Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring Mailman after a crash?
Mark Sapiro wrote: If you have the entire mailman tree, that's it. Just restore it and start Mailman. big snip Thanks for the pointers! We're back on line and my users have stopped whinging. Best wishes, Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Restoring Mailman after a crash?
Until last week, I was pretty lucky with Mailman. I installed it, and it did its thing. Beautifully. Last week my FreeBSD system had a disk crash. The drive only makes sickening clicking sounds and SpinRite can't touch it. Luckily, I'd been doing weekly backups, so I didn't lose more than a day or two of messages. I backed up by running tar on the entire mailman directory structure. And it's all there! But, now comes the fun part, how do I recreate the mailing lists, the archives, and so on? Is there a FAQ entry? If so, I haven't seen it. Thanks, Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Can I send to mailing list but not ported newsgroup?
Due to demand, I'm porting a few usenet newsgroups to mailing lists, and that is working pretty well. However, every now and then I'd like to send administrivia to just the mailing list subscribers. Is there an easy way to do that? Or even a not-so-easy way? Thanks, Mike -- ...The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] error: unknow user
Jonis Maurin Ceara wrote: Hi list. I'm trying to configure mailman but i'm getting this 'little' error: Aug 8 10:34:36 toyota postfix/virtual[12523]: 14605E7B08: to=|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED],orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=virtual, delay=9, status=bounced (unknown user:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 'aliases' file, i have these lines: # STANZA START: teste # CREATED: Tue Aug 8 10:34:53 2006 teste: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post teste teste-admin: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin teste teste-bounces: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces teste teste-confirm: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm teste teste-join:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join teste teste-leave: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave teste teste-owner: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner teste teste-request: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request teste teste-subscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe teste teste-unsubscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe teste what i'm doing wrong? Everything else is working fine. Did you run newaliases? Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are lost...I have followed FAQs 3.14
Mark Sapiro wrote: It looks like msg_footer (on the list's Non-digest options page), and possibly also digest_footer (on the list's Digest options page), has a non-ascii character in it. Ahhh... yeah. The question is, what next? I run into this fairly often (a few times a month) when trying to delete spam that's awaiting my approval. Looking at the archives to the mailing list, I've seen that different people have had this problem since 2003 in one form or another. I've discovered if I clean out any list's list of pending mail, I can copy the appropriate files to the other lists and delete the offending pending files. However, this really isn't a good answer to the question. Sure, non-ascii characters aren't legal in email addresses, subject lines, and so on. However, the spammers don't seem to mind... personally, I'd be just as happy of Mailman dropped those messages into the bit bucket without even telling me about it, though that may not really be a good answer. Still, it seems Mailman should be able to handle the illegal data a bit more elegantly what's the old system designer mantra, Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle? Mike -- ...The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvaldis claims to be trying to take over the world... Mike Avery mavery at mail dot otherwhen dot com home baker ICQ 16241692 networking guru AIM mavery81230 wordsmith Yahoo mavery81230 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] List performance and server size
Dave Beckstrom wrote: I have a client who needs to send out about 50,000 emails once a month via a one-way list. The unmentioned things here are, how fast to the emails have to leave the server and reach the users and how large are the emails? If the emails are relatively small, even a DSL line could get the emails out in a reasonable time frame. If they are large, and you have to get them out quickly, you could have some bandwidth issues. While 50,000 emails sounds like a lot, the fact you're only sending one email a month means you are probably wasting money throwing a mega server at it. I'm considering installing Mailman on a Dell server with a 2.8 ghz Xeon processor, 1 GB ram and one 160 GB SATA IDE Hard drive. The OS would be FreeBSD. At this time, I'm using a 733 pentium III with a 40gig ATA drive and 384 megs of ram. Its running FreeBSD 4.8, and it is running IPFW, NATD, DHCPD, NTPD, Squid, Apache, Postfix, and Mailman. It's hosting about 12 web sites (some of which are pretty active) and 15 mailing lists ranging from small to large (about 1,000), with activity all over the place. Most of the lists are interactive, not announcement lists. No performance issues. 15 mb of ram is still free, and only 147K of swap space has ever been used. We're using a slow 256kbps DSL line. The big hit is when on the first of the month all our subscribers get their Mailman reminders. The queue is clear before I get into the office at 8:00 AM. Mailman and Postfix installed pretty cleanly from the ports collection. I think in your shoes, I'd do a test run on a more modest server and see what the performance is like, and then look at where the actual bottlenecks are. FreeBSD is pretty friendly about being moved from one machine to another... just put your hard drive into a faster machine, make sure they have the same NIC and you can probably be running without having to change anything. I honestly suspect that your real performance hit will be list aging. From what I've read and seen, most lists, if they aren't maintained, have about 10% of their addresses go stale every month. That means you'll get about 5,000 bounces the first month. And handling bounces is a waste of bandwidth and system resources. I'd make sure you turn on VERP and prune aggressively. With only one mail going out a month, you have to use fairly aggressive pruning settings or the bad addresses will never age out. Look at the FAQs to see how to make Mailman work with your MTA and VERP. It took me about 1/2 a day with Postfix. (Because the system works so well, I don't have to tweak it often, so, despite using FreeBSD for years and years and the Mailman/Postfix combination for years, I'm still a perpetual newbie in FreeBSD, Mailman, and Postfix.) Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Administrative requests oddity
When spammers send junk to my lists, its caught by Mailman and it winds
up in the administrative requests.
However, some of them put characters in the subject thats out of the
usual ascii range. Something like, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And then when I try to deal with the message, Mailman gives me error
messages. It said,
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.6
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited,
but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs.
Looking at the mailman error log, I found,
Jul 11 17:06:23 2005 admin(82489):
admin(82489): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.6 -]
admin(82489): [- Traceback --]
admin(82489): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(82489): File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in
run_main
admin(82489): main()
admin(82489): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line
163, in m
ain
admin(82489): process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata)
admin(82489): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line
713, in p
rocess_form
admin(82489): forward, forwardaddr)
admin(82489): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line
167, in Han
dleRequest
admin(82489): forward, addr)
admin(82489): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line
353, in __h
andlepost
admin(82489): syslog('vette', note)
admin(82489): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Syslog.py,
line 40, in
write
admin(82489): self.write_ex(kind, msg, args, kws)
admin(82489): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Syslog.py,
line 58, in
write_ex
admin(82489): logf.write(msg + '\n')
admin(82489): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line
73, in write
admin(82489): Logger.write(self, %s %s % (prefix, msg))
admin(82489): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py,
line 91, in
write
admin(82489): f.write(msg)
admin(82489): UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in
range(128)
admin(82489): [- Python Information -]
admin(82489): sys.version = 2.2.2 (#1, Mar 22 2003, 15:26:17)
[GCC 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD]]
admin(82489): sys.executable = /usr/local/bin/python
admin(82489): sys.prefix = /usr/local
admin(82489): sys.exec_prefix = /usr/local
admin(82489): sys.path= /usr/local
admin(82489): sys.platform= freebsd4
admin(82489): [- Environment Variables -]
admin(82489): PATH_INFO: /rec.food.sourdough
admin(82489): HTTP_ACCEPT:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text
/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
admin(82489): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
admin(82489): HTTP_REFERER:
http://www.otherwhen.com/mailman/admindb/rec.food.
sourdough
admin(82489): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.3.11
admin(82489): PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman
admin(82489): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admindb
admin(82489): SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
admin(82489): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admindb
admin(82489): SERVER_SIGNATURE: ADDRESSApache/1.3.33 Server at
www.otherwhen
.com Port 80/ADDRESS
admin(82489):
admin(82489): REQUEST_METHOD: POST
admin(82489): HTTP_HOST: www.otherwhen.com
admin(82489): HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE: 300
admin(82489): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1
admin(82489): QUERY_STRING:
admin(82489): PATH_TRANSLATED: /usr/local/www/data/rec.food.sourdough
admin(82489): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admindb/rec.food.sourdough
admin(82489): CONTENT_LENGTH: 191
admin(82489): HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
admin(82489): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT
5.0; en-US;
rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4
admin(82489): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive
admin(82489): HTTP_COOKIE:
rec.food.sourdough+admin=2802006978f8d242732800
3865373336373439653535346264353335386636393538313266616536636262376531363062
3237;
rec.food.baking+admin=2802006982f9d2427328006563393331313332303039
386532353239643233616636383361616334323038303634353937
admin(82489): SERVER_NAME: www.otherwhen.com
admin(82489): REMOTE_ADDR: 192.168.2.10
admin(82489): REMOTE_PORT: 2378
admin(82489): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us,en;q=0.5
admin(82489): UNIQUE_ID: QtL7bsCoAgMAAUIcZas
admin(82489): SERVER_PORT: 80
admin(82489): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
admin(82489): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate
admin(82489): SERVER_ADDR: 192.168.2.3
admin(82489): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /usr/local/www/data
The key seems to be the line, admin(82489): UnicodeError: ASCII
encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)
At this point, my work-around is to clear the administrative requests
from another list and copy the request.pck and pending.pck files from
the list thats OK to the
[Mailman-Users] Member list oddity
On some lists when I check the member page, the membership is shown on a single page. On other lists, the membership is broken out alphabetically. However, this doesn't seem to be related to list size. One list with over 100 members is shown on a single page while another list with about 50 members is broken out alphabetically. Is there some option I just haven't noticed that controlls this? Could it be based on which version of Mailman was used to create the list? I'd love to be able to toggle this behavior, but just haven't figured out how yet. Thanks, Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] How do the spammers do it?
Someone else said they are pulling their hair out. Me too! This has happened several times - I create a new list for a local group. I add the users to it myself. I make the list public in the Mailman/listinfo web page. And within 2 weeks, the list starts getting spammed. How do they get the list name? Is there any way to hide it better? I've been lucky that none of the spam has actually made it to my lists, but it's annoying to have to wade through the blocked messages to separate the wheat from the chaff. Thanks, Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.5 breaks when I upgrade from postfix 1 to 2
I've been trying to upgrade my FreeBSD 4.8 system from Postfix 1.1.12 to 2.2. Every time I install it, it works fine. However Mailman stops dead. When I uninstall 2.2 and revert to 1.1.12, Mailman is happy again. Looking at the current versions, I suppose I should try for Postfix 2.3 now instead of 2.2 but I doubt the issues would change somehow. Can anyone point me in the right direction to figure out what's going on? Thanks, Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman webmin plugin?
I recently started looking at Webmin, and it's pretty nice. So, I started looking for a Mailman module for Webmin. Sadly, the only one I found on SouceForge is kinda old. Has anyone used it? Does it work? Is there a working module out there somewhere? Thanks, Mike -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Bug report
Hi,
One of my moderators was trying to delete a spam submitted by a
non-subscriber. And he got the following error. I've attached the
email message that triggered the error. And I deleted the message from
homemailman/data
It seems that the message subject has some non-ascii characters in it,
and that's giving mailman fits.
Thanks,
Mike
Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5
We're sorry, we hit a bug!
If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy
of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks!
Traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
main()
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 163, in main
process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 788, in process_form
preserve, forward, forwardaddr)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 161, in HandleRequest
forward, addr)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 347, in __handlepost
syslog('vette', note)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Syslog.py, line 40, in write
self.write_ex(kind, msg, args, kws)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Syslog.py, line 58, in write_ex
logf.write(msg + '\n')
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py, line 73, in write
Logger.write(self, %s %s % (prefix, msg))
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py, line 91, in write
f.write(msg)
UnicodeError: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128)
Python information:
Variable Value
sys.version 2.2.2 (#1, Mar 22 2003, 15:26:17) [GCC 2.95.4 20020320
[FreeBSD]]
sys.executable /usr/local/bin/python
sys.prefix /usr/local
sys.exec_prefix /usr/local
sys.path /usr/local
sys.platform freebsd4
Environment variables:
Variable Value
PATH_INFO /groaners
HTTP_ACCEPT
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
CONTENT_TYPE application/x-www-form-urlencoded
HTTP_REFERER
http://www.otherwhen.com/mailman/admindb/groaners?sender=pqqeruf%40statemier.com
SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.33 (Unix)
PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman
SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admindb
SERVER_ADMIN[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/admindb
SERVER_SIGNATURE
Apache/1.3.33 Server at www.otherwhen.com Port 80
REQUEST_METHOD POST
HTTP_HOST www.otherwhen.com
HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE 300
SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1
QUERY_STRING
PATH_TRANSLATED /usr/local/www/data/groaners
REQUEST_URI /mailman/admindb/groaners
CONTENT_LENGTH 3056
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US;
rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050317 Firefox/1.0.2
HTTP_CONNECTION keep-alive
HTTP_COOKIE
groaners+admin=280200693754594273280065393263646562346631346331623939346161373839636363303861386134343832383061633137
SERVER_NAME www.otherwhen.com
REMOTE_ADDR 192.168.2.66
REMOTE_PORT 2549
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGEen-us,en;q=0.5
UNIQUE_ID QllVEcCoAgMAAQNfE5w
SERVER_PORT 80
GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODINGgzip,deflate
SERVER_ADDR 192.168.2.3
DOCUMENT_ROOT /usr/local/www/data
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[Mailman-Users] Archive problem...
I'm using Mailman 2.0.8 and have been having some problems with my archives. I hope someone can give me a suggestion as to how to clear up the mess. Some of the mailing lists are fine, but in a few mailing lists, only the last two months are available from the web menu. Looking in the /usr/local/mailbox/archive/public/newsgroup directory and at the /usr/local/mailbox/archive/public/newsgroup.mbox/newsgroup.mbox makes me think all the data is there. A look at the /usr/local/mailbox/logs/error files shows lots of corrupt file errors. I've copied the traceback for the most recent run on one of the mailing lists. Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): Traceback (most recent call last): Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 221, in ArchiveMail Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): h.processUnixMailbox(f, HyperArch.Article) Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 528, in processUnixMailbox Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): self.add_article(a) Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py, line 928, in add_article Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): self.__super_add_article(article) Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 567, in add_article Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): article.parentID = parentID = self.get_parent_info(arch, article) Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 587, in get_parent_info Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): refs = self._remove_external_references(article.references) Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py, line 619, in _remove_external_references Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): if self.database.hasArticle(self.archive, ref): Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py, line 267, in hasArticle Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): self.__openIndices(archive) Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py, line 245, in __openIndices Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): t = DumbBTree(os.path.join(arcdir, archive + '-' + i)) Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py, line 68 , in __init__ Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): self.load() Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py, line 17 3, in load Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): self.dict = marshal.load(fp) Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 qrunner(1720): ValueError: bad marshal data Jul 11 11:46:00 2002 (1720) CORRUPT ARCHIVE FOR LIST: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16241692AOL IM: MAvery81230 Phone: 970-642-0282 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] The moderation/SPAM queue
On 10 May 2002 at 17:48, AerosmithFanClub.com List Adm wrote: A correctly configured list will get ZERO spam. Not quite. A correctly configured list will see zero spam. However, any list that has any real presence will be subjected to any number of attacks. Once the email address is known, spammers will try to send to it. Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16241692AOL IM: MAvery81230 Phone: 970-642-0282 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: Company coming? House a mess? Display old Get Well cards. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] Duplicate messages with gate_news in 2.0.8
I've been using gate_news to port a number of news groups to mailing lists. It's worked well for several months, up until a week or so ago. I am using FreeBSD 4.3, Mailman 2.0.8, and Postfix (sorry, I forgot which version). Now, I'm re-getting older messages. Today, the 21st, I'm getting messages as far back as the 15th and 16th. I am getting the current messages also. What's stranger still is that a look in the archives I am keeping doesn't reveal the duplicate messages. A look at the news server doesn't reveal any duplicate messages either. I'm kind of stumped as to where to start looking for the problem. When I review the mailq, all the messages look current, and I suppose that's correct in that they were fetched from the news server today. Once they are email messages again, they are outdated. Any hints greatly appreciated, thanks, Mike -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Forwarding loop?
On 31 Oct 2001 at 16:54, Mike Avery wrote: I've been getting the following error message every time I send a message to a list. A number of other users have commented that they are getting the same message when they send a message to the list. The message subject is Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender. Well, that got resolved. Someone had misconfigured their copy of Lookout! and was sending every message they received back to the list as a return receipt. Lookout! hadn't changed the headers, so it looked like the original sender was re-posting the message. Postfix stopped the duplicate message and sent the confusing error message. Looking at the Postfix log, and a raw view of the error message showed me which SMTP server the message was coming through. I used the find_member command and lucked out - only one (former) subscriber from that domain. Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: What do you mean you 'formatted' the cat? -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Forwarding loop?
I've been getting the following error message every time I send a message to a list. A number of other users have commented that they are getting the same message when they send a message to the list. The message subject is Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender. -- error message -- This is the Postfix program at host mail.otherwhen.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mail forwarding loop for [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- end of error message -- I looked, and the list is not subscribed to itself. And the messages in question are delivered to the list. System description - AMD K6-3, 450mhz, 128 megs of ram, FreeBSD 4.3, Postfix 2.??, and Mailman 2.06. I'm pretty sure this isn't a Postfix issue, and I am confused. Does anyone have any ideas what might be causing this? Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery[EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Product Warning HANDLE WITH EXTREME CARE: This product contains minute electrically charged particles moving at velocities in excess of five hundred million miles per hour. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Just drop it?
One of my moderators asked me for help. She runs a moderated list, and only wants her messages to go to the list. We've done that. What is bothering her now is she gets a note every time a spammer tries to hit this list. She doesn't want to know about it, and she doesn't want to have to manually discard every one of the spam attempts. She wants Mailman to just drop the message into a black hole, without telling anyone it happened. I don't see a way to do that am I overlooking something? Thanks, Mike-- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: It's always someone else's problem anyway -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Digest time...
I have some (troublesome) subscribers. Some, in one list, want the digest in their in-tray's first thing in the morning. Others, in another list, want the digests to be sent around noon. I can see how to change the global time that digests are sent, that's a quick and easy change to the crontab. What I don't see is how to have different times for different lists. Does anyone have any suggestions for my troublesome lusers? Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: If you're offended now, try playing my message backwards. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a limit
On 15 Oct 2001 at 17:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a limit how many names can be on a list. Does it slow down if a list gets too big. This only happens trying to get to the admin page. I can still get to the subscribe info. It opens at /info not on /admin. I am experiencing a problem with only one of my lists. It happens to be the largest list. All of the other lists open fine and work correctly. I don't have the 200,000 user lists that Jon mentioned, my largest list is a bit over 3,000. However, I did have some problems at first. One issue is that my previous list server didn't do anything with bounces - and neither did my moderators - so bad addresses were accumulating in the lists. As Mailman deals with the bad addresses, less and less time is wasted on them, and the whole mess speeds up. I had been using SendMail... converting to Postfix also helped. And cleaning up some local DNS problems also helped. From what I've seen and read here, and my own experiences, cleaning up the environment and the list makes life a lot easier for Mailman. Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] is there any way to have Mailman NOT to send out monthly membership reminder?
On 9 Oct 2001 at 19:49, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Balazs Lengyak wrote: Is there? Of course. RTFM. Given that the poster's email address is based in Hungary, it might be reasonable to assume that the poster is not a native English speaker. This might be seen as a reason to show the poster some mercy and politely answer the question. It could be argued that it would always be best to show a poster mercy and answer the question. We're all newbies at something. And we're all going to need help with things that experienced people will have trouble believing we don't understand. So, for the kindness you will hope to receive, you should show kindness to others. And with that, I'd like to thank Jon and several other people here for their gracious help as I have been getting used to Mailman. It's a marvelous program, and the more I use it, the more stunned I am! Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: Move your vowels every day or you'll get consonated. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem is #%$ me off
On 11 Oct 2001 at 0:38, Jon Carnes wrote: BTW: I have subscribed up to 600 folks in single go (using the Admin interface) with no problems. Next time, you might find it easier to use the command line: sync_members (but its all good!) I hadn't thought about the sync_members, so I just re-created all my lists when I started using Mailman with the web interface. My largest list was a little over 3,000 users. The web interface worked very well. I was amazed that cut and paste on the Windoze machine could handle that large a block, and that InternetExploiter didn't choke. Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: Is that my phone bill or the national debt? -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Changing a list name
I'd like to change the name of a Mailman hosted mailing list. The only way I see to do that is to delete it and start over, but I really don't want to do that. Is there a clean way to rename a mailing list? Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: Procrastinators don't die, they keep putn' it off! -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman - unwanted subscriptions.
On 9 Oct 2001 at 20:52, Timothy Brier wrote: Is there a way to ban a certain e-mail from subscribing to a list? Yeah, but it's a waste of time and effort for determined troublemakers. It takes about a minute to get a new email account on any of a bazillion free email servers. So, I block [EMAIL PROTECTED], and your next move is to become [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you're back in. Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: Madness takes it's toll. Please have exact change. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Dropping Sendmail
OK... the sendmail problems that have been discussed here at some length have driven me to the point of converting to postfix. So, I was wondering... what do I need to do to Mailman to tell it to use postfix instead of sendmail? Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: DOS 6.0 - A $49 confirmation that you need REAL utilities. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Hosed mail, clueless lusers, is this STILL Monday?
This weekend my ISP changed my setup so instead of routing my subnet directly to the internet, I'm using NAT through a single address. My system changes worked really well. However, he fat-fingered his DNS entries. *sigh* So, when I moved lists from another list server to Mailman and entered the password, the list creation announcement went to never-never land. Of course, knowing that the moderators would get the passwords, I didn't bother remembering them, writing them down, or anything sensible like that. Is there a way to recover the mailing list passwords? I don't see it I'd rather recover the passwords than have to change 'em all. Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: A short saying contains much wisdom. - Sophocles. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] News group transfers...
I'm playing with using mailman to move some of my favorite news groups into mailing lists, and have run into a snag. What I'd like to do is have everything from the newsgroup make it to the mailing list, but only let subscribers to the mailing list send mail to the mailing list and then on to the news group. Can I do this? At present, I've opened the mailing list so anyone can post to it, and I REALLY don't like doing that... Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: Brevity is the soul of lingerie. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Importing archives
I'm in the process of migrating from another list server, Mercury by David Harris. One of the important things in the old mailing list is the archives. So, I'd like to convert them or migrate them. The existing archives are flat text files, not even mime. There are delimiters at the end of each message that seem to be pretty unambiguous. Has anyone imported archives from another list server into Mailman? If so, do you have any advice or guidance? Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: Schizophrenia beats eating alone -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
