Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator list pending
It was answered by Mark Sapiro. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2017-July/082302.html Bryan On 9 July 2017 at 05:37, Ralph Johnson <johnso...@uwclub.net> wrote: > HI > > Nobody has come up with an answer to my query about how to stop the daily > messages " Moderator request waiting your attention" when there is no > message in the pending moderator list. I have already deleted it. > > One thing that occurs to me is to generate a message myself and hope that > clearing it will also clear the phantom message. But how do I do this. > > Ralph > > > > ORIGINAL MESSAGE > > I am the administrator for a walking group and I received an email message > that there was a moderator request waiting for my attention. > > I went to "Tend to moderator requests" and deleted the message. > > I am still getting daily emails telling me that there is a message waiting > my attention, but there isn't. The offending message was deleted and no > longer appears in the Pending moderator requests list. > > How do I stop the daily emails. > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/carbonnb%40gmail.com -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbo...@gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bad Confirmation String to cancel Message that was too large.
On 3 April 2017 at 15:06, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 04/03/2017 12:57 PM, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: >> >> Thanks for trying to help me out Mark. I do appreciate it. > > > Some of my prior replies may have been misleading. I just did some more > detailed looking and here's some info. I've got new tools to help manage my Mailman install, so even if they were misleading, it's all good. > First, when a held message is handled via the admindb interface > (approved, discarded, rejected) the entry in the pending db is not > removed. This is probably why you have entries in the pending db that > aren't in the admindb interface. OK, that makes sense. > The other side of this is if the user goes to the confirm URL and clicks > "Continue awaiting approval", the entry in the pending db is removed so > if the user goes back a second time, she gets the invalid confirmation > string message. > > This can explain why there is a held message not in the pending db. > > This can obviously come about from the user clicking "Continue awaiting > approval" and then going back, but conceivably it can happen if the user > "stutters" on the mouse and clicks more than once and possibly clicks on > the "Continue awaiting approval" button without really seeing that page. I've gone back to the user and asked them. So for now, I'm going to wait and see what they have to say. B -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbo...@gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bad Confirmation String to cancel Message that was too large.
On 3 April 2017 at 12:01, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 04/03/2017 11:36 AM, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: >> I don't see the confirmation string in the list's db even though I >> still see the email in held moderation queue. > > > Did you give the '-m' option to the script. Without it, you won't see > held messages. Yes. (Down to 5 now) $ ./list_pending -m -v dba-ot cookie: e218b075f231a8aceeeae3bc9bb301b4328b0d79 type: H data: 5640 expiration: Thu Apr 6 06:56:58 2017 cookie: 628801c2354da0f1472f6a20a7fbe9e32f8dff48 type: H data: 5637 expiration: Wed Apr 5 14:01:54 2017 cookie: b63c013faa69b2d37d3d1c53580294a8fe3ed669 type: H data: 5635 expiration: Mon Apr 3 23:46:25 2017 cookie: 20ea7168e15b739d8b56b8a68057c86f6fdf11ff type: H data: 5636 expiration: Wed Apr 5 06:23:30 2017 cookie: 10f908cac1d37bc935d215bcb51f74421b5cb236 type: H data: 5638 expiration: Wed Apr 5 17:43:59 2017 >> It's actually weird. There are 6 messages that are held in the db, but >> only 2 in the moderation queue > > Perhaps the admindb interface is not for the current mailman installation? AFAIK it's the only Mailman installation on the server. I've been the only one who has done anything on this server in a long time (but that doesn't mean I haven't messed something up :). > If you run the list_requests script from > <https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/list_requests> with the -l LISTNAME and > -v options, does it correlate with the admindb list? Yes. Both only have 2 messages. $ ./list_requests -l dba-ot 2 dba-OT moderator request(s) waiting Pending posts: From: ept...@gmail.com on Mon Apr 3 04:42:48 2017 Subject: Re: [dba-OT] Turmoil on the Home Front Cause: Message body is too big: 27563 bytes with a limit of 20 KB From: sshark...@gmail.com on Mon Apr 3 06:56:58 201v Subject: Re: [dba-OT] Turmoil on the Home Front (Redux) Cause: Message body is too big: 20749 bytes with a limit of 20 K $ ./list_requests -v 2 dba-OT moderator request(s) waiting Pending posts: From: ept...@gmail.com on Mon Apr 3 04:42:48 2017 Subject: Re: [dba-OT] Turmoil on the Home Front Cause: Message body is too big: 27563 bytes with a limit of 20 KB 5639 From: sshark...@gmail.com on Mon Apr 3 06:56:58 2017 Subject: Re: [dba-OT] Turmoil on the Home Front (Redux) Cause: Message body is too big: 20749 bytes with a limit of 20 KB 5640 > Do the IDs in that output correlate with those in the list_pending -m -v > output? Yes and no. One, 5640, is there. One, 5639, isn't and 5639 is the one that had the problem with the confirmation string. > Also, do the data/heldmsg-LISTNAME-ID.pck files correlate with the admindb. Yes. There are only 2 heldmsg-LISTNAME-ID.pck files The IDs correspond to the IDs after running ./list_request -v $ ls ../data/heldmsg-dba-ot-* ../data/heldmsg-dba-ot-5639.pck ../data/heldmsg-dba-ot-5640.pck > If there are discrepancies, are there any exceptions logged in Mailman's > error log? Nothing in the error log except a couple of invalid listname errors and an invalid arcive file request >> Is there anything else I can check, or should I write this one off as >> an anomoly? > > > If the message is in the admindb interface, it should be in the > pending.pck, at least if it's recent. Older messages could have had > their pending confirmations removed after PENDING_REQUEST_LIFE (default > 3 days). Thanks for trying to help me out Mark. I do appreciate it. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbo...@gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bad Confirmation String to cancel Message that was too large.
Thanks Mark. No Luck. :( Comments inline On 3 April 2017 at 10:59, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 04/03/2017 07:18 AM, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: >> I tried sending a large email to test and the confirmation string worked for >> me. >> The confirmation string from the email is: >> 93321f4b6ef46ce0148f5da147bda4c02a63f5c7 > > > The confirmation string is the token in the pending database for the > entry for this held message. There is a script at > <https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/list_pending> (mirrored at > <https://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/list_pending>) that can be used > to dump the pending database. I don't see the confirmation string in the list's db even though I still see the email in held moderation queue. It's actually weird. There are 6 messages that are held in the db, but only 2 in the moderation queue > One possibility is the user's MUA which is rendering the confirmation > URL as 'clickable' is not linking to the correct URL. > response that the string is actually the exact 40 character string from > the email. What happens if the user clicks "re-enter" in the "Otherwise, > re-enter your confirmation string." line and enters the exact 40 > character string from the email? There was no line wrapping that I could see. They forwarded the email to me, and when I click the link, it returns the 40 character string that isn't in the db. Is there anything else I can check, or should I write this one off as an anomoly? -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbo...@gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Bad Confirmation String to cancel Message that was too large.
Good Morning MMUsers, I have MM2.1.23 installed from sources on CentOS5. I have a list that has a max message size of 20kb to encourage plain text and trimming. Recently some users have been getting the notice that their message is too big, and when they click the link to cancel the post, the link returns a page with a "Bad Confirmation String" error. The latest was this morning. A user sent an email that was too big, and almost immediately click the link in the email they received and got the bad confirmation string. I tried sending a large email to test and the confirmation string worked for me. Looking in the vette log, I can see where the email was held, but I'm not sure where the confirmation string is coming from. This is the entry: Apr 03 04:42:48 2017 (548) dba-OT post from u...@gmail.com held, message-id=<caekqqpxmavpkoxk-3o1y16cff8cvvs-ry850nybpcy73u2n...@mail.gmail.com>: Message body is too big: 27563 bytes with a limit of 20 KB The confirmation string from the email is: 93321f4b6ef46ce0148f5da147bda4c02a63f5c7 Any ideas what to look at next to try and figure out why this is happening? This isn't the first time that users have reported that the confirmation strings didn't work. Thanks, Bryan -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbo...@gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing MTAs on Mailman box
Thanks Stephen & Mark. Mark, Sendmail uses the manually created Aliases to deliver to Mailman. But I think I'd rather have the integration with the aliases automatically created. I'm sure that I'll have further questions since this will be my first Postfix install, but I'll find a proper Postfix mailing list to ask the stupid Postfix questions. I'll reserve the stupid Mailman question for here ;) Thanks, Bryan On 21 November 2016 at 19:31, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 11/21/2016 03:47 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Bryan Carbonnell writes: >> >> > Is there anything on the Mailman side that I need to do after the >> > change? > > >> Mark S. may have further advice, but I'm sufficiently confident that I >> recommend that you just get started. :-) > > > The first question is how does your sendmail deliver to Mailman. The > "normal" configuration uses aliases which are maintained manually as > lists are created and deleted. > > If you have a set of Mailman aliases in, e.g., /etc/aliases, You may not > need to do anything and things may work fine, but it is also possible > you will get "group mismatch errors" from Mailman's mail wrapper. > > You can set up Mailman/Postfix integration. To do that, you should do > the generic Postfix things at > <http://list.org/mailman-install/node12.html> and the integration > specific things at > <http://list.org/mailman-install/postfix-integration.html>. > > In addition if you have lists in Postfix virtual domains you need to do > the things in <http://list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html>. > > But you can ignore all that and continue to do aliases as you've done > for Sendmail. > > If you have further questions, pleas tell us how Sendmail is currently > delivering to Mailman, and if via aliases, how those are generated. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net>The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/carbonnb%40gmail.com -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbo...@gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Changing MTAs on Mailman box
Hi All, I am looking at changing our MTA from Sendmail to Postfix. The physical box is staying the same, nothing is changing other than the MTA on the box. Is there anything on the Mailman side that I need to do after the change? I looked at the Postfix integration section in the installation manual, http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-integration.html and am just a bit unsure if these are the steps to take since this is an existing Mailman installation. Thanks for an pointers. Bryan -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbo...@gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?
On Apr 5, 2015 7:27 PM, David Andrews dandr...@visi.com wrote: At 02:48 PM 4/2/2015, Andrew Stuart wrote: What’s on your wishlist for the perfect Mailman web interface? If you can provide links to show where your ideas are done well that would help to illustrate your thoughts. Any killer features that you’d like to see in the perfect Mailman web interface? A reminder that any web UI, whether end user, or administrator, needs to be accessible to disabled persons -- preferably it will use the WCAG 2.0 AA standards. +1 Bryan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Content Filtering Question
I am running 2.1.14 currently, and was wondering is there a way to filter emails based on the content of the body? I see different ways to filter based on headers, but not the actual content of the body. Basically I'm trying to filter mail to lists that have inappropriate language in them. I'm not adverse to upgrading if the newer versions have that capability. Thanks, -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbo...@gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming List
On 10/18/07, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Carbonnell wrote: I'm just looking for pros and cons to help me decide. I'm leaning towards creating a new list and migrating the users. If all you want to do is change the name of the list, I would always do this by renaming (or copying) the lists/oldname directory as that preserves the list settings and the member options which isn't done if you create a new list and add the old members. Ah I hadn't considered the members settings. Good thing I asked. It looks like I'll be renaming the old list. Thanks for this, and all the help you provide on the list Mark. I've learned a ton from reading your posts. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Renaming List
Good day folks, I would like some opinions. I am planning on renaming one of my existing lists and I'm trying to decide if I am better off creating a new list with the new name and migrating the users to it, or following the steps in the FAQ (4.70) for renaming the list. I do have full root access to do this, so that's not an issue. I'm just looking for pros and cons to help me decide. I'm leaning towards creating a new list and migrating the users. Thanks for your input. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Available Mlist properties
On 10/12/07, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Carbonnell wrote: I'm not sure if this should be here or dev, but I'll start here. This is something I've been thinking about for a while and finally decided to ask Quite often solutions to problems posted here involve using code like: def show_reminders(mlist): if mlist.send_reminders: with the wth_list script. Is there a list of properties for the mlist object anywhere? If not, where in the code do I need to go hunting for this info? Most of them (but not all) are visible and documented in the web admin interface. To see the full list do bin/dumpdb lists/listname/config.pck (it's best to do this on a list with few members). If you see an attribute in this output, and don't understand what it is, start with grep -r attribute_name Mailman/* Thanks Mark. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Available Mlist properties
I'm not sure if this should be here or dev, but I'll start here. This is something I've been thinking about for a while and finally decided to ask Quite often solutions to problems posted here involve using code like: def show_reminders(mlist): if mlist.send_reminders: with the wth_list script. Is there a list of properties for the mlist object anywhere? If not, where in the code do I need to go hunting for this info? Thanks, -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not delivering messages
On 9/9/07, dario luzzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, I recently installed mailman 2.1.9 and postfix on a debian machine. I'm having problems in getting it to work as I'm a newbie but hope someone can help :-) I tried searching for a solution on various documents but now I'm more confused than before please let me know if you need more information What is your problem? I saw a GMail Message id. Is it that the e-mail isn't coming back to a GMail account? If so, have a look at: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.042.htp -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] 550 User Unknown when trying to post to mailman/sendmail list
On 8/1/07, Melick Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I setup mailman without any issues I think. I also have configured sendmail to work with mailman. I followed the directions by David Champion to integrate these two applications. I can telnet and my sendmail server seems to be responding fine as well as I can create email lists in the mailman web interface. Im confused at this point from the directions. I do not understand how mailman interacts with sendmail. I do not have anything in my virtusertable and my mm-handler is default. I have compiled my mailman.mc as sendmail.cf and put it in the working dir. How does mailman create the sendmail users or does it use an alias for all of the lists? All I get is unknown user when I try to send to my lists. Any help would be great Did you add the list aliases to the Sendmail alias file? If you did, did you run newaliases? I can't recall if you need to restart Sendmail for the new aliases to take effect, but I always do, so did you restart Sendmail? -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing Cross Posting
Thanks Mark for the good suggestions. I didn't think there was an easy solution besides the clue-by-four. I guess I be reading and contemplating a custom handler. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Preventing Cross Posting
Is there anyway to prevent posts from being cross posted across several lists on the same Mailman installation? I'm running into 2 situations that i'd like to prevent 1) Cross-posting with several list names in the to or cc headers 2) Individual identical messages sent separately to different lists Is this possible without resorting to a clue-by-four for the offending users? Nothing popped up in a FAQ and archive search. Thanks, -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] export list subscribers list
On 6/26/07, Sebastian Hagedorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On 26. Juni 2007 08:55:54 +0200 Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to export the subscribers list of a list to a text, csv or another file format? You can, but not via the webinterface: ./list_members listenname That's a feature that many of our listowners ask for. Fortunately there's an alternative that doesn't require my help: the e-mail interface. You can get a list of subscribers by sending a mail to listname-request with the text who listpassword But, IIRC, that won't give you the members that have set Conceal yourself from subscriber list? to Yes. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom verify.txt has Wrong Content-Type
On 6/21/07, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is not the normal way to handle a bilingual list. For discussion,
I know it's not the normal way to do things. I like to do things the hard way :)
Actually I am trying to do away with access to the web interface
altogether for the end users. I am just talking about e-mail MIME
encoding only.
You can still make a list specific template in english in
$PREFIX/lists/list-name/en
and chinese in $PREFIX/lists/list-name/zh-CN if the default template
isn't suitable for the list.
Which I have done, with the english templates, by making them bilingual.
If you really want to make the english template bilingual and the
charset utf-8, you can change the charset for english. In general,
changing the charset can be problematic because the charset in which
the language messages and templates are encoded may not be compatible
with the new charset, but changing english to utf-8 should be OK as
utf-8 is a superset of the default us-ascii.
Hmmm, that hadn't occured to me. I may have to revisit this down the road then.
To make this specific change, put
add_language('en', 'English (USA)', 'utf-8')
in mm_cfg.py and restart Mailman.
Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Custom verify.txt has Wrong Content-Type
I have created a custom verify.txt for one of my lists, that is bilingual, English Chinese. It is in $PREFIX/lists/list-name/en It goes out just fine, but the MIME Content-Type is wrong for this file to be read properly. It has a charset of us-ascii. Is there anyway to change it to utf-8 easily or do I need to change the source code somewhere? -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Default Languages
On 6/10/07, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Sorry, brain cramp. The above patch won't quite do. It needs to be Thanks for all this Mark. Even after all this, I didn't test it. It seems that I can't touch the MM source code with this installation :( So I will have to work out a different way. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Default Languages
Is it possible to have the admin interface for a list in 1 language, English, and have the user interface a different language, French, using 2.1.6 or 2.1.9? The only thing I can come up with is to actually change the language of the list to French, and edit the translation file and remove the translations for the Admin interface so that it gets displayed in the default text, which is English. Is there an easier way to do this? -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Default Languages
On 6/8/07, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Carbonnell wrote: Is it possible to have the admin interface for a list in 1 language, English, and have the user interface a different language, French, using 2.1.6 or 2.1.9? The only thing I can come up with is to actually change the language of the list to French, and edit the translation file and remove the translations for the Admin interface so that it gets displayed in the default text, which is English. Is there an easier way to do this? I'm not sure if this is what you wan't, but you can set the list's default language to English, and make sure that French is an available language. Then users can set their preferred language to French. The tricky part is setting the default language for a new member to French. This would require implementing a new list attribute, e.g., default_member_language, or a really ugly hack to Mailman/MailList.py in the ApprovedAddMember() method. I don't want the user to have a choice in their default language. Here is the problem I have been running into, with the choice of English and French, when there user confirms their subscription, the confirmation page is in English, because that is the default. The user never gets a chance to see the confirmation in French. That is why I was looking for a way to have my cake and eat it too :) -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Default Languages
On 6/8/07, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Carbonnell wrote: I don't want the user to have a choice in their default language. Here is the problem I have been running into, with the choice of English and French, when there user confirms their subscription, the confirmation page is in English, because that is the default. The user never gets a chance to see the confirmation in French. To address the confirmation page, you could apply the following patch to Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py Thanks Mark, I'll give this a shot and report back -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting the FONT globally for the mailman GUI?
On 4/24/07, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1:30 PM -0700 4/24/07, Dragon wrote: Actually no, those are not the best way to do this IMO. If ALL of the web pages were template-based, it would be a simple matter of defining the CSS you want in a CSS file and adding it to the page header. Yup, that would be nice. I did write a patch a while back to make Mailman's UI XHTML compliant using CSS. The patch for 2.1.7 is sourceforge tracker # 1415956 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1415956group_id=103atid=300103 It also gives the UI the ability to have sitewide headers and footers, giving the UI the ability to look more the hosts site in general. Updting it to MM 2.1.9 is one of the many things on my TODO list. Hopefully soon as I want to get my site upgraded to 2.1.9 -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Legal Problem
On 7/28/06, Jason [WeatherServer] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why not just email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put the command who adminpassword mailman will mail back a list of all the names. That doesn't give you the addresses of the members who have been are hidden ie. set Conceal yourself from subscriber list? to yes in their options page) -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Anyone have a pickle / mbox to spare?
On 7/23/06, emf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would sincerely help me if I could test my UI against actual mailman pickles to make sure I can deal with vagaries of configuration, etc. I'd be happy to provide a script to randomize all users passwords before you sent it over, but would prefer that the email addresses stay valid. I don't need generated archive files; just list pickles and mbox files, if you've been generating them. I've got a 213MB mbox, and associated pickle although it's a public list. Just let me know where to send it. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Versions? Roadmap?
On 5/15/06, David Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: o corporate branding of Mailman pages. I have posted a patch,# 1415956, on Sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1415956group_id=103atid=300103 ) that allows you to use a site-wide header and footer to customise the web interface. I haven't upload the patch for V 2.1.8, but you can see what it looks like in practice on 2.1.7 at http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list
On 4/30/06, Tony G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over the last month or two I have been going over the headers myself and the headers on each copy of the mails are exactly the same: same Received path and time stamps, and same Message-ID (!!). The only pattern between what generates dupes and what does not is that the list address is in the CC of duped mails - but only on that list, not in this mailman-users list. :( Please allow me a few days to pursue the MTA route and I'll post a note here to let you know if I find anything. Based on your comments and info from the other list I'm fairly convinced that I shouldn't be wasting any more of your collective time. But I will let you know what I find out. Thank you kindly for your dedicated interest. I haven't been following this thread too carefully, but a couple of things clicked together based on some duplicate issues I've seen with my users. Just to recap the details as I recall them 1) You are the only one seeing the duplicate e-mails 2) You are using Outlook. 3) Duplicate e-mails are idendical down to the header level. 4) Only happens on 1 list. 5) Only happens when the list is in the CC header. If all the above are correct, check your Outlook rules. Outlook may be the cause of the duplicates. I've spent a TON of time trying to diagnose this for one user and it turned out it was her Outlook rules that caused the duplicate. I don't use Outlook myself, but try disabling the rule for a while and see if the duplicates still happen. If not, then recreate the rule. I know this isn't Mailman related, but I think that this may be a good cause for the archive. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Log analysis
On 3/2/06, Roger Favero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's my first post in this mailing list. I'm looking fot a tool (a simple script, or something like it) to analyse the mailman log in order to know the volume of the work managed by mailman for each list configured in it (how many post per day, how many new subscrive, etc...). Is there something that could help me? Have a look at the MMDSR script at Sourceforge in the files section, IIRC. It sounds like this is a perfect fit for what you need. I'd give you the URL, but I can't get to Sourceforge at teh moment. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] add_members
On 2/28/06, Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Hansen wrote: Thank you for clarifying, Mark. I do not yet have the knowledge to fix it, thus my comment. I do appreciate the fix, though, because a number of my subscribers do want to be subscribed inactive from a second address that they use for posts (and they don't want duplicates). So I'll use your version. End original message. - So why not add them to the list of approved posters? It's under accept_these_nonmembers on the Privacy options, Send filters page. That's what I do when somebody wants to be able to post from a non-subscribed address. It's clean and easy. By doing it that way, it's extra work for the list admin. When folks on my lists want to post for different accounts I give them instructions on how to sub that address and then postpone that subscription. it puts the onus on the onus on the user to make sure they post from legitimate accounts. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] add_members
On 2/28/06, Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I still don't understand the real issue here nor exactly how this would be setup. It sounds like more time will be expended setting this up than it would take to actually add a bunch of people to the non-member accept list. It depends on who's time you consider more valuable. You the admin trying to take care of the lists, possibly the mailman install or even the actual server. It takes me all of a minute to add somebody to that list and it is rare that I even get a request to do it. I can only see that becoming a real time issue on huge lists with lots of people who want to post from an alternate address. In my case, this is extremely unlikely to happen so I go with the simpler approach. For me the issue is time. If someone wants to post from an alternate address, I have stock text that I copy paste into an e-mail and hit send. I can post the text of the e-mail later this evening if you'd like. It details the steps the user has to take to subscribe themselves from a second address and then postpone it. If I added them manually, then I would have to add them, change their address when it changes, and it does, and remove them when they no longer want to post from that address. I also then have to let the other admins know what is going on in case I get hit by a truck. Much easier to have the user do it themselves. I also believe there would be a performance hit on the server (just an assumption nothing I've ever tested) because of having to check the non-member accept list, especially if it gets large. I don't know if the performace hit is even an issue, but it's something to consider. I probably got about 3 or 4 requests a month when I first took over the admin of the lists, now it's down to 1 every few months, since most of the users now know how to do it themselves. I actually see unsubs and resubs from different addresses for the same user on a fairly regular basis, so I know that the requests would stay high for this kind of thing if I hadn't educated the users on how to do it themselves. Granted the lists I administer are populated by extremely tech savy users (MS Access developers list is the main one) so that probably doesn't hurt. Having said all that, your approach works well for you and mine works well for me. 2 different ways to accomplish the same goal. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to delete lists ?
On 15/02/06, Steven Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other option is to get webmin with a mailman plugin, this makes creating a list extreamely easy, and also deleting thembit dangerous Be careful with the Webmin plugin for Mailman. There is one that will not only delete your list(s) but it will also delete *ALL* your Sendmail aliases. That only took me 2 days to figure out :( -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Templates: Continued
On 30/01/06, Jeff Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone point me to the Python module that Pipermail uses to take templates and render HTML message archives? $PREFIX/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] MMDSR was Re: any info on this reported exploit?
On 26/01/06, Tokio Kikuchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Knowls' Daily Status Report should help in this respect. I really want to rewrite it in python and include in the official cron jobs (if I had enough time before the next release of mailman 2.2). Tokio, I'll take a stab at rewriting it in Python. I can't promise anything, but I'll take a shot at it. I'm no expert Python coder, aw who's kidding who, I've just started to learn Python, but I'll give it a go. Give you time to work on Mailman 2.2. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine List Bandwidth
On 22/01/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, is there someplace on Sourceforge that I can post this, so that everyone can enjoy it too? You can post it to the Mailman patches tracker. See I have now posted this file to the patch tracker [ 1415961 ] List bandwidth monitor https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1415961group_id=103atid=300103 -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Sitewide headers/footers XHTML Compliant Web UI
i have just uploaded a patch to Sourforge that allows you to set sitewide headers and footers for the Mailman 2.1.7 web UI, [ 1415956 ] Sitewide headers/footers XHTML Compliant Web UI This patch was borne out of a request I received to make the Mailman UI fit the look of the web site. This patch allows you to set a site wide header and footer. This allows you to pretty much make the MM UI look like any other site. While I was at it I also made the web UI XHTML compliant. Once you patch your source and install it, all you need to do is edit the html files in the templates/en directory. Most of the pages will get the header and footers from the site-header.html and site-footer.html files, but some of the HTML files already contain theor own header/footer so you will need ot edit some of these files as well. Since this also adds XHTML compliance, this superceeds patch #116035 You can dowload it (and a separate version that works with the ht://dig integration patches) from: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1415956group_id=103atid=300103 You can see in use at http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] i18n Question
I have created a patch for MM 2.1.7 that will allow MM to have your main site's headers/footers so that everything across the site has a consistant look. This is an extension of #1160353 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1160353group_id=103atid=300103 You can see the patch in use at http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo I will be posting to sourceforge soon, but I'd like to know what it would take to make sure that it works for the languages that come preinstalled with MM. I've modified a lot of the hard coded text in the py files and most of the html files in the templates/en directory. What files, besides the html files in the templates/lang/ directories will I need to modify? Just the .po file and follow the instructions in the README-I18.en file in the source root? Would this question be more appropriate on the 18n or developers list? Thanks, -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine List Bandwidth
On 22/01/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Carbonnell Again, let me know if you see any way this can be improved. I haven't looked in great detail, but here are some random thoughts I have on the subject for your consideration. If you rotate logs on your system, you may need to concatenate the two most recent logs to be sure you have all the info for one day. Good point. Hadn't thought of that, but surely would have been bitten :) If you have digest members, you may or may not be concerned that the digest may not be sent until the 'next day'. Also, if a post is At this point, I'm not. I'm just after a ballpark, so I can convince the powers that be to drop the Max message size for a specific list I maintain. Not enough snipping and too much top posting :( scrubbed for the digest, it may be significantly smaller than the size in the post log. So if I understand what you just wrote, the size in the post log is what comes to Mailman before it gets scrubbed? You could match message id's from the post log with the smtp log to get the exact number of recipients without counting members, but this will only get the message recipients, not digest. You can see digests in the smtp log, but not how big or even for what list Hmm sounds like too much work for what I need the info for :) Also, is there someplace on Sourceforge that I can post this, so that everyone can enjoy it too? You can post it to the Mailman patches tracker. See http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1123383group_id=103atid=300103 for an example of a different script with a different purpose to see how this works. Thanks, I will eventually put it up there. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine List Bandwidth
On 22/01/06, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 1:27 PM -0500 2006-01-22, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: Is there any facility within Mailman to determine the bandwidth used by a specific list? Since there is no inbuilt way to do this with Mailman, I wrote a Python script to parse the POST log and take the size of the posts to a specific list and then multiply that by the number of active subscribers at the time this script was run. Thinking about this some more, this sounds kind of like what I'm doing with the MailMan Daily Status Report (mmdsr) script, which you can find at Actually your script gave me the idea that it may be possible. I'm working to get this included in the contrib/ directory of Mailman, so that everyone will get a copy of it with the tarball, as opposed to having to download it separately. Hopefully it'll be there with v2.1.8. It's a great script. Of course, my stuff is written in Bourne shell and not Python, but there might be some stuff there that you find useful. I recommend you check it out and see what you think. I'm using it now and its working wonders. The only thing I have noticed was when I rotated the logs, the e-mailed results would all be 0 or empty depending on if it was supposed to be a string or a numeric. It takes a restart of Mailman to get the stats going again. If you find anything useful and that you want to incorporate into your tool, I would ask that you please let me know, although that isn't required according to the terms of the BSD-style license that I use. I used your idea that the script can e-mail the results. I looked at what you did and then figured out how to send an e-mail via Python. If you've got stuff that you think I might find interesting, I'd appreciate getting more information from you on the kind of output you think is useful and how you're creating it. Will do. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine List Bandwidth
On 23/01/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Carbonnell wrote: So if I understand what you just wrote, the size in the post log is what comes to Mailman before it gets scrubbed? No. The size in the post log is the actual size of what is sent out to message subscribers including all headers and attachments included in the message. If scrub_nondigest is true, this will be the size of the scrubbed message. My original remark that the message might be significantly smaller in the digest was based on scrub_nondigest being false so that the message subscribers received and the post log reflected a non-scrubbed message that was subsequently scrubbed for the digest. Ah OK. I'd never noticed that option before. For me it's a moot point anyway. No attachments go out to any of my lists. Everything except plain old text gets scrubbed. Thanks. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine List Bandwidth
On 21/01/06, Bryan Carbonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 19/01/06, Bryan Carbonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any facility within Mailman to determine the bandwidth used
by a specific list?
Since there is no inbuilt way to do this with Mailman, I wrote a
Python script to parse the POST log and take the size of the posts to
a specific list and then multiply that by the number of active
subscribers at the time this script was run.
This gets the stats from the day before the script is run.
I also said that I would let everyone know if I found a way to do it,
here is the script.
Keep in mind that I don't know Python (I spent an awful lot of time
googling and read Python Docs :)
This is an updated version, which now includes that facility to e-mail
the results.
I have also tried it on my server and it works fine for me. I think
that some of the commands or modules require Python 2.3 or higher.
I have set it up as a cron job, so tomorrow will be the really big
test. If I get an e-mail with the stats, then I know my first Python
program really does work :-)
Again, let me know if you see any way this can be improved.
Also, is there someplace on Sourceforge that I can post this, so that
everyone can enjoy it too?
#!/usr/local/bin/python
import os
import re
import datetime
import commands
import smtplib
from email.MIMEText import MIMEText
# Full path to the post log file
FILE = '/var/log/mailman/post'
# The list of interest
LISTNAME = 'LISTNAME'
# E-Mail Address of sender of e-mail
SENDER = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RECPTS = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Prefix of the Mailman Installation
PREFIX = '/var/mailman'
# No changes should be required below here
# Setup some default values
n = 0
bw = 0
# Get yesterdays date
yesterday = datetime.datetime.today() - datetime.timedelta(days=1)
# check for existence of file
if os.path.exists(FILE):
# open file if it exists
input = open(FILE, 'r')
#Loop through file line by line
for line in input:
# Check to see if we are on a record from yesterday
restr = yesterday.strftime(%b %d ) + \d\d:\d\d:\d\d \
+ yesterday.strftime( %Y)
if re.findall(r'%s' % restr, line):
# Check to see if the listname is in the line
if re.findall(r'%s' % LISTNAME, line):
ret = re.findall(r'size=\d*', line)
ret2 = re.findall(r'\d*', ret[0])
bw = bw + long(ret2[5])
n = n + 1
# Now check and see how many members are subscribed to the listi
membs = 0
op = commands.getoutput('%s/bin/list_members %s' % (PREFIX, LISTNAME))
for line in op.splitlines():
membs = membs + 1
# Now count mebers that are set to nomail
membn = 0
op = commands.getoutput('%s/bin/list_members --nomail %s' % (PREFIX,LISTNAME))
for line in op.splitlines():
membn = membn + 1
# Now calculate members that are receiving mail
membt = membs - membn
# Now calculate the bandwidth
tbw = bw * membt
# Now lets send an e-mail
# Build the body text
msg = '%s posts to %s on %s\n' %(n, LISTNAME, yesterday.strftime('%b %d, %Y'))
msg = msg + '%s bytes received\n' % bw
msg = msg + '%s members subscribed\n' % membs
msg = msg + '%s members receiving list mail\n' % membt
msg = msg + Approximately %s bytes sent\n % tbw
msgMIME = MIMEText(msg)
msgMIME['Subject'] = 'Bandwidth of %s - %s' % (LISTNAME,
yesterday.strftime('%b %d, %Y'))
msgMIME['From'] = SENDER
msgMIME['To'] = RECPTS
# Send the message via our own SMTP server, but don't include the
# envelope header.
s = smtplib.SMTP()
s.connect()
s.sendmail(SENDER, RECPTS, msgMIME.as_string())
s.close()
else:
print log file not found
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing List not receiving emails
On 21 Jan 2006 at 10:35, Neilrey Espino wrote: I have created a list called group-mailman I sent some invites and people responded and now have 10 members. But when they try to send a message they got the following error messages : The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. I verified with netstat -na port 25 is indeed open What else can I possibly look into ? Did you add the aliases to your alias file? Also look in the FAQ at Article 1.7 http://www.python.org/cgi- bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.007.htp -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've learned That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself with people smarter than I am. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine List Bandwidth
On 19/01/06, Bryan Carbonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any facility within Mailman to determine the bandwidth used
by a specific list?
Since there is no inbuilt way to do this with Mailman, I wrote a
Python script to parse the POST log and take the size of the posts to
a specific list and then multiply that by the number of active
subscribers at the time this script was run.
This gets the stats from the day before the script is run.
I also said that I would let everyone know if I found a way to do it,
here is the script.
Keep in mind that I don't know Python (I spent an awful lot of time
googling and read Python Docs :) That and I haven't actually tried
this on my live server, just a backup of the post log file.
Let me know if you see anything that can be improved.
#!/usr/local/bin/python
import os
import re
import datetime
import commands
# Full path to the post log file
FILE = '/full/path/to/post'
# The list of interest
LISTNAME = 'listname'
n = 0
bw = 0
# Get yesterdays date
yesterday = datetime.datetime.today() - datetime.timedelta(days=1)
# check for existence of file
if os.path.exists(FILE):
# open file if it exists
input = open(FILE, 'r')
#Loop through file line by line
for line in input:
# Check to see if we are on a record from yesterday
restr = yesterday.strftime(%b %d ) + \d\d:\d\d:\d\d \
+ yesterday.strftime( %Y)
if re.findall(r'%s' % restr, line):
# Check to see if the listname is in the line
# Check to see if the listname is in the line
if re.findall(r'%s' % LISTNAME, line):
ret = re.findall(r'size=\d*', line)
ret2 = re.findall(r'\d*', ret[0])
bw = bw + long(ret2[5])
n = n + 1
print n, 'posts to %s yesterday' % LISTNAME
print bw, ' bytes received'
# Now check and see how many members are subscribed to the listi
memb = 0
op = commands.getoutput('/var/mailman/bin/list_members %s' % LISTNAME)
#print op
for line in op.splitlines():
memb = memb + 1
print memb, members subscribed
# Now get rid of the mebers that are set to nomail
op = commands.getoutput('/var/mailman/bin/list_members --nomail %s'
% LISTNAME)
for line in op.splitlines():
memb = memb - 1
print memb, members receiving list mail
# Now calculate the bandwidth
tbw = bw * memb
print Approximately , tbw, bytes sent
else:
print log file not found
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[Mailman-Users] Determine List Bandwidth
Is there any facility within Mailman to determine the bandwidth used by a specific list? If not, is there a way to do it using Sendmail? Thanks, -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Determine List Bandwidth
On 19/01/06, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:50 PM -0500 2006-01-19, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: Is there any facility within Mailman to determine the bandwidth used by a specific list? No. This is closely related to the Mailman FAQ Wizard entries at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.051.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq01.030.htp. If not, is there a way to do it using Sendmail? There's a certain amount that you can do with log processing tools like lire (see logreport.org), or the kinds of tools that I used to use and maintain about ten years ago (see http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/sendmail/index.html), but I am not personally aware of anything that would seem to fill the gap you seem to be looking for. If you find something, please let us know. Thanks Brad. It looks like I've got some reading and surfing to do. If I find anything that fits the bill, I'll let everyone know. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] (Beer) problem accessing the archive (403)
On 16/01/06, Scriber, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have completed the installation and everything seems to be working perfectly... except being able to access the archives for my lists. I have searched the archives and it seems like many people have had this problem in the past, but the solutions which seem to have worked for them do not appear to be solving my configuration issues. This is the error message I'm receiving: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /pipermail/is_pmc_interest/ on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. snip Has anyone else run across this problem and solved it? Getting to the archives is my primary objective, but I'm curious about the third line in the error page as well. Ideas? If you're anwhere near the Denver area I'd be happy to thank you for your help (beer). Have a look at the warning box at http://list.org/mailman-install/node9.html There are some permission issues that may be affecting the installation. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello and newbie question(s)
On 14/01/06, J. Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and running (though empty). Problem is, I'd like to set the same bounce processing variables for each list, without having to go into the web interface to each individually (a huge time killer). Is there anyway to do this kind of work globally via the command line? Here are the configurations I would like to try and do all at one time, and I was wondering not only how to type the command, but also how to enter the values (whether integer or Yes/No): I use a shell script with a config file to do things like this. The shell scripts (mm_cfg_change) is: #!/bin/bash # To use this script, change the variable in mm_cfg_change.dat to the # variable you want changes and the new value you want to assign it for i in $( /var/mailman/bin/list_lists -b); do /var/mailman/bin/config_list -i ./mm_cfg_change.dat $i done and the config file mm_cfg_change.dat hold a single line with the variable and value: max_days_to_hold=2 Then all you have to do is change the .dat file and not worry about messing up the shell script. To run the changes just use ./mm_cfg_change and away it goes. Also, I have yet to import email addresses into these 120 individual lists. I have, however, separated all the lists into individual text files (countyX.txt, countyY.txt, etc.) Is there a way (again) to do this import via the command line (thus bypassing the web interface?) I would imagine that this could be done in a similar fashion, but I've nver done this before so ican't offer any advice. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] poster receives copy of post
On 06/01/06, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can I configure it so the poster receives a copy of the post? I am using version 2.1.5. If the post is using GMail, then they won't see a copy even if one os delivered. GMail does something with the incoming e-mail and if they sent it, it won't show the received one. I believe there are other services that do this as well. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Logging Archive Creation in MM2.1.7
On 03/01/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: I intend to develop a proper fix within a day or two. As soon as I can get a grasp on what 2.1.7 change is causing this changed behavior. Please go to https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1395683group_id=103atid=100103 and download and try the HyperArch.patch id 161935. I think this patch should completely fix the problem. I gave the patch a whirl this morning, and all looks good. Thanks again Mark. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about ban_list...
On 3 Jan 2006 at 21:45, Glenn Sieb wrote: Ok--then I guess on my 2.1.5 server, the moderators must have added people, without thinking, using the web interface--I'll have to upgrade to 2.1.7 as soon as I see the ht://dig patches come out! I applied the ht://dig patches to 2.1.7 on my test box with no problems. IIRC there were just a few ofsets for a few hunks. So it appears to apply cleanly. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Logging Archive Creation in MM2.1.7
Does Mailman log anything when you try and rebuild the archive from
the commandline?
The reason I am asking is that I have just installed MM2.1.7 on a test
box and tried to rebuild the archive and I get an error with every
archive I try and rebuild and I would like to try and track down what
is causing the error.
The error I get is:
Pickling archive state into /var/mailman/archives/private/dba-vb/pipermail.pck
Traceback (most recent call last):
File ./bin/arch, line 200, in ?
main()
File ./bin/arch, line 188, in main
archiver.processUnixMailbox(fp, start, end)
File /var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 585, in
processUnixMailbox
self.add_article(a)
File /var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 626, in add_article
filename))
File /var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py, line 1116, in write_article
f.write(article.as_text())
File /var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py, line 579, in as_text
'\g1' + _(' at ') + '\g2', body)
File /usr/local/lib/python2.3/sre.py, line 143, in sub
return _compile(pattern, 0).sub(repl, string, count)
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xa3 in position
2025: ordinal not in range(128)
I have looked through the mbox file and all the ascii characters
greater than 128 are in the body of the e-mails. The 2 characters that
i can find are the British Pound sign and what appears to be a MS
smart single quote.
I even brought the mbox over to my Windows box (I only know how to
read a text file in a windows environment) and examined each character
individually and didn't find any invalid characters in the headers.
Can anyone help me try and debug this?
Thanks,
--
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preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Logging Archive Creation in MM2.1.7
On 02/01/06, Bryan Carbonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Mailman log anything when you try and rebuild the archive from the commandline? I have looked through the mbox file and all the ascii characters greater than 128 are in the body of the e-mails. The 2 characters that i can find are the British Pound sign and what appears to be a MS smart single quote. I even brought the mbox over to my Windows box (I only know how to read a text file in a windows environment) and examined each character individually and didn't find any invalid characters in the headers. Can anyone help me try and debug this? Whoops, should have added that i get the error using Python 2.3.5 and just upgraded 2.4.2 on a RedHat Linux 7.3 box. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Logging Archive Creation in MM2.1.7
On 02/01/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Carbonnell wrote: The error I get is: snip UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xa3 in position 2025: ordinal not in range(128) I have looked through the mbox file and all the ascii characters greater than 128 are in the body of the e-mails. The 2 characters that i can find are the British Pound sign and what appears to be a MS smart single quote. The problem occurs when the archiver tries to obscure email addresses in the body of a post (read from the .mbox file with bin/arch or presumably, a new post being archived too) before adding it to the monthly .txt file, and the body of the post contains a non-ascii character or characters. See https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1395683group_id=103atid=100103 for another report and a patch that can be applied to allow rebuilding of the archive. The patch in the above report will not actually fix the problem as the rebuilt archive will not have email addresses obscured in the .txt files in the bodies of those posts with non-ascii characters. Also the problem doesn't occur if ARCHIVER_OBSCURES_EMAILADDRS = No in mm_cfg.py. So, let me just see if I have this right, this error only happens when I rebuild the archive? Will it happen when new posts are sent to the list, and therefore archived? I don't rebuild archives often, it's just one of the things I do when I'm testing out a new version. I'm not really sure if I want to deploy this version if it doesn't obscure the addresses in the archives. I understand that it's just the .txt files and not the HTML files, but I'm not sure if I want to expose my users to a possible spam harvesting goldmine. Thanks though Mark. I do appreciate the quick response. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] 403 Forbidden - You don't have permission to access /pipermail/
On 07/12/05, Andrew Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have discovered that our mailman installation returns a 403 Forbidden error when trying to access archives from the web pages. The links all point, correctly, to http://airedale.cnet.org/pipermail/list_name Accessing that URL returns a message stating: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /pipermail/list_name on this server. If I, instead, access the URL http://airedale.cnet.org/pipermail/ a directory listing is displayed showing the archive files by name. I have checked that the archives are set to be public. Is there a setting I need to add to a configuration somewhere that someone can point me to? I have seen a similar question posed in the list archives but not seen any pointer to a solution. Check the directory permissions. Full details can be found at http://list.org/mailman-install/node9.html in the Warning box. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin Password
On 10/11/05, Thomas Spuhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 10 November 2005 01:42 am, Stefan Henrico wrote: Hi guys Is there any way for me to retrieve my admin password? I was under the impression that I do know the password as I created a list not too long ago, but alas.. :) mmsitepass would give you the ste password. Actually mmsitepass SETS the site password. So Stefan, if you have command line access, you can use the mmsitepass command to set a new site password. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved Headers
On 19/10/05, Jeanne Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much. You have cleared up a lot of things. Can you recommend a Windows Friendly MUA that does allow one to add a custom header? Pegasus Mail. http://www.pmail.com. AFAIC, it's the best windows MUA. And the best part, it's free. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Public Archives 403 Forbidden after Upgrade - More Info
I have recently upgraded to MM 2.1.6 with the HTDig integration patches. I have noticed that since this upgrade that my public archives are inaccessible, I get a 403 Forbidden Error. I am running MM2.1..6 built from the tarball, Apache 1.3.27 and Python 2.3.4. on RedHat 7.3 (thats what the host supplies) Mailamn was configured with the following commande: ./configure --prefix=/var/mailman --with- python=/usr/local/bin/python --with-cgi-gid=apache --wit h-mail-gid=mail My Apache directives are: Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /var/mailman/archives/public/ Options +FollowSymLinks +Indexes /Directory The error in Apache's access_log is: xx.xx.xx.x - - [19/Sep/2005:10:12:30 -0500] GET /pipermail/accessd HTTP/1.1 403 304 - BROWSER ID STRING There is nothing that I can see in the MM error logs or in the messages log bin/check_perms shows no errors the permissions on the archives directories are: drwxrws--- 60 root mailman 4096 Sep 19 09:58 private drwxrwsr-x2 root mailman 4096 Sep 19 09:59 public and all the symlinks in public point to the right spot in the private archives. I can follow the symlinks from the command prompt as root or another user. If I create a symlink in the public directory to another file or directory in the file system, I can access those files/directories from my browser. I just can't get to the private archives. If I treat the archive as a private archive by going to: http://example.com/mailman/private/listname/ I can log in and access the archives. I have tried making the archive private and then making it public again and it doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas of what I can check next. I'm at a total loss as to what could be wrong not. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Give a man a fire, he will be warm for the evening. Set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Public Archives 403 Forbidden after Upgrade to 2.1.6
I have recently upgraded to MM 2.1.6 with the HTDig integration patches. I have noticed that since this upgrade that my public archives are inaccessible, I get a 403 Forbidden Error. I am running MM2.1..6 built from the tarball, Apache 1.3.27 and Python 2.3.4. Mailamn was configured with the following commande: ./configure --prefix=/var/mailman --with- python=/usr/local/bin/python --with-cgi-gid=apache --wit h-mail-gid=mail My Apache directives are: # # Configure Mailman's CGI scripts # From Mailman Users Archive # ScriptAlias /mailman/ /var/mailman/cgi-bin/ Directory /var/mailman/cgi-bin Options -Indexes -FollowSymLinks -Includes ExecCgi AllowOverride None Order deny,allow Allow from all /Directory # # Configure the public archives # Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /var/mailman/archives/public/ Options FollowSymlinks AllowOverride None Order deny,allow Allow from all /Directory The error in my Apache log is: 67.68.49.67 - - [15/Sep/2005:07:42:18 -0500] GET /pipermail/accessd/ HTTP/1.1 403 305 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en- US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 (No IDN) Firefox/1.0.6 There is nothing that I can see in the MM error logs. bin/check_perms shows no errors One thing is that if I treat the archive as a private archive by going to: http://example.com/mailman/private/listname/ I can log in and access the archives. I have tried making the archive private and then making it public again and it doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas of what I can check next. I'm at a total loss as to what could be wrong. Thanks for reading this far. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind - Dr.Seuss -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Fwd: GMAIL
Whoops, should have sentthis to the list as well. Bryan -- Forwarded message -- From: Bryan Carbonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09-Sep-2005 14:00 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] GMAIL To: scot condry [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 09/09/05, scot condry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is a repeat I havent been able to find a definitive answer on this through Google so I just joined this list. Does Mailman have issues with GMAIL? I am hosting two lists and when I send an email to the list from GMAIL it makes it to the archives on the list's web interface but never mails out to everyone. Emails from hotmail or other accounts seem to work fine. I run about 20 list with mailman and use my GMAIL account all the time with them. I can send to the lists and receive from the lists with my GMail account. This is coming from my GMail account too. What you might be seeing is Google doesn't show you the incoming e-mail that you send from GMail to the mailman list, but it is going out to the rest. I *won't* see this e-mail coming back from the list in my GMail, but I *will* see it with my home e-mail address. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] MM 2.1.6 MM, htdig and MHonarc integration patches available
On 23/08/05, Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is still using them, I have finally found time to prepare MM 2.1.6 compatible versions of some patches I have been publishing for some years to support integration of Mailman with htdig (for archive search) and MM with MHonArc (for archive content page generation). WOO HOO!! Thank you Richard. I've been waiting for them to be updated for MM 2.1.6. Now, *I* just need to find the time to test and upgrade my server :( -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] XHTML Compliant Web UI - 2.1.6 Patch
I have just uploaded an updated patch that will make the web UI for MM 2.1.6 XHTML 1.0 strict compliant. This patch allows for some CSS formatting as well. I have tried to make all the pages compliant, but I may have missed some combinations of pages and options, so if you find some that aren't compliant, please let me know which page isn't compliant and under which circumstances it's not. It it patch 1160353 in the Sourceforge Mailman patch repository. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1160353group _id=103atid=300103 If anyone has any feedback on it, I'd love to hear it,since this is my first attempt at creating a patch. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The man who claims to be the boss in his own home will lie about other things as well. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Include original e-mail with Held notice
When a post is over the max_message_size a held notice is sent back to the sender. Is it possible to include the original e-mail with this held notice? Or at least the first line of the e-mail? I have looked in the FAQ and searched the archives and I don't see anything. Thanks, -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] XHTML Compliant Web UI - 2.1.6 Patch
I have just uploaded a patch that will make the web UI for MM 2.1.6rc1 XHTML 1 strict compliant. This patch allows for some CSS formatting as well. I have tried to make all the pages compliant, but I may have missed some combinations of pages and options, so if you find some that aren't compliant, please let me know which page isn't compliant and under which circumstances it's not. It it patch 1160353 in the Sourceforge Mailman patch repository. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1160353group _id=103atid=300103 If anyone has any feedback on it, I'd love to hear it,since this is my first attempt at something like this. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting What a great ride! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;fileúq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Major admin problems
On 19 Mar 2005 at 12:17, Michael Anderson wrote: The systems admin who is NOT a unix expert thinks the drive is seriously corrupted. So, I need to pull off the subscriber list and rebuild the drive. It is configured with Linux SuSe which has a nice webmin browser interface that I have been able to use to administrate certain things. This has been helpful for me since I don't know much unix. If you used the Mailman webmin module, check your aliases file. For some reason the Mailman module that I have used in the past have toasted my Sendmail aliases file. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The early worm gets eaten by the bird, so sleep late. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] XHTML Compliant Web UI 2.1.6b4 Patch
I have just uploaded a patch that will make the web UI for MM 2.1.6b4 XHTML 1 strict compliant. Well, the start of a patch. Currently only the listinfo pages are xhtml 1 compliant and some minor CSS formating ability. As time goes by, I'm going to update the patch to include more of the UI pages. Since this is my first atempt at something like this I thought I'd post it incrementally in case anyone finds something terrible wrong with what I'm doing :) It it patch 1160353 in the Sourceforge Mailman patch repository. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1160353group _id=103atid=300103 If anyone has any feedback on it, I'd love to hear it. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] When they put 'unknown' at the end of a quote, that means they probably don't know how to spell 'anonymous'. ~Author Unknown -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Making Web UI Valid XHTML
On 5 Mar 2005 at 13:42, Mark Sapiro wrote: Bryan Carbonnell wrote: 1) Can anyone give me some quick pointers on how to make it, so that it's a standard patch file, if such a thing exists. A unified context diff is the preferred format for a patch. This is the '-u' option. Thanks Mark. 2) Would I be better off working with 2.1.5 or 2.1.6 source? I know that the 2.1.6 is still in late beta. I would recommend 2.1.6, although for the templates at least, there's no difference - see Hoopefully I should have the start of a patch, the listinfo pages at least, within the next few days. At which point I'll post it to sourceforge. Thanks again Mark. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happiness comes through doors you didn't even know you left open. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Making Web UI Valid XHTML
I am trying to make the web UI for MM 2.1.5 valid XHTML. I have got some of it completed already (just the listinfo page at the moment), and I would like to let the rest of you have a look at it, critique it However, since I'm fairly new to Linux and creating diff files, I'm not sure how to make the patch file to upload to Sourceforge. I have read the man pages, but there seems to be quite a few different commandline switches, I don't know which ones to use. In that respect I have 2 questions: 1) Can anyone give me some quick pointers on how to make it, so that it's a standard patch file, if such a thing exists. 2) Would I be better off working with 2.1.5 or 2.1.6 source? I know that the 2.1.6 is still in late beta. Thanks for any help or pointers. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never let a computer see you hurry. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Making Web UI Valid XHTML
On 5 Mar 2005 at 12:38, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: However, since I'm fairly new to Linux and creating diff files, I'm not sure how to make the patch file to upload to Sourceforge. I have read the man pages, but there seems to be quite a few different commandline switches, I don't know which ones to use. OOPS.. That should have read: I have read the man pages for diff and patch -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why is it that inside every older person is a younger person wondering what the heck happened? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply Command Acting Weird
On 31 May 2004 at 14:09, David Andrews wrote: I am running Mailman version 2.1.5. I have a couple users reporting that when they use the Reply command in their mail program, that both the list address, and the sender of the original message, addresses are put there. I have Mailman set to set reply to the list, so the sender shouldn't be there. One user uses PM Mail, another Outlook Express. Any ideas? Assuming that by PM Mail, you mean Pegasus Mail, then it's probably a case of the user is selecting Address Reply to: All Recipients in the reply dialog box when they click Reply. As for OE, they are probably clicking Reply All, which puts bitha addresses in the To line. So, in both cases, it's just how they are replying. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Following the rules will not get the job done. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] HTML Templates
Reposting because I got unsubbed from the list and the original got held. Appologies if you get this twice. I have looked in the $prefix/templates, $prefix/templates/en and $prefix/templates/uk directory. I have looked in the FAQ. Either I'm blind or just plain old dumb, but I can't seem to fine the HTML template that builds the list of list page. The page that you first get when you goto example.com/mailman/listinfo/ I found the individual list info template ($prefix/templates/en/listinfo.html), but I can't seem to find the one that builds the list of lists. Help. Please? -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've learned That to ignore the facts does not change the facts. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML Templates
From: Richard Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26 Mar 2004, at 11:15, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: Either I'm blind or just plain old dumb, but I can't seem to fine the HTML template that builds the list of list page. The page that you first get when you goto example.com/mailman/listinfo/ Unfortunately so in MM 2.1.x that page is not built from a template file. Ah, that explains why I couldn't find it last night. Thanks Richard. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately common sense isn't so common! -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] HTML Templates
I have looked in the $prefix/templates, $prefix/templates/en and $prefix/templates/uk directory. I have looked in the FAQ. Either I'm blind or just plain old dumb, but I can't seem to fine the HTML template that builds the list of list page. The page that you first get when you goto example.com/mailman/listinfo/ I found the individual list info template ($prefix/templates/en/listinfo.html), but I can't seem to find the one that builds the list of lists. Help? Please. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Normal people worry me. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML Templates
On 26 Mar 2004 at 12:00, Richard Barrett wrote: On 26 Mar 2004, at 11:15, Bryan Carbonnell wrote: Either I'm blind or just plain old dumb, but I can't seem to fine the HTML template that builds the list of list page. The page that you first get when you goto example.com/mailman/listinfo/ Unfortunately so in MM 2.1.x that page is not built from a template file. See the listinfo_overview() function defined in $prefix/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py, which generates the page; it starts as follows (note the comment): Has anyone hacked MM 2.1.4 to use a template for the main listinfo page? I didn't see any patches in the SF patch repository. If anyone has, was it hard to do? or is it a case of creating a template and make the listinfo_overview() similar to list_listinfo()? Thanks, -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.' - HHGTG -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Cross Posting creates multiple posts
I just upgraded to Mailman 2.1.4, python 2.1.3 on a Redhat 7.3 server. Prior to that I was running mm 2.1.1 When someone cross posts to multiple lists on our server (not encouraged, but not disallowed) we end up getting an inordinate amount of extra posts. Here's what I mean. User cross posts to lists A, B and C I end up with 9, yes NINE, copies of the e-mail. I get: 1) one from A 2) one from A that actually came from list B first 3) one from A that actually came from list C first 4) one from A that came from C which came from B before that 5) one from A that came from B which came from C before that 6) one from B 7) one from B that came from C first 8) one from C 9) one from C that came from B first This was happening while I was mm 2.1.1 as well. Is there a setting that will prevent me from getting 9 copies of the same e-mail? Or do I need to beat the users until they stop cross posting :-) I still have all 9 e-mails if there is anything in the headers that may help you help me sort this mess out. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Normal people worry me. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to list
On 5 Feb 2004 at 9:06, Mark Dadgar wrote: Yeah, it's so damned hard to edit the To: line, isn't it? Wow. I don't know how people ever manage to send email in the first place. Yep it is once you get inside of some corporate mail systems. The From line gets hosed, but the Reply-To doesn't get touched. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've learned That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself with people smarter than I am. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Rotating Archives
I am the admin of quite a few lists and on one of the lists I want to limit the archives to the last month only. Actually the last 30 days. Is this possible? I am running 2.1.1 (soon to be 2.1.4 with Richard Barrett's excelent patches for HTDig integration) on Redhat 7.3 I have checked the archives of the list and didn't find anything on this. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Or at least tell me not to bother because it can't be done. Thanks, -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Rotating Archives
On 13 Jan 2004 at 19:00, Mark Dadgar wrote: This would be really easy to script and run daily from cron. The basic archives are stored in mbox format, so you just remove the appropriate posts from the beginning of the mailbox and then call bin/arch with the --wipe option to regenerate the archive html stuff. Run it early in the morning when no one is looking. Any pointers? I am new to Linux and got thrown into the List admin role by saying I was interested in learning Linux :-) I had kind of though that it would be something along these lines, but wasn't sure. I guess I need to re-phrase the question properly :( How would I parse the mbox file to remove anything older than XX from it so I can regenerate the archives? If someone has something like this I could look at I'd be ever so greatful, or at least some pointers to the shell commands that I'd need to look at to start on parsing the file. Thanks very much for patience with a newbie. -- Bryan Carbonnell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't be irreplaceable. If you can't be replaced, you can't be promoted. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
