[Mailman-Users] Re: User receiving mail, but not subscribed

[Chromatest J. Pantsmaker]

I'd say export the digest subscriber list and then search within it for the
domain, or even the username portion of her email address.  My office has
email addresses on several domains of which all direct to my inbox, but
every email domain has the same username.  The digest subscribers list is
usually only a small percentage of all subscribers.

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 10:59 PM Jim Dory  wrote:

> On 8/16/21 8:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> >
> >
> > One thing you can do is enable VERP. Assuming this in Mailman 2.1 since
> this list is for Mailman 2.1, you enable VERP
> > by putting
> >
> > VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1
> >
> > in mm_cfg.py. This will change the envelope sender (the bounces address)
> from
> >
> > listname-boun...@domain.com>
> >
> > to
> >
> > listname-bounces+user=example@domain.com>
> >
> > where replacing the '=' in user=example.com gives the recipient's
> address.
> >
> > The other thing you can do is just look at all the digest members of the
> list. If there aren't too many, you may be
> > able to figure out which it is. use Mailman's
> >
> > bin/list_members -d -f listname
> >
> > to get a list of digest members with their 'real name' if available.
> >
> > Otherwise, as you note, if you can get her to send you the raw message
> headers, you may be able to get the address
> > from the Received: headers.
>
>
> Great Mark, will try that VERP trick. She is out of the office for the
> rest of the week so will have to wait and see.
>
> There's over 1500 subscribers so probably best to search on her
> corporation's domain - that may return maybe around a
> couple dozen or so - rather than digest subscribers which are probably a
> ton.
>
> thanks, Jim
>
>
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[Mailman-Users] Re: protecting the web interface against subscription spam

[Chromatest J. Pantsmaker]

Looks like your noscript plugin is blocking javascript

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 3:12 PM AJ  wrote:

> Keys set properly in mm_cfg.py.  I am on Mailman 2.1.34.
>
> mm_cfg.py:
>
> SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET = "xxx"
> BLOCK_SPAMHAUS_LISTED_IP_SUBSCRIBE = Yes
> BLOCK_SPAMHAUS_LISTED_DBL_SUBSCRIBE = Yes
> RECAPTCHA_SITE_KEY = 'xxx'
> RECAPTCHA_SECRET_KEY = 'xxx'
>
>
> View source of page, i see this, with the correct site key:
>
>   This form requires
> JavaScript. src="https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api.js?hl=en";>
>  data-sitekey="xxx">
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 4:38 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:
>
> > On 3/5/21 1:24 PM, AJ wrote:
> > > I've tried to enable the reCaptcha by setting the keys in mm_cfg.py and
> > the
> > > list subscribe page does not display the reCaptcha checkbox.
> > > This is the case on new and old lists.  I've confirmed the following is
> > > added to templates/en/listinfo.html
> > >
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >
> > > None of the old lists have custom listinfo.html pages.
> > > Any clue on where else to look?
> >
> >
> > Have you set the keys as
> >
> > RECAPTCHA_SITE_KEY = '...'
> > RECAPTCHA_SECRET_KEY = '...'
> >
> > capitalized and spelled correctly?
> >
> > Is Javascript enabled in your browser? If not, you should see
> >
> > This form requires JavaScript.
> >
> > instead of the recaptcha.
> >
> > Iv you view the source of the page in your browser, what do you see?
> >
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?

[Chromatest J. Pantsmaker]

If you are running a MM2 list, the answer is no.  MM2 is getting security
fixes only.

If you are running a MM3 list, ask on the MM3 support list.  This list is
only for MM2.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 7:57 PM Vako Nicolian  wrote:

> So what I understand from the above thread is that currently there is no
> way to display (or forcefully display) a sender's details in a message that
> they send to the mailing list, even if those details are in the membership
> database??
>
> Could we add this as a feature for future releases?
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[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space

[Chromatest J. Pantsmaker]

Frankly, using ANY mailing list to do this simple task is overkill.

You can have gmail filter and forward these emails instead.  They go to
*your* gmail account, the filter matches it and forwards it to your wife's
email account.

You can set up a single filter based on a "TO" address.  This is the
address that you give to the schools, etc.  This email address could be
boardtc+w...@gmail.com as anything after + in a gmail account is
automatically sent to the username before the +.
Set the filter to automatically forward anything to that address and you're
good to go.


On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:25 AM Tom Corcoran  wrote:

> Thanks for telling me about mailmanhost.com brian, My mailing lists are
> used for my wife and me so we can get emails from the school and kids
> activities with a single parents@ address, very low volume. Similar for
> utility bills@ address. So such a solution is overkill.
>
> I see my original picture showing my settings was excluded, here it is:
> https://snipboard.io/hxpWac.jpg
>
> Mark, the kids clubs and utility billing companies mostly send HTML emails
> and.or pdf newsletters.
>
> I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help?
> There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the
> options, etc.
>
> It's surprising to me that mailman has not considered this simple use-case
> and as a result, it's over-engineered for this use case. Most people think
> it should not accumulate emails with all these options set and the solution
> is to ask one's isp to clear out space every so often. For there to be no
> option that 100% stops accumulation at this stage of the products life is a
> little bizarre and silly imho.
>
> Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the
> emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list?
>
> Maybe there is a CPanel option to do this other than mailing lists, I have
> not found it. Forwarders do not alow 1 address to be forwarded to 2 as far
> as I can see.
>
> As always, thanks for yer paitence.
>
> Tom.
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[Mailman-Users] Re: options page for this list?

[Chromatest J. Pantsmaker]

Perhaps this list for Mailman2 users, is running on Mailman3?  That would
make sense to me.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 10:44 AM Russell Clemings 
wrote:

> A (probably stupid) question: How does one get to the list options page for
> this (Mailman2) list?
>
> The link in the digest footer (
> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/) goes to
> the Mailman3 list options.
>
> I've been unable to find the options page for this list via other means.
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[Mailman-Users] Re: STOP MODERATION REQUESTS

[Chromatest J. Pantsmaker]

Can't you also moderate the entire list by default, and then un-moderate
the users you want to be able to post?

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 9:47 AM Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 6/4/20 8:37 AM, justinhumphres--- via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > There are only three people at the moment that can send out emails. But,
> every time we send a email out we have to approve the email. Is there a way
> for just all admins emails to be approved without having to log in each
> time. This would be great help if you all can help me figure this out!
> Thanks!
>
>
> See  for information about posting with
> an Approved: header/pseudo-header.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Best way to slow down all the spam to my lists?

[Chromatest J. Pantsmaker]

I had sent some test email from gmail and several hours later those test
messages didn't pass.  Maybe I goofed something along the way.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 9:04 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 12/13/19 7:23 PM, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker wrote:
> > I think I'll look into this next.  It seems that the postgrey
> > implementation that I followed from a previous email has stopped the
> spam,
> > but it's also stopped all other mail also!  doh!
>
>
> If postgrey is working as it should, it will initially respond to all
> mail with a 4xx (retryable) status. The theory is spambots won't retry,
> but legitimate MTAs will, usually after a delay of up to 15 minutes or
> so, but some more than an hour.
>
> As postgrey learns, it will remember triplets (sender, sending IP,
> recipient) and not delay them and in addition will whitelist domains
> that retry successfully more than a few times.
>
> Thus, after time, the delayed mail will become less frequent.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Best way to slow down all the spam to my lists?

[Chromatest J. Pantsmaker]

I think I'll look into this next.  It seems that the postgrey
implementation that I followed from a previous email has stopped the spam,
but it's also stopped all other mail also!  doh!

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 6:40 PM Gary R. Schmidt  wrote:

> On 12/12/19 12:46 PM, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker wrote:
>  > I'm the system admin (though I'm not great at it).  I have a problem
> with
>  > spam.  Hundreds of spam messages are posted to my lists each week.
> They're
>  > non-subscribers so they don't go to the lists, but they *do* go to
> me, the
>  > list owner which floods my inbox.
>  >
>  > I'm looking at the page on how to use SpamAssassin:
>  >
>
> https://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.23%20How%20do%20I%20use%20SpamAssassin%20with%20Mailman%3F?action=show
>  >
>  >
>  > Is that the best way to do what I need?
>  > If so, what's the best method to use in my case?
>  > My system:
>  > Mailman 2.1.20
>  > Apache2 / 2.4.18
>  > Postfix 3.1.0
>  > Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
>
> With Postfix, you should activate the built-in SPAM control, "postscreen".
>
> The details on how to use it are in POSTCSCREEN_README when you install
> from source, I don't where/if Ubuntu puts it, or if they build it for
> their distro, but it just works.  "man postscreen" should get you started.
>
> I have it checking spamhaus.org, spamcop.net, and barracudacentral.org
> for blacklisting.
>
> I sometimes add IP ranges to "/etc/postfix/postscreeen_access.cidr",
> (they've mainly been from Brazil, Korea, and China), when I notice a new
> source that the blacklists haven't yet found, blocking out vast swathes
> of the internet doesn't trouble me.
>
> Cheers,
> Garyb-)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Best way to slow down all the spam to my lists?

[Chromatest J. Pantsmaker]

Yeah, I wanted to avoid that because non-subscribers often email the list
trying to contact the list admins or organization representatives instead.
I've tried the first link above up through step 4.  Step 5 is adding an
additional filter to Spam Assassin and doesn't appear to be directly
connected to the first four steps.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 11:18 AM Richard Damon 
wrote:

> On 12/12/19 12:46 PM, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker wrote:
> > I'm the system admin (though I'm not great at it).  I have a problem with
> > spam.  Hundreds of spam messages are posted to my lists each week.
> They're
> > non-subscribers so they don't go to the lists, but they *do* go to me,
> the
> > list owner which floods my inbox.
> >
> > I'm looking at the page on how to use SpamAssassin:
> >
> https://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.23%20How%20do%20I%20use%20SpamAssassin%20with%20Mailman%3F?action=show
> >
> >
> > Is that the best way to do what I need?
> > If so, what's the best method to use in my case?
> > My system:
> > Mailman 2.1.20
> > Apache2 / 2.4.18
> > Postfix 3.1.0
> > Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
>
> If you can't get earlier filtering to get the rate low enough, you may
> need to just change the option
>
> Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit
> action is defined.
> (Details for generic_nonmember_action)
>
> To discard so you don't get the messages (don't set it to reject or you
> will be backscattering). It does say that you won't see messages that
> should go to the list but the send used the wrong account.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Best way to slow down all the spam to my lists?

[Chromatest J. Pantsmaker]

Thanks for the responses Carl and Bruce,

I've been getting about 20 per day.  Some days more.  The noise is way
higher than the signal level here.  It's a low-used email list.

I'll try out filtering at the MTA level and see how it goes.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 10:34 AM Carl Zwanzig  wrote:

> On 12/12/2019 9:46 AM, Chromatest J. Pantsmaker wrote:
> > I'm the system admin (though I'm not great at it).  I have a problem with
> > spam.  Hundreds of spam messages are posted to my lists each week.
>
> (What's a acceptable level? I wouldn't spend many hours just to eliminate
> 3
> spams a day.)
>
> > Is that the best way to do what I need?
>
> I'd go for #1, filtering at the MTA level, so that mailman generally has
> less to do, for some ideas-
>
> https://www.howtoforge.com/spam-control-for-postfix
> https://www.linuxbabe.com/mail-server/block-email-spam-postfix
>
> By implementing some of these, you may decide that spam-assassin isn't
> necessary.
>
> Later,
>
> z!
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[Mailman-Users] Best way to slow down all the spam to my lists?

[Chromatest J. Pantsmaker]

I'm the system admin (though I'm not great at it).  I have a problem with
spam.  Hundreds of spam messages are posted to my lists each week.  They're
non-subscribers so they don't go to the lists, but they *do* go to me, the
list owner which floods my inbox.

I'm looking at the page on how to use SpamAssassin:
https://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.23%20How%20do%20I%20use%20SpamAssassin%20with%20Mailman%3F?action=show


Is that the best way to do what I need?
If so, what's the best method to use in my case?
My system:
Mailman 2.1.20
Apache2 / 2.4.18
Postfix 3.1.0
Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
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