Re: [Mailman-Users] Does Mailman alter messages attached to moderation notification emails?

2015-08-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 08/27/2015 06:22 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
 
 Now it's happened again, this time in a plain text only message. The period 
 is there in his copy of the sent message, missing in what went to the list. I 
 can also see that it's missing in the copy of the message attached to the 
 moderation notification.


Is the Message-ID: in his copy the same as in the list post?


 Does the list send out moderation notifications with the attached messages 
 unaltered?


Yes.


 Is there any mechanism in mailman that could have removed the period?


I won't say it's not possible, but I doubt it. If so it would be in an
underlying Python library module.


 It also removed one from a URL sent to the list owner address, but again that 
 message has passed through Mailman. I'm not able to easily get a sample of a 
 message from him that hasn't been through Mailman, so I can't eliminate it as 
 a suspect.
 
 Looking at the raw messages, something that's common about them is that the 
 missing period would fall exactly on the start of a line when it's wrapped, 
 i.e after the = symbol which I assume is a soft eol, and in one of them the 
 period is there in the plain text section, but missing in the html section.


It sounds as if this could be a 'format=flowed' issue. Please post one
of these raw messages as sent to mailman. Put the message in a file with
a .txt extension and attach it to your post. You can remove all the
headers with identifying info. I want to see all the MIME-Version:,
Content-Type: and Content-Transfer-Encoding: headers, the boundaries and
the sub-part headers and the part content.

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[Mailman-Users] Does Mailman alter messages attached to moderation notification emails?

2015-08-27 Thread Peter Shute
I am again trying to answer a query from a list member about spelling errors in 
his postings that show up in his list messages, but not in his copy of the sent 
message.

Initially we thought this was because he was composing in html, and that his 
mail client wasn't including an accurate representation of the message in the 
plain text section. Our list sends out only the plain text section.

In at least one case we proved that the spelling error (a missing period in a 
URL) was only in the plain text section, so I advised him to compose in plain 
text.

Now it's happened again, this time in a plain text only message. The period is 
there in his copy of the sent message, missing in what went to the list. I can 
also see that it's missing in the copy of the message attached to the 
moderation notification.

Does the list send out moderation notifications with the attached messages 
unaltered? Is there any mechanism in mailman that could have removed the period?

It also removed one from a URL sent to the list owner address, but again that 
message has passed through Mailman. I'm not able to easily get a sample of a 
message from him that hasn't been through Mailman, so I can't eliminate it as a 
suspect.

Looking at the raw messages, something that's common about them is that the 
missing period would fall exactly on the start of a line when it's wrapped, i.e 
after the = symbol which I assume is a soft eol, and in one of them the period 
is there in the plain text section, but missing in the html section.

Peter Shute
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