Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for admin lists
Do I need to have separate installations for something like this? I really appreciate any ideas. I am using 2.0.8 right now. Hello, I have several administrators. I want them only to see the lists they are responsible for. Is this possible somehow? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for adminlists
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 09:32, Bob Weissman wrote: At 11:59 PM 5/20/02, you wrote: Do I need to have separate installations for something like this? I really appreciate any ideas. I am using 2.0.8 right now. I have several administrators. I want them only to see the lists they are responsible for. Is this possible somehow? There is no feature for this. Do you have enough privileges on your machine to create virtual hosts? If so, you can create one vhost for each administrator and they'll see only their own lists. - Bob Yes, I have complete control over my machine. So I can simply have a separate installation for each v-host basically? /home/mailman/install1 /home/mailman/install2 /home/mailman/install3 Like this ^ ? If that is the case, how can I move an existing installation to a different directory? -- Terry Davis http://approbation.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for adminlists
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 11:48, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Terry Davis wrote: Yes, I have complete control over my machine. So I can simply have a separate installation for each v-host basically? /home/mailman/install1 /home/mailman/install2 /home/mailman/install3 Yes. I have this setup on my server. If that is the case, how can I move an existing installation to a different directory? Yes, as long as you a) recompile it for that directory, and b) run ~mailman/vhost/bin/move_list list afterwards. Read 'move_list -h' for more information. Thank you for your reply. Where can I read up on how to 'recompile' for that directory? What config files much I change, etc. Thank you!! -- Terry Davis http://approbation.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for adminlists
Great! One last question... You are saying 'vhost'. Do I have to have an explicit vhost in apache or can there be one vhost pointing to the root dir '/home/mailman' ? On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 11:55, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Terry Davis wrote: Thank you for your reply. Where can I read up on how to 'recompile' for that directory? What config files much I change, etc. Add a prefix to your configure line: --prefix=/home/mailman/vhost When that's done, recompile, and reinstall. Do this for each individual vhost. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Terry Davis http://approbation.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for adminlists
Nice hack
I indeed like this better. In that time I was able to switch things
over and everything works great!
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 12:20, Bob Weissman wrote:
At 09:55 AM 5/21/02, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
Terry Davis wrote:
Thank you for your reply. Where can I read up on how to 'recompile' for
that directory? What config files much I change, etc.
When that's done, recompile, and reinstall. Do this for each individual vhost.
You don't need to do this. One installation of Mailman is sufficient for multiple
vhosts. I have this running just fine on my site. You have to be willing to patch
Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, but this is much cleaner than having multiple copies of Mailman.
1. Create your virtual hosts, if you haven't already. Make sure your vhosts are
pointing to Mailman for cgi, icons, and pipermail. For Apache, this is (depending on
where ~mailman lives):
ScriptAlias /mailman /usr/home/mailman/cgi-bin
Directory /usr/home/mailman/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
Alias /icons /usr/home/mailman/icons
Alias /pipermail /usr/home/mailman/archives/private
This goes inside your VirtualHost sections of vhosts.conf for each vhost.
2. In your Mailman/mm_config.py file, make sure that VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW is set to
1. (I use 2, which is nonstandard, to get an exact vhost match rather than the
standard substring match. See patch below. If you have vhost names which are
substrings of each other, you will need to use 2 and you will also need to change
listinfo.py similarly to admin.py.)
3. Apply the patch below to admin.py. This copies some vhost-discrimination code
from listinfo.py to admin.py. It works for 2.0.9 and above (I haven't tried it on
older versions.)
4. For each list, change the web_page_url to point to the virtual host. This is the
bottom-most parameter on the main admin page for each list. You may need to wait some
time for the DNS records of the new vhosts to propagate before people can access the
pages.
- Bob
Patch follows
*** admin.py.ORIG Thu May 9 12:24:58 2002
--- admin.pyThu May 9 12:32:06 2002
***
*** 25,30
--- 25,31
import types
import rfc822
import signal
+ from urlparse import urlparse
from Mailman import Utils
from Mailman import MailList
***
*** 200,205
--- 201,229
for n in names:
l = MailList.MailList(n, lock=0)
if l.advertised:
+ # Following cloned from listinfo.py - BW 5/9/02
+ # XXX We need a portable way to determine the host by which we are being
+ # visited! An absolute URL would do...
+ http_host = os.environ.get('HTTP_HOST', os.environ.get('SERVER_NAME'))
+ port = os.environ.get('SERVER_PORT')
+ # strip off the port if there is one
+ if port and http_host[-len(port)-1:] == ':'+port:
+ http_host = http_host[:-len(port)-1]
+ if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW:
+ if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW == 2: # Want an exact match
+ # extract the host part of the url
+ host_part = urlparse(l.web_page_url)[1]
+ # remove the port, if any
+ host_part = string.split(host_part, :)[0]
+ if http_host and host_part != http_host:
+ # List is for different vhost - skip it.
+ continue
+ else: # Want a simple containment match
+ if http_host and \
+ string.find(http_host, l.web_page_url) == -1 and \
+ string.find(l.web_page_url, http_host) == -1:
+ # List is for different identity of this host - skip it.
+ continue
advertised.append(l)
if error:
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Re: Rel: [Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for adminlists
Well, I have run into a problem with this.
When I visit the admin page for any list I get 'inconsistent dedent' In
apache's logs.
Any ideas?
THank you!
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 12:20, Bob Weissman wrote:
At 09:55 AM 5/21/02, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
Terry Davis wrote:
Thank you for your reply. Where can I read up on how to 'recompile' for
that directory? What config files much I change, etc.
When that's done, recompile, and reinstall. Do this for each individual vhost.
You don't need to do this. One installation of Mailman is sufficient for multiple
vhosts. I have this running just fine on my site. You have to be willing to patch
Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, but this is much cleaner than having multiple copies of Mailman.
1. Create your virtual hosts, if you haven't already. Make sure your vhosts are
pointing to Mailman for cgi, icons, and pipermail. For Apache, this is (depending on
where ~mailman lives):
ScriptAlias /mailman /usr/home/mailman/cgi-bin
Directory /usr/home/mailman/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
Alias /icons /usr/home/mailman/icons
Alias /pipermail /usr/home/mailman/archives/private
This goes inside your VirtualHost sections of vhosts.conf for each vhost.
2. In your Mailman/mm_config.py file, make sure that VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW is set to
1. (I use 2, which is nonstandard, to get an exact vhost match rather than the
standard substring match. See patch below. If you have vhost names which are
substrings of each other, you will need to use 2 and you will also need to change
listinfo.py similarly to admin.py.)
3. Apply the patch below to admin.py. This copies some vhost-discrimination code
from listinfo.py to admin.py. It works for 2.0.9 and above (I haven't tried it on
older versions.)
4. For each list, change the web_page_url to point to the virtual host. This is the
bottom-most parameter on the main admin page for each list. You may need to wait some
time for the DNS records of the new vhosts to propagate before people can access the
pages.
- Bob
Patch follows
*** admin.py.ORIG Thu May 9 12:24:58 2002
--- admin.pyThu May 9 12:32:06 2002
***
*** 25,30
--- 25,31
import types
import rfc822
import signal
+ from urlparse import urlparse
from Mailman import Utils
from Mailman import MailList
***
*** 200,205
--- 201,229
for n in names:
l = MailList.MailList(n, lock=0)
if l.advertised:
+ # Following cloned from listinfo.py - BW 5/9/02
+ # XXX We need a portable way to determine the host by which we are being
+ # visited! An absolute URL would do...
+ http_host = os.environ.get('HTTP_HOST', os.environ.get('SERVER_NAME'))
+ port = os.environ.get('SERVER_PORT')
+ # strip off the port if there is one
+ if port and http_host[-len(port)-1:] == ':'+port:
+ http_host = http_host[:-len(port)-1]
+ if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW:
+ if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW == 2: # Want an exact match
+ # extract the host part of the url
+ host_part = urlparse(l.web_page_url)[1]
+ # remove the port, if any
+ host_part = string.split(host_part, :)[0]
+ if http_host and host_part != http_host:
+ # List is for different vhost - skip it.
+ continue
+ else: # Want a simple containment match
+ if http_host and \
+ string.find(http_host, l.web_page_url) == -1 and \
+ string.find(l.web_page_url, http_host) == -1:
+ # List is for different identity of this host - skip it.
+ continue
advertised.append(l)
if error:
--
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[Mailman-Users] feature - multiple web views for admin lists
Hello, I have several administrators. I want them only to see the lists they are responsible for. Is this possible somehow? thank you! -- Terry Davis http://approbation.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] send digest command
Is it possible to force a digest somehow? Like with a command either sent over email or directly out of cron on the box? -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] send digest command
Is it possible to force a digest somehow? Like with a command either sent over email or directly out of cron on the box? -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] send digest command
Thank you and excuse me for my laziness. :( This suggests all lists. Can this be done on a per list or per user basis? Thank you once again! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. Quoting Michael Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Always helps to help oneself and do a bit of reading. http://www.list.org/admins.html Cron scripts Mailman comes with a number of scripts that are typically only run by cron. However, it is generally okay for the site administrator to run these scripts manually, say to force a sending of accumulated digests, or to mail out member passwords, etc. You generally run these by invoking the Python executable on them, like so: % cd /home/mailman % python -S cron/senddigests The -S option is an optimization and (minor) security recommendation; it inhibits Python's implicit import site on initialization. Not all of these scripts support the --help option. Here is a brief description of what the cron scripts do: snip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry Davis Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] send digest command Is it possible to force a digest somehow? Like with a command either sent over email or directly out of cron on the box? -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] implicit destination - help
For compatibility reasons, I created virtuser entries for all of my lists. There are some old email addresses that people use to use for the list functions. For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] has a virtuser of [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will require approval. What can I do to get around the approval? Thank you -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] create list via web
Excuse me if this is obvious. Is there a way to create/delete a list via a webpage? I am not seeing these options. Thank you -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync
Hello, I am having difficulty keeping my news server and lists in sync. When a message is posted the the list, mailman updates the newsgroup just fine. However, if a post is made to the newsgroup, the list is not updated. There is an option in the admin pages of mailman that says this should happen for me: Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list? What am I doing wrong here? Thank you all for any help! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync
Jon Carnes wrote: Since it is posting to the News server, the News server information must be correct. - What version of Mailman are you using? - Look in the log files ~mailman/logs/.. and tell us if you see any errors or warnings Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: Terry Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:42 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync Hello, I am having difficulty keeping my news server and lists in sync. When a message is posted the the list, mailman updates the newsgroup just fine. However, if a post is made to the newsgroup, the list is not updated. There is an option in the admin pages of mailman that says this should happen for me: Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list? What am I doing wrong here? Thank you all for any help! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Thank you for your reply! I am using version 2.0.7. The error log shows nothing. The usenet log shows this every 5 minutes: Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list test Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test watermark: 7 Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list customers-ups Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups watermark: 3 However, there are new posts in the test newsgroup that did not get put on the test list. I have the information in mailman setup correctly, just verified. It may be working intermittently because the customers.ups group had a few posts that made it to the customers-ups list. I am not certain as to why that one worked however. It also seems as if it took a while for them to appear on the list as well. I hope this helps. Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp / mailman sync
Henrik Lewander wrote: Thank you for your reply! I am using version 2.0.7. The error log shows nothing. The usenet log shows this every 5 minutes: Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list test Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) test watermark: 7 Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups: [1..3] Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) nothing new for list customers-ups Jan 14 14:50:01 2002 (2264) customers-ups watermark: 3 However, there are new posts in the test newsgroup that did not get put on the test list. I have the information in mailman setup correctly, just verified. It may be working intermittently because the customers.ups group had a few posts that made it to the customers-ups list. I am not certain as to why that one worked however. It also seems as if it took a while for them to appear on the list as well. I hope this helps. Thank you! Go to your webconfiguration and and say yes to Should Mailman perform a catchup on the newsgroup? under Mail-News and News-Mail gateways for test. That should reset your watermark for the list. Regards Henrik -- ( http://henrik.lewander.com ][ Husaberg FE 400 ) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ][ Aprilia RS 250 c[] Join the Aprilia RS webring at http://henrik.lewander.com/mc/aprilia/ring I get how that works now, thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] a few questions
are you upgrading your mailman or is it a new install ? Justin Zygmont wrote: when I get to the 'make install' step everythink looks fine except for this last part: Upgrading from version 0x0 to 0x20008f0 no lists == nothing to do, exiting Please let me know if this is still ok, or I have midded something. I cannot get meail man to work and i've tried several times. I just want to verify this to make sure i'm getting it right, --with-mail-gid should be the GID of 'DefaultUser' in /etc/sendmail.cf? the DefaultUser is 'mail' and it's GID is 12 thanks.. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe?
Anyone have an answer for me here? Here is my original question: I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without a password. How can I setup a list this way? Michael Johnson (firewing) wrote: If nothing else (security concerns aside), it'll alleviate confusion on subscribers' part who often get frustrated when they don't realize (or read the message they are sent or the information pages) that to unsub they need their password. At 04:44 PM 1/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without a password. I understand this can be dangerous but this is a controlled list and my users are going to be sub-par as far as intelligence goes. I notice that when I do a mass subscribe, it auto-generates a password for every user, if I could make that blank somehow, that would rock. But would the password being blank mean there is no password? Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe?
Hrm, ya and you cant even specify a blank password when subscribing, that makes things harder. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unfortunately, i don't have an answer to that one yet...i'm looking though...and trying to do something similar. Most of the users on my list fall into the computer illiterate category too... Ron -Original Message- From: tdavis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:12 PM To: mailman-users Cc: tdavis Subject: FW: Re: [Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe? Anyone have an answer for me here? Here is my original question: I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without a password. How can I setup a list this way? Michael Johnson (firewing) wrote: If nothing else (security concerns aside), it'll alleviate confusion on subscribers' part who often get frustrated when they don't realize (or read the message they are sent or the information pages) that to unsub they need their password. At 04:44 PM 1/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without a password. I understand this can be dangerous but this is a controlled list and my users are going to be sub-par as far as intelligence goes. I notice that when I do a mass subscribe, it auto-generates a password for every user, if I could make that blank somehow, that would rock. But would the password being blank mean there is no password? Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] nntp gateway | list to NNTP works but NNTP to list does not
My question was, I want to keep a newsgroup and a list in sync. I am seeing that when a post is made to the list, the mailman updates the newsgroup, but if a new post is made to the newsgroup, the list is NOT updated. What am I missing? Thank you all for your patience with me. Terry ummm, its in the administration pages in the news mail gateway section. -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 Quoting Justin Zygmont [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi, where did you setup that option? On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Terry Davis wrote: There is an option in the gateway setup that says: Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list? I have that marked as yes but I am not seeing new posts to the nntp group being shot over to the mailing list. What am I missing here? Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] nntp gateway | list to NNTP works but NNTP to list does not
There is an option in the gateway setup that says: Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list? I have that marked as yes but I am not seeing new posts to the nntp group being shot over to the mailing list. What am I missing here? Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe?
I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without a password. I understand this can be dangerous but this is a controlled list and my users are going to be sub-par as far as intelligence goes. I notice that when I do a mass subscribe, it auto-generates a password for every user, if I could make that blank somehow, that would rock. But would the password being blank mean there is no password? Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] no require password for unsubscribe?
Michael Johnson (firewing) wrote: If nothing else (security concerns aside), it'll alleviate confusion on subscribers' part who often get frustrated when they don't realize (or read the message they are sent or the information pages) that to unsub they need their password. At 04:44 PM 1/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: I want to be able to allow my users to unsubscribe from a list without a password. I understand this can be dangerous but this is a controlled list and my users are going to be sub-par as far as intelligence goes. I notice that when I do a mass subscribe, it auto-generates a password for every user, if I could make that blank somehow, that would rock. But would the password being blank mean there is no password? Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users I agree, but that doesnt answer my question of how. :) Thank you -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp gateway | list to NNTP works but NNTP to list does not
ummm, its in the administration pages in the news mail gateway section. -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 Quoting Justin Zygmont [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi, where did you setup that option? On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Terry Davis wrote: There is an option in the gateway setup that says: Should new posts to the newsgroup be sent to the mailing list? I have that marked as yes but I am not seeing new posts to the nntp group being shot over to the mailing list. What am I missing here? Thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] cant get webpage to work
Hello, I am having some difficulty getting the web part of mailman to work. I wanted to create a V-host in apache called lists.domain.com and point everything to a directory. But I am not quiet sure what directory to point it to. Also, it defaults to the path of http://lists/mailman/listinfo/listname I cannot find mailman or listinfo directories in anything I extracted from mailman. The instructions are kinda sparse in the docs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] list access
I want to only allow access to my lists from people with @domain.com addresses. Is this possible? -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified
Hello, Support here has been great. Things are working out well. With one exception. I have an a-record set up that I am using (lists). When I send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the response comes back from [EMAIL PROTECTED] where hostname is the actual hostname of the server. How can I fix this? I have the following set: DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.domain.com' DEFAULT_URL = 'http://lists/mailman' thank you! -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified
Yes, that is in my mm_cfg.py file. Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Terry Davis wrote: I have the following set: DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.domain.com' DEFAULT_URL = 'http://lists/mailman' In which file? They need to be in ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py: mailman@battlezone:/lists.diarist.net/Mailman grep DEFAULT mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.diarist.net' # DEFAULT_URL must end in a slash! DEFAULT_URL = 'http://lists.diarist.net/mailman/' [ NOTE: the system itself is battle.yeehaw.net running three different [lists] domains, hence the 'lists.diarist.net' in the PATH info ] -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified
I use sendmail. I have the hostname and fqdn lists.domain.com in my Fw file. If it was masquerading all mail out with this hostname, then all my email would say it was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED] like it is now. Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Richard Idalski wrote: WOuld this not be more of a problem with either your MTA's aliases file, or with your MTA's configuration file tacking the wrong name on there? For instance if you're running sendmail check your sendmail.cf file to see what it has, or if you're running postfix chekc the main.cf file. Not sure if that would have any bearing, but worth a look. That would be more with the MASQUERADING option, rather than the alias file, but yes it's entirely possible his MTA is masquerading all outgoing email - that was my next suggestion. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...
I am really confused. If any developers can help me/us out with this, it would be greatly appreciated. Mailman is using hostname.domain.com as the domain of the lists. Like [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus using what I have specified in my mm_cfg.py file. Thank you Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Terry Davis wrote: hrm 'host_name': 'lists.birddog.com', Okay, so that should also match the hostname visible in the admin pages (want to verify that?). What the hee... This is where I personally would nuke everything, including my sendmail config, and start rom scratch. However, I would push this back up to the list and wait for one of the developers to answer... This has me baffled as well. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...
no, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raymond Tant wrote: Your problem might be in your MTA. Does your local user mail show up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Ray Terry Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/02 03:41PM I am really confused. If any developers can help me/us out with this, it would be greatly appreciated. Mailman is using hostname.domain.com as the domain of the lists. Like [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus using what I have specified in my mm_cfg.py file. Thank you Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Terry Davis wrote: hrm 'host_name': 'lists.birddog.com', Okay, so that should also match the hostname visible in the admin pages (want to verify that?). What the hee... This is where I personally would nuke everything, including my sendmail config, and start rom scratch. However, I would push this back up to the list and wait for one of the developers to answer... This has me baffled as well. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...
I figured out the problem with the hostname being used vs the name I specified. I am quite embarrassed to admit it but it should be a lesson that everyone should learn from. The name I was using was being used before as a web host. http://lists.domain.com/ I changed it and turned it into a mail host. I forgot to change it from a CNAME to an A record. This is why they tell you not to point CNAMEs and MX records. :) Thank you to all for trying. Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Terry Davis wrote: well, just FYI, I deleted and re-created the list with the new 'hacked' scripts and it still comes from hostname.domain.com. stupid. Go kick sendmail... :) Honestly, I don't think this is Mailman anymore. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] listname - first letter capitalized
This seems a bit weird to me. When I create a new list foobar-list, the name turns out to be Foobar-list. This seems not correct to me. If I type all lower cased, I expect that. Am I off base here? Thanks for your thoughts. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] listname - first letter capitalized
Well, I am thinking more along the lines of cosmetics. When the person receives an email the FROM would say [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a almost a silly discussion but I expected it to be lower-cased since that is that I typed. BUT The RFCs state that you have to retain case in user addresses, in the event that the machine at the other end needs that information. Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: Terry Davis wrote: This seems a bit weird to me. When I create a new list foobar-list, the name turns out to be Foobar-list. This seems not correct to me. If I type all lower cased, I expect that. Am I off base here? Does it really matter though? Most MTA's I'm aware of are case insensitive, so sending email to 'foobar-list' or 'Foobar-list' will still go to the same list. You can always change the case of the list name on the administration page, but as far as your MTA goes, it _shouldn't_ matter. -- H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc.. 3550 Arapahoe Ave, #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
