Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem hooking mailman up with sendmail
--- Clement Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stupidmail4me a écrit : Here's the setup: OpenBSD 4.0 Mailman 2.1.8p3 I have in my mc file I have VIRTUSER_DOMAIN(`lists.foo.org') set (and yes, I've run m4 and made the cf file). In mailertable I've got lists.foo.org mailman:lists.foo.org. But if I try and send a message I get a 550 5.1.1 User Unknown. I'm not sure I understand what you're trying, but I never added a mailman mailer, and so a mailman:domain definition in the mailertable. Rather, the mailman mails should go thru the local mailer, then thru prog with pipes aliases (local name: |command). Also, IIRC, putting a domain in mailertable will prevent the virtusertable to be checked, so the virtuser_domain is useless here. However, I'm not really sure about the order, need a sendmail expert here ;) VIRTUSER_DOMAIN is not useless, it still gets run through virtusertable. You need a VIRTUSER_DOMAIN so that it runs through a mailer (which becomes the local mailer, in this case, mm-handler). I'm almost sure that you cannot have both, though. Regards, -- Clément Hermann __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem hooking mailman up with sendmail
Precisely Mr Hermann. As such, it has to be invoked via mailertable (for an entire domain) or via aliases for specific addresses. --- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clement Hermann wrote: Do you use a specific mailer macro to execute mailman without using aliases ? I do not know the mm-handler you're talking about. mm-handler is a script in the contrib/ directory of the distribution. it is intended to be invoked by Sendmail to receive all mail addressed to a specific domain (the one used for the Mailman list addresses) and deliver it properly to Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problem hooking mailman up with sendmail
I'm pulling my hair out on this one. I have mailman working on one machine and can't get it to work on another with the exact same config. Here's the setup: OpenBSD 4.0 Mailman 2.1.8p3 I have in my mc file I have VIRTUSER_DOMAIN(`lists.foo.org') set (and yes, I've run m4 and made the cf file). In mailertable I've got lists.foo.org mailman:lists.foo.org. But if I try and send a message I get a 550 5.1.1 User Unknown. What am I doing wrong? For the life of me I'v tried everything?!?!?!?! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not archiving
OK. I'm an absolute idiot! I'm very sorry for wasting your time. You've been absolutely right the whole time (we both just didn't know it). So. It never reached the archive runner so it was never archived. It was successfully sent, but never through the actual list. I was just using mailman@ as a test bed before I set up my other lists. I've also set up a virtuser in virtusertable ([EMAIL PROTECTED] to root) because you don't really want mailman alerting you to the fact that it's not broken. So sendmail was reading this before it got sent to the mailman mailer! Absolute idiot! Thank you so very much! --- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stupidmail4me wrote: Yes, the qrunner log shows the shutdown and startup from mailmanctl. I've also checked and ToArchive is in the pipeline (it's not commented out or changed in any conf file). This is why it's so odd. The patch I posted causes ToArchive to write the 'ToArchive invoked message-id' message to the debug log as the very first thing it does. Therefore, the absence of this log message seems to say it isn't being invoked at all. Does the list have a 'pipeline' attribute? (Run 'bin/dumpdb lists/listname/config.pck' to check.) -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not archiving
Nothing. It doesn't create any log and there's no
appropriate entries in any log.
I've checked the headers for the delivered messages
and there's no x-archive headers (they're not being
myteriously added).
--- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
stupidmail4me wrote:
It is set to Yes.
--- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the list's archive attribute set to Yes?
(Archiving Options in the
web admin interface)
Apply the attached patch to your mailman
installation, restart Mailman,
post a message to the list and report the contents
of Mailman's
'debug' log.
To apply the patch, cd to the mailman install
directory and
patch -p0 path/to/patch.txt
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for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use
your sense - B. Dylan
--- Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py 2006-04-15
16:56:00.0 -0700
+++ Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py 2006-10-10
08:14:14.015625000 -0700
@@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
from Mailman import mm_cfg
from Mailman import LockFile
from Mailman.Queue.Runner import Runner
+from Mailman.Logging.Syslog import syslog
@@ -32,6 +33,7 @@
# Support clobber_date, i.e. setting the
date in the archive to the
# received date, not the (potentially
bogus) Date: header of the
# original message.
+syslog('debug', 'ArchRunner processing %s',
msg.get('message-id'))
clobber = 0
originaldate = msg.get('date')
receivedtime =
formatdate(msgdata['received_time'])
--- Mailman/Handlers/ToArchive.py 2006-04-15
16:56:08.0 -0700
+++ Mailman/Handlers/ToArchive.py 2006-10-10
08:14:47.453125000 -0700
@@ -22,10 +22,12 @@
from Mailman import mm_cfg
from Mailman.Queue.sbcache import get_switchboard
+from Mailman.Logging.Syslog import syslog
def process(mlist, msg, msgdata):
+syslog('debug', 'ToArchive invoked %s',
msg.get('message-id'))
# short circuits
if msgdata.get('isdigest') or not
mlist.archive:
return
@@ -35,6 +37,7 @@
if msg.has_key('x-no-archive') or
msg.get('x-archive', '').lower() == 'no':
return
# Send the message to the archiver queue
+syslog('debug', 'ToArchive queueing %s',
msg.get('message-id'))
archq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.ARCHQUEUE_DIR)
# Send the message to the queue
archq.enqueue(msg, msgdata)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not archiving
Yes, the qrunner log shows the shutdown and startup from mailmanctl. I've also checked and ToArchive is in the pipeline (it's not commented out or changed in any conf file). This is why it's so odd. --- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stupidmail4me wrote: Nothing. It doesn't create any log and there's no appropriate entries in any log. If you applied the patch and then restarted Mailman and you get no 'debug' log with any messages, either the ToArchive handler is not in the pipeline, or you're not looking in the right directory for the logs. Does the 'qrunner' log show entries from the restart? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not archiving
Yes, ArchRunner is running... 30014 ?? I 2:00.15 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /usr/local/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s But no, there's nothing in qfiles/archive. --- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stupidmail4me wrote: Mail is sending through the lists appropriately, but it's not archiving at all. I've checked Defaults.py and mm_cfg.py and the list's configuration options and they're all set to archive. I've checked permissions in /var/spool/archive/* and they appear to be fine (if I give _mailman a shell I can create files). Is ArchiveRunner running? Is there anything in Mailman's qfiles/archive/ directory? Is there anything in Mailman's 'error' log? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not archiving
Nothing in the error logs. mm_cfg.py: MTA = None DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.foo.org' DEFAULT_URL_HOST= 'lists.foo.org' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) --- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stupidmail4me wrote: Yes, ArchRunner is running... 30014 ?? I 2:00.15 /usr/local/bin/python2.3 /usr/local/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s But no, there's nothing in qfiles/archive. Once again, is there anything in Mailman's error log? Also, are there any settings relating to archiving in mm_cfg.py? If so, what are they? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not archiving
It is set to Yes. --- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stupidmail4me wrote: Nothing in the error logs. Is the list's archive attribute set to Yes? (Archiving Options in the web admin interface) -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Mailman not archiving
I'm running Mailman-2.1.8p0 on an OpenBSD 3.9 box. I have everything set up correctly (I've installed successfully using older versions on older versions of OpenBSD) as far as I can see. Mail is sending through the lists appropriately, but it's not archiving at all. I've checked Defaults.py and mm_cfg.py and the list's configuration options and they're all set to archive. I've checked permissions in /var/spool/archive/* and they appear to be fine (if I give _mailman a shell I can create files). Has anyone successfully installed the package on OpenBSD or had similar problems? Any ideas will help as I'm all out of them. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Forged from headers and non existent lists
You're right. That's a good question. Why is mailman receiving these messages? Here's the message that gets sent back: Your mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] could not be sent: no list named blah is known by lists.foo.com For a list of publicly-advertised mailing lists hosted on this server, visit this URL: http://lists.foo.com/ If this does not resolve your problem, you may write to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] lists.foo.com delivers e-mail to registered mailing lists and to the administrative addresses defined and required by IETF Request for Comments (RFC) 2142 [1]. Personal e-mail addresses are not offered by this server. The Internet Engineering Task Force [2] (IETF) oversees the development of open standards for the Internet community, including the protocols and formats employed by Internet mail systems. For your convenience, your original mail is attached. [1] Crocker, D. Mailbox Names for Common Services, Roles and Functions. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2142.txt [2] http://www.ietf.org/ What can I change so that nothing gets sent? --- Hans Ulrich Niedermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stupidmail4me [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My site is getting a lot of spam sent to my lists. They are being sent from unknown people using forged from headers. Mailman then sends an email to these forged from headers telling them so and so list doesn't exist. Most of these forged from headers aren't real addresses, so there begins loops of mailman trying to send out a message, and their email servers telling mine that address doesn't exist. Is there an option in Mailman to just disregard messages sent to lists that don't exist? I don't want to send a message informing them that the list doesn't exist, I just want Mailman to ignore it. Is this possible? Why does Mailman receive those mails in the first place? There should be no valid alias for those non-existing lists and the MTA thus should not accept those mails at all. If the MTA just returns a SMTP error no such user, no additional mails are generated. Gruß, Hans Ulrich Niedermann __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Forged from headers and non existent lists
I just figured it out. You're right, it's not mailman sending out the response. I'm using mm-handler and that's what's sending out the bad list name response. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Forged from headers and non existent lists
My site is getting a lot of spam sent to my lists. They are being sent from unknown people using forged from headers. Mailman then sends an email to these forged from headers telling them so and so list doesn't exist. Most of these forged from headers aren't real addresses, so there begins loops of mailman trying to send out a message, and their email servers telling mine that address doesn't exist. Is there an option in Mailman to just disregard messages sent to lists that don't exist? I don't want to send a message informing them that the list doesn't exist, I just want Mailman to ignore it. Is this possible? -James __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
