMem in my apache config. The error in my apache log is pretty much just what shows on the screen: [Wed Sep 12 16:17:54 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: http ://lists.domain.tld/mailman/admin/listname/members/add [Wed Sep 12 16:21:10 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: confirm, referer: h ttp://lists.domain.tld/mailman/confirm/listname/6aa1c93a87faa005a204269528bab4968eeda7f3 [Wed Sep 12 16:23:05 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: confirm, referer: h ttp://lists.domain.tld/mailman/confirm/listname/88534c254d1e0e5d4866814e7a4e3da15d75580a [Wed Sep 12 16:34:08 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: htt p://lists.domain.tld/mailman/admin/listname/members/add [Wed Sep 12 16:37:54 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: options, referer: ht tp://lists.domain.tld/mailman/options/listname [Wed Sep 12 16:38:28 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: confirm, referer: ht tp://lists.domain.tld/mailman/confirm/listname/0abdea7d85f4df17e7007b00f86f3901421292aa [Wed Sep 12 16:38:40 2007] [error] Premature end of script headers: confirm, referer: ht tp://lists.domain.tld/mailman/confirm/listname/d1a76914852c2a8a920e1a6836adadb41e36d99e [Wed Sep 12 16:52:35 2007] [error] user 9944 not found: /NCMail/index.html [Wed Sep 12 17:34:16 2007] [error]Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: htt p://lists.domain.tld/mailman/admin/listname/members/add It looks like this list is having problems with both confirms and invites, but not every time. This appears to be the only list (out of several hundred) having this problem. But this is probably only one of a few that is sending out large quantities of invites. I suspect there may be a problem with the pending database for this list. Download http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/list_pending (mirrored at http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/list_pending), save it in Mailman's bin/ directory and run it on the offending list and see what happens. It will probably throw the TypeError: unsubscriptable object exception. If so, there is at least one bad entry in the pending.pck file. In that case, I can provide a modified script which will delete the bad entries. Thank you very much for the script. It didn't throw any errors that I could see...just a lot of entries that look like this: cookie: 796cc3d566c11147296cd748690a972a364a479c type: S data: UserDesc [EMAIL PROTECTED] () [amekando] [digest? no] [en] I increased this time on my server # Timeout: The number of seconds before receives and sends time out. # Timeout 1000 from 300 to 1000 and managed to enter 1000 invites at once. It did the same thing with 2000. I think you were right about apache terminating the process. Is anyone else running lists that process large #s of invites at once? What should my apache limit be to be effective? Thanks, Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] invites for large user list fails
Is there a known problem with inviting relatively large groups of addresses at once, ex. 6K at a time? I usually just subscribe, so I haven't run into this before, but I have a list owner who gets an error when trying to subscribe a list of 6000 addresses, but I've been breaking it up to smaller groups (400) and they seem to work fine. But when I get up to 1000+ it fails. If we try to invite the whole list we get: Server error! The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Error message: Premature end of script headers: admin If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Error 500 on the screen and: admin(10796): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.9rc1 -] admin(10796): [- Traceback --] admin(10796): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(10796): File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main admin(10796): main() admin(10796): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py, line 117, in main admin(10796): subscription_confirm(mlist, doc, cookie, cgidata) admin(10796): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py, line 350, in subscription_confirm admin(10796): userdesc = mlist.pend_confirm(cookie, expunge=False)[1] admin(10796): TypeError: unsubscriptable object admin(10796): [- Python Information -] admin(10796): sys.version = 2.3.4 (#1, Jan 9 2007, 16:40:18) [GCC 3.4.6 20060404 (Red Hat 3.4.6-3)] admin(10796): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(10796): sys.prefix = /usr admin(10796): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(10796): sys.path= /usr admin(10796): sys.platform= linux2 admin(10796): [- Environment Variables -] admin(10796): HTTP_REFERER: http://lists.domain.tld/mailman/confirm/listname/88534c254d1e0e5d4866814e 7a4e3da15d75580a admin(10796): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) admin(10796): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/confirm admin(10796): SERVER_SIGNATURE: addressApache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Server at lists.domain.tld Port 80/address admin(10796): admin(10796): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(10796): PATH_INFO: /dma.npi.listserv admin(10796): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(10796): QUERY_STRING: admin(10796): CONTENT_LENGTH: 122 admin(10796): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Inf oPath.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30) admin(10796): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive admin(10796): SERVER_NAME: lists.domain.tld admin(10796): REMOTE_ADDR: 11.22.12.123 admin(10796): PATH_TRANSLATED: /var/www/content/listname admin(10796): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(10796): SERVER_ADDR: 123.22.11.32 admin(10796): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/content admin(10796): PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman admin(10796): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/confirm admin(10796): SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] admin(10796): HTTP_HOST: lists.domain.tld admin(10796): HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL: no-cache admin(10796): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/confirm/dma.npi.listserv admin(10796): HTTP_ACCEPT: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/x-shockwave-flash , application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, application/xaml+xml, applicatio n/vnd.ms-xpsdocument, application/x-ms-xbap, application/x-ms-application, */* admin(10796): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(10796): REMOTE_PORT: 14506 admin(10796): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us admin(10796): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(10796): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate This error didn't really tell me what was wrong, but I guess I'm just not reading it right. This was the only thing I could find that seemed to be an error: TypeError: unsubscriptable object Does this mean there was just one address on the list that freaked it out? f it is one email address, how do I tell which one? They all look OK to me when I scroll through. Help? Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] archRunner hogging CPU
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: Continued digging lead me to FAQ 4.41how recent is this. Not very. The FAQ article is about 3 years old, and the list archive thread it refers to regards a Mailman 2.0.11 installation Does anyone else still run into this on the newer versions? I'll talk to some of my list owners and I can change the default, but I was wondering if I was chasing a false lead? (Another note, most of the lists are fewer than 100 members) You could try killing ArchRunner. If you 'kill -TERM' it, mailmanctl won't restart it. Then if things don't clear out, check for stale locks from the ArchRunner process. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.076.htp. That chould get things goung normally, but the messages to be archived will start piling up in the qfiles/archive queue. Then you need to figure out what's wrong. Can you pinpoint a specific list? If so, you could just try rebuilding its archive with bin/arch --wipe listname and then restart ArchRunner with /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s or by stopping and starting mailmanctl (IIRC restart won't restart ArchRunner if it was SIGTERMed). Note that rebuilding the archive with bin/arch is not a step to be taken lightly as it MAY renumber messages and invalidate saved URLs, but if the issue is a corrupt archives/private/listname/database/* file, there may be no choice. You may also wish to check the archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox file with bin/cleanarch before running bin/arch. I did both, just to be safe. The two main offenders now have weekly archives and I used the above to rebuild the archives on the most high traffic list. Now the archiving qrunner is caught up, my load is back down and everything is great. Thanks so much, Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] archRunner hogging CPU
It appears my archive runner is flipping out today. It is hogging the CPU and can't seem to keep up with the messages. I restarted mailman and it doesn't seem to have helped. It doesn't appear as if we are seeing any unusual traffic, so I can't think of what would cause this. It isn't completely stuck...it's processing messages, just really slowly and taking lots of CPU to do it. We are using Exim version 4.43 on RHEL 4 and mailman version 2.1.9rc1. Ideas? top - 15:15:49 up 152 days, 16:33, 5 users, load average: 1.25, 1.45, 1.49 Tasks: 153 total, 2 running, 150 sleeping, 1 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 25.0% us, 0.2% sy, 0.0% ni, 72.6% id, 2.2% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 4086484k total, 1987572k used, 2098912k free, 515092k buffers Swap: 2048276k total, 144k used, 2048132k free, 512688k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 13486 mailman 25 0 233m 227m 2412 R 99.9 5.7 40:38.48 python 281 root 15 0 000 S 0.3 0.0 79:02.77 kjournald 13921 root 15 0 000 S 0.3 0.0 0:20.23 pdflush 13482 mailman 16 0 15328 9716 2372 S 0.3 0.2 0:06.15 python mailman 28270 1 0 Jun19 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/bin/mailmanctl start mailman 13479 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13480 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13481 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13482 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:06 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13483 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13484 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13485 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13486 28270 98 14:34 ?00:42:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] archRunner hogging CPU
This is a dedicated server that does mailman and one low traffic web site. CPU load is usually ~0.05 or there abouts. I have never seen the archive runner taking up so much CPU. It's been doing it for hours. The other queues are running fine. Posted messages go out in a timely manner. It's just taking 15+ minutes to archive the messages. It's hogging the CPU and making other things I'm trying to do slower to respond, especially web site functions (including mailman's admin sites). Anne Brian Carpenter wrote: Hi Anne: It doesn't seem your load is that high (1.49 15 minute avg.) and you have plenty of memory left. There isn't that many running processes (153) either. Is this a dedicated server used only for mailman or is this a shared hosting environment? According to your top output, your server should be keeping up fine with any messages being sent to mailman. Kind regards, Brian Carpenter -- EMWD - Executive Officer www.emwd.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Ramey Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:23 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] archRunner hogging CPU It appears my archive runner is flipping out today. It is hogging the CPU and can't seem to keep up with the messages. I restarted mailman and it doesn't seem to have helped. It doesn't appear as if we are seeing any unusual traffic, so I can't think of what would cause this. It isn't completely stuck...it's processing messages, just really slowly and taking lots of CPU to do it. We are using Exim version 4.43 on RHEL 4 and mailman version 2.1.9rc1. Ideas? top - 15:15:49 up 152 days, 16:33, 5 users, load average: 1.25, 1.45, 1.49 Tasks: 153 total, 2 running, 150 sleeping, 1 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 25.0% us, 0.2% sy, 0.0% ni, 72.6% id, 2.2% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 4086484k total, 1987572k used, 2098912k free, 515092k buffers Swap: 2048276k total, 144k used, 2048132k free, 512688k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 13486 mailman 25 0 233m 227m 2412 R 99.9 5.7 40:38.48 python 281 root 15 0 000 S 0.3 0.0 79:02.77 kjournald 13921 root 15 0 000 S 0.3 0.0 0:20.23 pdflush 13482 mailman 16 0 15328 9716 2372 S 0.3 0.2 0:06.15 python mailman 28270 1 0 Jun19 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/bin/mailmanctl start mailman 13479 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13480 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13481 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13482 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:06 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13483 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13484 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13485 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13486 28270 98 14:34 ?00:42:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/brian%40emwd.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] archRunner hogging CPU
Continued digging lead me to FAQ 4.41how recent is this. Does anyone else still run into this on the newer versions? I'll talk to some of my list owners and I can change the default, but I was wondering if I was chasing a false lead? (Another note, most of the lists are fewer than 100 members) Anne Brian Carpenter wrote: Hi Anne: It doesn't seem your load is that high (1.49 15 minute avg.) and you have plenty of memory left. There isn't that many running processes (153) either. Is this a dedicated server used only for mailman or is this a shared hosting environment? According to your top output, your server should be keeping up fine with any messages being sent to mailman. Kind regards, Brian Carpenter -- EMWD - Executive Officer www.emwd.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Ramey Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:23 PM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] archRunner hogging CPU It appears my archive runner is flipping out today. It is hogging the CPU and can't seem to keep up with the messages. I restarted mailman and it doesn't seem to have helped. It doesn't appear as if we are seeing any unusual traffic, so I can't think of what would cause this. It isn't completely stuck...it's processing messages, just really slowly and taking lots of CPU to do it. We are using Exim version 4.43 on RHEL 4 and mailman version 2.1.9rc1. Ideas? top - 15:15:49 up 152 days, 16:33, 5 users, load average: 1.25, 1.45, 1.49 Tasks: 153 total, 2 running, 150 sleeping, 1 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 25.0% us, 0.2% sy, 0.0% ni, 72.6% id, 2.2% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 4086484k total, 1987572k used, 2098912k free, 515092k buffers Swap: 2048276k total, 144k used, 2048132k free, 512688k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 13486 mailman 25 0 233m 227m 2412 R 99.9 5.7 40:38.48 python 281 root 15 0 000 S 0.3 0.0 79:02.77 kjournald 13921 root 15 0 000 S 0.3 0.0 0:20.23 pdflush 13482 mailman 16 0 15328 9716 2372 S 0.3 0.2 0:06.15 python mailman 28270 1 0 Jun19 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/bin/mailmanctl start mailman 13479 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13480 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13481 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13482 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:06 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13483 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13484 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13485 28270 0 14:34 ?00:00:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 13486 28270 98 14:34 ?00:42:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/brian%40emwd.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] SMS/text messaging
I have some users interested in setting up lists to send out text messages to phones/PDAs. We have figured out that the confirmation messages for subscription do not work on these devices. We figured out that the approve method of subscription works, but the email it sends to let the user know their subscription is waiting is rather long. Has anyone tweaked Mailman to work with these devices? I don't see any patches out there for it. -- Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Try this one bin/list_members -i listname | bin/remove_members -f - -n listname If that doesn't work, see http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/ or http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/ for a link to an experimental withlist script that should do it. Miracle of miracles, this appears to have worked. Thank you so much. Which worked, the list_members -i | remove_members pipe or the withlist script? The list_members -i | remove_members pipe is what worked for me. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: If the bad addresses don't appear in list_members (I don't know why they wouldn't, but maybe they just appear with the control characters that you don't see and thus look OK) you can do bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - -n listname This says: ./list_members listname | ./sync_members -f - -n listname Dry run mode Invalid : [EMAIL PROTECTED] You must fix the preceding invalid addresses first. So I guess no luck there. So the address does appear in the list_members output. Try this one bin/list_members -i listname | bin/remove_members -f - -n listname If that doesn't work, see http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/ or http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/ for a link to an experimental withlist script that should do it. Miracle of miracles, this appears to have worked. Thank you so much. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: I should have mentioned that will not work for this case. You'll notice that these are not all nice ascii characters. some are spaces, some deletes, some other hex values...I don't know what they all are because they will not copy and past nicely. They don't appear at all when I do list_members. Any other ideas There are several options and I have lots of ideas. Have you tried just checking the 'unsub' box next to the entry? yes, it says it is successful, but the addresses are still there The 'address' you see looks a lot like the URL of the options page that the address is a link to. Perhaps you are not seeing the address at all, but rather, you are seeing the result of funny characters in the address confusing the browser's rendering of the anchor tag. It looks like http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/options/nciin-network-ops/%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00 is a link to the options page of the user whose address is %00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00 (if you replace --at-- with @, %00 with ^@, %1F with ^_, %01 with ^A and %03 with ^C) Do you see [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the list_members output? No, I see [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@ the name has all the control characters in it. Which is why it doesn't display, delete, or list correctly Does this entry appear in the membership list on its own page at the beginning? There are 4 like this, and yes, they appear on their own page at the beginning of the membership list. It also looks like someone mass subscribed a list pasted from or output by a word processor If the bad addresses don't appear in list_members (I don't know why they wouldn't, but maybe they just appear with the control characters that you don't see and thus look OK) you can do bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - -n listname This says: ./list_members listname | ./sync_members -f - -n listname Dry run mode Invalid : [EMAIL PROTECTED] You must fix the preceding invalid addresses first. So I guess no luck there. and if you like what that says, you can do bin/list_members listname | bin/synch_members -f - listname You might also try bin/list_members -i listname to see what that shows. You could create a simple withlist script to validate member addresses and delete invalid ones.. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters
Patrick Bogen wrote: On 12/6/06, Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how one of my list admins managed to do this, but they have four members on their list that look like this in the membership list: b http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/options/nciin-network-ops/%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00 See FAQ 3.13. How do I remove a user name or email address with an illegal character in it? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.013.htp I should have mentioned that will not work for this case. You'll notice that these are not all nice ascii characters. some are spaces, some deletes, some other hex values...I don't know what they all are because they will not copy and past nicely. They don't appear at all when I do list_members. Any other ideas -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't login mailman list admin web
Mark Sapiro wrote: Stanley Chen wrote: Recently we have sent out several mails to this list, and it's still running. What is still running? Is Mailman still sending to the MTA? However, we can't login to the admin webpage. After we input password, the page was loading as shown in the status bar, but after several minutes still can't show the admin page and finally it said page can't be loaded. Seems like the list may be locked. If so, and the lock is stale, you can manually remove the lock from Mailman's locks/ directory, but first be sure it isn't locked by some current process. Sounds to me like the server is just too busy for the web to respond before the browser time-out. I used to get this all the time on my 100K-500K member list sendings. If a message was still being sent/processed, the web site would not respond, or would respond very slowly. It is generally the case that servers consider other task, including smtp, a higher priority than http requests. This can cause http requests to time out if the server resources are otherwise occupied. -- Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] removing members with non-standard characters
I'm not sure how one of my list admins managed to do this, but they have four members on their list that look like this in the membership list: b http://lists.ncmail.net/mailman/options/nciin-network-ops/%00b%00r%00i%00a%00n%00v%00--at--%00n%00c%00c%00c%00s%00.%00c%00c%00.%00n%00c%00.%00u%00s%00%00%00%00%00%1F%00%00%00%01%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%03%00%00%00 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Too Many Lists?
Greetings, I've been happily converting text/aliases based lists to mailman (Tru64 Unix v5.1b, Sendmail 8.13.7, Apache Server version: Apache/2.0.54, Mailman version: 2.1.9) and everything has been working great. I have ~150 lists with ~16,000 addresses distributed among them. Most of the lists are 100 with a few 2000. I find when I add another list things get goofy. I can get to a list's admin page fine but when I click on another link, even a documentation or logout link, I get a web page not found browser message. At this point I cannot even logout from the admin page. When I remove the additional list operation returns to normal. I've checked_perms, restarted apache mailman, and searched the FAQ all with no luck. I seem to be on the border of some system limit. I also copied the installation to a similar, backup system and got the same results. Any ideas? Todd Seeleman I'm happily running 239 Mailman lists, the largest of which has /5/970 at the moment on mailman 2.1.9. //I have previously run mailman lists with 200K addresses on them on earlier versions of Mailman. I've not see this issue. I did have an issue similar to this when my url was not being set successfully and all of the links were trying to go to a non-existent domain./ / -- Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Default options for list
I was setting my system defaults for a new installation of mailman and seem to have run across a stumbling block. I can set the generic_member_moderation to yes, but there doesn't seem to be a way in mm_cfg.py to set default member_moderation_action or default member_moderation_notice...or am I missing something? I don't see any defaults for those in Defaults.py and when I try DEFAULT_MEMBER_MODERATION_ACTION = 1 DEFAULT_MEMBER_MODERATION_NOTICE = You do not have permission to post to this list, Please contact the list owner with any issues it seems to have no effect. How do I set a system default for these? -- Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] LDAP auth for admins
Has anyone done this already: change the login page to accept email address and password and then (1) check to be sure the email address is an owner of the list then (2) if so, authenticate them off an LDAP? This would really reduce our forgot password type support calls. -- Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] trying to change default_url_pattern
I put this setting in my mm_cfg.py: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman_ldap/' and my httpd.conf contains this: # This alias is for mailman mailing lists ScriptAlias /mailman_ldap/ /usr/local/mailman_ldap/cgi-bin/ I can log into the list fine, but all of the links on that page are /mailman/ not /mailman_ldap/ and if I try and type in the correct link it works. How do I change this so that it changes what links it creates in my web interface?* * -- Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] trying to change default_url_pattern
I thought that was just for the hostname. Worked like a charm! Thanks Anne Dragon wrote: Anne Ramey sent the message below at 12:31 10/26/2006: I put this setting in my mm_cfg.py: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman_ldap/' and my httpd.conf contains this: # This alias is for mailman mailing lists ScriptAlias /mailman_ldap/ /usr/local/mailman_ldap/cgi-bin/ I can log into the list fine, but all of the links on that page are /mailman/ not /mailman_ldap/ and if I try and type in the correct link it works. How do I change this so that it changes what links it creates in my web interface?* * End original message. - Did you make these changes before or after setting up the list(s)? If after, did you run fix_url on the list(s) to update their configuration? Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Member list...
David Boothe wrote: I habe the following set up as a cron job... /path/to/mailman/bin/list_members listname | mail -s 'List Names' [EMAIL PROTECTED] It sends the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it is empty. You might try /path/to/mailman/bin/list_members listname /path/to/mail -s 'List Names' [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may need to specify the path to the mail depending on what you have PATH= set to for your crontab. Also, I've never tried to | in cron. I'm sure it's possible, but redirects the output of a cron command to wherever you've specified. -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] can't call command line functions from php
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: I have my php script running as a user in the mailman group, but when I try to do: //add user to Admin email list $command = /usr/local/mailman/bin/add_members -r .$Filename. admins; system($command, $status); I get a status of 1 returned to me and it doesn't add the users. and: My safe_mode is Off. There are no errors in my http log and none output to the screen. I can run other commands with system and shell_exec...just not any mailman commands. Are you sure you're executing the command as the mailman group? Try chmod g+s /usr/local/mailman/bin/add_members and see if that helps. If it does, the problem is with the group executing the command. That did not help. Does anyone have any other ideas? If it were all system commands, that would be one thing, but it appears to be just mailman. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] can't call command line functions from php
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: I have my php script running as a user in the mailman group, but when I try to do: //add user to Admin email list $command = /usr/local/mailman/bin/add_members -r .$Filename. admins; system($command, $status); I get a status of 1 returned to me and it doesn't add the users. and: My safe_mode is Off. There are no errors in my http log and none output to the screen. I can run other commands with system and shell_exec...just not any mailman commands. Are you sure you're executing the command as the mailman group? Try chmod g+s /usr/local/mailman/bin/add_members and see if that helps. If it does, the problem is with the group executing the command. You don't want to leave add_members as SETGID if non Mailman admins have shell access to your box as SETGID will allow anyone to successfully run the command. That didn't help. I have found an error: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck' it was in my main apache log, not the log for the virtual server I am running the command off of. What I get permission denied to depends on what command I'm trying to run. Sometimes it's a lock file. If it's a group thing, I don't understand why--my perl scripts can run these commands fine, but my php cannot. They both run from the same web server, so they'll both be running as the same user. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] can't call command line functions from php
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: I have my php script running as a user in the mailman group, but when I try to do: //add user to Admin email list $command = /usr/local/mailman/bin/add_members -r .$Filename. admins; system($command, $status); I get a status of 1 returned to me and it doesn't add the users. and: My safe_mode is Off. There are no errors in my http log and none output to the screen. I can run other commands with system and shell_exec...just not any mailman commands. Are you sure you're executing the command as the mailman group? Try chmod g+s /usr/local/mailman/bin/add_members and see if that helps. If it does, the problem is with the group executing the command. You don't want to leave add_members as SETGID if non Mailman admins have shell access to your box as SETGID will allow anyone to successfully run the command. Sorry for the multitude of emails, but I'm hammering on this and keep finding out new tidbits. The scripts only work as mailman and root on this machine...it is the live server (this is the test) that can successfully run from the perl scripts. So my issue is different than I thought. My check_perms gives me No problems found. I have added a couple of users to the mailman group, I've tried the chmod g+s for all the scripts. All to no effect. I'm beginning to wonder if it may be a systems issue--something wrong with the way it's handling group permissions. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] can't call command line functions from php
I have my php script running as a user in the mailman group, but when I try to do: //add user to Admin email list $command = /usr/local/mailman/bin/add_members -r .$Filename. admins; system($command, $status); I get a status of 1 returned to me and it doesn't add the users. I've tried: shell_exec($command); as well but it didn't work either. I can successfully call these functions from my old perl scripts, so I don't think it's a permissions issue. I think I must be missing something in the php. This may be a little out of the scope of this list, but any help would be appreciated. -- Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] can't call command line functions from php
Dragon wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: I have my php script running as a user in the mailman group, but when I try to do: //add user to Admin email list $command = /usr/local/mailman/bin/add_members -r .$Filename. admins; system($command, $status); I get a status of 1 returned to me and it doesn't add the users. I've tried: shell_exec($command); as well but it didn't work either. I can successfully call these functions from my old perl scripts, so I don't think it's a permissions issue. I think I must be missing something in the php. This may be a little out of the scope of this list, but any help would be appreciated. End original message. - This is slightly off-topic but I am sure there are other users out there who also use PHP for web scripting to interface to mailman (I do on my system, I am far more comfortable with it than Python). This sounds like PHP is being run in safe mode and the scripts you are trying to run are not allowed under the permitted safe-mode commands. Safe mode is often enabled by ISPs running servers that host virtual domains to prevent users from doing malicious and/or negligent things that can damage the file hierarchy or compromise sensitive system information. Chapter 9 of the PHP manual describes safe mode and how it works. If you have error reporting to the browser turned off, you will need to look in the HTTP server error log to see if PHP is complaining about something. You might have to boost the error-reporting level in your PHP script using the error_reporting function in your script to get the level of detail you need. Dragon My safe_mode is Off. There are no errors in my http log and none output to the screen. I can run other commands with system and shell_exec...just not any mailman commands. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] new list--sort of
OK, here is an interesting one. I recently moved all the lists and my perl admin interface (for other things, not mailman list admin) to a new server. Both independantly seem to be running fine, but they seem to refuse to interface. If I try and do a newlist from my program, I get the mail, but the list is not created. I find this behavior especially puzzling. My perl program can run /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_lists even though apache (who it runs as) can run it fine. I just gets no response. ./check_perms -f No problems found I've checked and double checked my permissions, both with the mailman's check_perms and by looking. It all looks right to me. Does anyone have any idea what might be going on here. or anything else I should try? btw, the perl program can successfully execute other shell commands. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: OK, my cgi-bin was missing the suid. Now all I need to figure out is my post failures. Is $prefix/mail/mailman also missing SETGID? If that's not it, does your MTA use aliases for Mailman, and if so, are they there? What's in the MTA log for an attempted post? I thought I should post that I did solve it. My $prefix/mail/mailman was also missing it's siud, but my exim install was also missing a + in front of the local domains. So now my mail can be delivered to mailman and mailman can process it. Thanks. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move
OK, my cgi-bin was missing the suid. Now all I need to figure out is my post failures. -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move
I'm moving my mailman lists to a new server and when I go to the web interface, I now get: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. But there is no information in the Mailman logs or the apache logs about this error and my posts to the lists fail. Any pointers would be much appreciated. -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Welcome messages
Question about welcome message options. If I have my welcome message option under General Options turned off, it doesn't send out welcome messages. Period. Even if I say to do so on the mass subscription page. I thought the individual subscription options would override what you have under general options, not the other way around. Is it supposed to work like this or do I have a problem? I'm using mailman 2.1.8 on RHEL 4 -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] stange domain/url question
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: snip Please address all questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This makes no sense. It shouldn't be -admin because that's a Mailman 2.0.x artifact, but the 'mailman' site list didn't appear until 2.1. You are incorrect. That is not a typo...it was copied and pasted from the email I was sent this morning when I did a test. I'm running 2.1.8, but it's been upgraded time and again. Well then is your site list named 'mailman-admin' (I assumed it was 'mailman')? No, it's names mailman. I can only assume the admin address is left over after upgrade. My default url host was still the old. I'll change it and see if that makes the difference. You need to not only make sure your DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST are correct, you also have to insure that old values from Defaults.py are removed from VIRTUAL_HOSTS. You do this by putting the following in mm_cfg.py: # Remove old VIRTUAL_HOSTS entry from Defaults.py VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() # Set correct Domains DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'correct.web.domain' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'correct.email.domain'. # Add to VIRTUAL_HOSTS add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) (You don't need the comments). Then restart Mailman (bin/mailmanctl restart) and run fix_url on all lists via bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url I think it may have been the clear command I was missing. Thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] stange domain/url question
Not too long ago, we switched out domain from wwwadm.mydomain.com to lists.mydomain.com. I used fix-url on all the lists, and when we create all lists now, we create then as ./newlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] But when the email is sent to the administrator for these new lists it has wwwadm.mydomain.com referenced in it: There is also an email-based interface for users (not administrators) of your list; you can get info about using it by sending a message with just the word `help' as subject or in the body, to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe a user: from the mailing list 'listinfo' web page, click on or enter the user's email address as if you were that user. Where that user would put in their password to unsubscribe, put in your admin password. You can also use your password to change member's options, including digestification, delivery disabling, etc. Please address all questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know why this is happening? Or how I get this to change to lists.mydomain.com? My users are pretty much computer novices and this will confuse them. Any assistance is appreciated. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] stange domain/url question
Mark Sapiro wrote: snip Please address all questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This makes no sense. It shouldn't be -admin because that's a Mailman 2.0.x artifact, but the 'mailman' site list didn't appear until 2.1. Assuming this is a typo and is really [EMAIL PROTECTED], I proceed. You are incorrect. That is not a typo...it was copied and pasted from the email I was sent this morning when I did a test. I'm running 2.1.8, but it's been upgraded time and again. Does anyone know why this is happening? Or how I get this to change to lists.mydomain.com? My users are pretty much computer novices and this will confuse them. This is really the same issue as http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-July/052345.html which see. If you only have the one domain, and it is DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and is the only entry in VIRTUAL_HOSTS, you shouldn't need to specify a domain to newlist and everything should be OK. In your case, the domain in the mailman address comes directly from a lookup of DEFAULT_URL_HOST in the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary. The domain in the list-request address is the host_name attribute of the list (on the General Settings page) which came from a lookup of lists.mydomain.com (based on your newlist command) in VIRTUAL_HOSTS or if not found, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST. My default url host was still the old. I'll change it and see if that makes the difference. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML converted to attachment
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately I am encountering problems with sending HTML email to the mailing lists. Mailman seems to alter the email message and add the original HTML email as an attachment. I have content filtering switched off and the option 'convert text/html to text/plain' has been switched off as well. Remove the message header and footer (msg_header and msg_footer on the admin Non-digest options page. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan Unfortunately this didn't help. I already configured in my mm_cfg.py to remove the footer. I've added my mm_cfg.py information at the bottom of this email. Thanks for your help. Brenno. I've had this problem before. It was because some email clients actually send the html as an attachment. They appear usually, as inline, because of how most mail clients are set up, but mailman treats it like the attachment it is. Outlook does this, or at least it used to (I haven't tried lately). I've used Thunderbird successfully. There are also tools out there that create html mails correctly specifically for sending to lists. -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] pruning archives
Is this still the easiest way to prune archives? Seems rather labor intensive... http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.003.htp http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.003.htp -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] changing hostname
I changed my hostname from the time I first installed mailman. For the most part, the transition went smoothly, but we still have a few traces I'd like to get rid of. The host name this list prefers for email has taken care of most of it, just not the web interface: To see the list of lists, the lists made on the old hostname are at http://oldhost.name/mailman/admin/ and the new ones are at http://newhost.name/mailman/admin/ Now, the individual lists can all be reached at http://newhost.name/mailman/admin/listname ...it's just the admin listing and the server's main http://oldhost.name/mailman/listinfo that I can't seem to get to switch over. Is there a way to do this? Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] mailman + exim, no mail to owners
I've just switched over from sendmail to exim because of how well it (supposedly) works with mailman, but now none of my owner posts are going through...thus owners are not getting their notifications of pending posts, etc. It's happening for all my lists. This is what's in the mailman logs: May 18 11:43:51 2006 (1956) post to escml.field.all from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5185, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2 failures And there is nothing in the exim log. Since the message are getting to mailman, I don't think it's a problem with exim delivering the message to mailman, but there seems to be some error in processing the data. They just keep sitting in the retry queue. I'm not sure what to try next, please advise. -- Anne Ramey NCMail 850-2762 __ NOTICE: E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + exim, no mail to owners
Anne Ramey wrote: I've just switched over from sendmail to exim because of how well it (supposedly) works with mailman, but now none of my owner posts are going through...thus owners are not getting their notifications of pending posts, etc. It's happening for all my lists. This is what's in the mailman logs: May 18 11:43:51 2006 (1956) post to escml.field.all from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5185, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2 failures And there is nothing in the exim log. Since the message are getting to mailman, I don't think it's a problem with exim delivering the message to mailman, but there seems to be some error in processing the data. They just keep sitting in the retry queue. I'm not sure what to try next, please advise. Let me add that the main mailman messages are going through fine, and I see those sent in the exim logs, it is just these owner posts that don't show up in the logs. Yes, it appears that exim is configured correctly, and like I said, the mail is getting to mailman to be posted to the owner fine, it's mailman that doesn't seem to be able to handle it. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + exim, no mail to owners
Let me try again, hopefully I'll be more clear this time: I've just switched over from sendmail to exim because of how well it (supposedly) works with mailman, but now none of my owner posts are going through...thus owners are not getting their notifications of pending posts, etc. Let me mention here that messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and [EMAIL PROTECTED] seem to be going through without trouble. People can submit (un)subscribes and post messages to the lists fine. It's just the owner messages that are not going out. It's happening for all my lists. This is what's in the mailman logs: May 18 11:43:51 2006 (1956) post to listname from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5185, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2 failures And there is nothing about these messages in the exim log, but I can of course see the posts and request messages fine in the exim logs, since they go to their destinations. Since the message are getting to mailman, I don't think it's a problem with exim delivering the message to mailman, but there seems to be some error in processing the data--the number of failures listed is always the number of owners for that list. They just keep sitting in the retry queue. I'm not sure what to try next, please advise. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] adding list on virtual domain
I want to change a list I added to the main domain on the list server to the equivalent of having added the list as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would have thought this was the preferred domain variable in the general options, but it's still taking me to http://maindomain.com/mailman/admin/listname/members etc instead of http://www.myotherdomain.com/mailman/admin/listname/members ? Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] bandwidth monitoring per list
Is there a tool I could use, or a way inside mailman itself, to monitor the bandwidth used by a particular list? Either to institute a quota or (preferably) end up with a stats type graph or set of #s? Thanks -- Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] strange bounce message
A couple of people have sent replies to one of my lists today and several of the messages bounced like this: === THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE === A temporary error occured while delivering to the following address(es): pfenno at ncees.org: 454 TLS not available, must be connected via TCP I will continue trying to send the message until it is delivered or expires. They've replied without incident before. It looks like they have changed something on their end to require the message to be delivered TLS, which the server this message is attempting to deliver to does not support, and that there is nothing I can do...is that correct. What can I tell the sender to do to prevent this? Any pointers would be appreciated. I've been using mailman for a couple of years and haven't run into this before. -- Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] confirm for one list errors, other list works
Jim Tittsler wrote: On 2005-08-19 00:01, Anne Ramey wrote: I added a new list to my mailman yesterday (cplist), and copied the config over from another list (mbalist). Subscribe comfirmations to cplist fail if you reply to the mail with Invalid confirmation string:, but the link inside the mail works fine. The reply to the subscribe confirmation for the other list (mbalist) works fine. I'm using mailman 2.1 on linux. Any idea what might be causing this? Do the confirmation requests come from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you remember to create the cplist aliases? (Especially the cplist-request alias pointing at |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request cplist and not mbalist.) Yes, I added the aliases: ## cplist mailing list cplist: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post cplist cplist-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin cplist cplist-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces cplist cplist-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm cplist cplist-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join cplist cplist-leave:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave cplist cplist-owner:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner cplist cplist-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request cplist cplist-subscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe cplist cplist-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe cplist And they both have the same from structure, they come from: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] confirm for one list errors, other list works
I added a new list to my mailman yesterday (cplist), and copied the config over from another list (mbalist). Subscribe comfirmations to cplist fail if you reply to the mail with Invalid confirmation string:, but the link inside the mail works fine. The reply to the subscribe confirmation for the other list (mbalist) works fine. I'm using mailman 2.1 on linux. Any idea what might be causing this? Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] post not logged as 'posted' but appears in archives
(1) what do the failures mean on a posting log like this: Jan 21 13:58:38 2005 (1967) post to nc_museum from [EMAIL PROTECTED] , size=20128, 3 failures (2) Is there any way to tell what part of a mailing went and what part didn't if the post occurs in archives, but never is posted --ie never finishes sending...??? (3) does anyone know why incming lookups for aliases might affect outgoing mail? Anne Anne Ramey wrote: I finally found some errors, in the syslog. postfix/smtpd[10144]: warning: connect to mysql server localhost: Too many connections This was trying to resolve aliases, etc and running into too many connections. I can understand how that may interfere with bounce processing, but would it interfere with the sending of the list? How can I tell what's been sent and what hasn't ? Anne Ramey Anne Ramey wrote: I have a couple of messages posted to a list (moderated list, sent weekly) that appear in the lists archives, but not in the post log for mailman. The weeks before that they appear like this: Jan 06 14:03:41 2005 (1967) post to tn_sale from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=16694, 3 failures Always with 3 failures. Then last week, the 13th there are no errors anywhere, but no posted log. Also, their number of out-of-office and bounces seem very low. They are concerned that it never finished sending. They sent another today--again, no posted message. I did not receive todays yet, but it was sent around 11 this morning...and there doesn't seem to be anything in the outgoing queue. The server is not acting like mailman is busy--I'm not seeing python tasks popping up frequently, like I do when it's sending usually. What else can I check? Has this happened to anyone else? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] post not logged as 'posted' but appears in archives
I have a couple of messages posted to a list (moderated list, sent weekly) that appear in the lists archives, but not in the post log for mailman. The weeks before that they appear like this: Jan 06 14:03:41 2005 (1967) post to tn_sale from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=16694, 3 failures Always with 3 failures. Then last week, the 13th there are no errors anywhere, but no posted log. Also, their number of out-of-office and bounces seem very low. They are concerned that it never finished sending. They sent another today--again, no posted message. I did not receive todays yet, but it was sent around 11 this morning...and there doesn't seem to be anything in the outgoing queue. The server is not acting like mailman is busy--I'm not seeing python tasks popping up frequently, like I do when it's sending usually. What else can I check? Has this happened to anyone else? -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] post not logged as 'posted' but appears in archives
I finally found some errors, in the syslog. postfix/smtpd[10144]: warning: connect to mysql server localhost: Too many connections This was trying to resolve aliases, etc and running into too many connections. I can understand how that may interfere with bounce processing, but would it interfere with the sending of the list? How can I tell what's been sent and what hasn't ? Anne Ramey Anne Ramey wrote: I have a couple of messages posted to a list (moderated list, sent weekly) that appear in the lists archives, but not in the post log for mailman. The weeks before that they appear like this: Jan 06 14:03:41 2005 (1967) post to tn_sale from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=16694, 3 failures Always with 3 failures. Then last week, the 13th there are no errors anywhere, but no posted log. Also, their number of out-of-office and bounces seem very low. They are concerned that it never finished sending. They sent another today--again, no posted message. I did not receive todays yet, but it was sent around 11 this morning...and there doesn't seem to be anything in the outgoing queue. The server is not acting like mailman is busy--I'm not seeing python tasks popping up frequently, like I do when it's sending usually. What else can I check? Has this happened to anyone else? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] everyone getting unsubscribes when doing command line
When I subscribe or unsubscribe from the command line, both the owner and the users get notified, even though the config of the list says not too. And everything works fine if I do it through the web interface. Why would this happen? Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] one users mails being caught as bounces
All other users of this list can reply to messages normally, but I have one user that every time he replies, the list admin gets a message like: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Uncaught bounce notification The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). His user looks like it is set up exactly like all the others. Any ideas why this might be happening? -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] user's replies are detected as bounces
All other users of this list can reply to messages normally, but I have one user that every time he replies, the list admin gets a message like: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Uncaught bounce notification The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). His user looks like it is set up exactly like all the others. Any ideas why this might be happening? -- Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Personalization comes through as attachment
When I set up personalization with mailman, I get it normally in most mail clients. But in Outlook, it's coming through as an attachment. Is there any way to fix this? Do I need to upgrade my mailman? Using Mailman version: 2.1.2 Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix+mailman, part 2
It looks like your file permissions are good, but what user is actually running mailman? Anne On Apr 16, 2004, at 7:55 AM, David Relson wrote: On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:01:09 +0530 (IST) Yogesh Subhash Talekar wrote: okie .. i think you should: Add the line /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases to alias_maps and *remove* it from virtual_alias_maps. Just make sure that you run: /usr/bin/postmap on var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman And /usr/sbin/postaliases on /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases The problem is the user test-subscribe should be resolvable locally Lo Yogesh, Thanks for writing. After my post I did some more research and experimentation, which resulted in /etc/postfix/main.cf having the lines you suggest, i.e.: virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases Postfix now has a different complaint, i.e [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Command died with status 2: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe bogofilter. Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group mailman, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group nogroup. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group mailman, or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nogroup'. Checking user and group id's, I have: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ll /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman -rwxrwsr-x 1 mailman mailman 6248 Mar 14 16:46 /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# grep mailman /etc/passwd /etc/group /etc/passwd:mailman:x:1200:1200::/home/mailman:/bin/false /etc/group:mailman:x:1200: AFAICT, the permissions are set properly. Do you know how to tweak the mail server (as suggested by mailman)? Thanks. David -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] 550: user unknown
Did you set up your aliases for the list in postfix's alias file? It looks from below like you set this up for mailman--not accessible by postfix. Anne On Apr 11, 2004, at 6:09 AM, esteve serra clavera wrote: hi again, for those who have asked more details on my user unknown error and for the ones can help me now, here are some more details as on mailman setup, i added to main.cf alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases virtual_maps =mysql:/etc/postfix/virtual.cf, #hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/virtual-mailman local_recipient_maps = unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps $virtual_mailbox_maps virtual_mailbox_maps=mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virt.cf local_transport = virtual [virtual-mailman hasn't been generated. i guess it's because i only use one domain so it's useless] it seems it has generated properly the aliases of the lists xx:/usr/local/mailman/data# ls -l total 36 -rw-rw1 mailman mailman 357 Apr 11 11:56 aliases -rw-r--r--1 mailman mailman 12288 Apr 11 11:56 aliases.db -rw-r--r--1 root mailman10 Mar 20 20:36 last_mailman_version -rw-r--r--1 root mailman 14110 Mar 20 20:35 sitelist.cfg when sending an email to one test list it appears at /var/log/mail.log Apr 11 12:04:06 xx postfix/smtpd[4867]: connect from yy[192.168.1.2] Apr 11 12:04:06 xx postfix/smtpd[4867]: 58673C676A: client=yy[192.168.1.2] Apr 11 12:04:06 xx postfix/smtpd[4867]: reject: RCPT from yy[192.168.1.2]: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: User unknown; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 11 12:04:11 xx postfix/smtpd[4867]: disconnect from yy[192.168.1.2] so, what might be wrong? thanks to everyone -- esteve serra clavera [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Email with URLS
You could use the personalization options. Full Personalization under non-digest options and put your link in the header or footer, personalized. Anne On Apr 6, 2004, at 1:06 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: We'd like to setup a mailing list that we can use to email our clients from time to time. What I'd like to know is if I can, somehow, include a URL in the email body that has a unique ID that we can track when someone clicks on that URL. Is there some way I can create a message with the URL in it, send it to the list, and have mailman append some ID to it somehow. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] No e-mail is sent to the list..
Do you have emergency list moderation turned on? Are the messages being held for approval (and sent to the administrator to let then know what's there)? Do the members have no-mail option checked? Anne On Apr 1, 2004, at 3:36 AM, PiCo wrote: I'm still tring to configure mailman on my server. The problem seems to be if I try to send e.mail to the list Infact all the e-mail I send to the list is sent only to the list administrator. No mail is sent to members list But if I try (as a member) to remember password, for example, the email is sent regularly to member. Do you have any idea of what can be the pproblem?? In using a PC with no addree, I have only a fixed IP. cia PiCo ICQ # 105570291 Tel.: +39 335 1234 475 Fax.: +39 06 233 2401 88 -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Instant Bounce Notification
I think if you set the bounce score threshold to .5 it will disable/remove on even 1 soft bounce. Anne On Mar 19, 2004, at 11:56 AM, Mike Phillips wrote: How can I set MM to notify me if even a SINGLE email bounces? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] bounce processing not sending mail to owner
Even though I have set my system to notify the list owner upon disable and unsubscription, my owner isn't getting any mails, despite many: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces list) messages The maximum member bounce score before the member's subscription is disabled. is set to 1.0 Is there any way to see if mailman has actually disabled or unsubscribed due to to bounces? Why wouldn't it send the email to the owner? Please help. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] bounce message with non-members
What does this message mean in the bounce log? bounce message with non-members of ... I have a separate list for a customer with aol addresses because of their very strict rules, but it appears that the bounces for that list are going to another lists and I'm getting these non-member messages. I've checked the alias for bounces and it's correct: AOLlist-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces AOLlist ???any ideas? Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Changing MM variables
It appears that my predecessor in this position set up a list with a different MM-Posting-Addr from what it should be. Is there any way for me to change this? Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Changing MM variables
It appears that my predecessor in this position set up a list with a different MM-Posting-Addr from what it should be. Is there any way for me to change this? Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting unsubscribes notifications despite settings
I think what you are looking for is in the bounce processing section of the admin tool. Scroll down to notifications. Do you see what you need. Those 3 options are set to no for me, and I'm still getting notifications. Anne On Mar 1, 2004, at 10:57 PM, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: If you figure it out - I think I have the same settings and WANT to get the notifications and am not. (Mailman on hosting companies server so I cannot check all those variables.) SO, if you do a screen print (or pdf) of all the variables pers screen and I compare them to mine - maybe I can figure out an answer for both of us. Or I could do a screen print and send the pdf's to you - either way. From: Anne Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:19:33 -0500 Subject: [Mailman-Users] Getting unsubscribes notifications despite settings I'm having problems with a list that I just moved from one server to another. I tarred and zipped up the entire mailman directory (preserving permissions) and moved it onto a new server. I've done this before without incident. Since then, it hasn't been behaving as configured. Last time we sent a list, a member responded and even though the user moderator bit was checked/on, the mail was not held--it went straight through to everyone. I removed the list, recreated it, then re-configured it, and am still having problems. Now even though mailman is not set to notify admin for unsubscribes (regular or bounce) the owner is still getting notifications. The notifications are coming from these addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are some of the config variables: anonymous_list = 0 first_strip_reply_to = 0 reply_goes_to_list = 0 umbrella_list = 0 umbrella_member_suffix = '-owner' send_reminders = 0 send_welcome_msg = 0 send_goodbye_msg = 0 admin_immed_notify = 0 admin_notify_mchanges = 0 respond_to_post_requests = 1 emergency = 0 new_member_options = 0 subscribe_policy = 1 unsubscribe_policy = 0 default_member_moderation = 1 member_moderation_action = 0 generic_nonmember_action = 1 forward_auto_discards = 1 require_explicit_destination = 1 bounce_processing = 1 bounce_score_threshold = 1.0 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0 bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner = 0 bounce_notify_owner_on_disable = 0 bounce_notify_owner_on_removal = 0 I'm at a loss as to what might be wrong. Please help. We haven't tried out another list because we want to be sure everything is working correctly first. Thanks, Anne Ramey Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. Anne Ramey Network Administrator Blast Internet Services 919-545-2521 (800)-24-BLAST http://www.blast.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Getting unsubscribes notifications despite settings
I'm having problems with a list that I just moved from one server to another. I tarred and zipped up the entire mailman directory (preserving permissions) and moved it onto a new server. I've done this before without incident. Since then, it hasn't been behaving as configured. Last time we sent a list, a member responded and even though the user moderator bit was checked/on, the mail was not held--it went straight through to everyone. I removed the list, recreated it, then re-configured it, and am still having problems. Now even though mailman is not set to notify admin for unsubscribes (regular or bounce) the owner is still getting notifications. The notifications are coming from these addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are some of the config variables: anonymous_list = 0 first_strip_reply_to = 0 reply_goes_to_list = 0 umbrella_list = 0 umbrella_member_suffix = '-owner' send_reminders = 0 send_welcome_msg = 0 send_goodbye_msg = 0 admin_immed_notify = 0 admin_notify_mchanges = 0 respond_to_post_requests = 1 emergency = 0 new_member_options = 0 subscribe_policy = 1 unsubscribe_policy = 0 default_member_moderation = 1 member_moderation_action = 0 generic_nonmember_action = 1 forward_auto_discards = 1 require_explicit_destination = 1 bounce_processing = 1 bounce_score_threshold = 1.0 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0 bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner = 0 bounce_notify_owner_on_disable = 0 bounce_notify_owner_on_removal = 0 I'm at a loss as to what might be wrong. Please help. We haven't tried out another list because we want to be sure everything is working correctly first. Thanks, Anne Ramey -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
