Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman and outlook.com

2013-10-09 Thread Tim Sterk 

On 07-10-13 04:36, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 10/04/2013 05:51 AM, Tim Sterk wrote:

Hi All,

I'm having a problem with outlook.com and mailman. When I'm trying to
send a message through Outlook.com marks it as spam, but when I'm
sending a message from the same domain (and IP address), it is accepted
without a hitch.

Underneath the headers of a message that is rejected at outlook.com:


Rejected or marked as spam? They are not the same. And if it was
rejected, where did you find the headers?


They are moved into the unwanted box, so I was able to view the message 
and headers from there.






*Is there anybody who can help me solving this problem?


Probably only Microsoft, but the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/4oA9
may help.



The interesting part for me is that this problem only applies to mail 
sent through mailman, if I'm sending an email to the same address from 
the same domain name it is accepted without a problem, so I'm thinking 
that there is something in the headers that triggers this reaction at 
outlook.com.


p.s. the messages are accepted without a problem at gmail.com (I haven't 
tried any other major mail providers).


Greetings,
Tim Sterk

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[Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman and outlook.com

2013-10-05 Thread Tim Sterk 

Hi All,

I'm having a problem with outlook.com and mailman. When I'm trying to 
send a message through Outlook.com marks it as spam, but when I'm 
sending a message from the same domain (and IP address), it is accepted 
without a hitch.


Underneath the headers of a message that is rejected at outlook.com:
*x-store-info:4r51+eLowCe79NzwdU2kRyU+pBy2R9QCDI9u8Kc1JelXzetVs2jxqzkjAYPLy37kFX3uWvhbpReT+kd3FNPdHDodYhyNaiuBe10IjgJ9uVS+uLoSKBU3VnG6jNOpx113ilW3cGTstfg=**
**Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; spf=pass (sender IP is 
5.100.228.36) smtp.mailfrom=multimedia-boun...@timsterk.nl; dkim=none 
header.d=omroep.nl; x-hmca=pass header.id=multimedia-boun...@timsterk.nl**

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And here are the headers of a mail that is accepted at outlook.com (same 
domain and IP address, different mailbox):

*
*

*x-store-info:4r51+eLowCe79NzwdU2kRwMf1FfZT+JrsFvRXoxb8+ayvnrdh