Re: [Mailman-Users] Availability of patches on Launchpad
Do we have any idea yet when this will be done? It would be nice to find the patches. I am especially looking for the one that allows html footers to use it to solve the AOL problem that no one either knows how or volunteered to write a script to gather the redacted ARF addresses from the mail log. I remember there once was a mod to make the headers and footers html, and wanted to see if that would work. Date sent: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:47:32 -0700 From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Not Very Much Copies to: mailman-users@python.org Subject:Re: [Mailman-Users] Availability of patches on Launchpad > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > >Richard Barrett writes: > > > > > I guess it is not intended that the old approach with sourceforge of > > > putting enhancements into the tracker with patch files attached, > > > should be followed with Launchpad. I expect someone is going to tell > > > me I should create my own branches of Mailman on Launchpad for each > > > of my enhancement and publish what were patch file contents in that > > > way. > > > >I imagine that is the "preferred method" for *future* patches, but > >since Canonical is after World Domination Now (or at least a market > >share that requires units greater than nano-percents to measure), they > >had better not lose history this way. I advise you to assume that > >this is just a bug (albeit a rather distressing one) that will be > >fixed in due time, until somebody says otherwise. > > > Stephen is correct that this is a serious bug in the migration process. > It was not intended that anything would be culled or lost in this > process. > > It appears that the same problem existed in the "demo" that was > announced last month > (<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2008-August/020345.html> > and > <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2008-August/063021.html>), > but it wasn't caught. > > Nothing is permanently lost as the SourceForge trackers still exist. > They just aren't currently accessible by other than project members. > > Unfortunately, Barry may not yet be aware of this as at least > yesterday, the primary MX for list.org was not working, but I'm > confident that this problem will be fixed. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40viplist.us > > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Splitting Subject
I saw that, but it is not really an answer as te problem is that it is inserting a TAB, not whitespace, and that is what is causing the problem. A carriage return and spaces would be fine. The tab is what most clients cannot handle. - Original Message - Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Splitting Subject Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 14:21:53 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Zwanzig) In a flurry of recycled electrons, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: > Am having a problem where Mailman is splitting a subject and adding a "\n" > and what seems to be a tab in the subject line in the mail logs.(The tab is > what can be seen in the headers after the message is sent.) This of course, > makes for a wrong display in mail clients. This was just discussed last week (or the week before). In short, the subject-line folding is correct, the mail client behavour is not. Please check this list's archives for a discussion. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman- users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman- users/lists%40viplist.us Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw- mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Splitting Subject
Am having a problem where Mailman is splitting a subject and adding a "\n" and what seems to be a tab in the subject line in the mail logs.(The tab is what can be seen in the headers after the message is sent.) This of course, makes for a wrong display in mail clients. They only thing I can see, is that the break occurs in the same place and it is shown in the view message screen. The pck does not show any control characters there, however, so it must be doing it on transport. Sending the exact same email with the same subject not through Mailman does not have the same problem. MTA is exim 4.66. Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Auto responders - How to Ignore
I am getting over half of my Mailman messages returned with auto- responders and naturally that is causing havoc with the bounce management features of Mailman. Has anyone written and or fixed the bounce processors for Mailman so that they actually handle the most common "bounces" - the out of the office? It is woefully lacking as is every single other auto-responder. That being the most common return, how can we make Mailman work with them? I get about 250,000 a week. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe from All Lists on Webpage for User
That sends a confirmation for each list - which is NOT what I want. That falls under the heading of major pain for mailing list subscriber. Date sent: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:17:19 -0700 From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailman-users@python.org Organization: Not Very Much Subject:Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe from All Lists on Webpage for User > Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: > > >I would like to be able to have a main page where a person can remove > >themselves from all lists on the server with just one command/entry. I know > >they can eventually get to the unsubscribe all button, but I want to be able > >to > >have an all button like some of the large list services have. > > > Is there a global 'unsubscribe all' button? If so, I don't know where > it is. > > > >I have thought of making a master list and having that on the main page - > >but > >cannot find an easy way to link to that unsubscribe all button. I do not > >see a > >way that the umbrella can help me here either. > > > If you view the HTML source of the page that contains the button, you > should be able to replicate the form HTML anywhere you want. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40viplist.us > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > > -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe from All Lists on Webpage for User
I would like to be able to have a main page where a person can remove themselves from all lists on the server with just one command/entry. I know they can eventually get to the unsubscribe all button, but I want to be able to have an all button like some of the large list services have. I have thought of making a master list and having that on the main page - but cannot find an easy way to link to that unsubscribe all button. I do not see a way that the umbrella can help me here either. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Can we use an external mail server with mailman ?
Actually, I found a mod someone had written to do exactly that. In mm_cfg.py need to set these values: SMTPHOST = 'mail.newserver' #SMTP_USERNAME = 'username' #SMTP_PASSWORD = 'password' #DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' DELIVERY_MODULE = 'ASMTPDirect' # Needs to be 1 for ASMTPDirect to work SMTP_AUTH = 1 and use the attached ASMTPDirect file. I no longer use this, so this has not been updated to 2.16, so you mau want to check it all out. The was orginally received from someone else on this list, so I do not take credit for it. From: John Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: julien grosjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:53:12 -0400 Copies to: mailman-users@python.org Subject:Re: [Mailman-Users] Can we use an external mail server with mailman ? > On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 16:27 +0200, julien grosjean wrote: > > MAIL SERVER DETAILS > > > > My Mail Server is NOT on the same server than my mailman server... > > My mail server is proxiad.com (217.109.179.10) with smtp.proxiad.com and > > pop.proxiad.com (This server requiert an authentification... ) > > > > My mailman server is extranet-proxiad.com (193.252.219.206) > > > > All emails are create on the mail server. > > The mail server receive the mail correctly. > > With my mail client, [EMAIL PROTECTED] receive the mail, but not > > suscribers... > > > THE PROBLEM : > > > > I create a test list via web interface. > > > > We can suscribe to the list, but the problem is than when we sent an > > email to the list email, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > just this email receive the mail... > > Only [EMAIL PROTECTED] receive the mail from the sender... > > Is there a configuration to make ? > > > > > > > > Perhaps there is an aliases problem ? > > > > Should aliases be on the mail server or on the mailman server ? > > Part of the problem is the term mail server can be confusing because > there are two mail servers in the picture, a receiving mail server and a > sending mail server. Mailman needs run on the same machine the receiving > mail server is on otherwise your aliases will not work. The reason is > because when the receving mail server receives an email destined for a > mailman list the mail server will via its aliases determine the > destination for that list email is a program called mailman, thats what > all those aliases are all about. The receiving mail server then hands > the incoming list email to the program mailman. It can only give it to > the program mailman if mailman is running on the same machine. > > Mailman in turn takes the email it received and looks up all the members > of the list and forwards the email to each of them. To do this mailman > invokes a sending mail server. Often the sending and receiving mail > servers (SMTP) are the same and run on the same box. But you can direct > mailman to use a different sending SMTP server via the SMTPHOST > variable. > > Summary: mailman and the receiving SMTP server must be on the same > machine. > > You description is a bit confusing because the way I read it mailman has > in fact received the list email (your previous post shows mailman > sending smtp posts). It could only have done that if it the its running > on the same machine as the receiving SMTP server and the aliaes are > correct. I suspect what actually occurred is those are examples from > mail sent on the machine mailman is running on where everything will > resolve correctly. > -- > John Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40viplist.us > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > > # Copyright (C) 1998-2003 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License # as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 # of the License, or (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software # Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. """Local SMTP direct drop-off w/Authtenication. This module delivers messages via SMTP to a locally specified daemon. This should be compatible wit
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist
I actually have had zero problems with them after the initial whitelisting eighteen months ago - except it took over a week when I moved my server. (They said it should take 48 hours.) I send almost 300,000 to them three times a week - all without problems, plus normal hosting emails. They are always extremely responsive. Now with all the changes in Hotmail last week - THEY are a problem. Their whitelist through BondedSender.com will cost me almost three grand a year. - Original Message - Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:26:55 -0700 From: Heather Madrone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 9:15 PM +0100 9/22/05, Martin Dennett wrote: >Oh, and just as an aside, myself and my co-moderators have given very >serious thought to banning AOL addresses on our list. Not a decision >we've taken lightly, but after 3 such instances with the same ISP in >less than 5 months (and no othe ISP giving us anywhere near the amount >of trouble that they have), it's time for action. That's what I've done. AOL was an ongoing headache, and I got tired of their high-handedness. AOL subscribers who want to receive my list can use free yahoo or gmail accounts, and many of them do. -- Heather Madrone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Home-Ed List: http://www.madrone.com/Home-ed/helist.html You can lead a child to learning, but you can't make her think. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman- users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman- users/lists%40viplist.us Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw- mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Master Unsubscribe
I would like to be able to have a main page where a person can remove themselves from all lists on the server with just one command/entry. I know they can eventually get to the unsubscribe all button, but I want to be able to have an all button like some of the large list services have. I have thought of making a master list and having that on the main page - but cannot find an easy way to link to that unsubscribe all button. I do not see a way that the umbrella can help me here either. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist
Try this patch. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=982644&group_id=1 03&atid=300103 Date sent: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:08:55 +0100 From: "Jon Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject:[Mailman-Users] AOL Whitelist > Hi List > > After about a year of trying, I think I have finally got AOL to > whitelist my (subscription only!) mailing list :-( > > http://postmaster.aol.com/cgi-bin/whitelist.pl (if anyone is interested) > > In the mailing list I have around 1500 members with aol addresses with > their 'nosend' ticked. Obviously, after repeated bounces mailman has > given up trying to send it to them. > > I could, through the web interface, untick the 'nosend' flag, to switch > them all back on again which would take ages. > > Is their a way of clearing the nosend flag from the command line for all > @aol.com addresses? > > TIA > > Jon Harris > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40viplist.us > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
Since I do webhosting the SNDS system uses SPF, and SPF does not work if you do mail forwarding. Mail gets denied and end up stuck in my mail queue. The only way is to repackage the email (per SPF website) but then if I forward a repackaged piece of SPAM, it looks now like it came from me. and I get blamed! That's why SPF cannot work in this design - or it seems in any webhosting scenario. Date sent: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:04:38 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Copies to: mailman-users@python.org Subject:Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems > At 12:41 AM -0700 2005-09-21, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: > > > Here is the text of the emails. They are pushing the BondedSender like > > crazy > > - especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender. > > at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail. > > > > An awful lot of passing the buck and saying the same thing over and over > > again. > > You can certainly try their SNDS system, and try to follow > whatever guidelines they have at their postmaster website. As far as > that goes, it doesn't sound significantly different from what AOL > does. > > However, at some point it sounds to me like you will probably > need to decide how much you want your e-mail to get through their > filters. If you want it badly enough, then you will probably pay to > use their bonded sender program. Otherwise, you may be forced to > eliminate all hotmail users from your lists, or at least live with > the fact that most mail from you to hotmail is going to be blocked or > dropped. > > > Good luck! If you find out anything that you think may be of > interest to the broader mail list admin community, please let us know. > > -- > Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > > -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania > Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 > >SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info. > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/lists%40viplist.us > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > > -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
Here is the text of the emails. They are pushing the BondedSender like crazy - especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender. at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail. An awful lot of passing the buck and saying the same thing over and over again. I am very sorry, but we are not able to discuss the details of the filtering strategies or specific filters which MSN Hotmail utilizes in order to combat unwanted e-mail. Our filters are highly confidential and discussion of the specific filter rules would eventually render them useless for all of our Hotmail mailbox owners. For information on common delivery questions please refer to the Hotmail Postmaster Site found at: http://postmaster.msn.com/. MSN Hotmail has also created the Smart Network Data Services program. This is a service that helps legitimate email senders work with their customers and partners to reduce spam originating from their IP. http://postmaster.msn.com/snds/. Additionally you may want to investigate the Microsoft Sender ID program. http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/safety/technologies/senderid/default.msp x. While neither the SNDS nor Sender ID will enable emails from you domain to bypass our filtering system they will help in the fight against spam. That being said, to help minimize future issues please investigate signing up for Bonded Sender at http://www.bondedsender.com. Thank you, Scott Hotmail Technical Support -Original Message- From: Lloyd F. Tennison [mailto:munged] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:01 PM To: GEST HM Inbox Subject: RE: Mail Delivery Problems from My Server, SRX050915606674 My emails are getting blocked by you again. I do not understand what is going on. These are the same clients, the same lists - with almost no changes and you are changing what is going on. I have been sending this same way for over 18 months now with the same type emails. The only people that have added themselves have done so through the websites, with confirmed opt-in. I have only sent three of my lists and I usually have seven on Tuesdays without any problems. I would really appreciate getting this solved, especially since there has not been any changes at my end. There seems to be no reason or logic as to what is going on and are mutual users are getting upset. > > Hi Lloyd, > > I(tm)ll try to answer as much as I can for you: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] is able to receive messages that might otherwise be blocked by > BrightMail, but the final destination (Inbox or JMF) is still a function of our filtering. Since the > account does not maintain a Domain Safe List, it isn(tm)t uncommon for test messages to end up in > JMF. > > I can(tm)t offer help with Symantec since they are a different company with different policies. Usually, > they will tell you if they are filtering your emails, but that is up to them. > > Sender ID is a helpful program, but not necessary for your purposes. > > The Junk Mail Reporting program is a helpful addition to SNDS since it will provide additional details > for you"this is a particularly effective way of cleaning up mailing lists. The program does require > that you have a company website, that you provide the JMRPP with an official Point of Contact, and > that your site has an opt-out link or visible opt-out process. If you are interested in enrolling, please > provide the details required (or information on how to find those details) and we will forward your > request to the JMRPP team: Once approved, they will contact you with further information. > > The benefit of Bonded Sender is that it allows you to bypass our filters (including BrightMail) and > deliver your messages directly into your recipient(tm)s Inbox. On rare occasion an error occurs and a > message will be routed to JMF. When that happens we ask that you contact us ASAP so that we > can rectify that issue. Microsoft and Return Path have a very good working relationship and we are > able to resolve these rare instances quickly. For more details, however, I would have to refer you to > www.bondedsender.com. > > Thank you, > > Shawn > > > MSN Hotmail Technical > Support > > > > > > > > > From: Lloyd F. Tennison [mailto:munged] > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:45 PM > To: GEST HM Inbox > Subject: RE: Mail Delivery Problems from My Server, SRX050915606674 > > > It is interesting that it went to your junk mail folder as it did not on my test accounts and two on the > list itself. > > Symantec will not talk to anyone regarding their technology and/or who is listed. According to the > three different departments there is
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
Here is the text of the emails. They are pushing the BondedSender like crazy - especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender. at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail. An awful lot of passing the buck and saying the same thing over and over again. I am very sorry, but we are not able to discuss the details of the filtering strategies or specific filters which MSN Hotmail utilizes in order to combat unwanted e-mail. Our filters are highly confidential and discussion of the specific filter rules would eventually render them useless for all of our Hotmail mailbox owners. For information on common delivery questions please refer to the Hotmail Postmaster Site found at: http://postmaster.msn.com/. MSN Hotmail has also created the Smart Network Data Services program. This is a service that helps legitimate email senders work with their customers and partners to reduce spam originating from their IP. http://postmaster.msn.com/snds/. Additionally you may want to investigate the Microsoft Sender ID program. http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/safety/technologies/senderid/default.msp x. While neither the SNDS nor Sender ID will enable emails from you domain to bypass our filtering system they will help in the fight against spam. That being said, to help minimize future issues please investigate signing up for Bonded Sender at http://www.bondedsender.com. Thank you, Scott Hotmail Technical Support -Original Message- From: Lloyd F. Tennison [mailto:munged] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:01 PM To: GEST HM Inbox Subject: RE: Mail Delivery Problems from My Server, SRX050915606674 My emails are getting blocked by you again. I do not understand what is going on. These are the same clients, the same lists - with almost no changes and you are changing what is going on. I have been sending this same way for over 18 months now with the same type emails. The only people that have added themselves have done so through the websites, with confirmed opt-in. I have only sent three of my lists and I usually have seven on Tuesdays without any problems. I would really appreciate getting this solved, especially since there has not been any changes at my end. There seems to be no reason or logic as to what is going on and are mutual users are getting upset. > > Hi Lloyd, > > I(tm)ll try to answer as much as I can for you: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] is able to receive messages that might otherwise be blocked by > BrightMail, but the final destination (Inbox or JMF) is still a function of our filtering. Since the > account does not maintain a Domain Safe List, it isn(tm)t uncommon for test messages to end up in > JMF. > > I can(tm)t offer help with Symantec since they are a different company with different policies. Usually, > they will tell you if they are filtering your emails, but that is up to them. > > Sender ID is a helpful program, but not necessary for your purposes. > > The Junk Mail Reporting program is a helpful addition to SNDS since it will provide additional details > for you"this is a particularly effective way of cleaning up mailing lists. The program does require > that you have a company website, that you provide the JMRPP with an official Point of Contact, and > that your site has an opt-out link or visible opt-out process. If you are interested in enrolling, please > provide the details required (or information on how to find those details) and we will forward your > request to the JMRPP team: Once approved, they will contact you with further information. > > The benefit of Bonded Sender is that it allows you to bypass our filters (including BrightMail) and > deliver your messages directly into your recipient(tm)s Inbox. On rare occasion an error occurs and a > message will be routed to JMF. When that happens we ask that you contact us ASAP so that we > can rectify that issue. Microsoft and Return Path have a very good working relationship and we are > able to resolve these rare instances quickly. For more details, however, I would have to refer you to > www.bondedsender.com. > > Thank you, > > Shawn > > > MSN Hotmail Technical > Support > > > > > > > > > From: Lloyd F. Tennison [mailto:munged] > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:45 PM > To: GEST HM Inbox > Subject: RE: Mail Delivery Problems from My Server, SRX050915606674 > > > It is interesting that it went to your junk mail folder as it did not on my test accounts and two on the > list itself. > > Symantec will not talk to anyone regarding their technology and/or who is listed. According to the > three different departments there is
[Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
In the last week, I have started having problems with Hotmail/MSN blocking my server. I have added no new lists, no new subscribers, in fact today I only sent out about 15% of what a normal Tuesday does. They say that they are pushing the BondedSender.com program as a means of whitelisting and blame and problems on Symantec's Brightmail. Yet, I have had no spam complaints, no SPAMCOP, no new lists, no new clients, etc. Has anyone else here had the same problems? It all started when they did a software service upgrade last Wednesday night (They told me they did indeed do a upgrade then.) I just cannot afford $2750 to have Hotmail messages go through - and then $20 each if there is a SPAMCOP complaint. Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] External Archivers - Anyone Have Working Setup
Does anyone have any experience with any of the external archivers? I have looked at the scattered information posted and found most of it is over four years old or that the links are invalid. (All references to kanga.nu in the FAQ's are no invalid. The instructions for MHonArc are four years old.) Since files and features mentioned in the old posting no longer exist in both programs - I am lost. I would like it to both archive and use it to send the digests. Most of the emails on my lists are html, and since pipermail will not handle html at all, the digests come with nothing in them. I have also tried ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER = 2 (or 3) and all it does is delete all html: i.e.: (Non-html text here - then at the bottom of the message) -- next part -- Skipped content of type text/html is what is supposed to be escaped. If someone has an example setup, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Shunting - Where Did they Go?
I am re-asking this as it seems I am not the only one with this problem and none of use received an answer. I had a problem and my MTA restart itself automatically. Mailman threw the following error:(SMTP log) Aug 27 04:38:41 2004 (26555) All recipients refused: please run connect() first Aug 27 04:38:41 2004 (26555) All recipients refused: please run connect() first Aug 27 04:38:41 2004 (26555) All recipients refused: please run connect() first For the remainder of the list - about 20,000 emails. I saw files (about six) in the shunt folder. I waited a couple of hours since I thought Mailman would retry (I also stopped and started Mailman) but to no avail. I saw the "unshunt" command and ran it. No errors and it removed the files from the shunt queue - but then nothing happened again. No pick up wgere left off, no nothing. Tried restarting, even recompiling and restarting, but no difference. Since I am assuming they are gone and the only way to recover if to extract sent ones from the log file - what do I do if this ever happens again? Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Duplicate messages
I know this was asked but I do not see an answer - I have one list that decides to send a lot more than one email to the same person - and it just started. Thoughts? Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] remove_members command
I am doing something wrong or what? I am trying to remove from all lists, a file of members with no notification to anyone: remove_members -nN -f deletes --fromall with deletes being the filename. Can the options -nand -N not be used with fromall? They work otherwise. Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer as attachment in plain text messages
That is exactly as it is setup to work. Since it cannot determine what MIME it is using, the default is text-only. It does not and will not as setup send other than text. Someone would have to rewrite the module to add footers (and headers.) Date sent: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:33:53 -0400 From: Steph Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Mailman-Users] Footer as attachment in plain text messages Send reply to: Steph Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a 2.1 installation of Mailman, for which I own a couple of > mailing lists. These lists have been set up to accept certain MIME > attachments, and also to convert text/html to plain text. This works as > expected. > > We have the default footer enabled, however, it is coming through as a > plain text attachment for all messages, rather than being appended to > the body of the message. I've been looking through the message archives > for Mailman, and have found many recent posts about this happening with > text/html messages. Likewise, the FAQ only refers to this happening with > HTML messages. > > Any ideas on what might cause Mailman to use attachments for the footer > on plain text messages, and how I might change this behavior? > > If there's any other information I can provide, please let me know! > > Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions on where to look! > > Steph > > > -- > When properly administered, vacations do not diminish productivity: for > every week you're away and get nothing done, there's another when your boss > is away and you get twice as much done. > -- Daniel B. Luten > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman issue
How is it referring, by domain name, IP or what. If by domain name, if you are using the same domain name it should not find the old domain unless your registrar info is incorrect. From: "Willy De Roeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Mon, 17 May 2004 11:32:19 +0200 Subject:[Mailman-Users] mailman issue > Can I just ask a question about mailman, a part of cpanel ? > > I have changed from resellerprovider .com to provider .com. All accounts > have been transferred through the backup/restore function in cpanel. > > When I now ask for a mailinglist with my new provider it seems that in the interface > of mailman still refers to the server of the old provider. In the interface of > mailman I do not see a place where I can modify this. Also the new provider does not > know where I can change this. > > Does any one have a clue how and where this path can be adjusted in such a way that > the links refer to the server of my new provider ? > > I will be grateful for ever. > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] suggest about default at admindb.py from DEFER to DISCARD
Why don't you set the value in the admin console in the first place? Under Sender filters, near the bottom: Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action is defined. Set it to discard. Or use this patch already made to discard all: [ mailman-Patches-810675 ] Add 'Discard all messages marked "Defer"' Date sent: Thu, 13 May 2004 00:31:57 +0200 From: Andres Seco Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Mailman-Users] suggest about default at admindb.py from DEFER to DISCARD > Hi all > > I have not found a link to send this wish as a bug in the bug tracking > system at sf.net. I am sorry. Perhaps this is not the correct way, but i > will try it. > > As a lot of pending request to mailman lists are from automatic virus or > spammers, sometimes is necesary (because of the volume) to have a > default option at DISCARD of the pending messages. Any time i update > mailman i need to patch manually admindb.py at line 393 from > > (1, 0, 0, 0)) > > to > > (0, 0, 0, 1)) > > that is, i need to DISCARD pending messages to avoid great grow of it > (too much spam and too much virus). I can not read about 1000 messages > per week looking for valid messages from people not subscribed to the > list when almost all messages (really all the messages) are not valid > and i want to discard all of it. > > It may be a good option to be added in the config page of a list (do you > want pending messages to be discarded by default?). > > Thanks a lot for this good mail list manager. > > -- > Andres Seco Hernandez > http://andressh.net > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- > http://guadawireless.net http://www.debian.org http://www.alamin.org > http://www.redlibre.net http://www.gulalcarria.orghttp://andressh.net > http://objetivosubjetivo.com > --- > Por favor, NO utilice formatos de archivo propietarios para el intercambio > de documentos, como DOC y XLS, sino HTML, PDF, TXT, CSV o cualquier otro > que no obligue a utilizar un programa de un fabricante concreto. > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] generalized specs question
Depends on whether personalized and the size of the emails. I scan usually send 20,000 - 40,000 personalized, 10-15k in under two hours. It also depends on how clean your list is. The more bad addresses the longer it takes. Date sent: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:51:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Pat Riehecky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Mailman-Users] generalized specs question > The site where I work is considering replacing our current listprocessor > (ListProc 6.0c) with either Mailman or Majordomo. So I was > going to as a benchmarking type question, what sort of a system would be > required to run 100 lists each sending out 100 emails a day? Obviously a > 486 /can/ do it, but reasonibly fast sending is nice. (ie would something > like a pentium2 250 with 128 RAM be enough) > > Secondly how long (estimate, please) would it take to send all 1 > emails should they be sent to the lists at the same time? > > Thanks a bunch! > pat > > - > The lines which your eye falls on first here were written last. Their > purpose is to make yet another attempt to force into the form of a letter > the detailed investigation which is sent to you herewith. These lines > correspond, then, with the last lines and together they form an envelope, > thus indicating in an external way what interal proofs in many ways will > convince you of, that this is a letter you are reading. > ~Kierkegaard > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is email merge supported?
Only in headers and footers. Don't I wish it were not so From: "JP Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:57:58 +0200 Subject:[Mailman-Users] Is email merge supported? > Hi > > Can names etc be merged into emails? > > Thanks > JP > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.681 / Virus Database: 443 - Release Date: 10/05/2004 > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] editing From line in anonymous list
You could always hard code it - I think it would be in CookHeaders. Date sent: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:25:48 -0400 From: Ari Jort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Mailman-Users] editing From line in anonymous list > I have a list with the anonymous_list field set to Yes because we > want to rewrite the From and Reply-To headers. > > The result of this setting is that the From: line contains the list > email address e.g.: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > However, I would like to have that From line look like this: > > From: My List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Where the string "My List" could be from the description field on the list. > > Has anyone tried to do that? > > This appear to be impossible to set in the configuration, since the > method in Mailman/MailList.py:getListAddress() only returns an email > address. The code doesn't seem to have a way to get the description. > > There could be a function like this: > > def getFriendlyListAddress(self); > return '%s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' % (self.description, self.internal_name(), > self.host_name) > > with maybe some extra code to handle the situation where > self.description is blank. > > Does this make sense? Has anyone else tried this? > > Thanks, > > > > ari > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender modification
I'm going to ask why it is there at all? I just checked over 50 messages and the only ones I have with the Sender and the Errors headers are those from Mailman. If there are to be RFC compliant - why does no one else have them? (Errors I am guessing are for Mailman - but since it does not read that line...) (Even my tech bulletins from Microsoft, Apple and Symantec do not have them.) From: Richard Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender modification Date sent: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:17:23 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Right near the end of > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp > you will find details of a hack to the MM source code for MM 2.1.x > which changes the Sender: header value from listname-bounces to > listname, while leaving the envelope sender as listname-bounces for > bounce handling. The line number referenced in the FAQ is approximate; > depending on what exact version of MM 2.1.x source you are running you > may find the line to be changed a few either way of the one stipulated. > > This is an attempt to alleviate the pain that some users (and list > admins) appear to experience with the conflation of From: and Sender: > headers in the displayed From field of the web GUI of some versions of > some Microsoft MUAs. If that is your problem, this hack might help. > > With well behaved MTAs that send bounce messages back to the envelope > sender this change should be safe but if it blows up in your face > because a badly behaved MTA sends a bounce back to the Sender header, > which is now the primary list address, and hence to the list itself, it > is on your head; you have been warned. > > That said, the change is one-line-simple and easy to reverse if things > start to go pear shaped. > > On 11 May 2004, at 16:17, Brad Knowles wrote: > > > At 4:54 PM +0200 2004/05/11, cedric gross wrote: > > > >> Is there a way to change the sender of mail (i.e. > >> mailman-user-bounce) with > >> something more humain like : The Mailman User list > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ? > > > > You can go throughout the Mailman code and change listname-bounces to > > whatever you want, but this is not recommended. > > > > Bounces will actually come back to this address, so whatever you do, > > you have to be able to distinguish between bounces and original > > submissions. But if you had a violent opposition to the string > > "-bounces" appearing anywhere, you could change this to be "-fred" or > > whatever else you may want. > > > >> Or must I do it by canonical rewriting ? > > > > That would be an extremely bad idea. You would be destroying vital > > information encoded in the envelope sender address, which could not be > > recovered once a bounce occurred. > > > > See Mailman FAQ 2.2 at > > <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.002.htp> > > and FAW 2.3 at > > <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? > > req=show&file=faq02.003.htp>. > > > > -- > > Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > > -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. > > > > SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info. > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the name of a list
Try this posting: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2001- January/009232.html That seems real simple. The full blown explanation is on list.org: http://list.org/faq.html Date sent: Sat, 8 May 2004 16:56:55 +0100 From: John Poltorak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Mailman-Users] Changing the name of a list > > > What is the best way of changing the name of a list? > > > > -- > John > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] True anonymous list?
Actually it is simpler than that. Just put that in the Handler Cleanse, like so: (at the bottom) # We delete all these extra Headers because I don't want them del msg['X-URL'] del msg['X-Mailer'] del msg['X-Priority'] del msg['Subject'] del msg['received'] Then put the subject back in: msg ['Subject'] = 'Whatever You Want' The only drawback is that now all of the subjects will be the same. > You could deliver the mail to a script that extracts the subject and body > and then reposts it to the list, coming from a generic user. > > If you want to restrict posting to members, you could look up the actual > from address in the list before forwarding the post. > > Would that meet your needs? > > > > > > --On Friday, May 07, 2004 1:10 PM -0400 Michael Balamuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hello list, > > We have been using Mailman 2.0.13 for quite some time, but never with the > > intention of creating a genuinely anonymous mailing list. Now, we have a > > reason to do so, but I have been unable to completely hide the originator > > (poster's) email address from the headers of the sent mail. Obviously, > > anyone knowing how to read the headers will find the address of the > > poster. So, is there a way to make a list anonymous even at this level? > > Any help appreciated. For completeness, I believe I have followed the > > FAQ's and help and set explicit-reply to and hide posters address etc. > > correctly... Maybe not? > > > > Thanks, > > Michael Balamuth > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > Searchable Archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > > > ------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] bounced log
It is in a root access area. You cannot get to it. The bounces *should* be going through to you if you set the general option to send bounces to the list admin. From: "Michel Buitendyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Sun, 2 May 2004 22:51:08 -0600 Subject:[Mailman-Users] bounced log > Hi, > > A quick question. > > My list are part of CPanel and so I have only limited access to some area's > > Where can I find the log who's addresses are bouncing? Is there such a log? > > Thanks a bunch! > > Michel > > > --- > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 4/28/2004 > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Keeping the Publich_HTML subscription page from popping up.
Just change the page. Goto the Public HTML files, then subscriptions results. MIne is real simple: Thank You! I alos have one that runs a java script and after 15 seconds return to the home page of the website that spawned it. From: "Alan Camuto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:58:47 -0400 Subject:[Mailman-Users] Keeping the Publich_HTML subscription page from popping up. > Hi, I'm new to the list and have a question... I created a mailing list on > my server, and added a subscription form to my web site so visitors can > automatically subscribe to the mailing list by entering their e-mail address > and clicking on the submit button. The input form works perfectly, however, > every time they click on submit, they are redirect to the "Subscription > Results" Public HTML page. > > I'd like for the "subscription results" page not to pop up every time an > e-mail address is submitted, or for them to be directed to one of the other > pages on my server. How do I go about turning off the "subscription results" > Public Html page? Is there a tag I can add to keep it from happening? > > Any suggestions are appreciated, > Alan > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives?
I have never used it, but Sourceforge.net lists Smart Archiver as a replacement for pipermail: http://sourceforge.net/projects/smartarchiver/ Maybe someone else has used here? If not and you use, let us all know how it worked out. Date sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:17:35 -0400 From: Paul Tomblin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Mailman-Users] Archives? > Does anybody have any suggestions for archiving software better than the > built-in pipermail? I'd really like something with searching and sorting > functionality. > > -- > Paul Tomblin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ > "The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power > in itself" -John Adams > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] error No template file found: 'archidxentry.html'
Should be in your Mailman/templates folder. If not, put it back in and try again. From: Rodolfo Pilas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: RootWay Date sent: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 14:55:30 -0300 Subject:[Mailman-Users] error No template file found: 'archidxentry.html' > I have just migrate my mailman installation 2.1+ to a new server with > 2.1.4 and I have problems with a couple of lists that do not process > their messages. (I have deleted the list and create again but it > continues receive message and do not send it). > > I have the following error in the logs/error > > Apr 24 03:56:12 2004 (31159) SHUNTING: > 1082664620.461622+ac23d23deec9d0de0b2b78422bfc1fb5c6a6c62f > Apr 24 03:56:13 2004 (31159) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No > template file found: 'archidxentry.html' > Apr 24 03:56:13 2004 (31159) Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 110, in _oneloop > self._onefile(msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 160, in _onefile > keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in > _dispose > mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) > File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 216, in > ArchiveMail > h.close() > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 311, in > close > self.update_dirty_archives() > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 527, in > update_dirty_archives > self.update_archive(i) > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1075, in > update_archive > self.__super_update_archive(archive) > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 431, in > update_archive > self._update_simple_index(hdr, archive, arcdir) > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 452, in > _update_simple_index > self.write_index_entry(article) > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1018, in > write_index_entry > mlist=self.maillist) > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 204, in > quick_maketext > raw=True, mlist=mlist) > File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 485, in findtext > raise IOError(errno.ENOENT, 'No template file found', templatefile) > IOError: [Errno 2] No template file found: 'archidxentry.html' > > Apr 24 03:56:13 2004 (31159) SHUNTING: > 1082665429.6690519+7a21e9a64c3ff7afd1e8af77fca5162c4ff3d42c > > > I have my system in Spanish. > > Do you have any suggestion?? > > -- > Rodolfo Pilas Quien los puso a estos tipos donde estan, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quien los deja seguir en su lugar, > http://rodolfo.pilas.net Quien los baja ahora de su altar, > Yahoo ID: ysidoritoQuien les paga para que hagan lo que haran > ICQ: 17461636 -=# Apocalipsis Now % Cuarteto de Nos #=- > > GnuPG Public Key: gpg --keyserver www.keyserver.net --recv-key 57153363 > Key Fingerprint => DAAE 3246 3F7D A420 B7A0 48A5 D120 C773 5715 3363 > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting caught by SPAM Filters because of Mailman handoff
How did you change the configuration to accomplish that, please. Copies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Richard Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting caught by SPAM Filters because of Mailman handoff Date sent: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:16:55 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On 24 Apr 2004, at 02:10, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: > > > Companies are now starting to block Mailman lists (among others) > > because of the way the headers are sent out stating the hand-off to > > the server: > > > > Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] > > helo=mail.python.org) > > by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) > > id 1BH7Kx-0001vz-7S; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:31:51 > > -0400 > > > > > > Anything with that format - they are marking as "probable SPAM" > > > > Any thoughts on how to zap? > > > > Although I run the outgoing MTA and Mailman on the same machine, my > Mailman SMTP configuration tells it not to address the MTA using > localhost (127.0.0.1) but by the FQDN and IP number which appears in > our globally published MX record for that server. Thus the Received: > header added by the outbound MTA at this juncture refers to reception > form a host (itself) which is resolvable via DNS to an MX record by > MTAs which subsequently handle the message. In that respect, it is thus > fairly indistinguishable from other Received: headers that precede and > follow it. > > Would this be avoid triggering the approach in anti-spam measures you > refer to? > > > Also, as I mine is an announce only list - it would be nice to be able > > to zap the other received from headers and show the message as > > coming directly from the server. One webmail program does it - but > > it cannot send HTML. > > > > Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] > > helo=mail.python.org) > > by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) > > id 1BH7Kx-0001vz-7S; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:31:51 > > -0400 > > Received: from mydomain.com ([111.111.11.111]) > > by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id > > 1BH7Ko-0001tP-Ph > > for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 > > 16:31:42 -0400 > > > > > > BTW - usim exim as MTA. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Lloyd F. Tennison > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > No trees were harmed in the transmission of this > > message. > > However, a rather large number of electrons were > > temporarily > > inconvenienced. > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Getting caught by SPAM Filters because of Mailman handoff
Companies are now starting to block Mailman lists (among others) because of the way the headers are sent out stating the hand-off to the server: Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.python.org) by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1BH7Kx-0001vz-7S; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:31:51 -0400 Anything with that format - they are marking as "probable SPAM" Any thoughts on how to zap? Also, as I mine is an announce only list - it would be nice to be able to zap the other received from headers and show the message as coming directly from the server. One webmail program does it - but it cannot send HTML. Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.python.org) by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1BH7Kx-0001vz-7S; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:31:51 -0400 Received: from mydomain.com ([111.111.11.111]) by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1BH7Ko-0001tP-Ph for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:31:42 -0400 BTW - usim exim as MTA. Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Cpanel is trying to work on a couple of Mailman Issues - but We Need Help
We have the senior programmer at Cpanel trying to solve a couple of issues, * that no uncaught bounces exist with lists with over 20,000 (obviously wrong) with personalization on. * That Challenge/Verfiies disappear with personalization on, etc. The problem is, they say that do not have access to a Mailman install without Cpanel. If someone is willing to help us out with a non-Cpanel install on Mailman - so they can see how it is supposed to work, please let me know so that I can converse with them. (Also, if there are any other glaring issues - maybe they can look at them at the same time - but no promises.) Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is mailman suitable ?
From: Thomas Carrié <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 16:21:07 +0200 Subject:[Mailman-Users] Is mailman suitable ? Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi, > > I have a special need for "group of emails" management, I need mailman users > help to tell me if mailman matches my needs > > 1) Group definition > > A group is composed of members, if an email is sent to a group, all people > from the group receive it > Yes, no problem. > 2) Subscription policy > > I want an administrator to be the only central person to be able to > register/unregister someone in a group > I have no need for subscription initiated by the user > Yes, no problem - option for it. > 3) Group composition > > As an administrator I would like to be able to register a user in a group, but > I'd like also to put a group in another group > I believe that can be down using the umbrella function. Seach the archives for more info on that. > 4) Accessibility policy > > Let's say I have created groups A,B and C > As an admin I would like to be able to set the 3 following policies > > group A policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group A > group B policy : only members of the group A are able to write to group B > group C policy : anyone on the internet can write to group C > I think the only way is to have separate lists. Someone else correct me if I am wrong. > Thanks for your help > > -- > > Thomas Carrié > Identité GPG : 0285ED14 > > http://www.adullact.org/IMG/pdf/doc-157.pdf > http://www.lebars.org/sec/tcpa-faq.fr.html > http://www.pimientolinux.com/peru2ms/villanueva_to_ms.html > http://petition.eurolinux.org/pr/fr/pr17.html > http://aful.org/publi/articles/gilmore-copy-protection.html > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] How to remove X-Confirm-Reading requests from mail headers distributed by Mailman
I know this might be simplistic, and I cannot get it to work, but the Defaults.py say
the following:
# These variables controls how headers must be cleansed in order to be
# accepted by your NNTP server. Some servers like INN reject messages
# containing prohibited headers, or duplicate headers. The NNTP server may
# reject the message for other reasons, but there's little that can be
# programmatically done about that. See Mailman/Queue/NewsRunner.py
#
# First, these headers (case ignored) are removed from the original message.
NNTP_REMOVE_HEADERS = ['nntp-posting-host', 'nntp-posting-date', 'x-
trace',
'x-complaints-to', 'xref', 'date-received', 'posted',
'posting-version', 'relay-version', 'received']
# Next, these headers are left alone, unless there are duplicates in the
# original message. Any second and subsequent headers are rewritten to the
# second named header (case preserved).
NNTP_REWRITE_DUPLICATE_HEADERS = [
('to', 'X-Original-To'),
('cc', 'X-Original-Cc'),
('content-transfer-encoding', 'X-Original-Content-Transfer-Encoding'),
('mime-version', 'X-MIME-Version'),
]
I was trying to use it to remove X-Mailer and X-Url codes, but as I read it this
should
also remove the original received header - which would be great for announce only
lists. Since my IP is in the header my attacks on my personal machine get out of
hand by pop-up spammers.
Thanks.
Lloyd F. Tennison
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Re: [Mailman-Users] newbie: no auto subscription + control on number
On the first, set the Subscribe options to require approval. On the second question, some MTA's or the combination Cpanel with Mailman may do it. I can limit messages sent per hour per domain - but not necessarily for Mailman. Date sent: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 21:37:17 +0530 (IST) From: "Yogesh Subhash Talekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:[Mailman-Users] newbie: no auto subscription + control on number Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > hi > > I have not yet used Mailman, but is it possible to have following two > features: > > 1. I do not want user to subsribe automatically. I want to add them to the > lists on my own. (i.e. administrator's interface) > > 2. Since I have large number of users in each list, I do not want them to > flood my postfix server. So is it possible to control the flow of number > of messages from mailman to postfix server. (say I want only 100 mails per > minute?) I do not want the broadcat on mailing list to reach all the users > instantaneously ... somewhat delayed and distributed delivery is required. > > Please advice, thanks in advance. > > > --yogesh > > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] How Can A User Be "Hidden" from a List Adminstrator
No, was not the case. Seems will emal back the list with private - but will not show private. From: David Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [Mailman-Users] How Can A User Be "Hidden" from a List Adminstrator Date sent: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 02:10:19 -0500 Copies to: > On Tuesday 30 March 2004 3:24 am, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: > > Since the only way to get a copy of a Mailman list is to use the view > > subscribers (unless you have root access) I usually view and cut > > and paste. Now I have a comment that one is "hidden". Seems like > > nothing should be hidden from the list administrator. Is there an > > easy way to change - or do I have to scan the list and change > > manually? > > Could it be that this person is in the list of allowed senders, and not a list > member? > > -- > And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad- The dreams in > DK KD which I'm dying are the best I've ever had. I find it hard to > DKK D tell you 'cos I find it hard to take. When people run in > DK KD circles it's a very, very Mad World > - Tears For Fears > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Global ban list for all lists?
Just a thought - how about your MTA or Spam filter? The same way you would setup an alias in you MTA - send anything from that address to never-neverland. From: "texas critter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 18:57:53 -0600 Copies to: Subject:[Mailman-Users] Global ban list for all lists? Send reply to: texas critter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Is there any way to globally ban a specific email address from joining any > list on the server? This is not about banning general spam so I don't want > to block all mail from these addresses, I just want to prohibit them from > ever joining any list on my server. > > I'm running Mailman 2.1.3 (cPanel/Linux) and I have root access. I looked > thru the list archives and the Mailman FAQ, searching on "ban" mainly and > didn't see anything helpful. > > texas critter > > -- > EL-M FAQ: http://www.emaillist-managers.com/ > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] How to remove X-Confirm-Reading requests from mail headers distributed by Mailman?
What makes you think it is Mailman? It does not exist on any of my lists, nor does it exist on the lists I receive from others - including this list. (View this source.) Check you MTA. Maybe that is what is doing it. If Mailman is doing it it is somewhere not mentioned in the documentation and does not do it in all setups. From: "Andrzej Kasperowicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:41:34 +0200 Priority: normal Copies to: Subject:[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] How to remove X-Confirm-Reading requests from mail headers distributed by Mailman? > > At 6:53 PM -0600 2004/03/21, Andrzej Kasperowicz wrote: > > > > > Is there any way to setup mailman to stop distributing X-Confirm-Reading- > > > To requests sent by some list users? > > > > Depending on your MTA, you could configure it to remove various > > types of headers on incoming messages. However, I'm not aware of any > > way to do this within Mailman. > > Well, that's too bad. I've already given an example that in another > mailing list program it is possible to do it: > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2004-March/016713.html > > > ak > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocking messages with the same message-id.
Did not see this answered yet, so: Yes. General Options, Default options for new members joining this list Filter out duplicate messages to list members (if possible) Check that. You may have to remove all and add all back in, however, after checking that. Do not think there is a way to change after the fact. Date sent: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 06:42:32 -0600 (EST) From: Andrzej Kasperowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: Subject:[Mailman-Users] Blocking messages with the same message-id. > Is there any setting in Mailman to block sending of a post with the same > message-ID for the second time? > > ak > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] How Can A User Be "Hidden" from a List Adminstrator
Since the only way to get a copy of a Mailman list is to use the view subscribers (unless you have root access) I usually view and cut and paste. Now I have a comment that one is "hidden". Seems like nothing should be hidden from the list administrator. Is there an easy way to change - or do I have to scan the list and change manually? Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: - [Mailman-Users] Custom signup page?
Yes, you can modify. Just pull the code that is just for subscribe off that page. If you need a sample - let me know and I will send you a sample page I use. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: quasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 01:47:06 +0100 Subject: [Mailman-Users] Custom signup page? > I would like to integrate the signup form on my existing website, just > with the "your email adress:" entry and the subscribe button under it. > > The default signup page is good for advanced users so I still wanna > keep it, but most of the people who visit my site are pretty clueless > about anything internet related, a whole page with text is just > confusing to them. > > > So is it ok to integrate the email field and the subscribe button on > your existing homepage, and if so what code do you need for it? > > Thanks! > > quasi. > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Question for you
The line [EMAIL PROTECTED], does not seem to work for me, while the line sent to request does. Since Mailman creates all the aliases itself - (installs them in CPanel) there must be an alias it did not create. Any ideas? The aliases created were: [EMAIL PROTECTED] which forwarded to listname- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The listname-admin does not exist. Does that automatically forward to the address in the owner box under general options? Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Question for you From: Jamie Penman-Smithson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Healing-Oils.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: New-World Publishing Date sent: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:41:45 + Copies to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 23:31, Healing-Oils.com wrote: > > I want to know if it's possible to subscribe someone without logging > > into the Mailman web interface. I have a form on my site that asks > > users if they want to join. If so, I would like to make a php script > > that will automatically send MailMan an email that will subscribe the > > user. > > As long as you've got your aliases are setup properly in your MTA, you > should be able to send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's > the same with -unsubscribe. You can also send an email to > yourlist-request with subscribe/unsubscribe in the subject. > > -- > -jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | spamtrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > w: http://silverdream.org | p: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > pgp key @ http://silverdream.org/~jps/pub.key > 15:30:01 up 1:32, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.05, 0.03 > Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Variables
All the information that I see posted is on how to insert variables into a footer. When I try those same variables in the body of a message only the variable name shows. When reply to a post I see that there is a line with a variable in it that does not seem to be a footer. i.e. http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman- users/lloyd_tennison%40whoe ver.com How do I get that to work in an actual email - one that includes HTML? Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] don't want list to be moderated
There are two places to make sure the list is set to unmoderated.: First make sure all memebers are set to unmoderated - Go to Membership Management and under the lists - at Additional Member Tasks there is a setting called "Set everyone's moderation bit, including those members not currently visible" set that to off. Then go to Privacy Options, Sender Filters,Option line 1, "By default, should new list member postings be moderated?" and set to no. As for Documentation - go to the main Mailman site - http://www.list.org and see the selections under documentation. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:19:40 -0500 From: "jessica kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Lycos Mail (http://www.mail.lycos.com:80) Subject: [Mailman-Users] don't want list to be moderated Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi, > > I'm using MM 2.1.3 via a webhosting site, therefore, I don't have access to all the files with the settings for the mailing lists I've created, nor can I run scripts, etc. > > The problem is very strange. I have to two mailings list, both of which have the exact same settings (but different members, of course). But for one of them I keep getting admin messages asking me to approve messages sent by the members. I don't have either of the lists to be moderated, b'c I actually couldn't find where I could set that. > > I can't find the manual for MM 2.1.3 anywhere and the one I'm using is the one for version 2.0, but it differs from 2.1.3. > For example, the 'General Posting Filters' under 'Privacy Options' listed in the guide, does not appear at all in my interface. > > I asked the webhost administrator, and he said that he ran some fix, but that if that didn't work, I would have to rebuild the mailing list. As the list has already been used, I would lose the archives. > > Please help! > JK > > > > > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=""> > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Forwards Created by Mailman in Cpanel
What/why are there forwards created from owner - listname @ domain to admin - listname @ domain? I have both tried with and without creating those email accounts and still receive net to no mail to the admin account as specified in the general setups option. Cannot find bounce (or any other except the one or two the system sends as bounce questions) messages. Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Forwards Created by Mailman in Cpanel
What/why are there forwards created from owner - listname @ domain to admin - listname @ domain? I have both tried with and without creating those email accounts and still receive net to no mail to the admin account as specified in the general setups option. Cannot find bounce (or any other except the one or two the system sends as bounce questions) messages. Thanks. Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Cannot Find/Receive Bounce Messages
I am trying to review the bounce messages - as with the new SPAM blockers if you are not on the person's "approved" list you email may not go through. I cannot seem to get the bounce message that Mailman cannot process - with or without Mailman bounce processing on. I have tried setting to send the messages to the list owner, and have set the posting by non-members to be held and forwarded. I get one or two messages sent to the list admin, but when I turn off processing and purposely send to a non-existent address - I receive nothing back in either the master account for the domain, the list admin account or the posters account. I do have mailman set to use an explicit reply to address and that address does not receive the daemon messages either. What am I doing wrong? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
