[Mailman-Users] virtual hosts and https
Hello All -
With Mark Sapiro's help, I got Mailman running on my apache virtual server, at
least for the most important virtual host, xxx.org. I'd like to get Mailman to
deliver from either of my two virtual hosts both over https. I have mailman and
pipermail dirs set up in httpd.conf under each of the virtual hosts. I'm using
Sendmail.
So, before unsubscribing from this list, I have a couple of questions. -
1) In the mm_cfg.py file, I have
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = '.org'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = '.org'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) (NOTE: doesn't need
quotes, right? It worked fine without quotes)
add_virtualhost('second-virtual-host.com', 'second-virtual-host.com') (NOTE:
needs quotes or I get an error message when running mailmanctl restart)
Right now, the list I want to run from second-virtual-host and its admin pages
come up under https://.org . When I try to use the web interface from
second-virtual-host/mailman/admin/list-name, I get 404 error still under
https://.org .
I changed the list setting to second-virtual-host.com, so now Overview at the
bottom of the page includes second-virtual-host.com, but all links at the
bottom of the page (including Overview) shows the url as https://.org . In
other words, I can not reach the list from second-virtual-host.com, either http
or https.
I hope that this message is clear enough to spell out my problem and hopefully
initiate a useful response.
Thanks as always.
Dan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosts and https yet another follow-up
Hi again Y'all -
I think I now understand what you said before, Vince. I need a unique ip
for each 443 port I set up, not one ip, qualified by Server Name, Server
Alias and port, right? So, I'll need to remove the Mailman config from the
second-virtual-server so that Mailman on SSL processes the .org server name
only.
That's easy enough. My lingering question is why does https work with mysql
admin for instance on the second server? (No cross-over server or alias
confusion.) Is that because its a separate server?
Anyway, thanks for the quick response and great information. I'll return to
lurking now.
Dan
- Original Message -
From: Dan Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vince Van De Coevering [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mailman-Users@python.org
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosts and https follow-up
Hello Vince, Mark and all --
Well, I ran the withlists program (duh! can't believe I forgot to do this)
on the one list I want to run from the second-virtual -host only. But now
(maybe before, too), I can go into any list under https xxx.org, https
www.xxx.org, https www.second-virtual-host, but not just plain https
second-virtual-host. (It recognizes the server Alias but not the server
name). The confusion only appears to be happening with mailman.Yes, I
restarted Apache. Obviously, this is not what I want and I should have
just
left well enough alone. Dang.
Vince, I have four virtual hosts on my machine (running Apache) - In
httpd.conf, I have the ip address with port 80 or 443 for each of the two
hosts. I have mailman and pipermail set up for each host under the 443
port
like so
VirtualHost xxx.xx.xxx.xx:443
Alias /pipermail /usr/local/mailman/archives/public
Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public
AddDefaultCharset Off
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
ScriptAlias /mailman/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin
Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin
Options ExecCGI FollowSymlinks MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
All enclosed in the VirtualHost xxx.xx.xxx.xx:443 container for each
host
- Original Message -
From: Vince Van De Coevering [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Dan Collins' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mailman-Users@python.org
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosts and https
Sorry for the top post but I really don't have any in-line comments...
Dan,
Is it safe to assume that you are using apache as your web server?
Have you set up each of your virtual domains with its own IP address or
are
you attempting to share the same IP address between multiple servers?
SSL
doesn't support name based virtual hosting so you will need a unique IP
address for each domain.
Vince Van De Coevering
IT Manager
Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
503-371-9318 x216
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Dan Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 01, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Mailman-Users@python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosts and https
Hello All -
With Mark Sapiro's help, I got Mailman running on my apache
virtual server, at least for the most important virtual host,
xxx.org. I'd like to get Mailman to deliver from either of
my two virtual hosts both over https. I have mailman and
pipermail dirs set up in httpd.conf under each of the virtual
hosts. I'm using Sendmail.
So, before unsubscribing from this list, I have a couple of
questions. -
1) In the mm_cfg.py file, I have
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = '.org'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = '.org'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) (NOTE:
doesn't need quotes, right? It worked fine without quotes)
add_virtualhost('second-virtual-host.com',
'second-virtual-host.com') (NOTE: needs quotes or I get an
error message when running mailmanctl restart)
Right now, the list I want to run from second-virtual-host
and its admin pages come up under https://.org . When I
try to use the web interface from
second-virtual-host/mailman/admin/list-name, I get 404 error
still under https://.org .
I changed the list setting to second-virtual-host.com, so now
Overview at the bottom of the page includes
second-virtual-host.com, but all links at the bottom of the
page (including Overview) shows the url as https://.org .
In other words, I can not reach the list from
second-virtual-host.com, either http or https.
I hope that this message is clear enough to spell out my
problem and hopefully initiate a useful response.
Thanks as always.
Dan
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[Mailman-Users] Follow-up - Duplicate Messages Sent - Follow-up
Hi Y'all -- First, thanks so much to Mark Sapiro for answering a number of questions. Why the duplicate messages? I'm still not really sure. But I had debug on in a couple of sendmail config files - etc/resolv.conf and etc/qpopper.conf. Python didn't like that I guess and as Mark suggested, Mailman's qfiles/retry queued the messages for retry. I removed debug references and restarted sendmail. Then deinstalled and reinstalled Mailman. It appears to work fine now; I'll sleep a lot better if it still looks fine by happy hour tomorrow. Another unrelated thing that drove me crazy was that every time I added a list from the command line, or made any change at all from the command line, I had to re-run bin/check_perms and chown mailman:mailman mailman. That's because on my set-up (freeeBSD), the user mailman has no log-in (as per 2.1 in the Installation manual), and so I set the whole thing up as the root user. When re-installing, remove any lists first, run make deinstall from ports/mail/mailman (freeBSD) (and NOT rm mailman dir) THEN run make and make install. No shortcuts and follow the installation manual. e-x-a-c-t-l-y. Dan You can lead a horse to water, but if you get it to lie on its back and float, THEN you got something. - Original Message - From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailman-users@python.org Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate Messages Sent Dan Collins wrote: The second message I sent to the mailman list had attachments for testing scrub; over 50 mb no doubt. That subsequent e-mail has never arrived, but a Mailman message informing me that there is an administrative task arrived. I went to the web admin and discarded the message, but the administrative warning message continues to arrive every 5 minutes, just like freakin clockwork. Could there be two identical cron entries causing this or what? The only cron that should run every 5 minutes is gate_news. Do you have anything set up in Mail-News gateways? The cron that sends the nn LISTNAME moderator request(s) waiting message is checkdbs which normally runs once daily at 8:00 a.m. In usr/local/mailman/locks, mailmanctl starts master-qrunner AND master-qrunner.bigt dot com dot 17567 (or some other number) Is that correct? In usr/local/mailman/data, I have one master-qrunner.pid. This is correct. One file data/master-qrunner.pid containing the pid and two files locks/master-qrunner and locks/master-qrunner.your.host.name.pid both containing the same thing as the name of the second file with a full path. Logs -- Mailman logs have 137KB of locks entries of the type Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) mailman.lock unlocked This refers to a lock for the 'mailman' list mailman/logs post read Jul 27 18:54:14 2005 (17583) post to mailman from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1783, message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 1 failures This looks like a mailman generated message. Why is it posted to the 'mailman' list? Is the'mailman' list an owner or moderator of another list or itself? That could probably cause loops. qrunner logs say Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17582, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17581, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17579, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17578, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17580, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17584, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17583, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17585) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 17585, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1) Looks like a 'mailmanctl stop' or maybe a kill of the master qrunner. partial mailman/logs smtp say Jul 27 20:10:10 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips, completed in 3.799 seconds Jul 27 20:25:06 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips, completed in 1.167 seconds Jul 27 20:25:07 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 2 recips, completed in 0.408 seconds Jul 27 20:25:24 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips, completed in 6.489 seconds partial smtp-failure logs say Jul 27 20:25:06 2005 (17583) SMTP session
[Mailman-Users] Duplicate Messages Sent
Hi y'all. Sorry if this is a little long.
The continuing problem is that 1) the welcome to the mailman list e-mail (in
German no less), 2) the first message I sent to the mailman list and then 3)
the administrative warning message from Maillman regarding a subsequent message
all go out to me time and again. A second e-mail account gets my first message
over and over.
Mailman doesn't know that I have received a welcome, confirmed I want to be on
the list by sending back an e-mail, started using the mailman list for testing
and I've attended to the administrative task by discarding the over 50kb
attachment-laden e-mail. All three e-mails go out every 5 minutes or so until I
stop the qrunner(s).
The second message I sent to the mailman list had attachments for testing
scrub; over 50 mb no doubt. That subsequent e-mail has never arrived, but a
Mailman message informing me that there is an administrative task arrived. I
went to the web admin and discarded the message, but the administrative warning
message continues to arrive every 5 minutes, just like freakin clockwork. Could
there be two identical cron entries causing this or what?
My set-up -
freeBSD 4.7 virtual server - (bigtuner dot com and uniconexed dot org)
mm-cfg.py has the unicon.org default and the add virtual host entry.
sendmail v 8.13.1 with
define(`confTRUSTED_USERS',`mailman'),
FEATURE(`smrsh') ( with soft link to usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman)
FEATURE(`greet_pause')
FEATURE(local_procmail)
MAILER(`local')
MAILER(`smtp')
Mailman v 2.1.6
In usr/local/mailman/locks, mailmanctl starts master-qrunner AND
master-qrunner.bigt dot com dot 17567 (or some other number) Is that
correct? In usr/local/mailman/data, I have one master-qrunner.pid.
Logs --
Mailman logs have 137KB of locks entries of the type
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) mailman.lock unlocked
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py,
line 363, in __del__
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) self.finalize()
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py,
line 359, in finalize
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) self.unlock(unconditionally=True)
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py,
line 335, in unlock
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) self.__writelog('unlocked')
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py,
line 416, in __writelog
Jul 27 20:31:00 2005 (9701) traceback.print_stack(file=logf)
mailman/logs post read
Jul 27 18:54:14 2005 (17583) post to mailman from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1783,
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 1 failures
qrunner logs say
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting.
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17582, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17581, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17579, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17578, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17580, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17584, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17583, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1)
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17585) RetryRunner qrunner exiting.
Jul 27 20:26:55 2005 (17567) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid:
17585, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1)
partial mailman/logs smtp say
Jul 27 20:10:10 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips,
completed in 3.799 seconds
Jul 27 20:25:06 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips,
completed in 1.167 seconds
Jul 27 20:25:07 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 2 recips,
completed in 0.408 seconds
Jul 27 20:25:24 2005 (17583) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to mailman for 1 recips,
completed in 6.489 seconds
partial smtp-failure logs say
Jul 27 20:25:06 2005 (17583) SMTP session failure: -1, es_setoptions( debug,
msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jul 27 20:25:06 2005 (17583) SMTP session failure: -1, es_setoptions( debug,
msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vette logs say (regarding the subsequent message, no doubt)
Jul 27 18:18:22 2005 (32572) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held,
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Message body is too big: 12472312 bytes with a
limit of 50 KB
Jul 27 18:46:20 2005 (7448) mailman: Discarded posting:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test wtih attachments
Reason: Your message was too big; please trim it to less than 50
