[Mailman-Users] Don`t get my mailinglist to run (mailman postfix)

2008-05-16 Thread Kai Behncke
Dear list,
a couple of month age I succesfully installed mailman and postfix, but that 
time somehow it does not work.


I need to install a mailinglist on a server of the university of Osnabrueck. 
Debian Etch is installed there.

Postfix runs finely. I made some tests with the php-command mail and could 
sent mails to my self. 

I installed mailman from source with
./configure  --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-groupname=mailman
--with-username=mailman --with-mail-gid=postfix --with-cgi-gid=apacheuser
--with-mailhost=igf-srv-gin.igf.Uni-Osnabrueck.de
--with-urlhost=igf-srv-gin.igf.Uni-Osnabrueck.de

bin/check_perms gave no errors at all.

I created a side wide mailinglist,started the mailman qrunner,site password
and can create a new mailinglist at:

http://igf-srv-gin.igf.uni-osnabrueck.de/mailman/create

...and the list is created, also the entries in /usr/local/mailman/aliases:

# STANZA START: big_test
# CREATED: Fri May 16 19:30:00 2008
big_test: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post big_test
big_test-admin:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin big_test
big_test-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces big_test
big_test-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm big_test
big_test-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join big_test
big_test-leave:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave big_test
big_test-owner:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner big_test
big_test-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request big_test
big_test-subscribe:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe big_test
big_test-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe big_test

I can register as a new user to the list and get a confirmation mail.I confirm 
subscribing and try to send mails to that list but they are not send to the 
registered users
Can anyone help please??

And I have another question:


To send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

is a really complicated name. is there a possibility to send it to (for 
example):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

But how and where can I define my_adress.de.

Thank you very much, Kai








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Re: [Mailman-Users] Don`t get my mailinglist to run (mailman postfix)

2008-05-16 Thread Kai Behncke
Hi Stefan,

thank you very much for answering.

In the logfile of mailman/log/smtp it`s written:

May 16 19:30:01 2008 (3226) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to big_test for 1 recips, 
completed in 0.027 seconds
May 16 19:33:55 2008 (3226) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to big_test for 1 recips, 
completed in 0.030 seconds
May 16 19:34:27 2008 (3226) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to big_test for 1 recips, 
completed in 0.005 seconds

...I think that are logs after subscribing to the list.


I don`t understand that, because I sent out mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 19:45  
and 20:00, but there are no entries in the logs.
Also in the log-file of postfix there are mo entries at that time.

But there are entries like:
May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/smtpd[3684]: connect from 
localhost[127.0.0.1]
May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/smtpd[3684]: 1EB28F96F: 
client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/cleanup[3687]: 1EB28F96F: 
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/qmgr[1279]: 1EB28F96F: from=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], size=2201, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/smtpd[3684]: disconnect from 
localhost[127.0.0.1]
May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/smtp[3688]: 1EB28F96F: to=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], relay=mx0.gmx.net[213.165.64.100]:25, delay=0.51, 
delays=0/0/0.34/0.17, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Message accepted 
{mx011})
May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/qmgr[1279]: 1EB28F96F: removed

...thesee entires came also after I registered to my own list.


That`s weird. It looks like there is no connection to posfix if I sent as a 
member of the list a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Do you have any idea what can cause that?


Seems as if it will be a long night for me.
Thank you again, Kai



 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Fri, 16 May 2008 19:49:13 +0200
 Von: Stefan Förster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 An: mailman-users@python.org
 Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] Don`t get my mailinglist to run (mailman
 postfix)

 * Kai Behncke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Postfix runs finely. I made some tests with the php-command mail and
 could sent mails to my self.
  
  I installed mailman from source with
  ./configure  --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-groupname=mailman
  --with-username=mailman --with-mail-gid=postfix
 --with-cgi-gid=apacheuser
  --with-mailhost=igf-srv-gin.igf.Uni-Osnabrueck.de
  --with-urlhost=igf-srv-gin.igf.Uni-Osnabrueck.de
  
  bin/check_perms gave no errors at all.
  
  I created a side wide mailinglist,started the mailman qrunner,site
 password
  and can create a new mailinglist at:
  
  http://igf-srv-gin.igf.uni-osnabrueck.de/mailman/create
  
  ...and the list is created, also the entries in
 /usr/local/mailman/aliases:
  
  # STANZA START: big_test
  # CREATED: Fri May 16 19:30:00 2008
  big_test: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post big_test
  big_test-admin:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin big_test
  big_test-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
 big_test
  big_test-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
 big_test
  big_test-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join big_test
  big_test-leave:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave big_test
  big_test-owner:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner big_test
  big_test-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
 big_test
  big_test-subscribe:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
 big_test
  big_test-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe
 big_test
 
  I can register as a new user to the list and get a confirmation
  mail.I confirm subscribing and try to send mails to that list but
  they are not send to the registered users  Can anyone help
  please??
 
 We would need some more logging information. For example, is there
 anything in the Postfix mail log (usually /var/log/maillog or
 something similar)? Is there anything in mailman's error or smtp log?
 
  And I have another question:
  
  To send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  is a really complicated name. is there a possibility to send it to (for
 example):
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  But how and where can I define my_adress.de.
 
 Yo can add alias addresses which mailman feels responsible for in the
 admin web interface:
 
 http://your listserver/mailman/admin/listname/privacy/recipient
 
 The option name is acceptable_aliases. Then you just need to have
 control over a mailserver to define an alias from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and of course, the MX
 record for my_adress.de must point to that particular server).
 
 
 Ciao
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Don`t get my mailinglist to run (mailman postfix)

2008-05-16 Thread Kai Behncke
Dear list, probably It was the firewall of the University that blocked the 
mail-functions. I will test it now with a private server.

Thanks to Stefan and best regards, Kai
 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:11:55 +0200
 Von: Kai Behncke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 An: Stefan Förster [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailman-users@python.org
 Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] Don`t get my mailinglist to run (mailman
 postfix)

 Hi Stefan,
 
 thank you very much for answering.
 
 In the logfile of mailman/log/smtp it`s written:
 
 May 16 19:30:01 2008 (3226)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to big_test for 1 recips, completed in 0.027
 seconds
 May 16 19:33:55 2008 (3226)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to big_test for 1 recips, completed in 0.030
 seconds
 May 16 19:34:27 2008 (3226)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp to big_test for 1 recips, completed in 0.005
 seconds
 
 ...I think that are logs after subscribing to the list.
 
 
 I don`t understand that, because I sent out mail to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 19:45  and 20:00, but there are no entries in the
 logs.
 Also in the log-file of postfix there are mo entries at that time.
 
 But there are entries like:
 May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/smtpd[3684]: connect from
 localhost[127.0.0.1]
 May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/smtpd[3684]: 1EB28F96F:
 client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
 May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/cleanup[3687]: 1EB28F96F:
 message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/qmgr[1279]: 1EB28F96F:
 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2201, nrcpt=1 (queue
 active)
 May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/smtpd[3684]: disconnect from
 localhost[127.0.0.1]
 May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/smtp[3688]: 1EB28F96F:
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mx0.gmx.net[213.165.64.100]:25, delay=0.51,
 delays=0/0/0.34/0.17, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Message accepted 
 {mx011})
 May 16 19:34:27 igf-srv-gin postfix/qmgr[1279]: 1EB28F96F: removed
 
 ...thesee entires came also after I registered to my own list.
 
 
 That`s weird. It looks like there is no connection to posfix if I sent as
 a member of the list a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Do you have any idea what can cause that?
 
 
 Seems as if it will be a long night for me.
 Thank you again, Kai
 
 
 
  Original-Nachricht 
  Datum: Fri, 16 May 2008 19:49:13 +0200
  Von: Stefan Förster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  An: mailman-users@python.org
  Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] Don`t get my mailinglist to run (mailman
  postfix)
 
  * Kai Behncke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Postfix runs finely. I made some tests with the php-command mail and
  could sent mails to my self.
   
   I installed mailman from source with
   ./configure  --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-groupname=mailman
   --with-username=mailman --with-mail-gid=postfix
  --with-cgi-gid=apacheuser
   --with-mailhost=igf-srv-gin.igf.Uni-Osnabrueck.de
   --with-urlhost=igf-srv-gin.igf.Uni-Osnabrueck.de
   
   bin/check_perms gave no errors at all.
   
   I created a side wide mailinglist,started the mailman qrunner,site
  password
   and can create a new mailinglist at:
   
   http://igf-srv-gin.igf.uni-osnabrueck.de/mailman/create
   
   ...and the list is created, also the entries in
  /usr/local/mailman/aliases:
   
   # STANZA START: big_test
   # CREATED: Fri May 16 19:30:00 2008
   big_test: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post big_test
   big_test-admin:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin
 big_test
   big_test-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
  big_test
   big_test-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
  big_test
   big_test-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join big_test
   big_test-leave:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave
 big_test
   big_test-owner:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
 big_test
   big_test-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
  big_test
   big_test-subscribe:   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
  big_test
   big_test-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe
  big_test
  
   I can register as a new user to the list and get a confirmation
   mail.I confirm subscribing and try to send mails to that list but
   they are not send to the registered users  Can anyone help
   please??
  
  We would need some more logging information. For example, is there
  anything in the Postfix mail log (usually /var/log/maillog or
  something similar)? Is there anything in mailman's error or smtp log?
  
   And I have another question:
   
   To send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   is a really complicated name. is there a possibility to send it to
 (for
  example):
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   But how and where can I define my_adress.de.
  
  Yo can add alias addresses which mailman feels responsible for in the
  admin web interface:
  
  http://your listserver/mailman/admin/listname/privacy/recipient
  
  The option name is acceptable_aliases. Then you just need to have
  control over

[Mailman-Users] Relay access denied: mailman postfix

2008-05-16 Thread Kai Behncke
Dear users,

I try to get to run mailman  postfix now on a private server.
With mailman everything seems  to be ok, well at least I don`t get any error 
messages after bin/check_perms -f
and can`t see any errors in /usr/local/mailman/logs/*

again I can create list and subscribe to them. But if I sent a mail to the new 
list nothing is delivered.

In my postfix-logs I find the following error:



May 16 22:15:48 h1228898 postfix/smtp[4731]: 5131D1C041D4: to=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], relay=mx0.gmx.de[213.165.64.100]:25, delay=0.2, 
delays=0.01/0/0.06/0.13, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Message accepted 
{mx075})
May 16 22:15:48 h1228898 postfix/qmgr[4649]: 5131D1C041D4: removed
May 16 22:16:10 h1228898 postfix/smtpd[4670]: connect from 
mail.gmx.net[213.165.64.20]
May 16 22:16:10 h1228898 postfix/smtpd[4670]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from 
mail.gmx.net[213.165.64.20]: 554 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access 
denied; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=SMTP 
helo=mail.gmx.net
May 16 22:16:10 h1228898 postfix/smtpd[4670]: disconnect from 
mail.gmx.net[213.165.64.20]


Does anybody know what this could mean?

Thank you again, Kai
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Relay access denied: mailman postfix

2008-05-16 Thread Kai Behncke
Hi Mark, thank you for answering.
So I will try to find a solution at the postfix-list.

Best regards, Kai
 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:53:34 -0700
 Von: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 An: Kai Behncke [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailman-users@python.org
 Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] Relay access denied: mailman  postfix

 Kai Behncke wrote:
 
 In my postfix-logs I find the following error:
 
 
 
 May 16 22:15:48 h1228898 postfix/smtp[4731]: 5131D1C041D4:
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mx0.gmx.de[213.165.64.100]:25, delay=0.2,
 delays=0.01/0/0.06/0.13, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Message accepted 
 {mx075})
 May 16 22:15:48 h1228898 postfix/qmgr[4649]: 5131D1C041D4: removed
 May 16 22:16:10 h1228898 postfix/smtpd[4670]: connect from
 mail.gmx.net[213.165.64.20]
 May 16 22:16:10 h1228898 postfix/smtpd[4670]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
 mail.gmx.net[213.165.64.20]: 554 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access
 denied; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=SMTP
 helo=mail.gmx.net
 May 16 22:16:10 h1228898 postfix/smtpd[4670]: disconnect from
 mail.gmx.net[213.165.64.20]
 
 
 Does anybody know what this could mean?
 
 
 It means that this Postfix is not configured to relay mail from
 mail.gmx.net to geoplp.de, presumably because neither domain is
 considered local by this Postfix.
 
 Resolving this is a Postfix issue, not a Mailman issue.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Question to mailman and postfix

2007-09-18 Thread Kai Behncke
Hi Mark,

 
 Your aliases are wrong. When you edited your 'mailman' aliases that
 looked like
 
 mailman: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
 etc,
 
 you replaced too many 'mailman occurrences. You changed the above into
 
 testing_b: |/usr/local/testing_b/mail/testing_b post testing_b
 
 instead of
 
 testing_b: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post testing_b
 
 
  Sep 17 19:56:41 h1228898 postfix/smtpd[10550]: disconnect from
 mail.gmx.net[213.165.64.20]
  Sep 17 19:56:41 h1228898 postfix/local[10555]: 3BAE917443AD:
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0.1,
 delays=0.08/0.01/0/0.02, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (temporary failure. 
 Command output: local:
 fatal: execvp /usr/local/testing_b/mail/testing_b: No such file or
 directory )
  
  What can I do to det it to run?
 
 
 Fix your aliases.
 
Exactly that was it. Thank you very very much. :-)
Mailman and postfix are working now.
Your hints were really a very good support.

Best regards, Kai
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[Mailman-Users] Question to mailman and postfix

2007-09-17 Thread Kai Behncke
Dear list,

as I had no success in combining mailman and sendmail I try it now with mailman 
and postfix.

I configured mailman like:
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-groupname=mailman 
--with-username=mailman --with-mail-gid=nogroup --with-cgi-gid=www-data 
--with-mailhost=h1228898.stratoserver.net 
--with-urlhost=h1228898.stratoserver.net

and installed it.

In the log-files of mailman there are no errors at all.

Again I can create new list and subscribe users.
But if I write a mail from my gmx-account to the new list/testing_b) it`s not 
delivered.


In the log-file of Postfix it`s written:

Sep 17 19:56:41 h1228898 postfix/smtpd[10550]: connect from 
mail.gmx.net[213.165.64.20]
Sep 17 19:56:41 h1228898 postfix/smtpd[10550]: 3BAE917443AD: 
client=mail.gmx.net[213.165.64.20]
Sep 17 19:56:41 h1228898 postfix/cleanup[10554]: 3BAE917443AD: 
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 17 19:56:41 h1228898 postfix/qmgr[10525]: 3BAE917443AD: from=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], size=1134, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Sep 17 19:56:41 h1228898 local[10556]: fatal: execvp 
/usr/local/testing_b/mail/testing_b: No such file or directory
Sep 17 19:56:41 h1228898 postfix/smtpd[10550]: disconnect from 
mail.gmx.net[213.165.64.20]
Sep 17 19:56:41 h1228898 postfix/local[10555]: 3BAE917443AD: to=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0.1, delays=0.08/0.01/0/0.02, dsn=4.3.0, 
status=deferred (temporary failure. Command output: local: fatal: execvp 
/usr/local/testing_b/mail/testing_b: No such file or directory )

What can I do to det it to run?
Thank you again very much.






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[Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman in combination with sendmail

2007-09-15 Thread Kai Behncke
Dear list,

I try to get to run mailman 2.1.9 with sendmail on Debian 4.0.

With mailman everything seems to be fine.
Well, I can create new lists and get a confirmation of that.
Check_perms -f says that everything is all right and in the log-files of
mailman are no errors at all.

I configured it with:

 ./configure  --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-mail-gid=mail 
--with-cgi-gid=www-data --with-mailhost=h1228898.stratoserver.net 
--with-urlhost=h1228898.stratoserver.net

With: --with-mail-gid=mail I am not so very sure.
In the manual is written: On systems using sendmail, the ‘sendmail.cf’ 
configuration file
designates the group id of sendmail processes using the DefaultUser option.

So I watched sendmail.cf and it`s written:
# default UID (can be username or userid:groupid)
O DefaultUser=mail:mail

I added the user mail with useradd -g mail -s /bin/false mail
 - so this should be correct?

Sendmail I installed with: apt-get install sendmail


In /etc/aliases I have the default-mailmanlist and I have:


help:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post help
help-admin:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin help
help-bounces:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces help
help-confirm:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm help
help-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join help
help-leave:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave help
help-owner:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner help
help-request:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request help
help-subscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe help
help-unsubscribe:  |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe help

After that I did newaliases and got a confirmation of that.

In sendmail.cf there is No entry for smrsh, so I should not have that.

The problem is still: If I send a mail to the mailinglist it`s not posted to 
the members of the list.

Has anybode experiences with mailman in combination with sendmail?
Is there anything that is important to look at?

What I don`t understand: If I get a confirmation after creating a mailinglist 
or after subscribing a user to a list
it should mean that sendmail runs correctly? Or not

Thank you very much, Kai
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[Mailman-Users] Problem to install mailman from source

2007-09-10 Thread Kai Behncke
Dear list,

after the problem I had yesterday in getting to run mailman-lists I try to 
install it now from source.
I use Debian 4.0 and mailman.2.1.19

In the directory /usr/local/mailman/mailman-2.1.19 I run as root:

./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-mail-gid=mailman 
--with-cgi-gid=www-data  --with-mailhost=www.tourismus-osnabrueck.de 
--with-urlhost=www.tourismus-osnabrueck.de

after that a make and a make install, everything seems to be fine.

But: If I look then in /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py

there are no special entries, it looks like:


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This module contains your site-specific settings.

From a brand new distribution it should be copied to mm_cfg.py.  If you have 
already have an mm_cfg.py, be careful to add in only the new settings you
want.  Mailman's installation procedure will never overwrite your mm_cfg.py
file.

The complete set of distributed defaults, with documentation, are in the file
Defaults.py.  In mm_cfg.py, override only those you want to change, after the

  from Defaults import *

line (see below).

Note that these are just default settings; many can be overridden via the
administrator and user interfaces on a per-list or per-user basis.



###
# Here's where we get the distributed defaults.

from Defaults import *

##
# Put YOUR site-specific settings below this line.
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Because of that (it seems) my mailman does not run.
How can this be???


Thank you very much, Kai










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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem to install mailman from source

2007-09-10 Thread Kai Behncke
Hello Mark,

 
 --with-mailhost= is the domain to which you address list mail. Do you
 really send your list mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 In your previous posts, your mail host was lists.gforge.geoplp.de
 

Yes, thats true. I have cleaned my system and do now everything from the 
beginning on, I also use another domain.
I do it (nearly) the way that is described in the GNU Mailman Installation 
Manual.


 What special entries are you looking for? What you have is an mm_cfg.py
 from a fresh install. Did you have a previous mm_cfg.py at
 /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py? If so, it shouldn't have been
 overwritten, but if it was somewhere else, it's still there.
 


All right, I thought if I would use the configure-parameter 
(e.g. --with-mailhost=www.tourismus-osnabrueck.de) they would be written 
automatically in the mm_cfg.py.

So if I have a fresh mm_cfg.py I can write own entries there and 
after starting mailman again they are used??

 According to the aliases you previously posted, your prior mailman was
 in /var/lib/mailman. Do you now have two Mailman installations, one in
 /var/lib/mailman with lists and appropriate sendmail aliases and one
 in /usr/local/mailman with no lists and no sendmail aliases?

No. In the moment I just have one mailman installation (installed by source) in 
/usr/local/mailman.
I not even have sendmail in the moment.
By now I would like to get shure that all with my mailman-installation so far 
is correct.

If I run /bin/check_perms it looks very good.

 
 What do you mean your Mailman doesn't run? Please be more specific.

If I run /bin/mailmanctl start

I get missing the mailinglist mailman, surely because I have not installed 
sendmail and done entries in the /etc/aliases.

This will be next step. 
Thank you very much again, Kai 
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[Mailman-Users] Newbie Question: Can`t send mails to my list

2007-09-09 Thread Kai Behncke
Dear list,
since a couple of hours I try to get to run an own mailinglist.

I did the following steps:

- I installed as root on my Debian 4.0 mailman with apt-get install mailman

- I ran: /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms and changed permissions at the errors 
that occured. Meanwhile there is no error anymore.

- I adapted the pathes at the mm_cfg.py-Script and I wrote the -I hope -correct 
entries in the httpd.conf of Apache

If I run:
http://lists.gforge.geoplp.de/mailman/admin

I come to the administration-area.
As an administrator I can create new mailinglists (e.g. the list testa and 
get a confirmation mail of that.

I can register users at the list that get as well a confirmation.


But then comes the problem: As a user I want to write a mail to that list. But 
that mail never reaches the mailinglist members.
After a couple of seconds I get a mail-delivery message from my client:

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
retry timeout exceeded

What am I doing wrong? Please help! Thank you kindly in advance, Kai

 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie Question: Can`t send mails to my list

2007-09-09 Thread Kai Behncke
Hi Dennis,



 I think you'll find that
 list.gforge.geoplp.de
 does not exist but
 
 gforge.geoplp.de
 
 does exist and accepts mail.
 
 At any rate I sent a test email to:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 and it was not returned.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Dennis

unfortunately I get also in this case a Mail delivery failed.
Nevertheless thank you :-)

In the moment I check out the points at FAQ troubleshooting.
It might has something to do with the configuration of sendmail.

Best regards, Kai

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie Question: Can`t send mails to my list

2007-09-09 Thread Kai Behncke
Hello Mark,

 This is definitely an MTA (sendmail) and/or DNS issue.
 
 Have you installed the Mailman aliases for your list(s).
 
 Have you looked in sendmail's maillog to see what it's trying to do?

Thank you for answering. For me as a mailman/sendmail newbie this is really not 
easy.

Well, the Mailman aliases I had already inserted in /etc/mail/aliases

like that:
mailman:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
mailman-admin:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman
mailman-bounces:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman
mailman-confirm:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman
mailman-join: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman
mailman-leave:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman
mailman-owner:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman
mailman-request:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman
mailman-subscribe:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman
mailman-unsubscribe:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman

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If I look at the sendmail-log is says at /var/log/mail.log (I think this is the 
right logfile?):

Sep  9 19:30:00 h1228898 sm-mta[9439]: l89HU0cm009439: from=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], size=1872, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
Sep  9 19:30:00 h1228898 sm-mta[9442]: l89HU0vb009442: from=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], size=1944, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
Sep  9 19:30:01 h1228898 sm-mta[9444]: l89HU0vb009442: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=229944, relay=mx0.gmx.net. 
[213.165.64.100], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Message accepted {mx057})
Sep  9 19:30:01 h1228898 sm-mta[9441]: l89HU0cm009439: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=229872, 
relay=mx0.stratoserver.net. [81.169.163.94], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK 
id=1IUQbh-0001o6-RB)
Sep  9 19:30:50 h1228898 sm-mta[9451]: l89HUnA7009451: from=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], size=1957, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
Sep  9 19:31:09 h1228898 sm-mta[9453]: STARTTLS=client, 
relay=mail-in-2.serv.uni-osnabrueck.de., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, 
cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256
Sep  9 19:31:13 h1228898 sm-mta[9453]: l89HUnA7009451: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
delay=00:00:23, xdelay=00:00:23, mailer=esmtp, pri=229957, 
relay=mail-in-2.serv.uni-osnabrueck.de. [131.173.17.163], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent 
(l89HV4Rg012816 Message accepted for delivery)
Sep  9 19:31:35 h1228898 sm-mta[9456]: l89HVZZ1009456: from=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], size=2071, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
Sep  9 19:31:38 h1228898 sm-mta[9458]: l89HVZZ1009456: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=esmtp, pri=230071, 
relay=mail-in-3.serv.uni-osnabrueck.de. [131.173.17.149], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent 
(l89HVZ6x026973 Message accepted for delivery)

What could that mean?

You wrote it could be a DNS-problem?
What do you mean with that?
Do I need  a DNS-Server to use mailman/sendmail?

Thank you very much!!
Kai





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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie Question: Can`t send mails to my list

2007-09-09 Thread Kai Behncke
Hello Mark,

 These are only for the mailman list. You need another set of 10 like
 
 complicate:  |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post complicate
 complicate-admin:|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin complicate
 etc.
 
 for the 'complicate' list and simarly for all other mailman lists. Then
 you need to run the newaliases command to update the actual sendmail
 database after you add the aliases to /etc/mail/aliases.
 
 This may fix the entire problem,
 

Thanks again. I checked that out with a new mailinglist and made the required 
entires but again I got after 2 or three seconds a Mail-Delivery-Failure.

I wonder: Is there a way that these entries are made automatically 
in the aliases or is it the common way to make them manually?

I think I need to do some more tests here that night and tomorrow.
I really want mailman to get to run, but it might be still a long way.

Again, thank you very much, Kai
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie Question: Can`t send mails to my list

2007-09-09 Thread Kai Behncke
Hello everybody,

I think I will try a complete new installation of mailman and sendmail to have 
fresh systems.

Are there reasons against compiling with apt-get install mailman/sendmail ?
Would it be better to try with downloading source-code /configure /make /make 
install ?

Thanky, Kai
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