[Mailman-Users] Re: all gmail subscribers removed - 'disabled address'
Thanks for response. I am on 2.1.39 Munge is set in general options DH limits customer access to only the web settings screens Running a check, it did seem that DMARC was failing (I had tweaked it a while back) so I returned to DH's recommended basic setting which is v=DMARC1; p=quarantine; fo=1; rua=mailto:dmarc_...@example.com;ruf=mailto: dmarc_foren...@example.com;pct=100 (example.com replaced by my domain, obv.) I am going to send out a test and see if gmail subscribers get it Joly On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 12:31 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 4/30/24 23:02, Joly MacFie wrote: > > I have a small mailman one-click install running on a VPS on Dreamhost. > > > > I have struggled to make it DKIM / SPF / DMARC compliant, and I thought I > > was winning, but, just now, every single gmail subscriber was removed > > (disabled address) > > > > I have it set 'munge from' > > What is set to 'munge from'? is it General Options -> from_is_list or > Privacy options... -> Sender filters dmarc_moderation_action? > > If the former, I don't know what the issue is, but if the latter, it's > probably because although gmail publishes a DMARC policy of none, it > actually enforces a policy like reject on mail that is From: the > gmail.com domain. If your Mailman 2.1 is new enough (>= 2.1.30) add > '^.*@gmail\.com$' to dmarc_moderation_addresses to apply 'munge from' to > mail From: gmail.com. For older Mailman you have to apply 'munge from' > unconditionally by setting General Options -> from_is_list. > > -- > Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: > https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ > Member address: j...@punkcast.com > > -- -- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -- - -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@jab.org
[Mailman-Users] all gmail subscribers removed - 'disabled address'
I have a small mailman one-click install running on a VPS on Dreamhost. I have struggled to make it DKIM / SPF / DMARC compliant, and I thought I was winning, but, just now, every single gmail subscriber was removed (disabled address) I have it set 'munge from' Looking at the DMARC report from google. The VPS passes, but there are a bunch of other fails. I have re-added all those removed subscribers, and, obviously, will open a ticket at DH, and thrash my DNS records. Any tips? -- -- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -- - -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR
Following with interest, although my mailmans are on Dreamhost and I don't have root access only admin. RBTF concerns aside, I am wondering how to do a renewed opt-in, similar to what I see Mailchimp currently running. Any ideas? -- --- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -- - -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.
There would still be a confirmation step. On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 5:39 PM, List Manager <list...@nanniandjack.com> wrote: > Steve- > > Just a thought, but since the "unsubscribe link" has been part of the > output of your list, it is possible that someone other than the > recipient sees the link and clicks on it, either in malice or error > (trying to unsubscribe themselves) > -- > Jack Hill, W4KH - BoatAnchors Listowner/Archiver > list...@nanniandjack.com > "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose" > "Il n'y a que les idiots qui ne changent jamais d'idee" > > On 2017-08-19 10:00, Steve Wehr wrote: > > > That's the best theory I have heard so far to explain the facts. > > > > The user's in question, who are being unsubscribed without asking to be, > are people who like the mailing lists they are on, and would not be > flagging emails from the list as spam. Now their ISP might, but they > wouldn't. The list owners swear to me that these people are friends who > want their emails. > > > > Some further info... I was including a link at the bottom of all emails > sent by mailman (in the msg_footer field: > > "Click this link to unsubscribe: > > %(user_optionsurl)s?password=%(user_password)s=1=1" > > > > I thought perhaps users were accidentally clicking this and unsubscribing > > themselves, so I have removed the "=1" part of the URL so > they will have to manually confirm. > > > > Maybe this would foil ISPs who are automatically following this link to > > unsubscribe people. Do ISPs really do this? > > > > _ > > Steve Wehr > > Tunedin Web Design > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Keith Seyffarth [mailto:w...@weif.net] > > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:55 AM > > To: Steve Wehr > > Cc: mailman-users@python.org > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting > it. > > > > "Steve Wehr" <st...@tunedinweb.com> writes: > > > > > > > >> The problem is that when contacted, these users swear they DID NOT > >> unsubscribe themselves. So how can they be getting unsubscribed (with > >> messages in the logs like the one above) but they are not going to the > >> member options page and unsubscribing?? > > > > One possibility would be that they are marking these messages as "Junk" > > or "Spam" and their ESP/ISP, either through a manual or automated > process, > > is following the unsubscribe link in the email to remove them from the > > list... > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ > joly%40punkcast.com > -- --- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -- - -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.
Is it possible that others sharing the same ISP could have been spam-marking and this has led to other subs on ISP getting removed? I had a spate of nyu.edu unsubs a while back that and that seemed to possibly be the case. I had to resub people using alt emails. On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Keith Seyffarth <w...@weif.net> wrote: > "Steve Wehr" <st...@tunedinweb.com> writes: > > > > > The problem is that when contacted, these users swear they DID NOT > > unsubscribe themselves. So how can they be getting unsubscribed (with > > messages in the logs like the one above) but they are not going to the > > member options page and unsubscribing?? > > One possibility would be that they are marking these messages as "Junk" > or "Spam" and their ESP/ISP, either through a manual or automated > process, is following the unsubscribe link in the email to remove them > from the list... > > -- > > from my mac to yours... > > Keith Seyffarth > mailto:w...@weif.net > http://www.weif.net/ - Home of the First Tank Guide! > http://www.rpgcalendar.net/ - the Montana Role-Playing Calendar > > http://www.miscon.org/ - Montana's Longest Running Science Fiction > Convention > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ > joly%40punkcast.com > -- --- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -- - -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
