Re: [Mailman-Users] Disappearing message
Mark Sapiro wrote:
Anne Ramey wrote:
snip
Way 2 is to modify scripts/post to log something. At the end of the
main() function following:
inq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.INQUEUE_DIR)
inq.enqueue(sys.stdin.read(),
listname=listname,
tolist=1, _plaintext=1)
add
print sys.stderr, _('post to %(listname)s received and queued')
This will write the 'post to %(listname)s received and queued' message
with the listname filled in to both the error and post logs for every
post. This again will tell you if the post got to the post script.
snip
OK, I added this code, but I get this:
Oct 26 16:18:41 2007 post(17996): post to %(listname)s received and queued
in the error log (it doesn't replace the listname with the variable) and
nothing in the post log. Did I do something wrong?
Nothing in the post log is correct. I forgot what the
LogStdErr(error, post) call in the script does. I thought the
second argument was a second log, but it's the identifying label.
The non-replacement of %(listname)s with the name is puzzling. The i18n
_() function should do this replacement. I copied the print directly
from below and it worked for me. However, you could do the
interpolation directly as in
print sys.stderr, 'post to %s received and queued' % listname
and that should work.
I tried this and he re-sent the problem child message this morning. I
got the message in the error log that it was received and queued for
both list1 and list2, but it only went out to list2. There is only the
one entry in the post log (for list 2), and the message never was
received by the list1 membership. He later resent (forwarded) the
message to only list1 and it went through fine. This tells me that
Mailman is correctly receiving the message from exim, queuing it up,
then it vanishes and never gets posted. Here was the problem:I was
Bcc'd on the message and these are what the headers looked like (I've
taken out the received headers)
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (added by [EMAIL PROTECTED])
From: sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'person1' person1
@ncmail.net,
'person2' person2
@ncmail.net,
'List2' List2
@lists.ncmail.net
Subject: [ITS.CAB] Agenda Change Advisory Board - Oct 30,2007 3:30pm - CCS
Conference room
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:39:34 -0400
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He was copying a message from before that he had received, editting it
and sending it to the list, so it already had the x-been-there headers.
I'd never run into this before, so I thank Mark very much for
recommending the BCC.
Thanks for all the help,
Anne
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disappearing message
snip
Way 2 is to modify scripts/post to log something. At the end of the
main() function following:
inq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.INQUEUE_DIR)
inq.enqueue(sys.stdin.read(),
listname=listname,
tolist=1, _plaintext=1)
add
print sys.stderr, _('post to %(listname)s received and queued')
This will write the 'post to %(listname)s received and queued' message
with the listname filled in to both the error and post logs for every
post. This again will tell you if the post got to the post script.
snip
OK, I added this code, but I get this:
Oct 26 16:18:41 2007 post(17996): post to %(listname)s received and queued
in the error log (it doesn't replace the listname with the variable) and
nothing in the post log. Did I do something wrong?
def main():
# TBD: If you've configured your list or aliases so poorly as to get
# either of these first two errors, there's little that can be done to
# save your messages. They will be lost. Minimal testing of new lists
# should avoid either of these problems.
try:
listname = sys.argv[1]
except IndexError:
print sys.stderr, _('post script got no listname.')
sys.exit(1)
# Make sure the list exists
if not Utils.list_exists(listname):
print sys.stderr, _('post script, list not found: %(listname)s')
sys.exit(1)
# Immediately queue the message for the incoming qrunner to
process. The
# advantage to this approach is that messages should never get lost --
# some MTAs have a hard limit to the time a filter prog can run.
Postfix
# is a good example; if the limit is hit, the proc is SIGKILL'd
giving us
# no chance to save the message.
inq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.INQUEUE_DIR)
inq.enqueue(sys.stdin.read(),
listname=listname,
tolist=1, _plaintext=1)
print sys.stderr, _('post to %(listname)s received and queued')
Anne
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disappearing message
Anne Ramey wrote:
snip
Way 2 is to modify scripts/post to log something. At the end of the
main() function following:
inq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.INQUEUE_DIR)
inq.enqueue(sys.stdin.read(),
listname=listname,
tolist=1, _plaintext=1)
add
print sys.stderr, _('post to %(listname)s received and queued')
This will write the 'post to %(listname)s received and queued' message
with the listname filled in to both the error and post logs for every
post. This again will tell you if the post got to the post script.
snip
OK, I added this code, but I get this:
Oct 26 16:18:41 2007 post(17996): post to %(listname)s received and queued
in the error log (it doesn't replace the listname with the variable) and
nothing in the post log. Did I do something wrong?
Nothing in the post log is correct. I forgot what the
LogStdErr(error, post) call in the script does. I thought the
second argument was a second log, but it's the identifying label.
The non-replacement of %(listname)s with the name is puzzling. The i18n
_() function should do this replacement. I copied the print directly
from below and it worked for me. However, you could do the
interpolation directly as in
print sys.stderr, 'post to %s received and queued' % listname
and that should work.
def main():
# TBD: If you've configured your list or aliases so poorly as to get
# either of these first two errors, there's little that can be done to
# save your messages. They will be lost. Minimal testing of new lists
# should avoid either of these problems.
try:
listname = sys.argv[1]
except IndexError:
print sys.stderr, _('post script got no listname.')
sys.exit(1)
# Make sure the list exists
if not Utils.list_exists(listname):
print sys.stderr, _('post script, list not found: %(listname)s')
sys.exit(1)
# Immediately queue the message for the incoming qrunner to
process. The
# advantage to this approach is that messages should never get lost --
# some MTAs have a hard limit to the time a filter prog can run.
Postfix
# is a good example; if the limit is hit, the proc is SIGKILL'd
giving us
# no chance to save the message.
inq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.INQUEUE_DIR)
inq.enqueue(sys.stdin.read(),
listname=listname,
tolist=1, _plaintext=1)
print sys.stderr, _('post to %(listname)s received and queued')
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disappearing message
Mark Sapiro wrote:
Anne Ramey wrote:
Have a new and different one. One of my users that has two lists, let's
call them list1 and list2. If he sends a message to list1 and cc's
list2, list1 never receives the message. If he sends the same message
only to list1, it goes through fine. According to my exim logs, it is
delivering both messages to list1:
The exim log certainly says the the first post was delivered to both
lists, but ...
The first message is successfully posted to list2, the second message is
successfully posted to list1. The first message has absolutely no MM
longs relative to list1. Nothing in the vette, smtp, post, error,
bounce, etc. Nothing at all related to message one for List1. This is
a weekly message and this has happened for the last 4+ weeks. Before
that it appears to have worked fine. I haven't made any system changes
in that time. What could cause something like this. Is is possible a
list setting could do this? I checked the sender filters on both lists
but saw nothing that looked wrong.
I can't offhand think of any way the a post can evaporate from Mailman
without a trace.
There are two ways to verify that the post actually reached Mailman.
Way 1 is somewhat disruptive. Stop Mailman, send the post to list1 with
cc to list2, examine the files in Mailman's qfiles/in queue with
bin/dumpdb (bin/show_qfiles won't show the metadata which says which
list the post is for) to see if the post is there twice, once for each
list, then start Mailman. If the post is in the in queue for list1
and then evaporates, it is a Mailman problem, but I don't know what
the problem might be. If the post doesn't get to the in queue then it
could be an exim problem or possibly a problem with the post script.
Way 2 is to modify scripts/post to log something. At the end of the
main() function following:
inq = get_switchboard(mm_cfg.INQUEUE_DIR)
inq.enqueue(sys.stdin.read(),
listname=listname,
tolist=1, _plaintext=1)
add
print sys.stderr, _('post to %(listname)s received and queued')
This will write the 'post to %(listname)s received and queued' message
with the listname filled in to both the error and post logs for every
post. This again will tell you if the post got to the post script.
Once we know whether or not the post gets this far, we can focus our
attention and maybe come up with an answer or a way to get more
information.
One thing just occurred to me. Is it possible that the post to list1
and list2 is somehow generated from a post from list1 and contains an
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
header, thus preventing it from being accepted by list1. Then perhaps
the resend to list1 gets generated from the post from list2 and
doesn't contain the
X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
header.
Thank you for the reply. I have to restart Mailman this weekend (during
our maintenance window) anyway for another change. I'll take way2 and
see what I see the next week. I'll let you know the results.
Thanks,
Anne
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disappearing message
Anne Ramey wrote: Thank you for the reply. I have to restart Mailman this weekend (during our maintenance window) anyway for another change. I'll take way2 and see what I see the next week. I'll let you know the results. Note that the patch to scripts/post does not require a Mailman restart to be effective or to be removed because the post script is run by the mail wrapper in a new process invoked by the MTA for each message. Also, if possible, have the poster of the message add a Bcc: directly to you so you can see the headers in the incoming message in case there's something there that's causing this. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Disappearing message
Have a new and different one. One of my users that has two lists, let's call them list1 and list2. If he sends a message to list1 and cc's list2, list1 never receives the message. If he sends the same message only to list1, it goes through fine. According to my exim logs, it is delivering both messages to list1: ex. 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=myhost P=esmtp S=288168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=[List1] Agenda Change Advisory Board - Oct 23,2007 3:00pm 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J = list1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J = list2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport 2007-10-22 08:28:48 1IjwOm-0002t6-2J Completed 2007-10-22 08:52:31 1Ijwli-0003WN-LD = [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=myhost P=esmtp S=288873 [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=FW: [List2] [List1] Agenda Change Advisory Board -Oct 23, 2007 3:00pm 2007-10-22 08:52:31 1Ijwli-0003WN-LD = list1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=mailman_router T=mailman_transport 2007-10-22 08:52:31 1Ijwli-0003WN-LD Completed The first message is successfully posted to list2, the second message is successfully posted to list1. The first message has absolutely no MM longs relative to list1. Nothing in the vette, smtp, post, error, bounce, etc. Nothing at all related to message one for List1. This is a weekly message and this has happened for the last 4+ weeks. Before that it appears to have worked fine. I haven't made any system changes in that time. What could cause something like this. Is is possible a list setting could do this? I checked the sender filters on both lists but saw nothing that looked wrong. Any assistance would be appreciated. Anne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
