Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working
On 22/01/18 18:24, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: Will someone please enlighten me on how mail.override_list_reply_to behaves when set to true (the default) vs false? If set to TRUE (the default value) replies will go directly to the sender of the message. If set to FALSE, replies will go to the mailing list. That's my experience anyway (I use Thunderbird 52.5.2 Mac). Hal -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working
On 20/01/18 20:05, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 01/20/2018 10:18 AM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote:
I'm a little confused about the "reply-to" setting as I was pretty sure
I had set my list up so that all replies by default go back to the list,
but for some reason a reply goes directly to the sender.
recent T'bird if the message has a List-Post: header and T'bird offers a
"Reply List" button, "Reply" will ignore Reply-To: if it's the list
address and reply to the From:. In more recent T'bird, you can restore
the expected behavior be setting mail.override_list_reply_to False in
the config editor (see
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1392371>), but this has to
be done by every list member that uses T'bird.
There are other possibilities, but I think the above is the likely issue
in your case.
Thanks Mark!
Yes, that was the problem here as I'm a Thunderbird user. Changing the
above preference now makes it possible to just press "Reply" and it goes
to the list.
I did notice a "Reply to list" option ("Message"-"Reply to list" menu)
but I like to keep things simple, so a single "Reply" button is much
preferred.
I've posted a message to my mailing list about this so that hopefully
every Thunderbird user will do the same (only to remember to do a "Reply
to all" and remove the list address for reply-postings not meant for the
list but rather directly to the sender).
Apart from Thunderbird, are there other email apps which cause this issue?
Hal
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[Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working
I'm a little confused about the "reply-to" setting as I was pretty sure I had set my list up so that all replies by default go back to the list, but for some reason a reply goes directly to the sender. I had "reply_goes_to_list" set to "this list" along with the list's posting address set for the "reply_to_adress". Since this didn't work and I tried to read the details/help for the Mailman web-interface but can't seem to figure this out. I did change the "reply_goes_to_list" setting to "Explicit address" but that didn't appear to change anything. I'm on Mailman 2.1.12. Hal -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam
On 12/11/17 02:10, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 11/11/2017 03:58 PM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote: On 12/11/17 00:19, Mark Sapiro wrote: Would adding me as a member to the Mailman group be the "safest" option? It would allow you to do what you need (and to "mess up" Mailman ;) without giving you root or sudo. Hopefully I won't be doing that, but if I do I won't mess up the entire server ;-) Your (and others') comments on how to solve all this has been very helpful. I'll look closer into it when the server owner gives me access and hopefully nobody else needs to see that spam. I read about the Mailman 3 development and I'm wondering if chances are that it'll ever become a matter of "point & click" to maintain such a mailing list, or will there always be the need to "deep dive" with UNIX commands and other complexities? We're working on it. Mailman 3 sounds very promising. Is Postorius and HyperKitty a part of that installation or are we talking different software? Updates and additional software installations are done by the server owner, but once I spend the time to figure out what to download from where, I understand it's not such a huge and complex job to actually go ahead and install it for him. I'm sure the new version will be announced here :-) Oh, you mentioned that HyperKitty could be used to delete archived messages via the web user-interface. This would of course solve my initial problem of deleting those spam messages in a simple and quick way without entering the UNIX terminal. Hal -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Funding Campaign for GNU Mailman
On 13/11/17 06:35, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Hal via Mailman-Users writes: > [The FSF donation page for GNU Mailman is] apparently working now. > At least for me and using Paypal. Do you mean you used it with a screen reader for the visually impaired? If so, what screen reader were you using? I'm sorry, I replied too quickly to your posting, missing the part about the screen reader. I use a normal screen, so please disregard my reply. Hal -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam
On 12/11/17 00:19, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 11/11/2017 02:28 PM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote:
unfortunately I'm unable to access that location ("permission denied")
for some reason,
It is not uncommon for /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/ to not be
readable/searchable by other than the web server user or Mailman's group.
Whatever is done, needs to be done by someone with write access to that
directory.
Would adding me as a member to the Mailman group be the "safest" option?
Safest meaning that the web-server owner not having to risk me messing
up the whole server or something, while still letting me do cleanup work
(or anything else related to the list configuration etc)?
so I'm contacting the server owner about that. But
several years ago I did a lot of work cleaning up and importing archived
messages from before I moved over to Mailman and made backups of said
directory and it seems I have two main directories:
/var/lib/mailman/archives_BACKUP/private/LISTNAME/
and
/var/lib/mailman/archives_BACKUP/private/LISTNAME.mbox/
That's correct, but of course the back ups would not have any more
recent posts.
Yes, true.
But being able to access those backups gave me some insight in the
file/folder structure.
I'll be sure to make backups of everything before messing around with
the new postings as well.
The "LISTNAME.mbox/" directory contains a single "LISTNAME.mbox" file
while the "LISTNAME/" directory contains a variety of files and
sub-directories by month. I suppose I have to clean things up in both of
those paths?
That depends. The easiest way to do it completely and correctly is to
edit the LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox file and replace the spam bodies
with "spam removed" or some such text and similarly for the Subject:
headers, but leave the edited messages there so messages aren't
renumbered when you do the next step.
Excellent suggestion!
Does this apply even if say October only contains one posting, which is
spam? Would that mess up the next month's postings (if any)?
Then rebuild the archives in the LISTNAME/ directory with Mailman's
bin/arch --wipe LISTNAME
(Mailman's bin/arch is what Dimitri referred to as mmarch)
You might review this entire thread beginning at
<https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2017-November/082712.html>
including
<https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2017-November/082722.html>
which refers you to <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030681> which discusses
all the options in detail.
Thanks. Just what I needed.
I see it's well explained, but I'll probably read it through a few times
before attempting to do this due to the complexity.
I read about the Mailman 3 development and I'm wondering if chances are
that it'll ever become a matter of "point & click" to maintain such a
mailing list, or will there always be the need to "deep dive" with UNIX
commands and other complexities?
Hal
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam
On 07/11/17 19:41, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
On 11/07/2017 01:29 AM, Hal via Mailman-Users wrote:
I run a low-volume mailing list (using Mailman 2.1.12) and I see that a
few spam-messages have gotten through, which also means they're archived.
I would like to remove them but all the info I can find when searching
online are along the lines of "hard to do", "shouldn't be attempted",
"impossible" and so on. Is this correct, or is there a solution?
man mmarch
I haven't done this in forever but IIRC the scary hard to do impossible
part is editing the mbox file without messing it up, not exactly rocket
science.
So you're saying it's *NOT* hard to do?
I looked up "mmarch" and came up with this page which really didn't make
me much wiser: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/mmarch.8.html
I also tried to log into the server and believe they're located
somewhere here: /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/
unfortunately I'm unable to access that location ("permission denied")
for some reason, so I'm contacting the server owner about that. But
several years ago I did a lot of work cleaning up and importing archived
messages from before I moved over to Mailman and made backups of said
directory and it seems I have two main directories:
/var/lib/mailman/archives_BACKUP/private/LISTNAME/
and
/var/lib/mailman/archives_BACKUP/private/LISTNAME.mbox/
The "LISTNAME.mbox/" directory contains a single "LISTNAME.mbox" file
while the "LISTNAME/" directory contains a variety of files and
sub-directories by month. I suppose I have to clean things up in both of
those paths?
In the former, if a certain month only contains spam message (i.e. no
legit postings at all), can I just delete the following for instance and
be done with it?
rm -riv 2017-October/
rm -iv 2017-October.txt
rm -iv 2017-October.txt.gz
That would still leave spam in the "mbox" file, but at least when
browsing through the archives via the web interface they wouldn't see
any spam there.
Hal
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[Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam
I run a low-volume mailing list (using Mailman 2.1.12) and I see that a few spam-messages have gotten through, which also means they're archived. I would like to remove them but all the info I can find when searching online are along the lines of "hard to do", "shouldn't be attempted", "impossible" and so on. Is this correct, or is there a solution? Perhaps it helps to say that for the past two months (September and October) each of those only contains one message each, and they're spam. Other months contain a mix of spam and legitimate messages. Hal -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
