Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 07:48 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: I understand that, but the data/heldmsg* file could have been removed external to Mailman before that. I never found any heldmsg* on the system, nor any complaint that such a file could not be written. Maybe could an strace of the appropriate qrunner be of some help? I should have firstly explained the consistency of our recently installed mailsystem: three separate IP-clusters (!) cooperate to handle our e-mail and except for MM they perform very well. (btw, it was designed and installed by an external party) - cluster 1: runs the MTA (Postfix) and MM - cluster 2: runs Horde and the MM-webinterface - cluster 3: runs Cyrus-imapd Cluster 1 and 2 share - via NFS - the MM-lists etc. I found out however that data/heldms* was only available on cluster 1. From the moment that I shared this directory between cluster 1 and 2 the approved messages were visible with the admin webinterface and approving resulted in a transfer of the messages to cluster2:/var/spool/mailman/in and are waiting there for the things to come. So the problem is partly solved, albeit that the messages still are not delivered, supposedly because cluster 1 should be able to transfer the messages to cluster 3, the IMAP-server (?). So I want to share the directory cluster2:/var/spool/mailman/in with cluster 1 since this cluster is configured to send the messages to the IMAP-server. Does this sound reasonable to you, or should cluster 2 itself better be configured to send the approved messages to the IMAP-server directly? Thank you for your time and useful hints c. Regards, Andre van Kan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 01:12:18PM +0100, Andre van Kan wrote: - cluster 1: runs the MTA (Postfix) and MM - cluster 2: runs Horde and the MM-webinterface - cluster 3: runs Cyrus-imapd Cluster 1 and 2 share - via NFS - the MM-lists etc. I found out however that data/heldms* was only available on cluster 1. From the moment that I shared this directory between cluster 1 and 2 the approved messages were visible with the admin webinterface and approving resulted in a transfer of the messages to cluster2:/var/spool/mailman/in and are waiting there for the things to come. So the problem is partly solved, albeit that the messages still are not delivered, supposedly because cluster 1 should be able to transfer the messages to cluster 3, the IMAP-server (?). Why on earth are you adding in IMAP at this stage? Mailman is designed to deliver via a pipe, to the scripts. I believe that's the case, even with Postfix. So I want to share the directory cluster2:/var/spool/mailman/in with cluster 1 since this cluster is configured to send the messages to the IMAP-server. I suspect that that's a completely wrong approach. Does this sound reasonable to you, or should cluster 2 itself better be 's/2/1/' configured to send the approved messages to the IMAP-server directly? 's/to the IMAP-server//' -- I would nationalise Elizabeth Hurley and allow each of us to claim our share. -- JG Ballard ('lost' NS interview, mid 1990s) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
I understand that, but the data/heldmsg* file could have been removed external to Mailman before that. I never found any heldmsg* on the system, nor any complaint that such a file could not be written. Maybe could an strace of the appropriate qrunner be of some help? The attached admindb.patch.txt file contains a patch that will log more information to Mailman's 'debug' log. See attachment. Best regards, André van Kan Nov 05 13:20:14 2010 (7482) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, []) Nov 05 13:20:14 2010 (7482) heldmsg file non-existent, info = (1288958492.854609, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'test na patch', 'Post by non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-18.pck', {'lang': 'en', 'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288958491.90411, '_parsemsg': True, 'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed to post messages to this list.'}) Nov 05 13:20:14 2010 (7482) heldmsg file non-existent, info = (1288958518.006875, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'test na patch', 'Post by non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-19.pck', {'lang': 'en', 'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288958517.782223, '_parsemsg': True, 'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed to post messages to this list.'}) Nov 05 13:20:23 2010 (7531) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, []) Nov 05 13:20:31 2010 (7578) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, []) Nov 05 13:21:15 2010 (7771) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, []) Nov 05 13:23:06 2010 (8275) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, []) Nov 05 13:23:06 2010 (8275) heldmsg file non-existent, info = (1288959728.4165781, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'test na restart', 'Post by non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-20.pck', {'lang': 'en', 'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288959727.4786589, '_parsemsg': True, 'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed to post messages to this list.'}) Nov 05 13:30:32 2010 (10349) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, []) Nov 05 13:30:32 2010 (10349) heldmsg file non-existent, info = (1288960053.2462881, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'after chmod datadir', 'Post by non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-21.pck', {'lang': 'en', 'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288960053.0063901, '_parsemsg': True, 'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed to post messages to this list.'}) Nov 05 14:03:49 2010 (19385) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, []) Nov 05 14:03:49 2010 (19385) heldmsg file non-existent, info = (1288961730.2900341, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'test na NIS-edit mailman', 'Post by non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-22.pck', {'lang': 'en', 'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288961730.0643179, '_parsemsg': True, 'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed to post messages to this list.'}) Nov 05 14:03:49 2010 (19385) heldmsg file non-existent, info = (1288962000.6647379, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'datadir linked', 'Post by non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-23.pck', {'lang': 'en', 'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288962000.0590451, '_parsemsg': True, 'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed to post messages to this list.'}) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives:
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
On 11/5/2010 6:44 AM, André van Kan wrote: I understand that, but the data/heldmsg* file could have been removed external to Mailman before that. I never found any heldmsg* on the system, nor any complaint that such a file could not be written. Maybe could an strace of the appropriate qrunner be of some help? The attached admindb.patch.txt file contains a patch that will log more information to Mailman's 'debug' log. See attachment. This excerpt from your log shows one interaction with the admindb interface. Nov 05 13:20:14 2010 (7482) cgidata = FieldStorage(None, None, []) The above is logged at the beginning of the interaction and says there was no POST data which is expected. Nov 05 13:20:14 2010 (7482) heldmsg file non-existent, info = (1288958492.854609, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'test na patch', 'Post by non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-18.pck', {'lang': 'en', 'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288958491.90411, '_parsemsg': True, 'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed to post messages to this list.'}) Nov 05 13:20:14 2010 (7482) heldmsg file non-existent, info = (1288958518.006875, 'acvan...@gmail.com', 'test na patch', 'Post by non-member to a members-only list', 'heldmsg-groep3-19.pck', {'lang': 'en', 'listname': 'groep3', 'received_time': 1288958517.782223, '_parsemsg': True, 'tolist': 1, 'pipeline': ['Hold', 'MimeDel', 'Scrubber', 'Emergency', 'Tagger', 'CalcRecips', 'AvoidDuplicates', 'Cleanse', 'CleanseDKIM', 'CookHeaders', 'ToDigest', 'ToArchive', 'ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge', 'ToOutgoing'], 'version': 3, 'rejection_notice': 'Non-members are not allowed to post messages to this list.'}) Then these two say that there were two held messages, both held as non-member posts to the groep3 list, and in this case, both posted from the same address with subject 'test na patch', The first was received at Fri Nov 5 13:01:31 2010 +0100 and held at Fri Nov 5 13:01:32 2010 +0100. At the time it was held, the message itself should have been saved in Mailman's data/ directory in a file named 'heldmsg-groep3-18.pck'. Likewise, the second was received at Fri Nov 5 13:01:57 2010 +0100 and held at Fri Nov 5 13:01:58 2010 +0100, and the time it was held, the message itself should have been saved in Mailman's data/ directory in a file named 'heldmsg-groep3-19.pck'. The problem is that when the admindb interface CGI attempted to retrieve these message files at Nov 05 13:20:14 2010, the OS said the two files didn't exist. At that point, admindb.py logged the two messages and discarded the post in order to clean up the list's request database. This is what caused the vette log entries for these posts, but the real issue is that the posts had already been lost or possibly (highly unlikely) that the OS said the files didn't exist even though they did. So, either the OS lied (unlikely), or the files were removed from Mailman's data/ directory sometime in the 19 or so minutes between the time they were created and the time the admindb.py script ran, or for some reason they weren't successfully created in the first place. I actually think this latter explanation is the most likely, except that this should have resulted in an exception and error log entries at the time the post was held, and this exception should have occurred before the request database was written, so the end result would be that the post was logged and shunted and not held at all. So assuming the OS works this seems to say that either the files were removed in that 19 minute window, or possibly there are two Mailman installations, one used by mailmanctl and the qrunners and one used by the web interface and these two installations both point to the same lists/ directory, but different data/ directories so the the heldmsg-* files are created by IncomingRunner in one directory and looked for by admindb.py in a different directory. Again, this doesn't seem likely. You could look for a data/heldmsg* file immediately after sending a post from a non-member and before going to the admindb interface, or you could strace IncomingRunner when it is processing a non-member post and see if it writes the file. You could also try patching Mailman/ListAdmin.py by finding these lines try: fp = open(os.path.join(mm_cfg.DATA_DIR, filename), 'w') try: if mm_cfg.HOLD_MESSAGES_AS_PICKLES: cPickle.dump(msg, fp, 1) else: g = Generator(fp) g.flatten(msg, 1) fp.flush() os.fsync(fp.fileno()) finally: fp.close() finally:
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
Mark Sapiro wrote: Can you send me off list a copy of Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py from your system? I received that. Thank you. Unfortunately, there's nothing there that helps explain this issue. I can work up a patch to provide debug logging, but before I do that, is there anything in Mailman's 'error' log from either the time of the visit to the admindb page or from the time the held post arrived? If so, what's in the error log. If not, is it possible that some non-mailman process has removed any of Mailman's data/heldmsg* files between the holding of the post and the visit to the admindb page? Also, it wouldn't hurt to run Mailman's bin/check_perms to see if there might be permission issues on Mailman's data/ directory. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
Andre van Kan wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 07:12 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Can you send me off list a copy of Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py from your system? I received that. Thank you. Unfortunately, there's nothing there that helps explain this issue. I can work up a patch to provide debug logging, but before I do that, is there anything in Mailman's 'error' log from either the time of the visit to the admindb page or from the time the held post arrived? Not a single entry in any of the log files. If so, what's in the error log. If not, is it possible that some non-mailman process has removed any of Mailman's data/heldmsg* files between the holding of the post and the visit to the admindb page? I don't think so. The message is removed at the very moment that the link in Mailman's notification message is activated. I understand that, but the data/heldmsg* file could have been removed external to Mailman before that. Also, it wouldn't hurt to run Mailman's bin/check_perms to see if there might be permission issues on Mailman's data/ directory. See attachment. Mail restarted, just in case ... I sent a message to the list. Unfortunately there was no message waiting for me to be accepted and NO entry was in vette. I think that it would be great if the logging became a bit more verbose. Thanks in advance. The attached admindb.patch.txt file contains a patch that will log more information to Mailman's 'debug' log. Try applying the patch and then the next time the problem occurs, post the log - note the log may contain passwords; be careful to remove them before posting. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan --- Desktop/admindb_2.1.9.py2010-11-04 07:29:28.734375000 -0700 +++ Desktop/admindb.py 2010-11-04 07:25:55.734375000 -0700 @@ -96,6 +96,7 @@ # Make sure the user is authorized to see this page. cgidata = cgi.FieldStorage(keep_blank_values=1) +syslog('debug', 'cgidata = %r', cgidata) if not mlist.WebAuthenticate((mm_cfg.AuthListAdmin, mm_cfg.AuthListModerator, @@ -120,6 +121,7 @@ details = None envar = os.environ.get('QUERY_STRING') if envar: +syslog('debug', 'QUERY_STRING = %s', envar) # POST methods, even if their actions have a query string, don't get # put into FieldStorage's keys :-( qs = cgi.parse_qs(envar).get('sender') @@ -483,6 +485,7 @@ if e.errno errno.ENOENT: raise # This message must have gotten lost, i.e. it's already been # handled by the time we got here. +syslog('debug', 'heldmsg file non-existent, info = %r', info) mlist.HandleRequest(id, mm_cfg.DISCARD) continue dispsubj = Utils.oneline( -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
Hi Mark, Thank you for your reply. Please post to the list, not to me personally. Point taken. And sure, you are Mark, not Larry, sorry ;-) However, the above messages, presumably from Mailman's vette log, come from two different PIDs. Thus, I'm guessing that you are approving these messages via the admindb web interface, and something is going wrong in that process resulting in the message being discarded by the admindb CGI itself. That is right, these are vette-log entries and the approving attempt is done via the admindb web interface. I found out that as soon as the list-administrator just selects the link in the requires approval message as sent by mailman, (Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list) the message is discarded at that very moment! (vette log update detected) After that the following is displayed: |Action to take on all these held messages: |Defer Accept Reject Discard but *no* pending message is there to Accept. Have you modified admindb.py in any way? No! Does the web admin interface work? Except for the murdering of pending messages the interface works flawlessly. What Mailman version is this? mailman-2.1.9-4.el5 (RPM) How exactly are you approving messages? As said before: by selecting the link in the mailman-sent message. Best regards and thank you for your help, André van Kan --- * Computer Technology Group* Nikhef, Amsterdam* --- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
André van Kan wrote: I found out that as soon as the list-administrator just selects the link in the requires approval message as sent by mailman, (Reason: Post by non-member to a members-only list) the message is discarded at that very moment! (vette log update detected) After that the following is displayed: |Action to take on all these held messages: |Defer Accept Reject Discard but *no* pending message is there to Accept. This is very unusual. Is there an http proxy server involved here? Can you send me off list a copy of Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py from your system? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
On 10/29/2010 8:11 AM, André van Kan wrote: Hi Larry, Although we have the same problem, ours is even weird in some aspects. I made an test-list - groep3 - with two members. If mail is send by a non-member, all messages are discarded after approval: Oct 29 15:59:09 2010 (20460) groep3: Discarded posting: From: acvan...@gmail.com Subject: test after restart Oct 29 16:04:30 2010 (21937) groep3: Discarded posting: From: acvan...@gmail.com Subject: last one Please post to the list, not to me personally. However, the above messages, presumably from Mailman's vette log, come from two different PIDs. Thus, I'm guessing that you are approving these messages via the admindb web interface, and something is going wrong in that process resulting in the message being discarded by the admindb CGI itself. BUT if messages are sent by senders as mentioned in [Sender Filters] / List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically accepted THEN messages are delivered (of course without the necessity of approval). Since the vette-contents is rather concise, I editted IncomingRunner.py'sErrors.DiscardMessage as follows, according a earlier posting about this subject: syslog('vette', 'Message discarded, msgid: %s, handler: %s', msg.get('message-id', 'n/a'), handler) but to no avail. Nothing changes in the output-format. Because the message is not discarded by IncomingRunner. It is discarded by the HandleRequest method in Mailman/ListAdmin.py called from Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py. Since all our lists suffer the same problem, a generic configuration error may be assumed, but I've no idea how to fix it. Any hint would be gratly appreciated. Have you modified admindb.py in any way? Does the web admin interface work? What Mailman version is this? How exactly are you approving messages? -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
We are running Mailman v2.1.13 on Solaris 9 Sparc. We have a list with about 13,000 members that we currently have emergency moderation turned on because of previous problems with reply storms. Today somebody sent a message to the list, which (of course) was held for moderation. The list owner approved it, but then it disappeared. Here is what was in the vette log: Oct 04 10:35:12 2010 (21271) X_Cohorts post from michael.x...@.edu held, message-id=2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu: Post to moderated list Oct 04 10:38:26 2010 (5774) held message approved, message-id: 2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu Oct 04 10:38:28 2010 (21271) Message discarded, msgid: 2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu What caused the message to be discarded after it was approved? Thanks, Larry M. Rosenbaum Oak Ridge National Laboratory -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
* Rosenbaum, Larry M. rosenbau...@ornl.gov: We are running Mailman v2.1.13 on Solaris 9 Sparc. We have a list with about 13,000 members that we currently have emergency moderation turned on because of previous problems with reply storms. Today somebody sent a message to the list, which (of course) was held for moderation. The list owner approved it, but then it disappeared. Here is what was in the vette log: Oct 04 10:35:12 2010 (21271) X_Cohorts post from michael.x...@.edu held, message-id=2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu: Post to moderated list Oct 04 10:38:26 2010 (5774) held message approved, message-id: 2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu Oct 04 10:38:28 2010 (21271) Message discarded, msgid: 2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu The first and third line seem to match, but why is the size for the second line only a 5k instead of 20k? (if the number in () is actually the size) -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962 ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | http://www.charite.de -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
On 10/4/2010 1:06 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Rosenbaum, Larry M. rosenbau...@ornl.gov: Oct 04 10:35:12 2010 (21271) X_Cohorts post from michael.x...@.edu held, message-id=2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu: Post to moderated list Oct 04 10:38:26 2010 (5774) held message approved, message-id: 2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu Oct 04 10:38:28 2010 (21271) Message discarded, msgid: 2034674bf9d4714bae35b22bf073eef402e70...@ms-..edu The first and third line seem to match, but why is the size for the second line only a 5k instead of 20k? (if the number in () is actually the size) The number in parens is thi PID of the process that made the log entry. In the first and third cases, this is IncomingRunner and in the second it is the admindb CGI. It has nothing to do with message size. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved message is discarded
On 10/4/2010 11:51 AM, Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: What caused the message to be discarded after it was approved? Most likely, Content filtering - filter_action is Discard, and there was nothing left of the message after content filtering. E.g. the message was text/html or maybe multipart/related and the list doesn't accept that content type. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org