Re: [Mailman-Users] Correct Mailman setup (was: List adds information to sender's name)

2017-09-23 Thread Joseph Brennan
> At Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:57:36 +0200 lusche...@yahoo.de wrote:

>> All lists are more or less working, but every now and then some people
>> complain about something. The most annoying thing is that messages are
>> processed but then queued for up to one hour before they go out.

I think you mean the message for one user is delayed and the message
for another is not.

This could happen when sending to gmail servers for recipients in more
than one domain. The gmail server will accept for only one domain at a
time and temp fail the other recipients. If your mail transport
re-tries every 30 minutes, you will have some sent at once, some
delayed for 30 minutes, and maybe even some more delayed for multiples
of 30 minutes. Access to the maillog would totally clarify whether
this is the answer, but I take it you can't see that.

You could have Mailman send to 1 recipient per message --which is what
Gmail does!-- but it is so inefficient that it makes me cringe and I
have not chosen to implement that yet on our systems.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Correct Mailman setup (was: List adds information to sender's name)

2017-09-22 Thread Robert Heller
For some reason, you sent this to just me (Robert Heller 
).  I am replying and including the list 
(mailman-users@python.org) on the CC.

At Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:57:36 +0200 lusche...@yahoo.de wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I have now read through the web pages Mark Sapiro proposed on Wednesday
> - and I am more confused than before about all this. After contacting
> our hoster (who told me that we are the only one of his clients who uses
> Mailman and that he can't help me here), I ask the collective of all
> knowledgeable people to help me configure Mailman (v 2.1.23 on cPanel)
> so that there are the least possible problems.
> 
> There are in total 5 lists:
> 
> 3 of them are discussion lists for various subjects. All members are
> allowed to reply to all messages, and all these replies should go to the
> list / distributed to all members.
> 
> 2 of them are announcement lists - members should normally not be
> allowed to post anything; therefore all are set to "moderated". 
> 
> All lists have members who use various mail domains, so I cannot be sure
> about any odd behaviour of their mail servers
> 
> All lists are more or less working, but every now and then some people
> complain about something. The most annoying thing is that messages are
> processed but then queued for up to one hour before they go out. The
> mail system is on the same virtual server, and the provider has no idea
> what to do. Otherwise the mail server does not ause problems, any
> message submitted normally (not via Mailman) goes out nearly instantly. 
> I would appreciate if a knowledgeable person could guide me through the
> proper setup of these lists.
> 
> Thanks, Christian

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