Re: [Mailman-Users] Disabling quoting of original messages sent to request

2009-06-12 Thread Steven Bonisteel
Thanks, Terri Oda and Mark Sapiro for the responses.

The pointer to CommandRunner.py allowed me to quash the copied input for now.

(I had to do something, as the issue was getting our server into CBL and so 
largely hobbling all our lists.)

But I agree with Terri that the result is not ideal -- and probably confusing 
-- for legitimate users of the request address.

We are lucky (I guess) in that we have an otherwise tightly controlled, custom 
front end for subscriber management and that the only time *most* legitimate 
users interact with the 'request' address is when Replying to a subscription 
confirmation. (And that may be the step where a cc: of the original message is 
least informative.)

Regards,
Steven


At 06:56 PM 6/11/2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:

In Mailman 2.1.x, only by modifying the the Results.send_response()
method in Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py. If you want to do this, post
that fact, and I can suggest a patch.

At 05:52 PM 6/11/2009, Terri Oda wrote:

Are you sure you want to just disable the quoting?  I know the spams are 
obnoxious, but at least right now your users can tell that the spammer is the 
culprit.  If you take that part out, then they may assume your installation of 
mailman is at fault, or that they somehow sent something out, which could be 
even more confusing than just receiving the spam copy is.

 
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[Mailman-Users] Disabling quoting of original messages sent to request

2009-06-11 Thread Steven Bonisteel

Spammer sends message to a Mailman list's 'request' address using his real 
target's e-mail address in 'From:'

Mailman  responds with:

The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your 
original message ... 

... and then faithfully reproduces the spammer's original payload and sends to 
the target.

How can I disable the quoting of the original messages in responses from the 
'request' address?


SRB


 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disabling quoting of original messages sent to request

2009-06-11 Thread Terri Oda

Steven Bonisteel wrote:

Spammer sends message to a Mailman list's 'request' address using his real 
target's e-mail address in 'From:'

Mailman  responds with:

The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original 
message ... 

... and then faithfully reproduces the spammer's original payload and sends to 
the target.

How can I disable the quoting of the original messages in responses from the 
'request' address?


Are you sure you want to just disable the quoting?  I know the spams are 
obnoxious, but at least right now your users can tell that the spammer 
is the culprit.  If you take that part out, then they may assume your 
installation of mailman is at fault, or that they somehow sent something 
out, which could be even more confusing than just receiving the spam 
copy is.


That said, if you want more info on controlling this sort of thing, you 
might want to do a search for mailman and backscatter -- there was 
some discussion on this a while back that might have useful suggestions 
for your particular problem.


 Terri
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