[Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY
hi all... i'm really tired of clients batching over the subscription confirmation: but why?, nobody will do it and we goanna lose people?, it's to difficult, can we do it without it?!, our list is special.., etc, etc... so i did change the settings in Defaults.py but it's still asking for confirmation... what am i doing wrong? in the mm_cfg.py it says: from Defaults import * so that should take care of it if i change it in Defaults.py?!? relevant section from Defaults.py: # Yes = yes = On = on = True No = no = Off = off = False # SUBSCRIBE POLICY # 0 - open list (only when ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE is set to 1) ** # 1 - confirmation required for subscribes # 2 - admin approval required for subscribes # 3 - both confirmation and admin approval required # # ** please do not choose option 0 if you are not allowing open # subscribes (next variable) ### DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 1 DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 0 # Does this site allow completely unchecked subscriptions? ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = No ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = 1 ### = i tried Yes, True, yes then restart the runners .. how, if at all, can i do this per list and not for the whole site?! thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY
nevermind... sorry... figured it out... thanks... hi all... i'm really tired of clients batching over the subscription confirmation: but why?, nobody will do it and we goanna lose people?, it's to difficult, can we do it without it?!, our list is special.., etc, etc... so i did change the settings in Defaults.py but it's still asking for confirmation... what am i doing wrong? in the mm_cfg.py it says: from Defaults import * so that should take care of it if i change it in Defaults.py?!? relevant section from Defaults.py: # Yes = yes = On = on = True No = no = Off = off = False # SUBSCRIBE POLICY # 0 - open list (only when ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE is set to 1) ** # 1 - confirmation required for subscribes # 2 - admin approval required for subscribes # 3 - both confirmation and admin approval required # # ** please do not choose option 0 if you are not allowing open # subscribes (next variable) ### DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 1 DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 0 # Does this site allow completely unchecked subscriptions? ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = No ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = 1 ### = i tried Yes, True, yes then restart the runners .. how, if at all, can i do this per list and not for the whole site?! thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/kalin%40el.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe
i just got the emails - all of them at once - hours after the requests were made... and i'm seeing something in the maillog i haven't seen before: timeout waiting for input from local during Draining Input i just confirmed one. by replying. still not a member... this has never happened before. i found this thread without a resolution of the problem: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-July/045582.html anyone knows how that story ended? my mailman version is 2.1.5. it has been working fine so far except i have to restart mailman with cron because the bounce runner crashes for some reason... so then what does it mean when i sent 3 different email requests to subscribe to a list and nothing happens.. the ways are: sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject and body 'subscribe'. mail log says: l350hXwM001076: to=|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay= 00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30923, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent or in other words this is turned over to mailman. after A FEW HOURS this turns up in the mailman subscribe log: Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:24 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] still i have not gotten the email where i'm supposed to confirm my subscription. my name is not in the queue? what's up with the delay? thanks kalin mintchev wrote: what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?! They're spelled differently. Otherwise, none. listname-join is a synonym for listname-subscribe just as listname-leave is a synonym for listname-unsubscribe. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/kalin%40el.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/kalin%40el.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe
hi all.. what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?! thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] join vs subscribe
so then what does it mean when i sent 3 different email requests to subscribe to a list and nothing happens.. the ways are: sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject and body 'subscribe'. mail log says: l350hXwM001076: to=|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe list, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay= 00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30923, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent or in other words this is turned over to mailman. after A FEW HOURS this turns up in the mailman subscribe log: Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:21 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:24 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 04 20:17:25 2007 (5670) list: pending kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] still i have not gotten the email where i'm supposed to confirm my subscription. my name is not in the queue? what's up with the delay? thanks kalin mintchev wrote: what is the difference between listname-join and listname-subscribe?! They're spelled differently. Otherwise, none. listname-join is a synonym for listname-subscribe just as listname-leave is a synonym for listname-unsubscribe. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/kalin%40el.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Your message was rejected?!?
hi all... the email address the email is coming from is in the field: List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted. i just get: Your message was rejected. that's all. no explanation... there is nothing in the logs. just rejected - that's it... why? thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] delate all bounces....
I still don't know what the underlying issue is, possibly you have so many bounces that the bounce-events-.pck reaches some size limitation. What does the 'qrunner' log say about the deaths? What's in the 'error' log. well BounceRunner died apparently short after i restarted everything again. from the qrunner log: Jun 08 06:00:57 2006 (7641) BounceRunner qrunner started. Jun 08 06:30:52 2006 (7639) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 7641, sig: 9, sts: None, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Jun 08 06:31:05 2006 (8048) BounceRunner qrunner started. Jun 08 06:43:12 2006 (7639) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 8048, sig: 11, sts: None, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Jun 08 06:43:16 2006 (8159) BounceRunner qrunner started. Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 (7639) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 8159, sig: None, sts: 1, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] .(repeated 10 time i guess). Jun 08 06:44:14 2006 (7639) Qrunner BounceRunner reached maximum restart limit of 10, not restarting. the output from the error log for the same times is a bit longer so i'm attaching it. there are no other error log after these... thanks... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] delate all bounces....
the output from the error log for the same times is a bit longer so i'm attaching it. i guess no attachments ok here it is: Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): Traceback (most recent call last): Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): main() Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 230, in main Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): qrunner.run() Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 70, in run Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): filecnt = self._oneloop() Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 99, in _oneloop Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 151, in dequeue Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message) Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py, line 52, in message_from_string Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parsestr(s) Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py, line 75, in parsestr Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly) Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py, line 64, in parse Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py, line 240, in _parsebody Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): msgobj = self.parsestr(part) Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py, line 75, in parsestr Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): return self.parse(StringIO(text), headersonly=headersonly) Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py, line 61, in parse Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): root = self._class() Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): File /var/mailman/Mailman/Message.py, line 46, in __init__ Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): email.Message.Message.__init__(self) Jun 08 06:43:23 2006 qrunner(8159): AttributeError : 'tuple' object has no attribute 'Message' Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): Traceback (most recent call last): Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): File /var/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): main() Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): File /var/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 217, in main Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): qrunner = make_qrunner(*runners[0]) Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): File /var/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 106, in make_qrunner Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): __import__(modulename) Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 29, in ? Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): from Mailman import Utils Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): File /var/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py, line 68, in ? Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): cre = re.compile(r'%\(([_a-z]\w*?)\)s?', re.IGNORECASE) Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): File /usr/local/lib/python2.4/sre.py, line 180, in compile Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): return _compile(pattern, flags) Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): File /usr/local/lib/python2.4/sre.py, line 222, in _compile Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): if not sre_compile.isstring(pattern): Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): File /usr/local/lib/python2.4/sre_compile.py, line 471, in isstring Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): if isinstance(obj, tp): Jun 08 06:43:42 2006 qrunner(8170): TypeError : isinstance() arg 2 must be a class, type, or tuple of classes and types Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): Traceback (most recent call last): Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): File /var/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 270, in ? Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): main() Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): File /var/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 217, in main Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): qrunner = make_qrunner(*runners[0]) Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): File /var/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 106, in make_qrunner Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): __import__(modulename) Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): File /var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/BounceRunner.py, line 24, in ? Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): from email.MIMEText import MIMEText Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): File /var/mailman/pythonlib/email/MIMEText.py, line 8, in ? Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): from email.MIMENonMultipart import MIMENonMultipart Jun 08 06:44:07 2006 qrunner(8173): File /var/mailman/pythonlib/email/MIMENonMultipart.py, line 8, in ? Jun 08 06:44:07 2006
Re: [Mailman-Users] delate all bounces....
Are you talking about files in qfiles/bounces/ or files in data/ named bounce-events-p.pck? the former. i don't see the BounceRunner in the mailman processes and will start it through mailmanctl but i remember reading somewhere that that daemon should run every 15 min?!? by default?! the latter are all from last year so they'll be all gone... pretty big too thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] delate all bounces....
the former. i don't see the BounceRunner in the mailman processes and will start it through mailmanctl but i remember reading somewhere that that daemon should run every 15 min?!? by default?! ok. i did restart the daemons. but is till don't see BounceRunner in the ps list after getting rid of all the orphaned files i have a bit more space available but it'll be nice to get rid of those bounces too -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] delate all bounces....
hi... i have a huge directory full of bounces and much of disk space left. i'll be add a new disk soon but can i just wipe out all the bounce files under bounces?!! thanks... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] no confirmation required?
At 8:24 PM -0500 2006-02-16, kalin mintchev wrote: i have a set up of mailman that hosts a lot of email lists. recently more and more people want to have a list but a lot of them don't want their users to go through all the subscription-confirmation-welcome messages process. i took off the welcome messages but not sure how to avoid the confirmation email. This is something to be discouraged, because it makes you too much like a spammer. right... spamming about cancer awareness or wedding dresses si... i kinda explained that i'm aware of this argument... the other option is to lose those clients thanks anyway -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] no confirmation required?
hi all... i have a set up of mailman that hosts a lot of email lists. recently more and more people want to have a list but a lot of them don't want their users to go through all the subscription-confirmation-welcome messages process. i took off the welcome messages but not sure how to avoid the confirmation email. as far as i can see the options in the admin are not allowing this. i know what is the purpose of this confirmation and why it's implementation but no matter how many times i explain it to the list owners they don't want it. like a few of those clients are non-profit cancer awareness groups and a wedding dresses selling company - they just don't want it. i'd ratter use mailman than reinventing the wheel and there is always the option to unsubscribe so how do i avoid the confirmation? i would like to just send an email to the list using a form and the address in the form should be added to the list without further processing. i also realize that this has been discussed before but i just wanted to update it a bit... thanks.. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] bounce-events
hi all... i found (and deleted) a bunch of relatively big bounce-events-* files under the data directory. on line i found a posting citing: - your bounce queue runner isn't running as a possible reason for why these files are piling up there. i do have the qrunner on but which one is the bounce queue runner?! thanks -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce-events
have all of those except 'runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s' ?!??!?! thanks... i do have the qrunner on but which one is the bounce queue runner?! ps -aux | grep qrunner mailman253 0.0 1.433284 12792 ?? S13Oct05 12:49.98 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/mailman/bin/qrunner -- runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s mailman254 0.0 1.031684 9592 ?? S13Oct05 7:39.19 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/mailman/bin/qrunner -- runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s mailman255 0.0 1.031684 9456 ?? S13Oct05 6:32.72 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/mailman/bin/qrunner -- runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s mailman256 0.0 1.131964 10408 ?? S13Oct05 12:23.22 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/mailman/bin/qrunner -- runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s mailman257 0.0 0.830260 7112 ?? S13Oct05 6:18.44 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/mailman/bin/qrunner -- runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s mailman258 0.0 1.737600 15512 ?? S13Oct05 33:56.42 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/mailman/bin/qrunner -- runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s mailman259 0.0 1.031688 9500 ?? S13Oct05 7:50.87 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/mailman/bin/qrunner -- runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s mailman260 0.0 0.830260 7068 ?? S13Oct05 0:01.80 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/mailman/bin/qrunner -- runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s The second in this list. Dan -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce-events
There may be entries in Mailman's qrunner log noting when the bounce runner died and there may be associated error log entries that might help determine why. hi Mark... here is the log for the last restart of mailman today... there isn't anything about BounceRunner. i used mailmanctl... Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (1097) Master watcher caught SIGINT. Restarting. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2031) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2031) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2030) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2030) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2035) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2035) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2034) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2034) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2033) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2033) NewsRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2032) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2032) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2029) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGINT. Stopping. Oct 24 16:02:27 2005 (2029) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Oct 24 16:02:28 2005 (1097) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2031, sig: None, sts: 2, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Oct 24 16:02:28 2005 (1097) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2035, sig: None, sts: 2, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Oct 24 16:02:28 2005 (1097) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2034, sig: None, sts: 2, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Oct 24 16:02:28 2005 (1097) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2032, sig: None, sts: 2, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Oct 24 16:02:28 2005 (1097) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2030, sig: None, sts: 2, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Oct 24 16:02:28 2005 (1097) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2029, sig: None, sts: 2, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Oct 24 16:02:28 2005 (1097) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 2033, sig: None, sts: 2, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Oct 24 16:02:39 2005 (2049) CommandRunner qrunner started. Oct 24 16:02:39 2005 (2048) ArchRunner qrunner started. Oct 24 16:02:39 2005 (2053) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Oct 24 16:02:39 2005 (2052) RetryRunner qrunner started. Oct 24 16:02:39 2005 (2050) VirginRunner qrunner started. Oct 24 16:02:39 2005 (2051) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. Oct 24 16:02:40 2005 (2054) NewsRunner qrunner started. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] doesn't work...
Are you saying that the above returns an empty list?? How can that be? no, no... there are all there - about 1600 or so... but the john guy isn't there... i was just mentioning that i used the withlist as one way to delete the john guy. i was just trying to add that address and delete it a few different ways hoping that something in the pck file would get fixed... It doesn't get to that unless the address is in the mlist.getMembers() list and also passes the mlist.isMember(addr) test which means it is in either the mlist.members list or the mlist.digest_members list. that's clear. then if grep isn't finding that particular string and is not in m.getMembers() via withlist how's getMembers() via remove_members finding it? where does it come from? this doesn't really matter but - does getMembers() return all (digest and not) members? That doesn't mean there aren't digest_members. right. i was unclear. there are no digest_members on this list - they don't exist.. That's the point about dumping the configuration with bin/config_list and then restoring it later. This preserves all the customization. ok... i'll try that... thanks -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] doesn't work...
strings config.pck | grep wang this helped. found 'johnwang @aabdc.com'... took it out with withlist... isn't mailman supposed to check for stuff like that when mass subscribing? this was from a mass subscription thanks for the help... now things a back to normal... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] doesn't work...
can somebody explain this please?... thanks # ./remove_members -n -N aaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] # ./remove_members -a -n -N aaac Traceback (most recent call last): File ./remove_members, line 186, in ? main() File ./remove_members, line 176, in main admin_notif, userack) File /var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 990, in ApprovedDeleteMember self.removeMember(emailaddr) File /var/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 220, in removeMember self.__assertIsMember(member) File /var/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 113, in __assertIsMember raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] doesn't work...
and this - executed in the directory of the aaac list: who cares if s/he is a member - just get it out... why would you need to assertIsMember?!? doesn't make sense [~/aaac]# grep -rl [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [~/aaac]# ../../bin/remove_members -a -n -N aaac Traceback (most recent call last): File ../../bin/remove_members, line 186, in ? main() File ../../bin/remove_members, line 176, in main admin_notif, userack) File /var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 990, in ApprovedDeleteMember self.removeMember(emailaddr) File /var/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 220, in removeMember self.__assertIsMember(member) File /var/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 113, in __assertIsMember raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or explain this please... thank you: # ./add_members -a n -w n -r - aaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] # ./remove_members -a -n -N aaac Traceback (most recent call last): File ./remove_members, line 186, in ? main() File ./remove_members, line 176, in main admin_notif, userack) File /var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 990, in ApprovedDeleteMember self.removeMember(emailaddr) File /var/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 220, in removeMember self.__assertIsMember(member) File /var/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 113, in __assertIsMember raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: [EMAIL PROTECTED] can somebody explain this please?... thanks # ./remove_members -n -N aaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] # ./remove_members -a -n -N aaac Traceback (most recent call last): File ./remove_members, line 186, in ? main() File ./remove_members, line 176, in main admin_notif, userack) File /var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 990, in ApprovedDeleteMember self.removeMember(emailaddr) File /var/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 220, in removeMember self.__assertIsMember(member) File /var/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py, line 113, in __assertIsMember raise Errors.NotAMemberError, member Mailman.Errors.NotAMemberError: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/kalin%40el.net Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] doesn't work...
Because the method which is used to remove the member is more general than that. aha... ok. It appears something is messed up in the lists config.pck or perhaps there is a transparent character or something similar in the actual member address. right. but grep didn't find it either... so it's not there. Try: bin/withlist aaac Loading list aaac (unlocked) The variable `m' is the aaac MailList instance m.getMembers() i used that to delete the address a few times. btw - is there a list somewhere of all the commands that can be used while running withlist? and see what is returned (type control-D to the next prompt) Or try bin/dumpdb lists/aaac/config.pck and look at the lists 'members': did that earlier... john is not there and 'digest_members': there are no digests on this list... If possible, do this from a terminal/console that can display 'transparent' characters. right... that was done too... OTOH, since you've already blown off the membership, why not just use bin/config_list -o to dump the configuration, and remove, recreate the list, and use bin/config_list -i to reconfigure the list? because it's heavily customized and i'm just 'kinda helping' and there was stuff that needed to be sent 'right away'... like 'urgent'... thanks... -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Privacy options
hi all... i just upgraded to 2.1.5... in the 2.0 version i had before in the Privacy options there was a setting for every single message to be approved - doesn't matter if the member was new or not. now i can't find this... i see that there is a way to turn that behavior for posts per member but that means that i'd have to do it one by one?!? can i do that for all the members at once in 2.1.5? looked at the bin but nothing looked like it... thanks... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Privacy options
right... sorry... thanks... In a flurry of recycled electrons, kalin mintchev wrote: in the 2.0 version i had before in the Privacy options there was a setting for every single message to be approved - doesn't matter if the member was new or not. now i can't find this... i see that there is a way to turn that behavior for posts per member but that means that i'd have to do it one by one?!? can i do that for all the members at once in 2.1.5? looked at the bin but nothing looked like it... See FAQ 3.11, set everyone moderationed. z! -- -- In a world without walls or fences, who needs Windows and Gates? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] member_posting_only
hi... mailman version 2.0.13 Restrict posting privilege to list members? - yes. i get a lot of messages to go to the Administrative requests page to aprove messages that are from people who are NOT on the list at all. what's up with that? -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only
Because they're not on the list, their posts are held for moderation, hence the notification. right. but.. if they are not on the list they should not be approved - i mean the posting is allowed ONLY to members (member_posting_only) so why is mailman holding messages for approval that's not coming from members at all? I don't remember if you have an option to discard them in 2.0.13 - it's at least two years out of date. In 2.1.x, you have the option of holding, rejecting, accepting or discarding posts from non-members. Check under privacy options to see if those options exist in 2.0. If not, then may I suggest an update ;-) ? i expected that answer. thanks. i know. but unfortunately i do not have the time to do it. i have other machines that run version 2.1.5. can't move the list thought Dan Dan Phillips Professor of Horn, University of Memphis webmaster: http://music.memphis.edu -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only
On Apr 19, 2005, at 3:42 PM, kalin mintchev wrote: right. but.. if they are not on the list they should not be approved - i mean the posting is allowed ONLY to members (member_posting_only) so why is mailman holding messages for approval that's not coming from members at all? I would guess that the thinking was that since members often post from alternate addresses or aliases, in that case, a moderator can approve the post and notify the member about the situation. This would be preferable to the post being silently discarded, IMO. I don't remember if it's a silent discard or if a rejection notice is sent to the poster in 2.0. thanks Dan. i disagree thought. i don't see how you'd recognize a member of the list except by the email address. how'd you possibly know that the email address that's in the From header on the message you are about to approve belongs to one of that list's members if it's not on the list? ok - unless the list is for your family members or closest friends and your know all their alternative email addresses in 2.0 you can not even relate names to addresses. it just doesn't make any sense... i mean it says 'member_posting_ONLY' Dan -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only
Yes, this means that I (or a moderator) needs to read through the held queue and rescue any stray messages, but it only takes a few minutes a day. I think holding questionable messages is the best default because it allows the list-owner to remedy the situation. If the default was to discard, you might miss some gems. I know that a lot of folks out there are intimidated by Mailman, and so I try to make it easy for them. If they make a mistake, I go ahead and take care of things, if I can figure out what they were trying to do. i agree with most of this. this is exactly the case - a list that was set up according to a client specifications so that they didn't have to deal with configuration and set up but still wanted to approve the messages. it's kind of a busy press site where information has to be revised and approved before sending out to the list. they don't read headers. and their problem is that specially over the weekend when the list is not moderated it gets filled with crap. and i can understand them specially if they have to deal with about 1 members to guess their alternative email addresses - different companies, different countries even, etc... just not possible... my point was/is that the 'members_posting_only' is supposed to be for members ONLY but it's not... -- Heather Madrone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.madrone.com A rolling stone gathers no mass. -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only
Those messages aren't approved -- they're held. ok, Brad. thanks. sure. they are held. held for approval. they are not approved. true. are they from subscribed members? some. most are not. but the setting says members_postings_only = 'yes' (ONLY!) ok. but there are about 60-70% messages that come from non members. they are held too. held for approval. or to be discarded. why? i don't know. they are not members. they should not be held. at all. in short the logic says: no, they should not even considered to be held for approval. they are sent to the list by non members (spammers). the list is restricted so that ONLY members can post. that means any post from anybody not on the list doesn't matter - it's not important. shouldn't be held for approval. what is not clear in the statement members_postings_only='yes'? 'yes' or 'only'? i guess i'm hanging on only. wouldn't you? sorry thanks... -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only
jc ok. in my first post i mentioned that this is mailman version 2.0.13. those options don't exist there... but thanks... -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only
Most of those kinds of messages, on my lists, and I have over 60, are spam. You can set Mailman to discard all held messages, so you won't ever see them. They will also discard member posts from different addresses, etc., but this may be a small price to pay for not having to go through them. thanks... unfortunately the client in this case does want to approve messages from members because they need to make sure the information is relevant and correct. it's for a press company so fact checking is important for them... David Andrews At 08:06 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote: Those messages aren't approved -- they're held. ok, Brad. thanks. sure. they are held. held for approval. they are not approved. true. are they from subscribed members? some. most are not. but the setting says members_postings_only = 'yes' (ONLY!) ok. but there are about 60-70% messages that come from non members. they are held too. held for approval. or to be discarded. why? i don't know. they are not members. they should not be held. at all. in short the logic says: no, they should not even considered to be held for approval. they are sent to the list by non members (spammers). the list is restricted so that ONLY members can post. that means any post from anybody not on the list doesn't matter - it's not important. shouldn't be held for approval. what is not clear in the statement members_postings_only='yes'? 'yes' or 'only'? i guess i'm hanging on only. wouldn't you? sorry thanks... -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/dandrews%40visi.com Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] add_members slow, very slow..
kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 7 hours now and counting... am i the only one on this list?! No, I think it just means no on has an answer for you. Have you tried putting some debugging prints into the code or anything? no.. but will it help turning subscribe/unsubscribe notification off? less mail to write to the queue, right? does mailman wait for the mail to be sent to continue deleting or entering addresses from/in the list?! thanks. -Karl uhhh... it's going close to 5 1/2 hours now! i need this list to be operational today! what's the big deal with reading 1 lines of email addresses. i would have read them by now a few dozen times. what's up with add_members?!? hi all... i have a mailman version 2.0.13 running on an older box - rh 7.1 and i had to replace the members of a list. so i removed all. this took about 1 1/2 hours to finish and now i'm importing the members back in - they are about 10 000. it has been going on for about 3 hours. this is how i executed the command: /add_members -n addss.txt -c n -w n listname why add_members is so slow? thanks -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] add_members slow, very slow..
thanks Karl..
i think it was the subscribe/unsubscribe option. it was writing to many
emails. now adding is quick
thanks...
kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
7 hours now and counting... am i the only one on this list?!
No, I think it just means no on has an answer for you.
Have you tried putting some debugging prints into the code or
anything?
no.. but will it help turning subscribe/unsubscribe notification off?
less mail to write to the queue, right?
does mailman wait for the mail to be sent to continue deleting or
entering
addresses from/in the list?!
thanks.
I'm sorry, I don't know the answers.
Sometimes when I've needed to debug Mailman, I've found it useful to
put in custom logging statements. For example, in
/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/bounces, I'll put statements like
print sys.stderr, _('KFF: reached here: %(listname)s')
Then I watch /var/lib/mailman/logs/bounces, to see which of my
statements get printed, and with what data.
It helps to know a little Python, but you don't need to know much.
Note the line
LogStdErr('error', 'bounces')
at the top of the script. The first part says to log standard error,
the second part says which logfile to use. Each script has a line
like this near the top.
Hope this helps you debug,
-Karl
-Karl
uhhh... it's going close to 5 1/2 hours now! i need this list to
be
operational today! what's the big deal with reading 1 lines of
email
addresses. i would have read them by now a few dozen times.
what's up with add_members?!?
hi all...
i have a mailman version 2.0.13 running on an older box - rh 7.1
and
i
had
to replace the members of a list. so i removed all. this took
about 1
1/2
hours to finish and now i'm importing the members back in - they
are
about
10 000. it has been going on for about 3 hours.
this is how i executed the command:
/add_members -n addss.txt -c n -w n listname
why add_members is so slow?
thanks
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[Mailman-Users] add_members slow, very slow..
hi all... i have a mailman version 2.0.13 running on an older box - rh 7.1 and i had to replace the members of a list. so i removed all. this took about 1 1/2 hours to finish and now i'm importing the members back in - they are about 10 000. it has been going on for about 3 hours. this is how i executed the command: /add_members -n addss.txt -c n -w n listname why add_members is so slow? thanks -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] add_members slow, very slow..
7 hours now and counting... am i the only one on this list?! uhhh... it's going close to 5 1/2 hours now! i need this list to be operational today! what's the big deal with reading 1 lines of email addresses. i would have read them by now a few dozen times. what's up with add_members?!? hi all... i have a mailman version 2.0.13 running on an older box - rh 7.1 and i had to replace the members of a list. so i removed all. this took about 1 1/2 hours to finish and now i'm importing the members back in - they are about 10 000. it has been going on for about 3 hours. this is how i executed the command: /add_members -n addss.txt -c n -w n listname why add_members is so slow? thanks -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
[Mailman-Users] email list into mailman list
hi all, i had to upgrade to mailman from another list server (listar). listar uses a text file for each list called dist that has all the email addresses subscribed to that list to send the messages out to them. it looks like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc... .. how can i port that list to a newly created list in mailman? i was looking for a similar text file where mailman keeps the subscribers in the directory of each list but there is nothing like it... any help will be appreciated... thanks... -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] email list into mailman list
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Stonewall Ballard wrote: How about using the Mass Subscription section under Membership Management on the admin page? At least in 2.1b3, you can supply a file with just addresses. - Stoney cool. that sounds like it... any limitations on how many you can do at once?... some of those old lists have 4000 - 5000 subscribers... On 9/25/02 3:19 PM, Kalin Mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, i had to upgrade to mailman from another list server (listar). listar uses a text file for each list called dist that has all the email addresses subscribed to that list to send the messages out to them. it looks like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc... .. how can i port that list to a newly created list in mailman? i was looking for a similar text file where mailman keeps the subscribers in the directory of each list but there is nothing like it... any help will be appreciated... thanks... -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
