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[Mailman-Users] /bin/sh: mailman: command not found

2007-06-06 Thread Ken Cheney

I have seen this error asked about many times and all seem to point to 
crontab.in and something in the 6th position.
   
  However I am a mailman/Linux n00b.  How do I fix this? 
   
  Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailman 
/usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 

   
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[Mailman-Users] Lists nested in other lists

2007-01-25 Thread Ken Cheney

I know I have seen some documentation on being able to have lists nested in 
other lists.  I can't seem to locate it now.
   
  What I want to do is have someone subscribe to a list such as - hockey player 
- and by virtue of subscribing to that list they are part of the Athletics list.
   
  So they will then receive messages sent to both the Athletics list and the 
Hockey Player lists.
   
  Is this possible?

 
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[Mailman-Users] /bin/sh: mailman: command not found

2007-01-22 Thread Ken Cheney

  I get a million of these messages from Cron.  Subject: [Mailman] Cron <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> mailman/usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news
   
  I have read that it is because of something messed up with the crontab.in or 
soemthing.  Something to do with the place #6 or something like that.
   
  I really did not find the message helpful at all since I know very little 
about cron in general.
   
  Can someone help?
   
  Otherwise I have Mailman fully functional on Fedora Core 6 and love it!

 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] [EMAIL PROTECTED] isnt working

2006-12-05 Thread Ken Cheney

The problem with the unsubscribing via email has been solved The solution 
was simple.  NO FIREWALL RULE SET!! Once I added this to my firewall subscribes 
and unsubscribes work fine.

Now for the relaying to my own domain issue  I will post another to the 
list once I get some more information.

Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ken Cheney wrote:
>
>should I be looking somewhere other than main.cf?

If you mean Postfix's main.cf, that may be it or it could be in your MX
records or ?

>Patrick Bogen 
 wrote: On 12/4/06, Ken Cheney  wrote:
>> x.x.50.2 is one of my DNS servers it has no email funcionality at all.

Well, accordilng to the maillog entry you quoted earlier

>   Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/smtp[2580]: 0C3CA2184C3:
>   to=, relay=mydomain.com[10.180.50.2], delay=0,
>   status=bounced (host mydomain.com[10.180.50.2] said: 550 5.7.1 Unable to 
> relay for
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (in reply to RCPT TO command))

Postfix on the mailman machine connected to port 25 [10.180.50.2] in
order to deliver a message to  and something
there answered the connect and spoke enough SMTP to get as far as
receiving a RCPT TO command and to respond that it couldn't relay to
mydomain.com.

Were all the occurrences of mydomain.com in that log entry actually the
same domain before you munged them? It seems pretty strange that a
server at mydomain.com[10.180.50.2] would think it a) needed to relay
to mydomain.com, and b) couldn't. What does [10.180.50.2] think it's
host name is?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [EMAIL PROTECTED] isnt working

2006-12-04 Thread Ken Cheney

I have internal DNS that is marginally different than external DNS.

My internal DNS points to the internal IP of my exchange server and the 
internal IP of my listserv.

My external DNS points to the external IPs of each.  They are correct.

should I be looking somewhere other than main.cf?

Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/4/06, Ken Cheney  wrote:
> x.x.50.2 is one of my DNS servers it has no email funcionality at all.  I
> thought that postfix sent the mail.. meaning not relayed off of something
> else.

Email works by mail servers relaying mail to each other until it gets
to a server that (believes) it can deliver it locally. There is either
something wrong with the MX records in your domain, or your Postfix
server is actually set to relay mail to the DNS, for some reason.
Check your postfix config for settings related to relaying or
smarthosts, and check your DNS config to see if all your MX records
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Re: [Mailman-Users] [EMAIL PROTECTED] isnt working

2006-12-04 Thread Ken Cheney

x.x.50.2 is one of my DNS servers it has no email funcionality at all.  I 
thought that postfix sent the mail.. meaning not relayed off of something else.

Ken

Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Patrick Bogen wrote:
>
>>   Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/smtp[2580]: 0C3CA2184C3:
>>   to=, relay=mydomain.com[10.180.50.2], delay=0,
>>   status=bounced (host mydomain.com[10.180.50.2] said: 550 5.7.1 Unable to 
>> relay for
>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (in reply to RCPT TO command))
>The message was to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The server attempted to
>deliver this by connecting to mydomain.com (IP 10.180.50.2), which
>refused to relay to the address [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Patrick obviously paid more attention to this error than I did.
Patrick's analysis of the relaying failure is correct.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [EMAIL PROTECTED] isnt working

2006-12-04 Thread Ken Cheney

there are log entries in maillog that say 
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/smtpd[2573]: connect from 
listserv.mydomain.com[127.0.0.1]
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/smtpd[2573]: 0C3CA2184C3: 
client=listserv.mydomain.com[127.0.0.1]
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/cleanup[2576]: 0C3CA2184C3: 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/qmgr[2438]: 0C3CA2184C3: from=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, size=3775, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/smtpd[2573]: disconnect from 
listserv.mydomain.com[127.0.0.1]
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/smtp[2580]: 0C3CA2184C3: to=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, relay=mydomain.com[10.180.50.2], delay=0, status=bounced (host 
mydomain.com[10.180.50.2] said: 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(in reply to RCPT TO command))
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/cleanup[2576]: 34EAD2184EA: 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/qmgr[2438]: 34EAD2184EA: from=<>, size=5858, 
nrcpt=1 (queue active)
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/qmgr[2438]: 0C3CA2184C3: removed
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/local[2577]: 34EAD2184EA: to=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (delivered to command: 
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman)
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/qmgr[2438]: 34EAD2184EA: removed
 
  If that part where is says "removed" means that they are off the list - they 
aren't.
   
  This is the vette log says:

  
Dec 04 08:25:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:25:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:30:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:30:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:35:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:35:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:40:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:40:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:45:04 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:45:04 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:50:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:50:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:55:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:55:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:00:04 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:00:04 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:00:05 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:00:05 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:05:05 2006 (2374) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:05:05 2006 (2374) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:10:03 2006 (2374) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:10:03 2006 (2374) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:15:03 2006 (2374) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:15:03 2006 (2374) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:20:04 2006 (2374) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:20:04 2006 (2374) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
   
  I am very confused.  Could the fact that it wont relay to my local domain be 
the problem?
   
  ken

Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Ken Cheney wrote:
>
>Given that I am very new to Mailman/Postfix/Linux... where would I find the 
>MTA logs?


Maybe /var/log/maillog; maybe

Re: [Mailman-Users] [EMAIL PROTECTED] isnt working

2006-12-01 Thread Ken Cheney

Given that I am very new to Mailman/Postfix/Linux... where would I find the MTA 
logs?  how would I tell if the message made it to mailman.  Come to think of it 
I have seen in logs where it say [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been removed from the 
list.  Yet my email address is still on the list.

  Thanks.
  Ken

Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Ken Cheney wrote:

>When I send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the names don't unsubscribe from the 
>lists.

Does the mail reach Mailman? Is anything returned to the sender? What
does the MTA log say it did with the mail?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Private lists and trouble shooting unsubscribes

2006-11-30 Thread Ken Cheney

I send email to the list using my corprate Outlook client to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
what setting do i have in error that logs [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  I dont have a mail client on the list server at all.  Strickly 
command line shell only.
   
  The place I am looking is in the main page after login I click on the link on 
the right that says "Tend to pending moderator requests"

Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  On 11/30/06, Ken Cheney wrote:
> I do have access to the box that mailman is on. The vette log shows:
>
> Nov 29 08:05:02 2006 (11992) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> held,
> message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Post by non-member to a members-only list
The address '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' is not a member of the list.
That is the address you sent the message from. However, this indicates
the message was held, not rejected or discarded. Are you sure you're
looking at the correct place when you say it doesn't show up as a
moderation task?

> but the email address I sent to this list from is a member of the list. Is
> this a problem maybe in the aliases file?
>
> alias_database = hash:/etc/mailman/aliases
> alias_maps = hash:/etc/mailman/aliases
I don't think you need both of these. I'm not completely sure,
however. This might have something to do with why listname-leave isn't
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Private lists and trouble shooting unsubscribes

2006-11-30 Thread Ken Cheney

I do have access to the box that mailman is on. The vette log shows:

Nov 29 08:05:02 2006 (11992) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list

but the email address I sent to this list from is a member of the list.  Is 
this a problem maybe in the aliases file?

alias_database = hash:/etc/mailman/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/mailman/aliases


Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/29/06, Ken Cheney  wrote:
> Thank you.  Here are my settings for Privacy Options:
>
>   Member Filters:
>   By Default, should new list member postings be moderated?  = Yes
>   Action Taken? = Hold
>   NonMember Filters:
>   Action to take for postings from nonmembers for which no explicit action is 
> defined? = Hold
>   Should messages from non-memebers, which are are discarded be fwded to 
> moderator? =
>   Yes
>
>   As a member of the list with the mod box checked I email the list.  The 
> list not only doesnt
>   make it to the recipients but it doesnt show up in the "Pending moderator 
> requests" section.
Do you have access to the system logs on the machine mailman is
running on? Can you check mailman's vette log (someone correct me if
I'm wrong, please) to see what's happening to the messages you post?

>   Here are also things that don't work which could lead to the problem, they 
> dont sound like
>   they would but I will post them anyway.
>   emailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not remove members from the list.
>   if i email from the list owner the emails go to all the list members except 
> the members of the
>   list that have email addresses on my work domain.  Example:
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - get message
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - get message
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - does not get message

Is the machine handling mail for mydomain.com the same machine as that
on which mailman runs?
Can you check your MTA (e.g., sendmail, postfix, exim, or qmail) logs
to see what's happening to the request you send to listname-leave?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Private lists and trouble shooting unsubscribes

2006-11-29 Thread Ken Cheney

Thank you.  Here are my settings for Privacy Options:
   
  Member Filters:
  By Default, should new list member postings be moderated?  = Yes
  Action Taken? = Hold
  NonMember Filters:
  Action to take for postings from nonmembers for which no explicit action is 
defined? = Hold
  Should messages from non-memebers, which are are discarded be fwded to 
moderator? = Yes
   
  As a member of the list with the mod box checked I email the list.  The list 
not only doesnt make it to the recipients but it doesnt show up in the "Pending 
moderator requests" section.
   
  Here are also things that don't work which could lead to the problem, they 
dont sound like they would but I will post them anyway.
  emailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not remove members from the list.
  if i email from the list owner the emails go to all the list members except 
the members of the list that have email addresses on my work domain.  Example:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - get message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - get message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - does not get message
   
  Thanks!!!

Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  This is where you want to adjust the setting I mentioned. If it's
already set to Hold (and not Discard or Reject), then there is
probably something else wrong, which is why you need to keep the
conversation on-list. As willing as I am to help, I don't have perfect
knowledge of Mailman.

- Patrick Bogen

On 11/29/06, Ken Cheney wrote:
> I think I found it... Under privacy|sender filters.
>
> Ken Cheney wrote:
>
> I will send the solution to the list after this email because I dont want
> the list subscribers to see how stupid I am at this point! Right now I cant
> find where to set member_mod now... I thought it was on one of the web
> screens. Once the list is created do I need to now change it via the
> command line? or is everything available somewhere in the mailman web ui?
>
> I am pretty sure somewhere along the line i set all the users to be in the
> "hold" space for nonmoderators or list owners. I am wondering if I have
> some other problem since i can't unsubscribe by emailing to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...
>
> Ken
>
> Patrick Bogen 
wrote:
> On 11/29/06, Ken Cheney wrote:
> > First let me say I am very new to Mailman, very new to Linux, and very new
> to mailing
> > lists. (it took me 2 days to get the listserv to even send out :( )
> >
> > I have the listserv up and sending to my lists; however, I would like to
> make the lists only
> > emailable from the list owner. I saw one post that referred to a FAQ but
> it was not very
> > clear to me on how to do it. So, how do I limit the person that can send
> to the mailing list
> > to only the list owner/administrator/moderator? I have set all list
> members to be
> > moderated, yet they dont show up on the "tend to pending moderator tasks"
> link.
>
> What are 'they'? The users don't show up. If a moderated user sends a
> message, and member_moderation_action is set to 'Hold,' then the
> message will show up in the admin interface.
>
> The general way to do what you want is: set all members to moderated.
> Set 'default_member_moderation' for the list to 'Yes'. Set
> 'member_moderation_action' to 'Hold' if you want to see attempts by
> the members to post, and have the opportunity to approve them. Set it
> to 'reject,' otherwise, which will bounce the message and tell the
> user why. To allow certain users (based on email address) to
> automatically post, add their email addresses to
> accept_these_nonmembers. This is probably the easiest, although least
> secure, way to do this.
>
> The better (though potentially more complex and difficult) way to do
> this is to include the list password on any emails sent, which will
> automatically bypass the sender filters. There are two ways to do
> this: Either as a header in the email (this can be difficult,
> depending on which email client you're using), or as the first line in
> the email (this can be very tricky if you're sending HTML email. For
> normal text, it should be fairly foolproof). Either way, the
> header/line should look like:
>
> Approved:
>
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2006-11-29 Thread Ken Cheney

When I send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the names don't unsubscribe from the 
lists.
   
  Why would that be?
   
  Thanks.


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2006-11-29 Thread Ken Cheney

First let me say I am very new to Mailman, very new to Linux, and very new to 
mailing lists.  (it took me 2 days to get the listserv to even send out :( )
   
  I have the listserv up and sending to my lists; however, I would like to make 
the lists only emailable from the list owner.  I saw one post that referred to 
a FAQ but it was not very clear to me on how to do it. So, how do I limit the 
person that can send to the mailing list to only the list 
owner/administrator/moderator?  I have set all list members to be moderated, 
yet they dont show up on the "tend to pending moderator tasks" link.
   
  Any help would be appreciated.
   
   
   
   

 
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