Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with cron
Nikos Gatsis wrote: You mean: 0 12 * * * mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests - 0 12 * * * /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests Yes, that's exactly what I mean. All commands in cron are likewise... I have already delete them and everything is OK. Why you put this mailman command in contab.in? We do not put it there. It was put there by whoever created the Mailman package (rpm, port, whatever) that you installed because it was intended to be installed in a file in /etc/cron.d and not by the crontab command. Also, it is not a command. Files in /etc/cron.d, do not belong to a specific user, so they need an extra field for the userid under which to run. That's what the 'mailman' is in this file. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with cron
OK. Actualy I use fedora's rpm. Thank you for your help! Mark Sapiro wrote: Nikos Gatsis wrote: You mean: 0 12 * * * mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests - 0 12 * * * /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests Yes, that's exactly what I mean. All commands in cron are likewise... I have already delete them and everything is OK. Why you put this mailman command in contab.in? We do not put it there. It was put there by whoever created the Mailman package (rpm, port, whatever) that you installed because it was intended to be installed in a file in /etc/cron.d and not by the crontab command. Also, it is not a command. Files in /etc/cron.d, do not belong to a specific user, so they need an extra field for the userid under which to run. That's what the 'mailman' is in this file. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with cron
Thank you Mark. I put the mailto line in crontab and I recieve the first errors: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found I think refers to mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/... lines. What is wrong with that? Mark Sapiro wrote: nikos wrote: Hello list. I've just install mailman 2.1.9 in a fedora 6 server. Everything works fine except cron. I'm recieving errors like: You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subjects: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs cron is encountering errors and trying to mail them to the owner of the crontab which is [EMAIL PROTECTED] These mails from cron are being delivered to the 'mailman' list as posts and the list is not accepting them. What did I do wrong? There may be permission issues or something else causing the cron errors. You have to see the email which will report the response from the command cron is running. The email actually may be attached to the reject notice, but it would be better to put [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the top of mailman's crontab to get the cron errors mailed to you directly. I've just load contab.in in crontab -umailman What will happents If I stop cron for mailman? None of the periodic jobs such as sending digests, sending pending request reminders, sending monthly password reminders, gzipping the archive text files, etc will be run. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with cron
nikos wrote: I put the mailto line in crontab and I recieve the first errors: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found I think refers to mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/... lines. What is wrong with that? You have installed a system crontab as the mailman user's crontab. The crontab you installed is designed to be put in a file in /etc/cron.d/ (e.g. /etc/cron.d/mailman). Thus it has an extra field between the days/times and the command which contains the userid (mailman) under which the command is to be run. If you install it in /var/spool/cron/ via the crontab command, you have to remove the mailman userid field from between the times and the commands. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with cron
nikos wrote: Hello list. I've just install mailman 2.1.9 in a fedora 6 server. Everything works fine except cron. I'm recieving errors like: You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subjects: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs cron is encountering errors and trying to mail them to the owner of the crontab which is [EMAIL PROTECTED] These mails from cron are being delivered to the 'mailman' list as posts and the list is not accepting them. What did I do wrong? There may be permission issues or something else causing the cron errors. You have to see the email which will report the response from the command cron is running. The email actually may be attached to the reject notice, but it would be better to put [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the top of mailman's crontab to get the cron errors mailed to you directly. I've just load contab.in in crontab -umailman What will happents If I stop cron for mailman? None of the periodic jobs such as sending digests, sending pending request reminders, sending monthly password reminders, gzipping the archive text files, etc will be run. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] problem with cron
Hello list. I've just install mailman 2.1.9 in a fedora 6 server. Everything works fine except cron. I'm recieving errors like: You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subjects: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/checkdbs What did I do wrong? I've just load contab.in in crontab -umailman What will happents If I stop cron for mailman? Thanx Nikos -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] problem with cron jobs
Hi, I installed a Redhat rpm mailman-2.1.5-23 on a Redhat enterprise server. The mailman appears to be working, but I'm having problems with cron. When the job run root posts to the 'mailman' list I created the following: /bin/sh: line 1: mailman: command not found I have no errors with 'check_perms' and /etc/cron.d/mailman looks fine. I can run: #su - mailman -c /var/mailman/cron/gate_news without errors. Any Ideas? Jon -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with cron jobs
At 12:07 PM -0700 2005-03-09, Jon Jacobsen wrote: I installed a Redhat rpm mailman-2.1.5-23 on a Redhat enterprise server. The mailman appears to be working, but I'm having problems with cron. When the job run root posts to the 'mailman' list I created the following: /bin/sh: line 1: mailman: command not found Have you looked at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.025.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.057.htp? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with cron jobs
Yes. I believe the 'mailman' list it setup correctly. I am trying to figure out why I am getting a bash error when then python script runs. I even put .bashrc in mailman's home directory. I run: su mailman -c /usr/bin/python -S -v /var/mailman/cron/disabled and don't see any errors in the dump to standard IO. /var/log/mailman/error does not show errors either Thanks Brad Knowles wrote: At 12:07 PM -0700 2005-03-09, Jon Jacobsen wrote: I installed a Redhat rpm mailman-2.1.5-23 on a Redhat enterprise server. The mailman appears to be working, but I'm having problems with cron. When the job run root posts to the 'mailman' list I created the following: /bin/sh: line 1: mailman: command not found Have you looked at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.025.htp and http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.057.htp? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with cron jobs
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 12:07 -0700, Jon Jacobsen wrote: Hi, I installed a Redhat rpm mailman-2.1.5-23 on a Redhat enterprise server. The mailman appears to be working, but I'm having problems with cron. When the job run root posts to the 'mailman' list I created the following: /bin/sh: line 1: mailman: command not found I have no errors with 'check_perms' and /etc/cron.d/mailman looks fine. I can run: #su - mailman -c /var/mailman/cron/gate_news without errors. Any Ideas? There is a difference between the format of cron jobs created with crontab vs. what is the system cron files located in /etc/cron.d. That difference is the insertion of the username (uid) that the cron job is to be run as. The username is inserted after the 5 time fields and before the command. Look at the file /etc/cron.d/mailman, you'll see lines that look something like this: 0 5 1 * * mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/mailpasswds Note that the 6th field is the username mailman which is the user the command is supposed run with the privileges of. ONLY files in /etc/cron.d have this extra field. If you installed the cron jobs using the command crontab using a file that has this format (recall that crontab files DO NOT have the username in them, its specified as an argument to crontab (e.g. -u) then cron will be confused into thinking the command is mailman because the 6th entry in a crontab file is the command (its the 7th entry in a system cron file). This is the most likely cause of the symptom you report. The rpm is supposed to correctly handle the cron installation and is aware of the difference between system cron files and files passed to crontab (of course there might be an rpm bug, especially if you didn't manually try to modify what the rpm installation did). I just spoke with the cron maintainer here who said there were some versions of cron in RHEL3 (which is the distribution your mailman rpm came from) that had some bugs. You could try updating your version of cron and see if that helps, but it really sounds to me like a mismatch of the cron formats. -- John Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with cron jobs
It seems that /var/mailman/cron/crontab.in gets copied to /etc/cron.d/mailman when mailman is started. These files are the same and I have not modified them. It does appear that the Redhat cron is having a problem executing the script as mailman user. John Dennis wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 12:07 -0700, Jon Jacobsen wrote: Hi, I installed a Redhat rpm mailman-2.1.5-23 on a Redhat enterprise server. The mailman appears to be working, but I'm having problems with cron. When the job run root posts to the 'mailman' list I created the following: /bin/sh: line 1: mailman: command not found I have no errors with 'check_perms' and /etc/cron.d/mailman looks fine. I can run: #su - mailman -c /var/mailman/cron/gate_news without errors. Any Ideas? There is a difference between the format of cron jobs created with crontab vs. what is the system cron files located in /etc/cron.d. That difference is the insertion of the username (uid) that the cron job is to be run as. The username is inserted after the 5 time fields and before the command. Look at the file /etc/cron.d/mailman, you'll see lines that look something like this: 0 5 1 * * mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/mailpasswds Note that the 6th field is the username mailman which is the user the command is supposed run with the privileges of. ONLY files in /etc/cron.d have this extra field. If you installed the cron jobs using the command crontab using a file that has this format (recall that crontab files DO NOT have the username in them, its specified as an argument to crontab (e.g. -u) then cron will be confused into thinking the command is mailman because the 6th entry in a crontab file is the command (its the 7th entry in a system cron file). This is the most likely cause of the symptom you report. The rpm is supposed to correctly handle the cron installation and is aware of the difference between system cron files and files passed to crontab (of course there might be an rpm bug, especially if you didn't manually try to modify what the rpm installation did). I just spoke with the cron maintainer here who said there were some versions of cron in RHEL3 (which is the distribution your mailman rpm came from) that had some bugs. You could try updating your version of cron and see if that helps, but it really sounds to me like a mismatch of the cron formats. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with cron jobs
At 2:40 PM -0700 2005-03-09, Jon Jacobsen wrote: Yes. I believe the 'mailman' list it setup correctly. I am trying to figure out why I am getting a bash error when then python script runs. I even put .bashrc in mailman's home directory. Weird. There shouldn't be any invocation of bash, at least not by Mailman or Python when trying to send e-mail to a list. Are you sure that you've got a Python executable where the Mailman scripts are expecting it? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See http://www.sage.org/ for more info. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] problem with cron script
Hi @all I installed mailman 2.1.4 out from the source on my suse 8.1 system. Everything is working fine except one of the cron scripts, every minute I get a mail with the following content Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner, line 89, in ? from Mailman.Handlers import HandlerAPI File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py, line 26, in ? from Mailman.pythonlib.StringIO import StringIO ImportError: No module named pythonlib.StringIO How can I fix the problem? Cu Christian -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] problem with cron/nightly_gzip
It would seem that this command weren't working so well for me, although something is doing. With the verbose option I get: [root]# cron/nightly_gzip -v Processing list: mailman Processing list: prueba I was editing that script and I got some txt files compressed, so it seems that works (I have zlib, and gzip) but I think I don't understand completely how it process the archives, and what files are processed? (mbox, txt?). Could you please help me? I'm using MhonArc for the web archival. For example I have these files: archives/private/prueba.mbox/ archives/private/prueba.mbox/prueba.mbox archives/private/prueba/ archives/private/prueba/index.html archives/private/prueba/msg0.html archives/private/prueba/msg1.html archives/private/prueba/attachments archives/private/prueba/attachments/20031030 etc. For testing purposes, I setup some lists for daily archival. Thanks, Pablo Chamorro C. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
