[Mailman-Users] Re: "Error: Unknown virtual host" trying to create new list from web UI

[Sean McBride]

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 10:21:55 -0700, Mark Sapiro said:

>I suspect the permissions issue may have been in doing the MTA task, so
>if you have "MTA = 'Postfix'" in mm_cfg.py, your data/aliases(.db)
>didn't get updated. You can run `bin/genaliases` to fix that.

I ran it and it output nothing.

>I think the list is OK. You should check that you have the directories
>and files
>
>archives/private/LISTNAME/
>archives/private/LISTNAME/index.html
>archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/

I had only index.html.

>bin/rmlist -a LISTNAME

That did it!  It recreated fine.  Yay.  Thanks.

I noticed that X-BeenThere on this new list is now foo...@rogue-research.com 
instead of foo...@mail.rogue-research.com which I sorta expected due to 
changing those host variables.

I guess I should now use that `fix_url` command to make all my other lists 
match up.  Is that a generally painless experience? :)

Thanks,

Sean

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[Mailman-Users] Re: "Error: Unknown virtual host" trying to create new list from web UI

[Sean McBride]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 22:42:23 -0700, Mark Sapiro said:

>On 7/29/20 10:24 PM, Sean McBride wrote:
>> 
>> After reading the comments in that file and FAQ 4.29, I *think* the
>correct solution is to append the following 5 lines to my mm_cfg.py:
>> 
>> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'rogue-research.com'
>> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mail.rogue-research.com'
>> DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
>> VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
>> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
>> 
>> Is that correct?
>
>Yes, that looks good.

Thanks!

So that got me further.  Then I got "We're sorry, we hit a bug!"  The error 
logs showed a permission error.  So I ran `check_perms -f` and it found and 
fixed ~5000 permission errors that somehow existed.

But now I try to create the list again, but it says "Error: List already 
exists".  I fear it's only half-created.  Is the best thing to do now delete 
the list and recreate it?

(Congrats on having great docs BTW, they had just about all the info I needed!)

Cheers,

Sean

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[Mailman-Users] "Error: Unknown virtual host" trying to create new list from web UI

[Sean McBride]

Hi all,

I'm running mailman 2.1.x.  I haven't had need to create a new list in years, 
but now I need to.  Trying to do so from the web UI here:
 <https://mail.rogue-research.com/mailman/create>

results in:
 "Error: Unknown virtual host: mail.rogue-research.com".

After searching for this, I now have a partial understanding of the problem.

In my Defaults.py I see:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'foo.rogue-research.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'foo.rogue-research.com'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/'

foo is the real hostname of the machine. I guess that's how it ended up there? 
After reading the comments in that file and FAQ 4.29, I *think* the correct 
solution is to append the following 5 lines to my mm_cfg.py:

DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'rogue-research.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mail.rogue-research.com'
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

Is that correct?

Many thanks,

Sean

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

[Sean McBride]

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:36:59 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users said:

>On 4/10/19 12:49 PM, Sean McBride wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 12:38:34 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users said:
>> 
>>> How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why
>>> do you believe you will need it in the future?
>> 
>> Fixes to security vulnerabilities basically.  If/when some new one is
>found after 2020, you're screwed.
>
>Screwed how, exactly?

In the way you described (below).

>With a properly sandboxed application your security vulnerability has to
>be a) exploitable through that application and b) able to break out of
>the sandbox and wreak havoc to your host system.
>
>It's all perfectly possible in theory but really, do a basic risk
>analysis before jumping on the knee-jerk security bandwagon.

Agreed. But should it happen, there'll be no patches to python2 forthcoming.

Sean


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

[Sean McBride]

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 12:38:34 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users said:

>>   Now that all support for Python 2 is supposed to go away in 2020 are
>> people going to move off of mailman 2?
>
>How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why
>do you believe you will need it in the future?

Fixes to security vulnerabilities basically.  If/when some new one is found 
after 2020, you're screwed.

Sean


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting up SSL Virtualhost for Mailman

[Sean Son]

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Jim Plumb  wrote:

>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mailman-Users
> [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+jim=jimplumb@python.org] On Behalf Of
> Sean
> Son
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:04 PM
> To: Mark Sapiro
> Cc: mailman-users@python.org
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting up SSL Virtualhost for Mailman
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Mark Sapiro  wrote:
>
> > On 09/11/2018 11:47 AM, Sean Son wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply man. I want to require HTTPS for Mailman and all
> of
> > > its lists. I already have an SSL cert . I am running Apache as the
> > > webserver on RHEL 7.  I took a look at the FAQs on the Mailman site,
> > > regarding setting up SSL. It mentions that a virtual host can be set up
> > for
> > > HTTP to redirect to HTTPS, and a virtualhost can be set up for the
> HTTPS
> > > and mailman configured to only work on HTTPs.  It is the latter part,
> > > setting up the VirtualHost for HTTPS and configuring mailman to work
> only
> > > with HTTPs, which I am lost on.
> >
> > There are multiple ways to do this. It depends on whether you have other
> > virtual hosts and if so, if they should also be able to access mailman.
> >
> > In the simplest case, just put the various things for the mailman config
> > such as
> >
> > ScriptAlias /mailman/ /path/to/mailman/cgi-bin
> > Alias   /pipermail/  /path/to/mailman/archives/public/
> >
> > 
> > Options ExecCGI
> > Require all granted
> > 
> >
> > 
> > Options +FollowSymLinks
> > Require all granted
> > 
> >
> > directly in the mailman https virtual host.
> >
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> So i got HTTPS to work on the main site, but now when I access the list
> archives, i see that they are still being accessed through HTTP and not
> HTTPS
>
> So I then ran this command:
>
> $prefix/bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url
>
> and each of the lists were listed but the word "locked" appeared by each
> one of them.. After the command finished running and I restarted Mailman as
> well as Apache, I still see that the list archives are being accessed
> through HTTP and not HTTPS.  Any ideas on how I should resolve this? What
> does "locked" mean that appeared by each list name:
>
> /usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url
> Importing fix_url...
> Running fix_url.fix_url()...
> Loading list list0 (locked)
> Saving list
> Loading list list1 (locked)
> Saving list
> Loading list list2 (locked)
> Saving list
> .
> .
> Finalizing
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> From my experience in recently setting up Mailman with HTTPS you cannot use
> fix_url but instead add this setting to mm_cfg.py:
>
> DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
>
>
>
>

Thanks everyone! It worked!!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting up SSL Virtualhost for Mailman

[Sean Son]

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 09/11/2018 11:47 AM, Sean Son wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply man. I want to require HTTPS for Mailman and all of
> > its lists. I already have an SSL cert . I am running Apache as the
> > webserver on RHEL 7.  I took a look at the FAQs on the Mailman site,
> > regarding setting up SSL. It mentions that a virtual host can be set up
> for
> > HTTP to redirect to HTTPS, and a virtualhost can be set up for the HTTPS
> > and mailman configured to only work on HTTPs.  It is the latter part,
> > setting up the VirtualHost for HTTPS and configuring mailman to work only
> > with HTTPs, which I am lost on.
>
> There are multiple ways to do this. It depends on whether you have other
> virtual hosts and if so, if they should also be able to access mailman.
>
> In the simplest case, just put the various things for the mailman config
> such as
>
> ScriptAlias /mailman/ /path/to/mailman/cgi-bin
> Alias   /pipermail/  /path/to/mailman/archives/public/
>
> 
> Options ExecCGI
> Require all granted
> 
>
> 
> Options +FollowSymLinks
> Require all granted
> 
>
> directly in the mailman https virtual host.
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So i got HTTPS to work on the main site, but now when I access the list
archives, i see that they are still being accessed through HTTP and not
HTTPS

So I then ran this command:

$prefix/bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url

and each of the lists were listed but the word "locked" appeared by each
one of them.. After the command finished running and I restarted Mailman as
well as Apache, I still see that the list archives are being accessed
through HTTP and not HTTPS.  Any ideas on how I should resolve this? What
does "locked" mean that appeared by each list name:

/usr/lib/mailman/bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url
Importing fix_url...
Running fix_url.fix_url()...
Loading list list0 (locked)
Saving list
Loading list list1 (locked)
Saving list
Loading list list2 (locked)
Saving list
.
.
Finalizing
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Re: [Mailman-Users] -EXT-Re: Setting up SSL Virtualhost for Mailman

[Sean Son]

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 09/11/2018 02:00 PM, Parker, Michael D. wrote:
> > HmmmI seem to remember that there are places in the configuration
> files where http:// that would need to be changed to https://.
> > If I also recall, existing mail lists have the http:// reference in
> them which would have to be changed also.
>
>
> This is all covered in the FAQ at 
> which the OP said he read.
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I will try them and see what happens
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting up SSL Virtualhost for Mailman

[Sean Son]

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 09/10/2018 09:04 AM, Sean Son wrote:
> >
> > I have to set up SSL for our mailman instance and I am stuck on how the
> SSL
> > Virtualhost for HTTPs should be set up. I know the FAQ on the list.org
> > website explains all of the steps for setting up HTTPS with mailman, but
> I
> > do not see anything that explains how to set up the actual virtual host
> and
> > which options and directives should be in the virtual host.. Any and ALL
> > help is greatly appreciated!!
>
>
> If I understand correctly, this is a web server question, not a Mailman
> question.
>
> Please elaborate. Are you asking how to set up your web server? if so,
> what web server are you using (Apache, nginx, ??). Also, what are you
> trying to do. I.e. do you want to require https for Mailman or only
> allow it? Do you have an SSL certificate? If not, see
> <https://letsencrypt.org/>.
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Hey Mark

Thanks for the reply man. I want to require HTTPS for Mailman and all of
its lists. I already have an SSL cert . I am running Apache as the
webserver on RHEL 7.  I took a look at the FAQs on the Mailman site,
regarding setting up SSL. It mentions that a virtual host can be set up for
HTTP to redirect to HTTPS, and a virtualhost can be set up for the HTTPS
and mailman configured to only work on HTTPs.  It is the latter part,
setting up the VirtualHost for HTTPS and configuring mailman to work only
with HTTPs, which I am lost on. I did research online and I found this
posting:

https://www.apachelounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=30938

But it does not seem that the OP ever got his issue resolved. He did not
post any updates.  So, to summarize, I need assistance on setting up the
VirtualHost for the HTTPS only access to Mailman


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[Mailman-Users] Setting up SSL Virtualhost for Mailman

[Sean Son]

Hello all

I have to set up SSL for our mailman instance and I am stuck on how the SSL
Virtualhost for HTTPs should be set up. I know the FAQ on the list.org
website explains all of the steps for setting up HTTPS with mailman, but I
do not see anything that explains how to set up the actual virtual host and
which options and directives should be in the virtual host.. Any and ALL
help is greatly appreciated!!


Thanks

Sean
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2 and 3

[Sean McBride]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:16:41 -0700, Mark Sapiro said:

>Mailman 2 is definitely end of life. I am the only one actively
>supporting it at this point and while I continue to offer help and fix
>bugs, it's not what I want to be doing.

Is there any planned date where security updates end?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] My first time setting up mailman, some misc questions/comments

[Sean McBride]

Hi again,

Another comment and question if I may:

1) The mailman-install.pdf has text like this:


Add this to the bottom of the ‘$prefix/Mailman/mm cfg.py’ file:
  MTA = ’Postfix’


It would be nice to be able to copy-paste that exactly, but alas the pdf use 
smart quotes, which is of course not what Python wants.


2) Does postfix need to be on the same host as Mailman?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] My first time setting up mailman, some misc questions/comments

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:16:33 -0700, Mark Sapiro said:

>I've done that now in the online versions (refresh the page if it isn't
>the 'April 14' version. The update will be in the tarball of the next
>(2.1.22) release.

Nice!

>That section has a highlighted note at the top saying: "Much of the
>following is no longer applicable to more recent versions of MacOSX. See
>the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/O4A9 for links to more recent
>information." I think that's sufficient.

Up to you of course, but everything after that useful first sentence is so 
incredibly out of date that there's really no point having it there. :)  All 
the OS X versions mentioned there have had no security updates in years, so 
running something like mailman on them would be insanity, and should be 
discouraged IMHO. :)

But let me write my currently vapourwave newer notes and you can decide then if 
you want to paste it in...

>You also need to register as a user and let us know your registered user
>name.

Yes, sorry, I read too fast.  Done that too now. :)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] My first time setting up mailman, some misc questions/comments

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 09:07:29 -0700, Mark Sapiro said:

>> - the docs say "Mailman should work pretty much out of the box with a
>standard Postfix installation. It has been tested with various Postfix
>versions up to and including Postfix 2.1.5."  I'm assuming that version
>number is just out-of-date?  Does mailman work with modern postfix?
>
>
>Yes. I will update the installation manual.

Thanks!

>I am guessing the Mac OS X docs you refer to are the wiki page at
><http://wiki.list.org/x/4030523>.

Yes, and also section 15.3 of mailman-install.pdf.

>If so, you can update that yourself.
>See the first paragraph at <http://wiki.list.org/FrontPage> to obtain
>write access to the wiki.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] My first time setting up mailman, some misc questions/comments

[Sean McBride]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 01:03:18 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull said:

>If you're working with Mailman 2, dubious.  There may never be another
>release of Mailman 2 (but Mark is authoritative).  And Mac OS X has
>been somewhat unkind to us (Apple's Mailman has been a long-term
>source of support requests to which we mostly have to reply "uuuhhh
>... install from source and we'll get back to you, Apple's Mailman is
>*weird*".

Yes, I've heard.  Of course, Apple hasn't included mailman since OS X 10.6, and 
likely never will again given their dislike of GPL3.

>Mailman 3 docs would be very welcome.

I'm sticking with 2 for now, as I'm familiar with its web UI and it seems 
better documented, more widely used, less bleeding edge, etc. :)

> > - OS X's native equivalent of cron is launchd, would you accept
> >   launchd config files matching those of crontab.in for inclusion?
>
>I don't know if Mark will, but I will definitely ensure they get into
>Mailman 3, or at least are well-documented (Barry makes the decisions
>about code, but docs are always welcome).
>
>Question for you: last I heard, the "launchctl load -w" approach was
>deprecated by Apple, but there was no well-documented replacement.
>Worse, there was no replacement that actually worked in my
>experience. ;-)  Has that situation improved?

I'm not aware of the problems you refer to.  "launchctl load -w" works fine in 
my experience, though the details of exactly how it works have changed between 
releases.  Like the man page says: "In previous versions, this option would 
modify the configuration file. Now the state of the Disabled key is stored 
elsewhere on-disk..."  Perhaps that's what you're talking about?

>Note: Mailman likely has to work on at least Yosemite, possibly
>Mavericks or even Mountain Lion.  Knowing Apple, even if there's a
>working canonical incantation for the most recent El Capitan, likely
>it hasn't been backported. :-(

I'll be doing this on El Capitan.  So far I can say that mailman builds. :)

I guess I'll keep notes, and share them here when done.

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[Mailman-Users] My first time setting up mailman, some misc questions/comments

[Sean McBride]

Hi all,

I'm setting up mailman for the first time, and have a few questions/comments:

- the docs say "Mailman should work pretty much out of the box with a standard 
Postfix installation. It has been tested with various Postfix versions up to 
and including Postfix 2.1.5."  I'm assuming that version number is just 
out-of-date?  Does mailman work with modern postfix?

- I'm doing this on OS X, and notice the docs for that OS are all *very* out of 
date.  Would you accept a patch to update the docs?

- OS X's native equivalent of cron is launchd, would you accept launchd config 
files matching those of crontab.in for inclusion?

Thanks,

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[Mailman-Users] Question about the Group mismatch error when updating mailman service

[Sean]

Dear all

I have a strange question for creating a new list after updating mailman
server.

Currently, I had updated my mailman server to a new machine.
(mailman-2.1.5_2 - mailman-2.1.9_5)
My server is FreeBSD 7.0, Postfix + mailman 2.1.9_5

And I translate the lists and archives on old machine to new machine.
I called these lists old lists. The old lists can work correctly on the
new machine.

Now I create a new list by bin/newlist, but it got a error when I send mail
to this new list which is
 /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post eos. Command output: Group mismatch
   error.  Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group
   nobody, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group
   mailman.  Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group
   nobody, or re-run configure,  providing the command line option
   `--with-mail-gid=mailman'.

So I reinstall mailman server with --with-mail-gid=mailman setting.
Then the new list can work correctly.

But the other question happened. Group mismatch error happeded on the old
lists which is
 /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post xip. Command output: Group mismatch
   error.  Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group
   mailman, but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group
   nobody.  Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group
   mailman, or re-run configure,  providing the command line option
   `--with-mail-gid=nobody' 

Now I'm confused at this situation because I didn't change the system's mail
server. But it shows that the system's mail server executed the mail script
as group mailman and nobody after I reinstalled. Why?
How can I solve this question? Can anyone give me any idea?

Thanks a lot!!!

Best Regards,
Sean
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[Mailman-Users] Global Subscribe

[Sean Wilkins]

Does mailman have the ability to send one email to globally subscribe to
all lists on the server?

thx for the help.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Site Admin email Problem

[Sean Murphy]

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Sean Murphy wrote:

Mailman used to send me an email as the site admin that a new list has 
been created.  I use the web interface to create new lists.  This email 
had the aliases I needed to add to the /etc/mail/aliases file in the 
body of the email.   I have upgraded Mailman months ago but didn't 
notice that I had not been receiving this until now as the lists were 
already setup.


I know I can run the genaliases command to get the same output but I 
fear I am not seeing all of the mailman site admin email.


Is the email sent from a python script to an alias? is it specified in a 
config file?



This mail is only sent if MTA = 'Manual'. If you have MTA = 'Postfix'
or MTA = None in mm_cfg.py, no aliases mail will be sent.

When sent, the mail is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or whatever the name
of the site list is). You can test if this mail is deliverable by just
mailing anything to that address.



I checked the mm_cfg.py and then the defaults.py it is currently set to 
manual, that should be good.  So I think the email address for the site 
admin is incorrect.  I did a couple of searches in those files above 
with no luck.  Where do I change the site admin's email address?


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[Mailman-Users] How do I change the host_name preference

[Sean Murphy]

In the general options admin page there is a setting Host name this 
list prefers for email.


When I create a list it uses calarts.edu in the field but I would like 
it to automatically use the FQDN server.calarts.edu.


Is there a way to set it permanently for all new list on creations.

Thanks

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman Site Admin email Problem

[Sean Murphy]

Mailman used to send me an email as the site admin that a new list has 
been created.  I use the web interface to create new lists.  This email 
had the aliases I needed to add to the /etc/mail/aliases file in the 
body of the email.   I have upgraded Mailman months ago but didn't 
notice that I had not been receiving this until now as the lists were 
already setup.


I know I can run the genaliases command to get the same output but I 
fear I am not seeing all of the mailman site admin email.


Is the email sent from a python script to an alias? is it specified in a 
config file?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Same list name, different domains...

[Sean Butler]

On Jan 17, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Sean Butler wrote:

 My question now is, that when I run genaliases, it changes the  
 virtual
 mailman file back to hrca_board@ instead of just board@, so does that
 mean every time I need to run genaliases, I'm going to have to  
 manually
 make this change?


 Yes.

 But why do you want to run genaliases?  Normally this is only required
 to sync your aliases and virtual-mailman files after perhaps making
 configuration changes of some kind. Normal list creation and deletion
 should just update the affected entries in these files, and will not
 change the [EMAIL PROTECTED] entries back to hrca_board.


Ah, ok... Then I should be ok.

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Same list name, different domains...

[Sean Butler]

I've searched around and the following thread is the closest to what  
I need, but I am having trouble getting it to work:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-November/023712.html


I need to setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], both of which  
are running as virtual domains...  I'm running debian and postfix.

In /var/lib/mailman/data directory, I end up with two files:

aliases
virtual-mailman


In the aliases file, the original [EMAIL PROTECTED] looks like this:

# STANZA START: board
# CREATED: Wed Jan 16 13:30:03 2008
board: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post board
board-admin:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin board
board-bounces: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces board
...

And the new [EMAIL PROTECTED] looks like this:

# STANZA START: hrca_board
# CREATED: Wed Jan 16 13:30:03 2008
hrca_board: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post hrca_board
hrca_board-admin:   |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin  
hrca_board
hrca_board-bounces: |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces  
hrca_board
...


In the virtual mailman file, the original [EMAIL PROTECTED] looks likes this:

# STANZA START: board
# CREATED: Wed Jan 16 13:30:03 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   board
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   board-admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   board-bounces
...

# STANZA START: hrca_board
# CREATED: Wed Jan 16 13:30:03 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   hrca_board
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   hrca_board-admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   hrca_board-bounces
...

 From the instructions in the thread I found, I thought I should just  
modify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the virtual  
mailman file (and all the other ones like -admin, etc.), but that  
doesn't seem to do it...

Also, if I run genaliases, then everything changes back to the  
original state anyway.

Am I missing something???


As additional info, I have postfix set up with:

virtual_maps =  hash:/etc/postfix/db/virtual,
 hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,
  hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases


Thanks for any info or ideas anyone can provide.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Same list name, different domains...

[Sean Butler]

On Jan 16, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

  From the instructions in the thread I found, I thought I should just
 modify the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the virtual
 mailman file (and all the other ones like -admin, etc.), but that
 doesn't seem to do it...


 It should as long as you run postmap after making the mods.

 You will also want to set [EMAIL PROTECTED] in acceptable_aliases for the
 hrca_board list, and possibly other changes?

 In what respect does it not do it? What happens when you mail
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Ok, I did all this, and it works...

My question now is, that when I run genaliases, it changes the  
virtual mailman file back to hrca_board@ instead of just board@, so  
does that mean every time I need to run genaliases, I'm going to have  
to manually make this change?

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] line breaks

[Sean]

This is probably an old topic to this list but I'm at a loss of how to
explain the issue to some my mailman list users.

Basically, they report messages coming through the list with odd line
breaks.  For example:

 This is the text of their message.  After it is received from the list it
 places
 a line break so that some lines only contain one word and a new line
 starts.

They feel it is the list doing this as they report the message looks fine
when they send it to themselves.

As I understand it has to do with the display system and how the mail is
composed.  Some mail clients will send the paragraph as one long line with
a line break at the end of it, while some mail clients put a new line at
the end of each line.  Then the display system may have less columns than
than where the new line is placed at and thus results in the mangled
text.

Does that sound right?  Any feedback on the issue is welcomed and
appreciated.

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] mailman virtual applicance?

[Sean Murphy]

Hi,

I would like to install a mailman list server on a machine
with as little difficulty as possible - a nice way to do this,
I think, is using the virtual appliance idea - has anyone
created a mailman virtual appliance for VMWare or for
Xen?

Thanks,
Seán.

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[Mailman-Users] Customizing message to large moderation email

[Knight, Eric Sean]

We are going to start limiting the size some of our internal mailing
lists and would like to customize the message that is sent to the poster
to include the number of our helpdesk if their message is to large.
Where is this text stored? 


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[Mailman-Users] Hostile address error

[Sean]

A list admin of a mailman server I administrate brought this error to my
attention when attempting to add an address that contained a forward slash
in the local part(real address not provided for security reasons):

  test/[EMAIL PROTECTED]  -- Hostile address (illegal characters)

The admin pointed out that rfc 822 states that the / is permitted in the
local part of an email address.

I suppose that Mailman has it reasons for not permitting an address that
contains a / but it would be nice to know what the reasons are to pass
long to the admin.  Can anyone provide any input on this?

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] bounce issue

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

I think I am on the down hill slide of this adventure but I am still 
stuck on a couple of things.  for a little back story:  I have two 
mailman installs on one machine, due primarily to one using the mysql 
connector and one being a vanilla install.  I am in the process of 
trying to figure out why my mysql based list isn't working. the test 
list on it sends out list mail but it shows as coming from the bounce 
address.  the From field shows correctly, but the sender field shows 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Im looking in the logs and I see that:

Jan 06 11:03:09 2006 (19833) post to test_emag from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=52564, 
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED], success

it was posted successfully.  What else can I check?

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce issue

[Sean Roe]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Sean Roe wrote:
   
 I am in the process of 
 trying to figure out why my mysql based list isn't working. the test 
 list on it sends out list mail but it shows as coming from the bounce 
 address.  the From field shows correctly, but the sender field shows 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

 This is exactly what it's supposed to be. The envelope is from the
 -bounces address so that bounces will be returned to the -bounces
 address for automated bounce processing.

 The -bounces address is also placed in Sender: and Errors-To: headers
 for the benefit of non-compliant MTAs.

   
Ooops my bad.  Sorry I misunderstood what the field is for.  So it is 
working as promised.  I guess I'll try sending out the big list now 
~120k users.

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] virtual domains problem

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

I am setting up a mailman server running Debian sarge, exim4, and 
mailman 2.1.6 that supports several domains, and have run into a bit of 
a problem.  I have set up the virtual domains per the documentation but 
I am running into an issue when I test the installations.  Here is the 
output from the mainlog in exim4:

2006-01-03 09:42:52 1EtpFL-0003iz-RY == [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport defer (2): No such file or 
directory: failed to chdir to /data/mailman/:adoptionweek.com


I believe the problem is the colon at the begining of sub directory 
name.  I cant seem to find where that is coming from.  Below are the 
changes I made to exim to deal with the virt domains:

in 01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:

MM_HOME=/data/mailman/${lc::$domain}
MM_UID=mailman
MM_GID=mailman
domainlist 
mm_domains=adoptionweek.com:lists.adoptionweek.com:e-magazine.adoption.com:lists.adoption.com:adoption.c
om:adoptionlists.com
MM_WRAP=MM_HOME/mail/mailman
MM_LISTCHK=MM_HOME/lists/${lc::$local_part}/config.pck

in 099_exim4-config_mailman:

mailman_router:
driver = accept
domains = +mm_domains
require_files = MM_LISTCHK
local_part_suffix_optional
local_part_suffix = -admin : \
-bounces   : -bounces+* : \
-confirm   : -confirm+* : \
-join  : -leave : \
-owner: -request   : \
-subscribe : -unsubscribe
transport = mailman_transport


in 30_exim4-config_mailman:
  mailman_transport:
driver = pipe
command = MM_WRAP \
  '${if def:local_part_suffix \
{${sg{$local_part_suffix}{-(\\w+)(\\+.*)?}{\$1}}} \
{post}}' \
  $local_part
current_directory = MM_HOME
home_directory = MM_HOME
user = MM_UID
group = MM_GID

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Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual domains problem

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

The changes I made were to exim's list_macrodefs:
from:
MM_LISTCHK=MM_HOME/lists/${lc::$local_part}/config.pck
to:
MM_LISTCHK=MM_HOME/lists/${lc:$local_part}/config.pck

and mailman_router:
from:
require_files = MM_LISTCHK
to:
require_files = ; MM_LISTCHK

I made the changes above, but now exim4 says the addresses are unroutable:
#exim4 -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R: system_aliases for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is undeliverable:
  Unrouteable address

I reverted the changes and get this:
#exim4 -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  router = mailman_router, transport = mailman_transport

Is there anything else I need to do to make this work?  I didn't see any 
other reference to MM_LISTCHK

Thanks,
Sean

John W. Baxter wrote:
 On 1/3/06 9:29 AM, Sean Roe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The macro
   
 MM_LISTCHK=MM_HOME/lists/${lc::$local_part}/config.pck
 
 is later used in a list context
   
 require_files = MM_LISTCHK
 

 So I to would expect the : in $(lc:$local_part) to have to be doubled.  But
 what seems to be happening is that the second of the pair of colons is being
 picked up as part of the string to be lower-cased.

 You could make certain that the colon *doesn't* need to be doubled by
 changing the list separator character in the require_files option:
 require_files = ; MM_LISTCHK

 If you do that, then for sure you only need a single : in the MM_LISTCHK
 macro.  (You need to do the same magic other places the macro is used in
 list context.)

   --John

   

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Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual domains problem

[Sean Roe]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Sean Roe wrote:
   
 2006-01-03 09:42:52 1EtpFL-0003iz-RY == [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport defer (2): No such file or 
 directory: failed to chdir to /data/mailman/:adoptionweek.com


 I believe the problem is the colon at the begining of sub directory 
 name.  I cant seem to find where that is coming from.  Below are the 
 changes I made to exim to deal with the virt domains:

 in 01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs:

 MM_HOME=/data/mailman/${lc::$domain}
 

 Where does this come from? Normally it would just be something like

 MM_HOME=/data/mailman/

 and not include any reference to $domain. It is the path to but not
 including the lists/ directory in the Mailman installation.

   
this is a virtual domain installation.  /data/mailman/{domain} refers 
different mailman installations:

/data/mailman/adoptionlists.com
/data/mailman/adoptionweek.com
ect.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual domains problem

[Sean Roe]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Sean Roe wrote:

   
 this is a virtual domain installation.  /data/mailman/{domain} refers 
 different mailman installations:

 /data/mailman/adoptionlists.com
 /data/mailman/adoptionweek.com
 ect.
 


 Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were using Mailman virtual
 domains, not separate Mailman instances.

   
Unfortunately, I have to do it this way, with multiple instances, as one 
group of lists are using the mysql adapter and one group isn't.  Getting 
back to the original posting, do you know why I am picking up that colon 
on the beguining of the domainname?

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[Mailman-Users] How to apply the security patch

[Sean Murray]

I was would like to know how to apply the security patch CAN-2005-0202?

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[Mailman-Users] issues after conversion

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

I am in the process of transfering over my lists to a new machine and 
converting them to mysql.  I have got the lists created, copied the old 
lists directory over and started to create the aliases for exim4.  But 
whenever I run genaliases, I Iget the following output:

#./bin/genaliases
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./bin/genaliases, line 116, in ?
main()
  File ./bin/genaliases, line 94, in main
mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=False)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 105, in __init__
self._memberadaptor = MysqlMemberships(self)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MysqlMemberships.py, line 118, in __init__
self.cursor.execute (CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS %s (
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py, line 137, 
in execute
self.errorhandler(self, exc, value)
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py, line 
33, in defaulterrorhandler
raise errorclass, errorvalue
_mysql_exceptions.ProgrammingError: (1064, You have an error in your 
SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server 
version for the right syntax to use near '-child (\n  address 
varchar(255) NOT NULL,\n  hide enum('Y','N') N)
Exception exceptions.AttributeError: MysqlMemberships instance has no 
attribute 'conn' in bound method MysqlMemberships.__del__ of 
Mailman.MysqlMemberships.MysqlMemberships instance at 0x406250ec ignored

I checked the tables on the mysql server and they all appear to be 
there, so I am confused.  Any guidance would be helpful.

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[Mailman-Users] header and footers

[Sean]

Hi,

what script attaches the headers and footers to a message before it is
sent out?

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[Mailman-Users] new and improved stupid error

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

I am getting the following error now when I start up mailman:

[client 192.168.4.199] Exception exceptions.A
ttributeError: MysqlMemberships instance has no attribute 'cursor' in 
bound m
ethod MysqlMemberships.__del__ of 
Mailman.MysqlMemberships.MysqlMemberships ins
tance at 0x40221a8c ignored


I think the other sysadmin may of removed something by accident (or on 
purpose)  :)
Again, I am not a python guy at all, so be gentle.

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[Mailman-Users] MS entourage smart quotes

[Sean]

Hi,

Has anyone using mailman 2.1.x experienced problems with MS smart quotes
not rending correctly in list posts?

I've got a list user using Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2418.  Any
apostrophes show up as a 1 like so:

  the city that really ruled everything. Kel¹s company paid


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[Mailman-Users] combining mailman servers and virt domains and converting to mysql

[Sean Roe]

Hi all,

I was am in the process of converting an old maillist server over to my 
new maillist server.  It currentl has a couple of lists on one domain  
running with the mysql patch.  What I want to do is combine this  server 
with the old lists that are non mysql based to the new server that is 
mysql based.  I have read the mail archive and the docs and I am not 
really sure how in what order to do stuff.  I think I can just copy over 
the lists directory and archive directory.  I should then run the mysql 
convert script.  Verify that all the lists got on the mysql server then 
move the IP to point to the new server? Am I in the right ballpark?

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[Mailman-Users] preserve feature

[Sean]

Hi,

In mailman 2.1.5, when tending to held posts there is a 'Preserve messages
for the site administrator' option under the 'Action to take on all these
held messages.' If Accept, Reject, or Discard is selected the message gets
removed from the Administrative requests page.  Only if Defer is selected
does the message remain there.  Am I missing something as to the
functionality of the 'Preserve messages for the site administrator'
option?

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[Mailman-Users] startup error in mailman

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

I am getting the following error whenever I start up mailman:

mailman01:/var/lib/mailman/Mailman# ../bin/mailmanctl start
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 547, in ?
main()
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 366, in main
check_for_site_list()
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 276, in check_for_site_list
sitelist = MailList(sitelistname, lock=0)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 104, in __init__
self._memberadaptor = MysqlMemberships(self)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MysqlMemberships.py, line 118, in __init__
self.cursor.execute (CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS %s (
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py, line 137, 
in execute
self.errorhandler(self, exc, value)
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py, line 
33, in defaulterrorhandler
raise errorclass, errorvalue
_mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (1044, Access denied for user 
'web_site'@'192.168.%' to database 'mailman')
Exception exceptions.AttributeError: MysqlMemberships instance has no 
attribute 'conn' in bound method MysqlMemberships.__del__ of 
Mailman.MysqlMemberships.MysqlMemberships instance at 0x404645ec ignored

Mailman no longer starts at this point.

Nothing has changed that I am aware of, I have connected from the 
mailman server to the database server with the mysql client using the 
same username and password and was successful, so I am at a loss.  Any 
suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] startup error in mailman

[Sean Roe]

Figured it out.  The user connecting to the mysql database did not have 
create rights, so it was failing to create the default table.

Thanks,
Sean

Sean Roe wrote:

Hi All,

I am getting the following error whenever I start up mailman:

mailman01:/var/lib/mailman/Mailman# ../bin/mailmanctl start
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 547, in ?
main()
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 366, in main
check_for_site_list()
  File ../bin/mailmanctl, line 276, in check_for_site_list
sitelist = MailList(sitelistname, lock=0)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 104, in __init__
self._memberadaptor = MysqlMemberships(self)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MysqlMemberships.py, line 118, in __init__
self.cursor.execute (CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS %s (
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/cursors.py, line 137, 
in execute
self.errorhandler(self, exc, value)
  File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MySQLdb/connections.py, line 
33, in defaulterrorhandler
raise errorclass, errorvalue
_mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (1044, Access denied for user 
'web_site'@'192.168.%' to database 'mailman')
Exception exceptions.AttributeError: MysqlMemberships instance has no 
attribute 'conn' in bound method MysqlMemberships.__del__ of 
Mailman.MysqlMemberships.MysqlMemberships instance at 0x404645ec ignored

Mailman no longer starts at this point.

Nothing has changed that I am aware of, I have connected from the 
mailman server to the database server with the mysql client using the 
same username and password and was successful, so I am at a loss.  Any 
suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error during mailman runs

[Sean Roe]

Mark Sapiro wrote:

Sean Roe wrote:
  

I am getting the following errors durring mailman runs:

mailman01:/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/out# Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ?
   main()
 File /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main
   qrunner.run()
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 87, in run
   self._cleanup()
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 220, in 
_cleanup
   BounceMixin._cleanup(self)
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 132, in 
_cleanup
   self._register_bounces()
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 120, in 
_register_bounces
   mlist.registerBounce(addr, msg, day=day)
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py, line 108, in registerBounce
   info = self.getBounceInfo(member)
 File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MysqlMemberships.py, line 530, in 
getBounceInfo
   row[2], row[0])
TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 5 arguments (6 given)


What does this mean?




It appears to be saying that the MysqlMemberships.py member adaptor
that you have installed is not compatible with your version of Mailman.

What Mailman version do you have?

What version of MysqlMemberships.py do you have (latest is 1.61,
2005-07-27)? See
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=839386group_id=103atid=300103
and/or http://www.orenet.co.uk/opensource/

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I am using 1.61 per the revision number on the file:
Kev Green, oRe Net (http://www.orenet.co.uk/), 2003/11/04
$Revision: 1.61 $

and the mailman version is via version in bin:
mailman01:/var/lib/mailman/bin# ./version
Using Mailman version: 2.1.6


Is there some sort of issue with spammers?  It doesn't happen all the 
time.  There appears to be no rhyme or reason for it.

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[Mailman-Users] Error during mailman runs

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

I am getting the following errors durring mailman runs:

mailman01:/var/lib/mailman/qfiles/out# Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ?
main()
  File /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main
qrunner.run()
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 87, in run
self._cleanup()
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 220, in 
_cleanup
BounceMixin._cleanup(self)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 132, in 
_cleanup
self._register_bounces()
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 120, in 
_register_bounces
mlist.registerBounce(addr, msg, day=day)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py, line 108, in registerBounce
info = self.getBounceInfo(member)
  File /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MysqlMemberships.py, line 530, in 
getBounceInfo
row[2], row[0])
TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 5 arguments (6 given)


What does this mean?

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[Mailman-Users] Bounce list weirdness

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

I am having a very strange problem with my mailman install, I keep 
getting these emails and I have no idea how to stop them.  I have exim4 
turned off as well as mailman unti I can figure this out we send out a 
newsletter once a week to people interested in adoption and only one 
user can send to the list but it seems that all the users are getting 
this mail:

The headers are:
 From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon Aug 22 16:24:07 2005
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from mailman01.adoptionweek.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
by mail.adoptionmedia.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id 
j7MNO515014228
(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO)
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:24:05 
-0700
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=mailman01.adoptionweek.com ident=mailman)
by mailman01.adoptionweek.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50)
id 1E7LPW-00034t-FM; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:08:58 -0700
Received: from [70.84.169.194] (helo=aac.dropspam.com)
by mailman01.adoptionweek.com with smtp (Exim 4.50)
id 1E5HGE-0004p3-57
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:18:50 -0700
Received: (qmail 30295 invoked by uid 500); 17 Aug 2005 07:17:39 -
Date: 17 Aug 2005 07:17:39 -
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [URGENT] - URGENT RESPONSE REQUIRED
Content-type: text/plain
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6
Precedence: list
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Id: emag.mail.adoptionweek.com
List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.adoptionweek.com/mailman/listinfo/emag,
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Archive: http://lists.adoptionweek.com/mailman/private/emag
List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Subscribe: http://lists.adoptionweek.com/mailman/listinfo/emag,
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-mail.adoptionmedia.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP 
for mor
e information
X-mail.adoptionmedia.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean
X-MailScanner-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: RO
X-Status:
X-Keywords:
X-UID: 62598



Here is a sample of the email:

Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED],

- URGENT RESPONSE REQUIRED -

Please note, an immediate response is required to prevent your messages 
from being automatically deleted.

Your e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] was NOT delievered.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is protected against viruses and spam by 
www.dropspam.com, and all new senders are required to be authenticated 
by clicking on the link below.

Please follow this link to add yourself to the approved sender list of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Mailman-Users] mysql and mailman part 2

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

here is some more information about my issue from yesturday.  On my 
default 'mailman' list I can add users and delete users no problem via 
the web interface, however our 'emagazine' database which is set up the 
same way, does not work.  the only real difference is the 'emagazine' 
database has over 123000 addresses in it.  Did I hit some sort of 
limitation?

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[Mailman-Users] web stuff for mailman

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

I think I am on the last issue I have setting this up.  I'll got to the 
website:

http://lists.adoption.com/mailman/admin and it will only show one list 
test_mag.

When I click on it, it goes to:

http://lists.adoption.com/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/test_mag

which doesn't work.it keeps sticking /cgi-bin/ in front of all the 
links it generates.  I have tried different iterations of mm_cfg.py

DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman'

and it still doesn't work.  So how do I fix this?

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[Mailman-Users] mailman and mysql

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

I am having some trouble with integration of mailman and mysql.  We have 
a mysql server that has the mailman databases on it and I can connect to 
it from the mailman server and can send emails out from it but the 
subscribe function appears to not work.  I get the confirmation email 
and I get all the correct responses from the mailman server but the user 
does not show up in the mailman database on the mysql server.  I am a 
little confused as the logs all say that the user has subscribbed 
successfully.  Where do I start to troubleshoot this?

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[Mailman-Users] debian sarge and mailman

[Sean Roe]

Hi All,

I am sure this has been addressed before but I am cant find it in the 
Archives.  I am setting up a mailman server on a new debian sarge 
install with exim4.  I installed the debian packages and am now geting 
bounce notices about gid:

The following text was generated during the delivery attempt:

-- pipe to |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman
   generated by [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail
wrapper script to be executed as group daemon, but
the system's mail server executed the mail script as
group Debian-exim.  Try tweaking the mail server to run the
script as group daemon, or re-run configure, 
providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=Debian-exim'.

What is the correct 'debian' way to to fix this?

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[Mailman-Users] GUI For Mailing List Management

[Sean Lewis]

Hi

We currently use QMailAdmin for admin of the mailing lists we serve but
quite frankly it's a pain in the arse.

Is there a better GUI Driven management tool for generating lists and user
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[Mailman-Users] Restricting Access to Lists by domain

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Hi

I'd like to know if it is at all possible to restrict access to mailing
lists to just one domain.

Any help with this would be much appreciated.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] privacy alert

[Sean]

Thanks Mark.

In general, I think this would be useful information to include in the
source to help system administrators block offending IP addresses from the
servers.  Any thoughts about this, pro or con, before I file an RFE?

Sean


On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Sean wrote:
 
 I was unable to find a template for the privacy alerts that Mailman sends
 out when an attempt is made to subscribe an address that is already
 subscribe to the list.

 That's because it's not a template.

 Where is text that Mailman uses to generate these
 messages?


 It is coded directly in Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py


 I would like to edit the text to include the IP address that made the
 subscribe attempt like it is include in the verify.txt.


 You can edit the text in the above module. I think you can use
 %(remote)s in this text to get the IP address.

 If you are concerned about languages other than English, you also have
 to edit the corresponding messages/language/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po
 and then regenerate the corresponding mailman.mo file using
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[Mailman-Users] privacy alert

[Sean]

I was unable to find a template for the privacy alerts that Mailman sends
out when an attempt is made to subscribe an address that is already
subscribe to the list.  Where is text that Mailman uses to generate these
messages?

I would like to edit the text to include the IP address that made the
subscribe attempt like it is include in the verify.txt.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] digest threshold problem

[Sean]

Thanks Mark.  Of course the incident has not repeated itself so it looks
like it was probably human error that caused the digest to be sent.

Sean

On Fri, 27 May 2005, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Sean wrote:

 Can anyone point me to the code that checks the digest size for
 the daily senddigests cron job?   Much appreciated.

 The daily senddigests cron job does not do any checking of digest size.
 The Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py handler is responsible for queueing
 the digest to be sent when it adds a post that puts the digest mailbox
 over the threshhold size.

 The periodic job (cron/senddigests) attempts to send a digest only for
 lists for which the digest_send_periodic attribute is true. The code is

 for listname in listnames:
 mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0)
 if mlist.digest_send_periodic:
 mlist.Lock()
 try:
 mlist.send_digest_now()
 mlist.Save()
 finally:
 mlist.Unlock()

 It's hard to see how that could possibly send a digest for a list for
 which digest_send_periodic is not true.

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[Mailman-Users] digest threshold problem

[Sean]

Hi,

I'm Running Mailman 2.1.5 and Python 2.3.4.

I have a list with digest_size_threshold set to 30kb and
digest_send_period set to NO that had a digest sent that was only 737
bytes in size when the daily senddigests was run.  Has anyone else
experienced something like this?  Is this a bug and is there a patch for
it?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] integrating namazu with mailman

[Sean]

 Hi

 I am using the info found here http://mail.python.org/pipermail/
 mailman-users/2004-June/037580.html as well as various similar stuff
 I found through google.  However, this link is my main info.

 I have namazu installed and followed the instructions found in the
 above link.

 When I try a search on my test list, I get a 500 Internal Server
 Error and the following line in my apache error log.

 [Tue May 24 12:46:42 2005] [error] [client XX.XX.XX.XX] Premature end
 of script headers: /web/host.com/mailman/cgi-bin/Admin-List/namazu.cgi

 It seems that the cgi is not being called correctly.  Here is what it
 is calling

 (from the access log)

 XX.XX.XX.XX - - [24/May/2005:12:46:42 -0600] GET /mailman/Admin-List/
 namazu.cgi?query=namazusubmit=Search%21idxname=Admin-
 Listmax=20result=normalsort=score HTTP/1.1 500 628


 --

 I can access the namazu command on the command line and it seems to
 work.

 Has anyone who has implemented this, or anyone else who has an idea,
 see what is wrong with the query and my namazu.cgi would not return
 correct stuff?

 Thanks
 Chad

Are you running Apache as your web server?  Here is what the apache docs
say about this:

  http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ-F.html#premature-script-headers

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Re: [Mailman-Users] invite hack

[Sean]

Thanks Mark, that fixed it.

Sean

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 snip
 
 It automatically skips any 'RE:'s in the subject so I didn't think the
 adding the subject_prefix would matter.  Where is the code that ingores
 the 'RE:'s in the subject?


 This is the problem. It doesn't actually skip 're:'s. If the first token
 after Subject: isn't 'confirm' it will look at the second token and
 that's as far as it goes.

 The code is in CommandRunner.py

 See the thread at
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Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only

[Sean]

 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:06:43 -0400 (EDT)
 From: kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only
 To: Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: mailman-users@python.org
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 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

  Those messages aren't approved -- they're held.


 ok, Brad. thanks. sure. they are held. held for approval. they are not
 approved. true.

 are they from subscribed members? some. most are not.

 but the setting says members_postings_only = 'yes' (ONLY!)

 ok.

 but there are about 60-70% messages that come from non members. they are
 held too. held for approval. or to be discarded. why?

 i don't know. they are not members. they should not be held. at all.

 in short the logic says: no, they should not even considered to be held
 for approval. they are sent to the list by non members (spammers). the
 list is restricted so that ONLY members can post. that means any post from
 anybody not on the list doesn't matter - it's not important. shouldn't be
 held for approval.

 what is not clear in the statement members_postings_only='yes'?
 'yes' or 'only'? i guess i'm hanging on only. wouldn't you?

 sorry  thanks...


IFIRC, you stated you were using Mailman 2.0 and that was a big complaint
from list admins on my Mailman server.  Upgrade to 2.1 and then you can
set the generic_nonmember_action to discard and eliminate all of the junk
from non-member address.

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[Mailman-Users] invite hack

[Sean]

Hi all,

I'm trying to customize the invitations that get sent out by adding the
subject_prefix to the subject line so it looks like:

Subject: LIST_subject_prefix confirm CONFIRM_STING.

I made this change to MailList.py:

sub_prefix = self.subject_prefix
subj = sub_prefix + ' confirm ' + cookie

The problem that I've encountered now is that when you reply to the
invitation and maintain the subject Mailman doesn't process it:

The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your
original message.


- Unprocessed:.

I'm at a loss as to what other code needs hacked to make this work.  I
found cmd_confirm.py but I don't think the message gets past
CommandRunner.py since it just gives the 'Unprocessed' error.  Can anyone
offer any direction here?

It automatically skips any 'RE:'s in the subject so I didn't think the
adding the subject_prefix would matter.  Where is the code that ingores
the 'RE:'s in the subject?

The reasoning behind the change is these days people just scan down the
subject field and delete anything they don't recognize, in an effort to
avoid wasting time on spam.  Adding the subject prefix would help because
there is nothing about the author or subject of the existing invitation to
make it stand out as personal or list-related.

Sure, VERP may add more personalization but that is not an option since my
server is running upwards of 700 lists.  The performance hit would be too
much.

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[Mailman-Users] OSError

[Sean]

Hi,

I started seeing this on one of my mailman servers:

Apr 13 12:02:48 2005 qrunner(62314): Traceback (most recent call last):
Apr 13 12:02:48 2005 qrunner(62314):   File /usr/mailman/bin/qrunner,
line 270, in ?
Apr 13 12:02:48 2005 qrunner(62314):   File /usr/mailman/bin/qrunner,
line 230, in main
Apr 13 12:02:48 2005 qrunner(62314):  qrunner.run()
Apr 13 12:02:48 2005 qrunner(62314):   File
/usr/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run
Apr 13 12:02:48 2005 qrunner(62314):  filecnt = self._oneloop()
Apr 13 12:02:48 2005 qrunner(62314):   File
/usr/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 94, in _oneloop
Apr 13 12:02:48 2005 qrunner(62314):  files =
self._switchboard.files()
Apr 13 12:02:48 2005 qrunner(62314):   File
/usr/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 158, in files
Apr 13 12:02:48 2005 qrunner(62314):  for f in
os.listdir(self.__whichq):
Apr 13 12:02:48 2005 qrunner(62314): OSError :  [Errno 23] Too many open
files in system: '/usr/mailman/qfiles/out'

This is on a FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE box with mailman 2.1.5.  When I ran pstat
-T the number for files open was around 5000 and the default limit on the
server is 8232.   So its not hitting that limit.   Any ideas why
Switchboard.py is complaining about this?

It causes the OutgoingRunner to die off.  I've got a similar setup on a
separate FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE box but never get this error there.  The only
difference is that there are 2 slices of OutgoingRunner on the box giving
the error.

Thanks for any input,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] probe message

[Sean]

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 and postfix 2.0.15.  I noticed some strange
  bounce addresses in the mail logs:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Is this how probe messages sent the reply-to/from header to?

 kind of,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 is the VERP return-path used...
 I.e. the Variable Envelope Return Path.

 This is the ''return path'' used on the ENVELOPE, i.e. the
   address used in MAIL FROM: SMTP command.
 This is the address to which bounces are delivered...

 Hence, probes use such 'silly' Envelope FROM: addresses with
   a ''random'' hex. code whatnot in the address to have a reliable
   way of checking that address really does bounce.

Thanks, thats what I thought but wanted confirmation.


 The snag is, your MTA/alias-files/etc MAY not be delivering mail
   with the listname-bounces+45894735478574893 code piped to mailman
   like it's supposed to unless configured correctly.
 Unless this is working, this will break 'automatic disabling and
   unsubscribing' of users with broken/bouncing email addresses.

 I don't know postfix

Yeah, the snag was that Postfix wasn't configured to handle these.  At
some point the 'recipient_delimiter = +' parameter got removed from the
main.cf file.  I've added it back in some these should be processed
correctly now.

Sean

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Re: [Mailman-Users] probe message

[sean]

  I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 and postfix 2.0.15.  I noticed some strange
  bounce addresses in the mail logs:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Is this how probe messages sent the reply-to/from header to?

 kind of,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 is the VERP return-path used...
 I.e. the Variable Envelope Return Path.

 This is the ''return path'' used on the ENVELOPE, i.e. the
   address used in MAIL FROM: SMTP command.
 This is the address to which bounces are delivered...

 Hence, probes use such 'silly' Envelope FROM: addresses with
   a ''random'' hex. code whatnot in the address to have a reliable
   way of checking that address really does bounce.

Not sure if this is the place to mention this but the README.POSTFIX file
should be updated since the probe messages depend on this feature as well:

In order to support Mailman's optional VERP delivery, you will
want to disable luser_relay (the default) and you will want to set
recipient_delimiter for extended address semantics.  You should
comment out any luser_relay value in your main.cf and just go with
the defaults.  Also, add this to your main.cf file:

recipient_delimiter = +

VERP was not enabled in my installation so I paid no attention to this
guideline.

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[Mailman-Users] probe message

[Sean]

I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 and postfix 2.0.15.  I noticed some strange
bounce addresses in the mail logs:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is this how probe messages sent the reply-to/from header to?

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[Mailman-Users] digest delivery

[Sean]

A list on one of the servers I admin is experiencing strange digest
delivery behavior.  digest_send_periodic is set to yes but the digest are
not being sent until the digest_size_threshhold is being reached.
digest_size_threshhold is set to 500Kb so it takes a few days to reach
that.  Any suggestions on what to look at here?

MM is 2.1.5, python is 2.3.4

No other lists have reported problems with digest delivery.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] python errors executing scripts

[Sean]

 Mark Panahi wrote:

 Well, I tried 'check_db -a -v' and it complains that there are no
 config.pck and config.pck.last files for each list. The thing is, I
 had moved the lists and archive directories from an older installation
 (we had upgraded everything in our server). Seems like these pck files
 are something recent? Anyway to create these? Hmmm, I suppose we
 didn't upgrade properly.

 So presumably you have config.db and config.db.last files instead. This
 change occurred with 2.0.x to 2.1.x.

 Also, for any list whose configuration has been locked, loaded, saved
 and unlocked, there should be a config.pck because 2.1.x versions
 always save the list as a pickle, not a marshall.

 If you upgrade Mailman on an existing installation, the actual
 configuration data will normally be updated by bin/update which will
 be run by make install

 In your case, where you moved the config files from another, older
 installation, I think you may need to run bin/update manually,
 although there are reports that seem to indicate this isn't necessary.
 If you do run it, you will probably need the -f option to make it do
 anything, and you should back up everything first.

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Yes it is possible to import old version config.db files to a newer
version using config.pck without running bin/update.  A simple http
request to the list on the new installation will generate the config.pck
files.

It may be necessary then to update the host_name and web_page_url option
after such a move depending your set up.

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[Mailman-Users] sequence number patch

[Reilly Sean-A6500C]

Hi
 
 I was trying to get the patch that adds 
 sequence numbers to the subject prefix
 with mailman2.1.5
 
 Do you have a version/patch for this realsease.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailing list just stopped working

[Sean]

 We have version 2.1.5 running off our server and have been using it for
 over a year and it has worked great. All of a sudden - and we haven't
 touched a thing server-side, we no longer are able to write to our
 mailing list. Nothing appears in the archive, the message is definitely
 sent, but the mailing list never seems to receive it.

 Any ideas?

Are the qrunners still running?

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[Mailman-Users] probe messages

[Sean]

Hi,

Is there any way to turn off probe messages being sent but still have
bounce processing on?

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[Mailman-Users] global change of forward_auto_discards using withlist

[Sean]

I would like to change all mly 500+ lists so that the
forward_auto_discards is set to 'No'. I assume that the best way to do
this is utilizing the 'withlist' utility. I have only used this utility
to change the URL for my lists.

Has anyone done this and could you give me some tips?

--
Christopher Adams

Run this using withlist with the -a option so it runs it on all 500+ of
your lists:

# more nonmember_discard.py
from Mailman import mm_cfg

def nonmember_discard(m):
m.forward_auto_discards = False

m.Save()
m.Unlock()

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem moving 2.0 list to 2.1.5 [SOLVED]

[Sean]

Mark Sapiro wrote:

 bin/update converts data files, qfiles, list data, etc. as necessary to
 bring them from an older format to that of the current Mailman. If you
 have an installation and you upgrade the Mailman software, the update
 is run automatically as part of the upgrade. However, if you move an
 existing list that is in an old format to an already installed newer
 Mailman version (which is what I thought you did, but maybe not), I
 think you need to run bin/update to update the list files.

 If you moved to the new server and then upgraded to 2.1.5, then you
 don't need to run bin/update separately. If you installed 2.1.5 on the
 new server and then moved your lists from the old server, I think you
 do need to run bin/update.

Running bin/update is not necessary if you only use the config.db file to
move the list from Mailman 2.0.  I've moved lots of lists over from
Mailman 2.0 to Mailman 2.1 and never ran update.

After creating the list on the 2.1 server I put the old config.db file in
the list directory, rename the config.pck to config.pck.bak, and then
access the list via the web interface.  Mailman converts the config.db
file to a config.pck file.  Of course the web_page_url needs updated to
the new server.

I've never encountered any problems moving this in this manner.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman gets stuck, stops sending messages

[Sean]

I still want to solve the problem, but meanwhile, would there be
   any negative effect to adding an hourly cron job to restart
   mailmanctl?  Or perhaps to run a script to check that
   /var/lib/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid is a valid process ID, else
   restart mailmanctl?

   The latter might be a good idea, but I think the former could be a bad 
 one.

I'm curiuos as to why you feel restarting the mailmanctl every few hours
is bad?  Running a cron to check for master-qrunner.pid won't catch an
individual qrunner that dies out.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] erasing archived message

[Sean]

 FreeBSD-4.9
 mailman-2.1.5


 can somebody please send me to a link or tutorial that shows how to
 remove a message from the archives please?

 cheers,

 Noah

I'm not aware of link or tutorial for this.  To remove the a message from
the archives you need shell access to the server running mailman and
access the ~mailman/bin commands.

Edit the mbox file for the list to remove the message and run
~mailman/bin/arch to rebuild the archive.  Run arch with the --wipe option
to remove the original archive before rebuilding.

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[Mailman-Users] ValueError: unpack list of wrong size

[Sean]

Hi,

A list user posts started being shunted with the following showing up in
the error log:

Oct 27 08:14:28 2004 (5860) SHUNTING:
1098822989.626565+42a5b473e4384099ea19ea0a27cae64d4d65c0b2
Oct 27 08:14:29 2004 (5860) Uncaught runner exception: unpack list of
wrong size
Oct 27 08:14:29 2004 (5860) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 111, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 167, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in
_dispose
more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in
_dopipeline
sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 91, in process
send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 132, in
send_digests
send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py, line 306, in send_
msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 265, in process
url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir)
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py, line 359, in
save_attachment
fnext = os.path.splitext(msg.get_filename(''))[1]
  File /usr/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py, line 725, in
get_filename
filename = self.get_param('filename', missing, 'content-disposition')
  File /usr/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py, line 608, in get_param
for k, v in self._get_params_preserve(failobj, header):
  File /usr/mailman/pythonlib/email/Message.py, line 555, in
_get_params_preserve
params = Utils.decode_params(params)
  File /usr/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py, line 337, in decode_params
charset, language, value = decode_rfc2231(EMPTYSTRING.join(value))
  File /usr/mailman/pythonlib/email/Utils.py, line 284, in
decode_rfc2231
charset, language, s = parts
ValueError: unpack list of wrong size

I've search through the archives and found other posts regarding this
error but no resolution was found.  They were from some time ago so I'm
hoping someone may be able to provide some insight into this now.

We're running Mailman 2.1.5 on FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE with python2.3 and
postfix 1.1.11

Any assistance will be appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] OutgoingRunner Failing

[Sean]

 Hi all,

 I have the OutgoingRunner process failing quite regularly, and this has
 resulted in a build up of mail in the qfiles/out directory.  How do I
 find out what is going on in this process for it to be failing like
 this?

I experienced the same problem running Mailman 2.1.5 on a FreeBSD 4.6 box.
I couldn't find anything telling in the logs.  I upped the number of times
that the qrunner would restart from 10 to 50.  Still had the problem
occur.  Now I have a cron job restart mailman every 4 hours.   Nothing
backs up in the outgoing directory now and I haven't notice any residual
problems from this change.

This doesn't get to the source of the problem though. :(  I figured it
might be something with the content of the messages but with hundreds of
lists running on 4 different servers it isn't something easily tracked
down.  Additionally no other mailman users complained about it until now.

Sean

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Re: [Mailman-Users] OutgoingRunner Failing (fwd)

[sean]

Oh, I forgot to mention.  I'm not running multiple slices so Greenburg's
patch doesn't apply.

Sean



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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:03:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] OutgoingRunner Failing


 Hi all,

 I have the OutgoingRunner process failing quite regularly, and this has
 resulted in a build up of mail in the qfiles/out directory.  How do I
 find out what is going on in this process for it to be failing like
 this?

I experienced the same problem running Mailman 2.1.5 on a FreeBSD 4.6 box.
I couldn't find anything telling in the logs.  I upped the number of times
that the qrunner would restart from 10 to 50.  Still had the problem
occur.  Now I have a cron job restart mailman every 4 hours.   Nothing
backs up in the outgoing directory now and I haven't notice any residual
problems from this change.

This doesn't get to the source of the problem though. :(  I figured it
might be something with the content of the messages but with hundreds of
lists running on 4 different servers it isn't something easily tracked
down.  Additionally no other mailman users complained about it until now.

Sean

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[Mailman-Users] mass subscribe with real names

[Sean R. Kirkpatrick]

I've poked around the docs and google and haven't seen this documented - 
did I miss it?

I have a sizeable list of folks that need to be added to a new list. I'd 
like to be able to mass subscribe them by uploading a file and include 
their real names at the same time. Is this possible? I tried something like

   [EMAIL PROTECTED],Frank Smith
but that didn't work.
TIA
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[Mailman-Users] danish language support

[Sean]

Anybody know what is causing this error?

Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5

We're sorry, we hit a bug!

If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of
this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what
happened. Thanks!
Traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
main()
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py, line 105, in main
loginpage(mlist, doc, None, language)
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py, line 813, in loginpage
table.AddRow([_(In order to change your membership option, you must
  File /usr/mailman/Mailman/i18n.py, line 89, in _
return tns % dict
ValueError: unsupported format character 'p' (0x70) at index 105


I'm running Mailman 2.1.5 on FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE with danish language set
as the preferred but English is also supported..  I checked the error logs
and nothing showed up specific to this error.

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[Mailman-Users] japanese digests

[Sean]

Hi,

I'm Running Mailman 2.1.3 on a FreeBSD 4.6 box with postfix 2.0.15.  One
list has multiple languages enabled.  Japanese text is with regular posts
however it is showing up garbled in digests:

Today's Topics:

   1. ??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 13:25:42 +0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [crnlist] ???
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP

^[$B$3$l$O%F%9%H$G$9!#^[(B

Has anyone else experienced this problem and/or know of a fix?  I searched
the archives but didn't find anything describing the same problem.

Sean

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[Mailman-Users] Moving lists to another host

[Sean]

 I am in the process of moving Mailman lists to another host.

 Firstly, I created the new mailing list and import existing
 configurations, archives and members into the mailing list on the new
 host, but I lost members options.

 Is there a simple method in order to transfer the members options beyond
 to manual copy?

If you can get the config.pck file from your old host you can preserve the
member options at the new host.  Some manual changes by the new host will
need to be made regarding the list URLs and hostnames.

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[Mailman-Users] Sudden mass of unsubscribe notices?

[Sean Robertson]

An email was sent out through our email list two days ago, and just now
I got 33 unsubscribe notices.  The notices offer no explanation of
whether the users did it, an admin did it, or it was some kind of
automatic process.  Is there any way to find out?  What could cause it
to suddenly delete 33 subscriptions all at exactly the same time two
days after the last newsletter went out?  Needless to say, this is a
rather critical issue.




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[Mailman-Users] 500+ list archive disk space usage

[Sean]

 Anyone have a server with 500+ lists that are at least semi active that
 can give me the amount of space used for the archives and how many years
 the archives date back to.

 Thanks

I've got one with 658 lists, most I'd say are active.  The archives are
taking up 7.8GB of space.  The server has been running lists for 2.5
years.

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[Mailman-Users] Problem accessing membership management

[Sean]

While running 2.1.4 I get the following when trying to access the
Membership Management module from the admin page. This only happens on
one list on a server with ~400 lists.

ideas?
Con Wieland

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 87, in run_main
 main()
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 198, in main
 show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata)
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 501, in
show_results
 form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form))
   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 873, in
membership_options
 all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()]
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xa0 in position
16: ordinal not in range(128)

Sounds like there are addresses subscribed with non-ascii characters.  Run
~mailman/bin/list_members -i to get a list of invalid addresses.  Also
running ~mailman/bin/find_member -l listname [EMAIL PROTECTED]  badaddresses
will turn up some bad addresses.  The regular expressions([EMAIL PROTECTED])
may need to be tweaked a little.

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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

[Sean Carnahan]

Is there a way to mass remove members that are flagged as excessive bounces?


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[Mailman-Users] Footers

[Sean Carnahan]

Hello,

I am sure this has already been addressed but I couldn't seem to get it
sorted out form the archives.

What I need is a footer or my choosing to be on every email that goes out.
I typed in what I wanted in the digest and non digest admin area,
But when I send out emails, the footer is not there 

How can I make a footer text that will be added to every email that goes
out?


Thanks!

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[Mailman-Users] List security

[Sean]

Hi,

I'm running a list on Mailman 2.1.3 and I am looking to secure my list as
much as possible.  I saw this in FAQ 3.11
(http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp):

  A more secure alternative is for your approved posters to add an
  Approved header to their postings as a header, or as the first line of
  the post).

I'd like to implement this but I'm uncertain to go about it.  I'm pretty
certain the content filtering options are where the test for the Approved
header should go.  My question is how can the header be added to the
posting?  Any insight or tips as to how this can be accomplished will be
appreciated.

Thanks,
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[Mailman-Users] Administrate list via HTML?

[Sean Robertson]

I asked this question earlier, but I don't think I ever got a reply
(can't seem to find it at any rate).  The list I administrate is located
on another server, which I do not have SSH access to.  The problem,
however, is that I need some way to administer the list that can be
executed via a PHP script.  Is there any kind of email interface to
MailMan's admin functions?  I can very easily generate an email with
commands in it (already doing that to subscribe users), but I need
access to some admin functions as well.  Am I just SOL?

This is becoming a more urgent matter with each passing day, so any
assistance you could provide would be _greatly_ appreciated.  Thanks.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrate list via HTML?

[Sean Robertson]

Tried that already, and all I get is the generic user functions; no
admin functions at all.


- Original Message - 
From: Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sean Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrate list via HTML?


 At 4:51 PM -0400 2004/05/03, Sean Robertson wrote:

   Is there any kind of email interface to
   MailMan's admin functions?

 There is an e-mail interface, some of which is highlighted by the
 List- headers that Mailman puts on outgoing messages.  If you send
 the word help to the listname-request address, you should get back
 a document that describes everything.

   I can very easily generate an email
with
   commands in it (already doing that to subscribe users), but I need
   access to some admin functions as well.  Am I just SOL?

 Beyond the above, I'm not aware of any other e-mail or PHP interface.

   This is becoming a more urgent matter with each passing day, so any
   assistance you could provide would be _greatly_ appreciated.
Thanks.

 I didn't say anything earlier because I didn't have much useful to
say.

 -- 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrate list via HTML?

[Sean Robertson]

I do have that page, the problem is I don't know how to send the password to
it.  If you just pull that page up in a browser, you get a password page
first.

I will look and see what I can find on sourceforge, though.  Thanks.



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 What version are you using?  There are several different HTML pages to
manage Mailman. For instance, this list management info is at:
http://mail.python.org/mailman/admin/mailman-users.  Yours should be in a
similar place.

 Look at the List- headrers for your own list and then select the admin
page listed at the bottom of the Listinfo page.

 Oh, there is a php script -but the new interface has pretty much outdated
it.  If you cannot update your Mailman - the script is available at
Sourceforge.net - check the Mailman section.


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 At 4:51 PM -0400 2004/05/03, Sean Robertson wrote:
 
   Is there any kind of email interface to
   MailMan's admin functions?
 
  There is an e-mail interface, some of which is highlighted by the
 List- headers that Mailman puts on outgoing messages.  If you send
 the word help to the listname-request address, you should get back
 a document that describes everything.
 
   I can very easily generate an email with
   commands in it (already doing that to subscribe users), but I need
   access to some admin functions as well.  Am I just SOL?
 
  Beyond the above, I'm not aware of any other e-mail or PHP interface.
 
   This is becoming a more urgent matter with each passing day, so any
   assistance you could provide would be _greatly_ appreciated.  Thanks.
 
  I didn't say anything earlier because I didn't have much useful to say.
 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrate list via HTML?

[Sean Robertson]

I need to be able to send the commands from a PHP script.  There is no
way that I know of to handle the login and execute commends on the HTML
pages from a PHP script.


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What about the mailman HTML interface that comes with? They have it
disabled?

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I asked this question earlier, but I don't think I ever got a reply
(can't seem to find it at any rate).  The list I administrate is located
on another server, which I do not have SSH access to.  The problem,
however, is that I need some way to administer the list that can be
executed via a PHP script.  Is there any kind of email interface to
MailMan's admin functions?  I can very easily generate an email with
commands in it (already doing that to subscribe users), but I need
access to some admin functions as well.  Am I just SOL?

This is becoming a more urgent matter with each passing day, so any
assistance you could provide would be _greatly_ appreciated.  Thanks.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Access subscription list via PHP?

[Sean Robertson]

Looks like the host is keeping mailman on a seperate server.  Is there
any way to still do it, or am I stuck?

What I'm doing right now is generating an email in PHP using the
subscribers address for the from line, so that the confirmation goes to
them.  Is there any way I can do this using some kind of admin command
via email instead, so they don't get the confirmation or anything saying
they're already subscribed if that happens to be the case?



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 Sean Robertson said:
  I have a PHP form set up that I'd like to be able to use to
subscribe
  people
  to the mailing list.  The problem is tha they might already be
signed
 up
  to
  the list, so just sending an email to the listserve is not a very
 clean
  solution.  Is there any way to access the memberlist via PHP and
find
 out
  if
  someone has already signed up or not so it doesn't try to do it
again
 if
  they already have?
 
 

 call list_members and capture the output.


 $members = `/usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members mylist`;
 // find the member...



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[Mailman-Users] Access subscription list via PHP?

[Sean Robertson]

I have a PHP form set up that I'd like to be able to use to subscribe people
to the mailing list.  The problem is tha they might already be signed up to
the list, so just sending an email to the listserve is not a very clean
solution.  Is there any way to access the memberlist via PHP and find out if
someone has already signed up or not so it doesn't try to do it again if
they already have?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] HIPAA compliant?

[Sean Collen]

A mailing list would not be HIPPA compliant. Then again it may be, but  
it depends highly on the reasoning and use of the list.

Sean Collen
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Anyone on the list involved with HIPAA, in healthcare records?

I am a chiropractor and am wondering about using a mailing list among  
patients, not wanting to create any problems or HIPAA violations.

Any pitfalls to watch out for?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HIPAA compliant?

[Sean Collen]

Yes, that is fine, I run a list like that now for the National Kidney  
Foundation. A place for an administrator to send out health info, and a  
place for everyone to have discussions on different issues and such.

We have not had any issues with HIPPA up to now, and many of our  
members/clients have already been audited by those HIPPA compliancy  
groups.

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Sean:



A mailing list would not be HIPPA compliant. Then again it may be,  
but  it depends highly on the reasoning and use of the list.
Here's my high reasoning, why it would not. If I keep it a moderated  
list, and the list members' names are not published to the list, i.e.,  
on member on the list can't really find out the identity of any other  
list member, then I would think the privacy issue is covered.

As for use of the list, my use of it would be to disseminate health  
information to my patients. A side purpose would be to generate  
discussion about healthcare, and hopefully encourage others on the  
list to reply to and comment on the postings of some other members. I  
would NOT be including individual member addresses on the list for  
public distribution, just what people had written. If one user wanted  
to contact another it would be solely at the discretion of the  
another user

With this clarification, would it seem more 'compliant'? I read about  
MD's conducting group classes to instruct several patients at one  
time. I don't read anywhere about each patient being blindfolded, or  
being instructed to never utter their own names outloud in such  
sessions.

?

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Anyone on the list involved with HIPAA, in healthcare records?

I am a chiropractor and am wondering about using a mailing list  
among  patients, not wanting to create any problems or HIPAA  
violations.

Any pitfalls to watch out for?

Dr. Jones

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[Mailman-Users] Attachment Issues

[Sean Collen]

Hi,
	I have been using Mailman for quite a while now. I am currently  
running version 2.1.4. I have checked the mailing lists and FAQS, and I  
am unable to find anyone with the issue I am having, less I am  
searching incorrectly.

	The issue I am having is that messages content are getting posted to  
the archives as attachments. The contact getting scrubbed is plain  
text. I have narrowed down one of the causes but cannot find a fix,  
explained below. Any help would be appreciated.

I have some cgi scripts on an internal apache server that we use for  
logging. IE, a tech can log into a web page, get technical info for  
some issues, and post a message to a generic list based on the type of  
issue - video conferencing , servers, web servers, etc. The script just  
opens a pipe to mail, example:

		open X, |/bin/mail -t $LISTSERV;

Anything sent to the list, even using mail on the command line, the  
message gets stripped off as a non-text message.

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[Mailman-Users] MAILMAN HOSTING pt 2

[Sean Carnahan]

My List is personal list, not for profit,
Any places I can host a NEWSLETTER mailman list that you all could suggest?

The lists are one for 5,000 and another of around 19,000 people?

My present hosting company only allows 1,000 email per hour.


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[Mailman-Users] Places I can use mailman

[Sean Carnahan]

Are there any recommended hosting places I can use mailman for a lists of
one for 5,000 and another of around 19,000 people?

My present hosting company only allows 1,000 email per hour.

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[Mailman-Users] where are my emails going?

[sean]

Hi Everyone.
Hope someone can help me out.
When I send email to my list, it usually appears in the tend to pending
moderator requests, so I authorise it and off it goes to everyone on
the list.
The last 3 that I have sent have never appeared for authorisation,
they've not gone out to list members and they haven't been returned to
me so I don't know where they're going, the email address is correct. 
Any suggestions?



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[Mailman-Users] RE: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 2, Issue 17

[sean]

Sorry, I don't want list submissions, 'm trying to find someone who call
tell me why my mailman list has stopped working

Sean Flynn
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[Mailman-Users] help

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Sorry, I don't want list submissions, 'm trying to find someone who call
tell me why my mailman list has stopped working

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