Re: [Mailman-Users] shunting problem (unpack list of wrong size)

2006-03-24 Thread Jim Savoy

Also, can you do either bin/dumpdb or bin/show_qfiles on the shunt
queue entry and perhaps see what the problem with the message is?

  

OK Mike - here is the dumbdb (the names were changed to protect the 
innocent). I don't
see anything unusual, and I should point out that this list has been up 
and running for
years without incident, and all of its users (only a dozen or so) have 
sent to it
successfully until a couple of weeks ago, using the same mail clients 
they've always
used. I even blew away and re-created the list from scratch last week, 
and it was
working fine until yesterday. Now, no users can send to it (myself 
included). Everything
is put right into the shunt dira dn it stays there and cannot be 
unshunted. Thanks.
This user is sending with the squirrelmail web program, but the list 
members use other
clients as well (most of the users on this particular list are Mac users).

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Hello all. Here is an update:

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'lang': 'en',
'listname': 'ccc-l',
'original_sender': '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'origsubj': 'Update',
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'ToArchive',
'ToUsenet',
'AfterDelivery',
'Acknowledge',
'ToOutgoing'],
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'tolist': 1,
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'whichq': '/mail/mailman/qfiles/in'}
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Re: [Mailman-Users] shunting problem (unpack list of wrong size)

2006-03-24 Thread Jim Savoy

Mike wrote:

It may also be difficult to properly recover the digest.

  

Hi Mike - problem solved and it had nothing to do with python, Mailman 
or any
of the mail clients. When I went to edit the digest.mbox file I noticed 
it was 1.4 gigabytes
in size (!). And this from a list that was just re-created a week ago 
and only had 5
messages sent to it. Turns out the list owner set it up so that there 
was no limit
on the size of the files users were allowed to send and one of the users 
sent a
1.4 gig .sit (Stuffit) file to the list (probably inadvertantly). Our 
MTA (exim)
wouldn't have delivered it anyway, but Mailman and python were going wild
trying to accomodate this large attachment (memory exhausted, plus a huge
swap file being created each time), I also run a cron job every hour to 
unshunt
things and that certainly added to the chaos.

This also explains why other lists were either failing to deliver, or 
getting their
messages late. Mailman was busy doing other things.

It was not apparent from the messages in the shunt dir that this was a large
file. Only digest.mbox revealed that. I am going to go through all of 
our lists
now, searching for large digest files.

Thanks for all your help.

 - jim -

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[Mailman-Users] shunting problem (unpack list of wrong size)

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Savoy

Hello all,

Of our 770+ lists, a couple have some shunting problems (the unshunt 
command fails
to release queued up messages in the shunt directory). We are still 
running v2.1.5 with
plans to upgrade in May, but I was hoping to get a fix for this before then.

   The error message we get is:

==

  Mar 23 12:37:33 2006 (19290) Uncaught runner exception: unpack list of 
wrong size
   .
   .
   .
 File /mail/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py, line 337, in decode_params
 charset, language, value = decode_rfc2231(EMPTYSTRING.join(value))
   File /mail/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py, line 284, in 
decode_rfc2231
 charset, language, s = parts
 ValueError: unpack list of wrong size


In pouring over the archives, Mark Shapiro wrote (in response to someone 
with
the same problem):

 Other lists aren't having a problem because it's probably caused by one
 particular list member with a pathological MUA.

And that this is related to the scrubbing of attachments for the 
digest or archives.

But no one on this list is using the digest feature and archiving is 
turned off. Plus
the user in question (the one sending the message) is using a generic 
webmail client,
the same one many of our users employ, with no special character set or 
language
options (that I can see anyway).

Any ideas? Would an upgrade to 2.1.7 resolve this problem (I only say 
that because
I perused the Mailman mailing list in reverse order from present date, 
and this issue
was never raised again by anyone after 2.1.6 came out).

Thanks!

   - jim -

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[Mailman-Users] subscription via -request

2005-09-21 Thread Jim Savoy

Hi all,

  I was wondering if there is a way to silently subscribe people to a
list via the -request command processor (ie sending email commands to
listname-request)?

   If I send the command:

subscribe password nodigest [EMAIL PROTECTED]

it works fine, but [EMAIL PROTECTED] is then sent a message asking 
that she
confirm the subscription by clicking a link. Our users are confused 
enough as it
is, and we would like to avoid this step. I realize that the 
confirmation step was
created to prevent any old yahoo from subscribing people to lists 
without their
consent, but how would any old yahoo know what the list password is? Seems
like an unnecessary extra layer of protection.

We are running Mailman 2.1.5.  Thanks!

 - jim -

PS I realize that we can silently subscribe people via the GUI and the 
command
  line, but we wish to do it via email and -request processor only.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] command-line query

2004-09-16 Thread Jim Savoy

I showed an example of one way to do this from the command line a
couple of months back:
 http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037287.html
(Although that particular message shows how to moderate from
the command line, so you'll want to change the mm_cfg.Yes to
mm_cfg.No to make an 'unmoderate' tool.)
 

Thanks Jim. I'll try it.
PS Yesterday I began reading the mailman-users mailing list backwards
 and got as far as June 11th before leaving work. Your message was
dated June 9th, so I would have found it today anyway!
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[Mailman-Users] command-line query

2004-09-15 Thread Jim Savoy
Hi all,
   I am running Mailman v2.1.2 on a Linux Enterprise box.
The membership of a number of our lists is dynamic and needs
to be changed daily. I run a cronjob each morning that
unsubscribes everyone and then re-subscribes the new members.
Works fine with one slight hassle: I can't figure out how to
doctor the 'moderation' flag from the command-line. By default
the list is moderated, but some of the subscribers added are not
to be moderated. Naturally I don't want to have to go into the GUI
interface each day and change those flags! How can I set that from
command line? It doesn't seem to be in the FAQ.
Thanks!
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