[Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems
I would interested in having people search their mail logs for the bounce message shown in my first message and finding out whether anyone else is seeing this message. While I don't know if this makes any difference I have a 2.1.3 system just upgraded this week. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems
LaMc == Links at Momsview com Links writes: LaMc Oct 23 09:39:34 myserver postfix/smtp[5615]: 974515884F8: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.152], delay=1, status=bounced (host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.152] said: 500 SYNTAX ERROR, COMMAND UNRECOGNIZED) I've heard that this particular message is an obscured content-based rejection message. Perhaps your message was discussing something they didn't like, or perhaps they've banned mail referencing some particular domain. did that message include reference to a web site via IP address instead of name? they'll block those, too. My logs show message flowing just fine from Mailman to AOL at 9:24 am US Eastern Time, with the VERP'd return addresses. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems
Well actually this is part of their new MIME filtering. We have a web log reporting engine that makes some positively huge email's with MIME encoded charts and other images. AOL barf's continually on these while it lets other MIME encoded traffic from us to the same person(s) go right on through. Just another case of the total ineptitude present at AOL. --Ed At 10:11 AM 10/24/2003 -0400, you wrote: LaMc == Links at Momsview com Links writes: LaMc Oct 23 09:39:34 myserver postfix/smtp[5615]: 974515884F8: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.152], delay=1, status=bounced (host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.152] said: 500 SYNTAX ERROR, COMMAND UNRECOGNIZED) I've heard that this particular message is an obscured content-based rejection message. Perhaps your message was discussing something they didn't like, or perhaps they've banned mail referencing some particular domain. did that message include reference to a web site via IP address instead of name? they'll block those, too. My logs show message flowing just fine from Mailman to AOL at 9:24 am US Eastern Time, with the VERP'd return addresses. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ed%40easent.net __ EAS*Ent.Net - World Class Web Hosting and Email Box Services www.easent.net -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems
I upgraded to 2.1.3 last week on an up2date RHL 7.2 running Sendmail, have several active, personalized lists with AOL subscribers and do NOT find delivery errors for AOL addresses in my logs. n. On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 06:41:52AM -0400, Links at Momsview.com wrote: I would interested in having people search their mail logs for the bounce message shown in my first message and finding out whether anyone else is seeing this message. While I don't know if this makes any difference I have a 2.1.3 system just upgraded this week. -- Nate Perry-Thistle Director of Technology Performance Learning Systems, Inc.http://www.plsweb.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems
Serious issue for those with aol subscribers. I'm currently whitelisted with aol and usually have no problem with mail delivery. Currently running 2.1.3 This morning I noticed aol bouncing just about all of the emails from my mailman server with one or the other of the following bounce messages: Oct 23 09:39:34 myserver postfix/smtp[5615]: 974515884F8: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.152], delay=1, status=bounced (host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.152] said: 500 SYNTAX ERROR, COMMAND UNRECOGNIZED) Oct 23 09:39:34 myserver postfix/smtp[6435]: 1ED73588177: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mailin-01.mx.aol.com[64.12.137.89], delay=0, status=bounced (host mailin-01.mx.aol.com[64.12.137.89] said: 554 TRANSACTION FAILED) I spoke with the aol postmaster support line and they confirmed that the problem is due to the form of the mailman reply-to address to process bounces: [EMAIL PROTECTED] They don't like the = in the address. Again this appears to be due to a recent change in aol's mail server software. I'll update once I hear back from aol -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems
I meant to say that the issue is with the mailman form of Sender: and Errors-to: Not Reply-to -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems
Is there anything we can do to remedy this in our own installations of Mailman? It'd be nice if AOL would fix it, but I don't think we can count on that. It's clearly not a situation any of us can live with. So what shall we do? Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems
Someone emailed me to point out that this form of Sender: and Errors to: address is only used if you have personalization turned on. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems
Someone emailed me to point out that this form of Sender: and Errors to: address is only used if you have personalization turned on. I couldn't live without personalization now that I have it on. Would removing the RFC 2369 headers make any difference to AOL? Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
