Re: [Mailman-Users] Email rejected with un-quoted From with a dot
> "Bill" == Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bill> You know what's very odd? When they send mail directly to Bill> me their name includes the quotes. "Foo B. User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bill> When they send mail to the list then it's held and looking Bill> at the headers in the Mailmain admindb page it has their Bill> From: header without the quotes: From: Foo B. User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bill> I have to assume that my old version of Mailman is stripping Bill> the quotes. Very odd. It's possible, but there are other possibilities. Specifically, your MUA that you use to read the directly-delivered mail is _adding_ the quotes to force the mail into RFC compliance. Other possibilities are intervening MTAs and MDAs. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of TsukubaTennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Email rejected with un-quoted From with a dot
On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 02:09:56AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > "Bill" == Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Bill> On an old Debian Woody machine running mailmain 2.0.11 > Bill> Mailman rejects mail with an un-quoted name part that > Bill> includes a dot. > > Yup. According to RFC 2822's grammar, that's not "an un-quoted > name part that includes a dot", that's a syntax error. > > The user who's sending that stuff should be advised to get a compliant > MUA or fix their configuration. You know what's very odd? When they send mail directly to me their name includes the quotes. "Foo B. User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When they send mail to the list then it's held and looking at the headers in the Mailmain admindb page it has their From: header without the quotes: From: Foo B. User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> With the reject message: Pending posts: From: foob.user on Mon Sep 19 14:09:01 2005 Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list Otherwise, their headers are all indicate both messages coming from the same client and via the same smtp setup. X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) I have to assume that my old version of Mailman is stripping the quotes. Very odd. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Email rejected with un-quoted From with a dot
> From: > Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Anyone else seen this issue before? > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:51:24PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: > >>On an old Debian Woody machine running mailmain 2.0.11 Mailman rejects >>mail with an un-quoted name part that includes a dot. >> >>From: Foo B. Baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Mailmain then reports: post from foob.bar requires approval. While >>these work fine: >> >>From: "Foo B. Bar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>From: Foo Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>I'm sure I've seen this mentioned someplace before but not having luck >>finding it now. >> >>Can anyone point me to info on this. It would be nice to get a patch >>until the machine can be upgraded to Sarge. I had a similar problem subscribing dotted names while using Mailman 2.1.2 in June of last year or so. I don't know what ver of Python was in play at the time. -- Jeff Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] < http://www.io.com/~jwilson > -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Email rejected with un-quoted From with a dot
> "Bill" == Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bill> On an old Debian Woody machine running mailmain 2.0.11 Bill> Mailman rejects mail with an un-quoted name part that Bill> includes a dot. Yup. According to RFC 2822's grammar, that's not "an un-quoted name part that includes a dot", that's a syntax error. The user who's sending that stuff should be advised to get a compliant MUA or fix their configuration. Note the quotes in my "From:". That is NOT because of mailman; I've had several other programs do yucky things to my mail because of the unquoted dot. If you want your mail delivered reliably, it's worth conforming to this one. Granted, it's also true that Mailman MUST accept and parse that address (cf RFC 2822 section 4 and example A.6.1). But as I say, this is not just a Mailman issue. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of TsukubaTennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Email rejected with un-quoted From with a dot
Anyone else seen this issue before? On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 07:51:24PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: > On an old Debian Woody machine running mailmain 2.0.11 Mailman rejects > mail with an un-quoted name part that includes a dot. > > From: Foo B. Baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Mailmain then reports: post from foob.bar requires approval. While > these work fine: > > From: "Foo B. Bar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: Foo Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I'm sure I've seen this mentioned someplace before but not having luck > finding it now. > > Can anyone point me to info on this. It would be nice to get a patch > until the machine can be upgraded to Sarge. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Email rejected with un-quoted From with a dot
On an old Debian Woody machine running mailmain 2.0.11 Mailman rejects mail with an un-quoted name part that includes a dot. From: Foo B. Baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mailmain then reports: post from foob.bar requires approval. While these work fine: From: "Foo B. Bar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Foo Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm sure I've seen this mentioned someplace before but not having luck finding it now. Can anyone point me to info on this. It would be nice to get a patch until the machine can be upgraded to Sarge. Thanks. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
