Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug: couldn't subscribe to dev list by simplyreplying

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Geoff Shang wrote:

I just tried again to subscribe to the developers list and discovered that 
you couldn't confirm your subscription just by replying.

The message text implies that the confirmation key should be in the 
subject, but the confirmation key was in the From address of the 
confirmation message (see below).  Replying simply send me a message 
telling me that the subject line was being ignored.  It seems the confirm 
code was also ignored.

Not sure how it's meant to work but it's the first time I've had to resort 
to clicking on the URL.


What is supposed to happen is you reply; your MUA sends a reply to

mailman-developers-confirm+519716b18b6d4ddef39fd87d0e5abdf8c5ced...@python.org

This is received and posted to the command queue where it is processed
by CommandRunner which parses the token from the To: address and
invokes cmd_confirm to do the confirmation.

There are two ways this works in general. If the site's
VERP_CONFIRMATIONS setting is No (the default) the confirmation is
From: listname-requ...@... with Subject: confirm token, and the
reply is to the listname-requ...@... address with the confirm command
possibly preceded by Re: in the Subject:. This works.

If the site's VERP_CONFIRMATIONS setting is Yes as it is at python.org,
the confirmation is From: listname-confirm+token@... with Subject:
Your confirmation is required to join the listname mailing list, and
the reply is to listname-confirm+token@... and this should work too.

If you received a reply that your message Subject was ignored, either
the To: address didn't match VERP_CONFIRM_REGEXP or the reply wasn't
sent to the -confirm address, or the site's MTA doesn't correctly
deliver mail addressed to listname-confirm+token@... . I don't think
it's the third alternative in this case.

If the above doesn't explain what went wrong, post the message you
received in reply to your reply.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug: couldn't subscribe to dev list by simplyreplying

2010-02-01 Thread Geoff Shang

On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Mark Sapiro wrote:


There are two ways this works in general. If the site's
VERP_CONFIRMATIONS setting is No (the default) the confirmation is
From: listname-requ...@... with Subject: confirm token, and the
reply is to the listname-requ...@... address with the confirm command
possibly preceded by Re: in the Subject:. This works.


This is what I've seen in the past.


If the site's VERP_CONFIRMATIONS setting is Yes as it is at python.org,
the confirmation is From: listname-confirm+token@... with Subject:
Your confirmation is required to join the listname mailing list, and
the reply is to listname-confirm+token@... and this should work too.


But it didn't.  I don't remember having problems signing up to this list, 
but that was 4 months ago so I don't really remember.


At any rate, the confirmation message text is incorrect for this 
configuration.



If you received a reply that your message Subject was ignored, either


Actually, to be precise, it said that it was unprocessed.


the To: address didn't match VERP_CONFIRM_REGEXP or the reply wasn't
sent to the -confirm address, or the site's MTA doesn't correctly
deliver mail addressed to listname-confirm+token@... . I don't think
it's the third alternative in this case.


Well I still have the message I sent:

Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:30:24 +0200 (IST)
From: Geoff Shang ge...@quitelikely.com
To: 
mailman-developers-confirm+519716b18b6d4ddef39fd87d0e5abdf8c5ced...@python.

org
Subject: Re: Your confirmation is required to join the Mailman-Developers
mailing list


If the above doesn't explain what went wrong, post the message you
received in reply to your reply.


Sorry, I don't still have it.  But I guess I could generate one.

At any rate, it's not a good advertisment.

Geoff.

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