Re: [Mailman-Users] clear space

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

> On 08/02/2017 08:55 AM, Dan Young wrote:
> >
> > Anyone have a script, code or link that shows how to delete archives &
> > maybe bounce-events
> > or anything else I can clean without effecting lists. Need to free up
> > some space.
> 
> 
> If you have files in Mailman's data/ directory named
> bounce-events-p.pck the only one, if any, that's useful is one with
> a current time stamp and p = to the pid of the currently running
> BounceRunner. Any others are orphaned and can safely be removed.

What about heldmsg-*.pck files in that directory?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 confusion

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> From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-
> bounces+rosenbaumlm=ornl@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
> 
> At the moment it actually says "The backend requires Python 3.4 or newer
> while the frontend requires Python 2.7"
> 
> What that means is the Mailman core (mailman) and and the Mailman -
> HyperKitty plugin (mailman-hyperkitty) require Python 3 (3.4, 3.5 and
> 3.6 are supported).
> 
> Postorius (postorius), HyperKitty (mailman-hyperkitty) and therefore the
> supporting project modules they import, mailmanclient and
> django-mailman3 all require Python 2.7.

Does that mean _at_least_ 2.7, or does it mean I need two different versions of 
Python on the same box, or does it mean I need two boxes?
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Re: [Mailman-Users] List creation message has bad links

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> From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-
> bounces+rosenbaumlm=ornl@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
> Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 3:42 PM
> To: mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] List creation message has bad links
> 
> On 05/04/2017 11:50 AM, Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:
> > Recently we created a new list. Somehow the links in the list creation
> message (see below) have incorrect links. The visible link label has the
> correct list name, but the HREF has a list name of a different list (which
> is a substring of the correct list name):
> >
> > https://elist.ornl.gov/mailman/admin/ecp-st-math-lib;> style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>
> >  https://elist.ornl.gov/mailman/admin/ecp-st-math-lib-
> teams
> >
> > Is there a bug? I haven't been able to reproduce the problem.
> 
> 
> The list createed message is plain text and contains no html tags. These
> are added by the user's MUA to make something that looks like a URL be
> "clickable".
> 
> Obviously there's a bug, but it is in the user's MUA, not Mailman.

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[Mailman-Users] List creation message has bad links

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

Recently we created a new list. Somehow the links in the list creation message 
(see below) have incorrect links. The visible link label has the correct list 
name, but the HREF has a list name of a different list (which is a substring of 
the correct list name):

https://elist.ornl.gov/mailman/admin/ecp-st-math-lib;>
 https://elist.ornl.gov/mailman/admin/ecp-st-math-lib-teams

Is there a bug? I haven't been able to reproduce the problem.

Mailman version 2.1.20 on RHEL6

Larry M. Rosenbaum
Oak Ridge National Laboratory




Well,  turns out, it wasn't that the admin was changing the password.  They 
were using the link sent out by the Mailman server to go to the list but the 
link is taking them to the wrong list.

See below.  The list is supposed to be "ecp-st-math-lib-teams".   But if 
you hover over the URL, it points to "ecp-st-math-lib".

Looks like a bug


"


The mailing list `ecp-st-math-lib-teams' has just been created for you.  The 
following is some basic information about your mailing list.



Your mailing list password is:



(redacted)



You need this password to configure your mailing list.  You also need it to 
handle administrative requests, such as approving mail if you choose to run a 
moderated list.



You can configure your mailing list at the following web page:




https://elist.ornl.gov/mailman/admin/ecp-st-math-lib-teams



The web page for users of your mailing list is:




https://elist.ornl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ecp-st-math-lib-teams



You can even customize these web pages from the list configuration page.  
However, you do need to know HTML to be able to do this.



There is also an email-based interface for users (not administrators) of your 
list; you can get info about using it by sending a message with just the word 
`help' as subject or in the body, to:




ecp-st-math-lib-teams-requ...@elist.ornl.gov



To unsubscribe a user: from the mailing list 'listinfo' web page, click on or 
enter the user's email address as if you were that user.

Where that user would put in their password to unsubscribe, put in your admin 
password.  You can also use your password to change member's options, including 
digestification, delivery disabling, etc.



Please address all questions to 
mailman-ow...@elist.ornl.gov.


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[Mailman-Users] Logging list password change events?

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Does Mailman log when a list owner or moderator password gets changed?

One of our admins keeps forgetting and asking for support to reset and the list 
owner is curious if they are changing the password.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Temporarily Disable a List

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> From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-
> bounces+rosenbaumlm=ornl@python.org] On Behalf Of Anilkumar Padmaraju
> 
> What is the best way to temporarily disable a list in mailman.  Later if
> needed want to enable back.

You can turn on emergency moderation.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Handling bogus subscribe requests

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>From the "NEWS" file:

- There is a new mm_cfg.py setting SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET which will put
  a dynamically generated, hidden hash in the listinfo subscribe form and
  check it upon submission.  Setting this will prevent automated processes
  (bots) from successfully POSTing web subscribes without first retrieving
  and parsing the form from the listinfo page.  The form must also be
  submitted no later than FORM_LIFETIME nor no earlier than
  SUBSCRIBE_FORM_MIN_TIME after retrieval.  Note that enabling this will
  break any static subscribe forms on your site.  See the description in
  Defaults.py for more info.  (LP: #1082746)

> -Original Message-
> From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-
> bounces+rosenbaumlm=ornl@python.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Daviel
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 4:18 AM
> To: mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Handling bogus subscribe requests
> 
> 
> In the last few days we've seen several thousand bogus subscription
> requests for various lists we host, send through the web interface. They
> seem to mostly originate in China.
> 
> We see log entries such as /var/log/mailman/subscribe
> Jan 11 20:50:30 2016 (27666) grsi-users: pending
> hellocatboots+80339...@gmail.com  221.178.182.31
> and in the webserver logs
> 221.178.182.31 - - [10/Jan/2016:03:27:18 -0800] "POST
> /mailman/subscribe/grsi-users HTTP/1.1" 200
> 
> I'm not sure what the point is - a DoS attack on a few users, perhaps. I
> see that gmail gives you infinite aliases, so that hellocatboots+80339132
> is the same as hellocatboots+96529...@gmail.com
> 
> Since most of these seem to originate with one netblock where we have, I
> believe, no legitimate users, I've added a Deny rule in httpd.conf.
> 
> I was wondering if other admins had seen this, and if there was a better
> way to control it than blocking an ip range.
> 
> Apart from all the variants of hellocatboots, we've seen a lot of posts
> for one unique user at kezukaya.com. The subscribe log shows hundreds of
> pending requests, from which I infer that mailman has no mechanism to
> track the fact that it already sent a "please confirm" message (we have
> mailman-2.1.18 on Centos 5).
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[Mailman-Users] Question about spam directory

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

There are several files in our Mailman spam directory /var/lib/mailman/spam. 
These have filenames like
spam-listname-number.msg
Some of them are zero length; some are not.

Where are these coming from? The spam filters are set to the default values, 
which shouldn't be blocking anything.


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[Mailman-Users] Discard pending subscription requests from command line?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

Is there a way to do any of the following from the command line, perhaps with a 
script?


-  Find which lists have pending subscription requests (preferably 
showing the pending subscriber's email address)

-  Delete the pending subscription requests (preferably a specified 
address)

Thanks,

(Running v2.1.12-18.el6 on RHEL6)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Discard pending subscription requests from command line?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

 On 04/09/2015 10:27 AM, Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:
  Is there a way to do any of the following from the command line, perhaps
 with a script?
 
 
  -  Find which lists have pending subscription requests
 (preferably showing the pending subscriber's email address)
 
  -  Delete the pending subscription requests (preferably a
 specified address)
 
 
 See the script at http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/list_requests.

Thanks!

 Are you by chance getting spammed by subscription requests from a few
 select IP's?  Maybe trying to subscribe the same email-to-text address
 in each flood of attempts?

Yes.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Welcome email text file strips carriage returns

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

 From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-
 bounces+rosenbaumlm=ornl@python.org] On Behalf Of David Law
 
 Just started using Mailman for a notification mailing list and still in
 the setup phase.
 
 Running Mailman 2.1.18-1 under Virtualmin/Webmin (has a module) on
 Centos 6.4.
 Wrote a tutorial how to upgrade when installed using Virtualmin at
 http://stallion-theme.co.uk/how-to-upgrade-mailman-mailing-list-tutorial/
 
 Having a problem with the Welcome email text file.
 
 When I add something like
 
 line 1
 line 2
 line 3
 
 It's being converted to
 
 line 1 line 2 line 3

Is the recipient using Outlook with the Remove extra line breaks in plain text 
messages box checked?




 And this
 
 line 1
 
 line 2
 
 line 3
 
 Converted to
 
 line 1
 line 2
 line 3
 
 Basically stripping out single carriage returns.
 
 Found a way around this for paragraphs (second example) by adding an
 space between paragraphs (space character)
 
 line 1
 space
 line 2
 space
 line 3
 space
 
 But not for example 1.
 
 Have tried things like \n and \r, extra spaces, tabs, but nothing I've
 tried keeps several lines of text in a block.
 
 Is there a character that's counted as a carriage return?
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Stack dump trying to Approve postings

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

One more note: it appears that the error only occurs if Preserve messages for 
the site administrator is checked.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-
 bounces+rosenbaumlm=ornl@python.org] On Behalf Of Rosenbaum, Larry M.
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 1:24 PM
 To: mailman-users@python.org
 Subject: [Mailman-Users] Stack dump trying to Approve postings
 
 We are running mailman-2.1.12-18.el6.x86_64, python 2.6.6, RHEL6.
 Sometimes when a moderator tries to approve postings, he gets this error:
 
 Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12
 We're sorry, we hit a bug!
 
 Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of
 traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but
 the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs.
 
 I have checked the traceback and found the following. What does it mean,
 and how do we fix it?
 
 Dec 03 09:48:57 2013 admin(20706):
 
 admin(20706): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.12 -]
 admin(20706): [- Traceback --]
 admin(20706): Traceback (most recent call last):
 admin(20706):   File /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 112, in
 run_main
 admin(20706): main()
 admin(20706):   File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 165,
 in main
 admin(20706): process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata)
 admin(20706):   File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, line 716,
 in process_form
 admin(20706): forward, forwardaddr)
 admin(20706):   File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 167, in
 HandleRequest
 admin(20706): forward, addr)
 admin(20706):   File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py, line 254, in
 __handlepost
 admin(20706): g(msg, 1)
 admin(20706): AttributeError: Generator instance has no __call__ method
 admin(20706): [- Python Information -]
 admin(20706): sys.version =   2.6.6 (r266:84292, May 27 2013,
 05:35:12)
 [GCC 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-3)]
 admin(20706): sys.executable  =   /usr/bin/python
 admin(20706): sys.prefix  =   /usr
 admin(20706): sys.exec_prefix =   /usr
 admin(20706): sys.path=   /usr
 admin(20706): sys.platform=   linux2
 admin(20706): [- Environment Variables -]
 admin(20706):   HTTP_COOKIE: grayhive+admin=snip
 admin(20706):   SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat)
 admin(20706):   SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admindb
 admin(20706):   SERVER_SIGNATURE: addressApache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server
 at email.ornl.gov Port 443/address
 admin(20706):
 admin(20706):   REQUEST_METHOD: POST
 admin(20706):   PATH_INFO: /grayhive
 admin(20706):   HTTP_ORIGIN: https://email.ornl.gov
 admin(20706):   SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1
 admin(20706):   QUERY_STRING:
 admin(20706):   SSL_TLS_SNI: email.ornl.gov
 admin(20706):   CONTENT_LENGTH: 225
 admin(20706):   HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X
 10_8_5) AppleWebKit/536.30.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.0.5
 Safari/536.30.1
 admin(20706):   HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive
 admin(20706):   HTTP_REFERER:
 https://email.ornl.gov/mailman/admindb/grayhive
 admin(20706):   SERVER_NAME: email.ornl.gov
 admin(20706):   REMOTE_ADDR: 160.91.240.104
 admin(20706):   PATH_TRANSLATED: /var/www/html/grayhive
 admin(20706):   SERVER_PORT: 443
 admin(20706):   SERVER_ADDR: 160.91.4.92
 admin(20706):   DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/html
 admin(20706):   PYTHONPATH: /usr/lib/mailman
 admin(20706):   SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/admindb
 admin(20706):   SERVER_ADMIN: root@localhost
 admin(20706):   HTTP_DNT: 1
 admin(20706):   HTTP_HOST: email.ornl.gov
 admin(20706):   HTTPS: on
 admin(20706):   REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admindb/grayhive
 admin(20706):   HTTP_ACCEPT:
 text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
 admin(20706):   GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1
 admin(20706):   REMOTE_PORT: 52988
 admin(20706):   HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us
 admin(20706):   CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
 admin(20706):   HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate
 
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[Mailman-Users] Info about /var/spool/mailman directories

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

Where can I find some documentation about the usage of the directories under 
/var/spool/mailman, and how to manage the files in those directories? I think 
it might be useful to monitor the number of files and send a report if the 
backlog gets too big, and to be able to remove or hold messages.

Larry M. Rosenbaum
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Online archive contains odd strings like%(indexing_disable)s

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 From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
 
 Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:
 
 For some of our lists, the web interface for the archives are peppered
 with various strings like %(indexing_disable)s and %(htsearch)s.  The
 lists were recently migrated from a Solaris 9 box to a RHEL6 box.
 Rebuilding the archives doesn't fix the problem.  What do we need to do to
 fix it?
 
 We are running Mailman v2.1.12 with htDig integration.
 
 
 If rebuilding the archive doesn't fix it, something is wrong with your
 htDig integration.

Thank you for the help. It turns out that some of the files didn't get patched 
(or somehow got unpatched). I applied the patches and it is working properly 
now.

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[Mailman-Users] Online archive contains odd strings like %(indexing_disable)s

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For some of our lists, the web interface for the archives are peppered with 
various strings like %(indexing_disable)s and %(htsearch)s.  The lists were 
recently migrated from a Solaris 9 box to a RHEL6 box.  Rebuilding the archives 
doesn't fix the problem.  What do we need to do to fix it?

We are running Mailman v2.1.12 with htDig integration.

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[Mailman-Users] Files that contain the hostname?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

Are there any Mailman files that contain the hostname other than list-specific 
files and mm_cfg.py?

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Group mismatch error (mail wrapper script)

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

I'm migrating Mailman to a new server and getting the following error when I 
send mail to a list:

#5.3.0 x-unix; Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script 
to be executed as one of the following groups: [mail, postfix, mailman, nobody, 
daemon], but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group: 
users. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as one of these groups: 
[mail, postfix, mailman, nobody, daemon], or re-run configure providing the 
command line option: '--with-mail-gid=users'.

Where do I need to look for the error?

Running Mailman 2.1.14 on RHEL6 with Postfix.

Larry M. Rosenbaum
Oak Ridge National Laboratory

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Group mismatch error (mail wrapper script)

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 From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
 
 Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:
 
 #5.3.0 x-unix; Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper
 script to be executed as one of the following groups: [mail, postfix,
 mailman, nobody, daemon], but the system's mail server executed the mail
 script as group: users. Try tweaking the mail server to run the script
 as one of these groups: [mail, postfix, mailman, nobody, daemon], or re-
 run configure providing the command line option: '--with-mail-gid=users'.
 
 Where do I need to look for the error?
 
 Running Mailman 2.1.14 on RHEL6 with Postfix.
 
 
 With Postfix, assuming you are using aliases, Postfix invokes the
 delivery pipe as the user (and that user's primary group) who owns the
 aliases.db file in which the alias was found.
 
 If you have the recommended Postfix-Mailman integration, and RHEL file
 locations, this means /etc/mailman/aliases.db should be owned by
 'mailman'

Thanks for the information.  check_perms -f fixed it.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Different Domains on Single Mailman Server

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 From: mailman-users-bounces+rosenbaumlm=ornl@python.org
 [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+rosenbaumlm=ornl@python.org] On Behalf
 Of Mark Sapiro
 
 KC Wise wrote:
 
 Inherited a few mailman servers.  I was wanting to know if I can combine
 them into a single server/instance.
 My issue is that they are not subdomains they are completely different
 domain names for example:
 something.org
 lists . somethingelse . com
 lists . different2 . com
 
 Just wanted to make sure that something like this will work before I
 proceed.
 
 
 It will work with standard GNU Mailman in a single instance if all list
 names are globally unique. If you have need of lists with the same

Could you point me to the documentation on implementing virtual domains where 
the list names are globally unique?  

Thanks, Larry
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[Mailman-Users] How to integrate HTDIG when installing with Yum

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

I am about to install Mailman on a RHEL6 system using Yum.  How do I integrate 
HTDIG with it?

I have previously done HTDig integration on an install from source on Solaris, 
which involved a bunch of patching, I'm relatively new at Linux, but I suspect 
there is a better way to do it.

Thanks,

Larry

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[Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

We are running Mailman v2.1.13 on Solaris 9 Sparc.  We have a list with about 
13,000 members that we currently have emergency moderation turned on because 
of previous problems with reply storms.

Today somebody sent a message to the list, which (of course) was held for 
moderation.  The list owner approved it, but then it disappeared.  Here is what 
was in the vette log:

Oct 04 10:35:12 2010 (21271) X_Cohorts post from michael.x...@.edu 
held, message-id=2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu: 
Post to moderated list
Oct 04 10:38:26 2010 (5774) held message approved, message-id: 
2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu
Oct 04 10:38:28 2010 (21271) Message discarded, msgid: 
2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu

What caused the message to be discarded after it was approved?

Thanks,

Larry M. Rosenbaum
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[Mailman-Users] Suppressing To post a message on listinfo page

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

The listinfo page for every list has a line that says:

To post a message to all the list members, send email to followed by the 
email address.  This may be confusing for announce-only lists where members 
aren't allowed to post.  Is there an option to suppress this text on a per-list 
basis?  If not, I'd like to suggest it as a feature request.

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[Mailman-Users] Turn moderation bits on/off from script?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

The GUI has an option to do this:

Set everyone's moderation bit, including those members not currently visible
   o Off   o On

Is there a way to do this from a script?

Thanks, Larry
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Turn moderation bits on/off from script?

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 From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
 Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:14 AM
 To: Rosenbaum, Larry M.; mailman-users@python.org
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Turn moderation bits on/off from script?
 
 Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:
 
 The GUI has an option to do this:
 
 Set everyone's moderation bit, including those members not currently
 visible
o Off   o On
 
 Is there a way to do this from a script?
 
 
 Anything that can be done in Mailman can be done with a withlist
 script.
 
 See http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/set_mod.py (mirrored at
 http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/set_mod.py) for this one.

Thank you very much!

Larry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] What causes decoding Unicode is not supported?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

 From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
 
 Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:
 
 Thank you for the excellent instructions.  Here is the output:
 
 ornl71# cron/senddigestsx -l dcaplusplus
 List: dcaplusplus: problem processing
 /usr/local/mailman/lists/dcaplusplus/digest.mbox:
 decoding Unicode is not supported
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File cron/senddigestsx, line 89, in main
 mlist.send_digest_now()
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py, line 60, in
 send_digest_now
 ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 142, in
 send_digests
 send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 339, in
 send_i18n_digests
 mcset = msg.get_content_charset('')
   File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/email/message.py, line 759, in
 get_content_charset
 charset = unicode(charset, 'us-ascii').encode('us-ascii')
 TypeError: decoding Unicode is not supported
 
 
 Now I'm a bit confused. That line 759 in
 /usr/local/lib/python2.5/email/message.py doesn't correlate with any
 of the email/message.py modules I have. Instead of the line
 
 charset = unicode(charset, 'us-ascii').encode('us-ascii')
 
 all the email 4.0.x packages I have have
 
 try:
 if isinstance(charset, str):
 charset = unicode(charset, 'us-ascii')
 charset = charset.encode('us-ascii')
 except UnicodeError:
 return failobj
 
 This should work in your case. What do you get if you invoke python,
 import email and display email.__version__? e.g.,
 
 [msap...@msapiro ~]$ python
 Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Dec  2 2008, 09:26:14)
 [GCC 3.4.4 (cygming special, gdc 0.12, using dmd 0.125)] on cygwin
 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
  import email
  email.__version__
 '4.0.2'
 

ornl71# python
Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 20 2006, 06:18:53)
[GCC 3.4.6] on sunos5
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import email
 email.__version__
'4.0.1'
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Re: [Mailman-Users] What causes decoding Unicode is not supported?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

 From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:38 AM
 To: Rosenbaum, Larry M.; mailman-users@python.org
 Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] What causes decoding Unicode is not
 supported?
 
 Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:
 
 ornl71# python
 Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 20 2006, 06:18:53)
 [GCC 3.4.6] on sunos5
 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
  import email
  email.__version__
 '4.0.1'
 
 I don't know if there was a different email 4.0.1 distributed with
 Python 2.5 as opposed to Python 2.5.1, or if yours is modified by Sun
 in some way (if it is a Sun package), but the problem is in your
 email/message.py get_content_charset method.
 
 All the email 4.0.x versions I have define this method as in the
 attached message.get_content_charset.txt file.
 
 In your case, the statement
 
 charset = unicode(charset, 'us-ascii').encode('us-ascii')
 
 is attempting to convert charset to unicode without first testing if it
 is already a unicode, which it is in the problem case.
 
 It appears there may be an additional incompatibility between Mailman
 2.1.12 and Python 2.5 as opposed to Python 2.5.x. I'll not this in the
 FAQ.
 
 If you can easily upgrade to a later Python 2.5.x, I think that will
 solve the problem. If not, you could patch
 /usr/local/lib/python2.5/email/message.py by replacing the definition
 of get_content_charset with that in the attached file.

Thanks.  Upgrading Python to v2.5.1 fixed the problem.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] What causes decoding Unicode is not supported?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

 From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
 
 Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:
 
 We are running Mailman 2.1.12 on Solaris 9 SPARC, Python 2.4.2. What
 causes the following decoding Unicode is not supported error message?
 I've looked at digest.mbox and didn't find any Unicode.
 [...]
 Your cron job on ornl71
 /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests
 
 produced the following output:
 
 List: dcaplusplus: problem processing
 /usr/local/mailman/lists/dcaplusplus/digest.mbox:
 decoding Unicode is not supported
 
 
 I think this may be the Mailman 2.1.12 is not compatible with python
 2.4.x (x3) issue. See the March 2009 note at the end of the FAQ at
 http://wiki.list.org/x/pYA9.

My original message was incorrect (I was looking at the wrong system).  The 
system generating the error message is running python 2.5, which is stated as 
one of the recommended Python versions.  What else can I check?

Thanks, L

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Re: [Mailman-Users] What causes decoding Unicode is not supported?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

 From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
 
 Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:
 
  From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
 
  Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:
 
  We are running Mailman 2.1.12 on Solaris 9 SPARC, Python 2.4.2.
 What
  causes the following decoding Unicode is not supported error
 message?
  I've looked at digest.mbox and didn't find any Unicode.
  [...]
  Your cron job on ornl71
  /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests
  
  produced the following output:
  
  List: dcaplusplus: problem processing
  /usr/local/mailman/lists/dcaplusplus/digest.mbox:
  decoding Unicode is not supported
 
 
  I think this may be the Mailman 2.1.12 is not compatible with
 python
  2.4.x (x3) issue. See the March 2009 note at the end of the FAQ at
  http://wiki.list.org/x/pYA9.
 
 My original message was incorrect (I was looking at the wrong system).
 The system generating the error message is running python 2.5, which is
 stated as one of the recommended Python versions.  What else can I
 check?
 
 
...
 Add the two lines
 import traceback
 traceback.print_exc()
...
 
 cron/senddigestsx -l dcaplusplus
 
 This should produce a traceback in addition to the above message. Post
 that.
 

Thank you for the excellent instructions.  Here is the output:

ornl71# cron/senddigestsx -l dcaplusplus
List: dcaplusplus: problem processing 
/usr/local/mailman/lists/dcaplusplus/digest.mbox:
decoding Unicode is not supported
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File cron/senddigestsx, line 89, in main
mlist.send_digest_now()
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py, line 60, in send_digest_now
ToDigest.send_digests(self, mboxfp)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 142, in 
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 339, in 
send_i18n_digests
mcset = msg.get_content_charset('')
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.5/email/message.py, line 759, in 
get_content_charset
charset = unicode(charset, 'us-ascii').encode('us-ascii')
TypeError: decoding Unicode is not supported

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[Mailman-Users] What causes decoding Unicode is not supported?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

We are running Mailman 2.1.12 on Solaris 9 SPARC, Python 2.4.2. What causes the 
following decoding Unicode is not supported error message?  I've looked at 
digest.mbox and didn't find any Unicode.

Thanks, Larry

-Original Message-
From: GNU Mailman [mailto:mail...@ornl71.ornl.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:00 PM
To: mail...@ornl71.ornl.gov
Subject: [Mailman Site List] Output from cron command

Your cron job on ornl71
/usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/senddigests

produced the following output:

List: dcaplusplus: problem processing 
/usr/local/mailman/lists/dcaplusplus/digest.mbox:
decoding Unicode is not supported

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Email subscribe interface and QP encoding

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I have submitted this as Bug 1829061.

 Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote:

 If I send an email from Outlook to the listname-request address with
 this line:
 
 subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I get back the following result:
 
 Your authorization is required for a mailing list subscription request
 approval:
 
 For:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ...
 
 Notice the 3D in front of the original address.  It looks like
 Mailman isn't decoding the quoted-printable encoding before parsing the
 message body.  Why is that?  Should I file a bug report?


 It looks like you are correct. It is apparently an oversight. I'll fix
 it without the report, but it is always good to have the report in the
 tracker for the next person that finds the bug.


 (Note: when I sent the message from Outlook, I forced it to plain
 text)


 Does Outlook have an option to use 8bit encoding rather than QP, and

Not that I know of.

 why is it QP encoding a message that appears to not have any 8bit
 characters?

I don't know, but probably because it's Outlook.
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[Mailman-Users] Email subscribe interface and QP encoding

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

If I send an email from Outlook to the listname-request address with this line:

subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I get back the following result:

Your authorization is required for a mailing list subscription request
approval:

For:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...

Notice the 3D in front of the original address.  It looks like Mailman isn't 
decoding the quoted-printable encoding before parsing the message body.  Why is 
that?  Should I file a bug report?

(Note: when I sent the message from Outlook, I forced it to plain text)
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[Mailman-Users] Can admin subscribe users via e-mail?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

We are migrating our lists from Majordomo to Mailman.  Some list owners have 
been subscribing users to their lists by sending emails which contain lines 
like this:

approve password subscribe/unsubscribe listname email address

Does Mailman have an equivalent way for list admins to subscribe users via the 
email interface?  If so, how is it done?

Thanks, Larry
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[Mailman-Users] Archive search?

[Rosenbaum, Larry M.]

Is there a way for users to search the Mailman list archives
(pipermail)?

 

Larry

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