Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce notifications.

2009-05-31 Thread Timothy Park
Thank you very much Mark.  I'm sure that we'll be able to enact one of
those options.


Sincerely,

Tim

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
 Timothy Park wrote:

I'm sorry in advance if I'm not understanding Mailman's bounce notification
process, but here's my issue:  I've noticed that when a message bounces,
there are no notications to list owners.  I only stumbled upon this error
when we created a mailing list for a small group of developers, and one
wasn't receiving any email due to a problem with his mail server.  I had no
idea until he told me that he wasn't receiving our messages about a week
into the project.  When I checked Mailman's bounce log
(/var/log/mailmain/bounce), the erorr was there, and his bounce score was
1.0.  Is this the normal action of Mailman's bounce system? That is, to hold
off notifying the list owner of a bounce until the bounce score passes the
defined threshold?  If so, is there any way I can force bounce errors to be
delivered?  I tried disabling bounce processing, but that seems to just
discard bounced messages without a notification.  Some of our mailing lists
are mission critical where one person not receiving a message could be a
big deal, so if mailman could let us know when there is a delivery failure,
that would be wonderful (we wouldn't mind the extra email).  Thanks for your
help!


 Your observations are correct and that's the way bounce processing is
 designed to work.

 If you want to be notified of every bounce, you have a few choices:

 1) Be sure bounce_processing is Yes and bounce_notify_owner_on_disable
 is Yes, and set bounce_score_threshold = 1.0. This will cause a
 notice to be sent to the list owner containing the bounce message on
 the first bounce. The downside is the member's delivery will also be
 disabled, and the owner will then need to re-enable it, unless the
 address is truly undeliverable.

 2) Change the alias for LISTNAME-bounces to deliver to owner instead
 of bounces. This will direct all bounces to the owner, but requires
 delivery to Mailman to be via alias and to be truly effective requires
 aliases to not be automatically generated.

 3) Create a cron to run a few times a day and go through the bounce log
 looking for entries like

 May 28 05:06:04 2009 (12757) LISTNAME: u...@example.com bounce score:

 with timestamp  than the last run and mail a notice to LISTNAME-owner.

 4) Modify the code to do what you want.

 --
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 San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan


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[Mailman-Users] Bounce notifications.

2009-05-28 Thread Timothy Park
Hello,

I'm sorry in advance if I'm not understanding Mailman's bounce notification
process, but here's my issue:  I've noticed that when a message bounces,
there are no notications to list owners.  I only stumbled upon this error
when we created a mailing list for a small group of developers, and one
wasn't receiving any email due to a problem with his mail server.  I had no
idea until he told me that he wasn't receiving our messages about a week
into the project.  When I checked Mailman's bounce log
(/var/log/mailmain/bounce), the erorr was there, and his bounce score was
1.0.  Is this the normal action of Mailman's bounce system? That is, to hold
off notifying the list owner of a bounce until the bounce score passes the
defined threshold?  If so, is there any way I can force bounce errors to be
delivered?  I tried disabling bounce processing, but that seems to just
discard bounced messages without a notification.  Some of our mailing lists
are mission critical where one person not receiving a message could be a
big deal, so if mailman could let us know when there is a delivery failure,
that would be wonderful (we wouldn't mind the extra email).  Thanks for your
help!


Tim
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