[Mailman-Users] How can I check status of or abort a mailing in progress?

2008-07-01 Thread John Hicks
I have been hosting a mailing list of 16,000 names which has been 
purring along for over a year now with no problems. (I am running 
Mailman 2.1.5, Postfix-2.2.10,  on RHES 4.0)


Recently I reconfigured this list to enable personalization so my client 
could do a better job of processing cancellation requests from 
subscribers. The processing time for a mailing (from the smtp log) went 
from a few seconds per mailing to a few minutes, but nothing unreasonable.


Heady from this success, I re-reconfigured the list to enable full 
personalization. My client posted his first message using this 
configuration Sunday night and it is still being processed (Tuesday 
night). The smtp log is filling with entries indicating either one or 
three recipients were processed. [I understand the reason for the 
singletons but not the triplets.] These entries occur in batches of a 
hundred or so and then pause for an hour or two.


I have no idea how far the system has gotten in processing the entire 
list. Is there any way to find out? (The message already appears in the 
archives but there is no entry in the Mailman post log.)


My client wants me to cancel the post, but I can't find any indication 
of how one would go about doing that. Nothing in the documentation, 
wiki, FAQ, and only one post on the subject on this list (but without an 
answer to the question).


Any help would be appreciated.

(Also pointing me toward any general document on the overall design and 
architecture of Mailman would be appreciated. The only documentation I 
can find is user or list-admin oriented. Not a clue about how Mailman 
actually gets its job done.)


Thanks in advance,

John Hicks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] closely related lists - using users from a different lists

2005-07-11 Thread John Hicks
David Cake wrote:
   I have two lists that are effectively low and high traffic
  lists designed to serve the same constituency. So that a large number
  of people do not need to be subscribed to announcements that go out
  on the low traffic list, the high traffic list is also subscribed to
  the low traffic list.
   The only problem is that this means almost no one is
  subscribed to the low traffic list, and virtually none of the people
  who might post to it are, so almost every message is moderated.
   Is there a way to allow people who are subscribed to a second
  list to be accepted as subscribers to the first?
   Cheers
   David

(Warning: I'm a novice. I'm replying only because I see your query has
not been answered after five days.)

You can subscribe the members of the larger list to the smaller list:

First export the subscribers using the list_members command from the
server command line:

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members  your-list-name  
filename-for-member-list

Then import those addresses into the smaller list. I believe there are
two ways to do this:

--You can use the mass subscribe feature of the smaller list to import
the addresses. Paste the exported addresses into the mass subscribe
page on the admin web interface. Any duplicates will be ignored. This
method allows you the option of sending invitations rather than
arbitrarily subscribing them (based on your current setting in the admin
interface). If you send invitations, your invitees get the option of
choosing between regular and digest subscriptions.

--You could also use the add_members command from the server command
line. I believe this arbitrarily subscribes them without the option of
invitations:

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/add_members  -r filename-for-member-list your-list-name

The -r subscribes them as regular members -d as digest members.

Hope that helps.

John Hicks




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[Mailman-Users] Moderator can't post, vette log entry instead

2005-07-11 Thread John Hicks
I have a new set of lists for a non-profit group running on a fresh
install of RHEL 4.1 (Mailman 2.1.5 running with Postfix 2.1.5 [sic]).

All seems to be working fine now with the minor exception that the list
moderator (who runs the group) cannot post to the lists!! Instead, an
entry is made to the vette log.

He has a hotmail account. He is subscribed as a regular member to the
lists. The only difference in his setup (that I can find) is that I have
unchecked his moderation flag (i.e. everyone is moderated but him).

When he posts to our announcement list, I can see his message arrive on
the postfix log:

Jul 10 17:35:43 tiger postfix/smtpd[18286]: connect from
bay106-f6.bay106.hotmail.com[65.54.161.16]
Jul 10 17:35:43 tiger postfix/smtpd[18286]: E30C9D01D5:
client=bay106-f6.bay106.hotmail.com[65.54.161.16]
Jul 10 17:35:44 tiger postfix/cleanup[18289]: E30C9D01D5:
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jul 10 17:35:44 tiger postfix/qmgr[19608]: E30C9D01D5:
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=3823, nrcpt=1 (queue
active)
Jul 10 17:35:44 tiger postfix/smtpd[18286]: disconnect from
bay106-f6.bay106.hotmail.com[65.54.161.16]

Then the virtual domain name trnaslation takes place and the post
wrapper is run:

Jul 10 17:35:44 tiger postfix/local[18290]: E30C9D01D5:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local
, delay=1, status=sent (delivered to command:
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post lmr-announce)
Jul 10 17:35:44 tiger postfix/qmgr[19608]: E30C9D01D5: removed

But the message doesn't get posted. Instead it shows up on the mailman
vette log:

Jul 10 17:35:45 2005 (21500) Message discarded, msgid:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Any suggestions on how to debug this?

Thanks,

John Hicks


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator can't post, vette log entry instead

2005-07-11 Thread John Hicks
Dan Phillips wrote:
 
  On Jul 11, 2005, at 3:08 PM, John Hicks wrote:
 
 
  Jul 10 17:35:45 2005 (21500) Message discarded, msgid:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  My first (and probably only) guess would be that you've got filtering
  turned on and Hotmail is sending a MIME type text/html message rather
  than multipart/alternative. If html filtering is on and there's no
  plain text part, the resulting empty message is discarded in the
  manner you described.
 
  Dan
 
 
  
  Dan Phillips
  Associate Professor of Horn, University of Memphis
  site administrator: music.memphis.edu
 


That would certainly explain it. I do have filtering on and I have 
noticed that his hotmail arrives as html only -- no alternatives.

I had convert_html_to_plaintext enabled and thought that would take care 
of things, but upon closer examination I realize I am filtering out the 
text/html before that conversion can take place.

Looks like I need to add text/html to the pass_mime_types list.

Thanks very much!

John



John Hicks wrote:
 I have a new set of lists for a non-profit group running on a fresh
 install of RHEL 4.1 (Mailman 2.1.5 running with Postfix 2.1.5 [sic]).
 
 All seems to be working fine now with the minor exception that the list
 moderator (who runs the group) cannot post to the lists!! Instead, an
 entry is made to the vette log.
 
 He has a hotmail account. He is subscribed as a regular member to the
 lists. The only difference in his setup (that I can find) is that I have
 unchecked his moderation flag (i.e. everyone is moderated but him).
 
 When he posts to our announcement list, I can see his message arrive on
 the postfix log:
 
 Jul 10 17:35:43 tiger postfix/smtpd[18286]: connect from
 bay106-f6.bay106.hotmail.com[65.54.161.16]
 Jul 10 17:35:43 tiger postfix/smtpd[18286]: E30C9D01D5:
 client=bay106-f6.bay106.hotmail.com[65.54.161.16]
 Jul 10 17:35:44 tiger postfix/cleanup[18289]: E30C9D01D5:
 message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Jul 10 17:35:44 tiger postfix/qmgr[19608]: E30C9D01D5:
 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=3823, nrcpt=1 (queue
 active)
 Jul 10 17:35:44 tiger postfix/smtpd[18286]: disconnect from
 bay106-f6.bay106.hotmail.com[65.54.161.16]
 
 Then the virtual domain name trnaslation takes place and the post
 wrapper is run:
 
 Jul 10 17:35:44 tiger postfix/local[18290]: E30C9D01D5:
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
 orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local
 , delay=1, status=sent (delivered to command:
 /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post lmr-announce)
 Jul 10 17:35:44 tiger postfix/qmgr[19608]: E30C9D01D5: removed
 
 But the message doesn't get posted. Instead it shows up on the mailman
 vette log:
 
 Jul 10 17:35:45 2005 (21500) Message discarded, msgid:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
 
 Any suggestions on how to debug this?
 
 Thanks,
 
 John Hicks
 
 
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