subject:"\[Mailman\-Users\] Mailman won't start"

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman won't 'start' - but is working?

2008-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro

Charles Marcus wrote:

>I'm trying to be patient, but NO ONE has a clue or idea where I might 
>look to solve this?


As Brad says, we don't.

Here is an example of the init.d/mailman script that we distribute
after 'configure'.

---
#!/bin/sh
#
# mailmanThis shell script starts and stops GNU Mailman.
#
# Copyright (C) 2001-2003 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
# modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
# as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
# of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
# Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA
02110-1301, USA.
#
# Copy this file to /etc/init.d/ (or /etc/rc.d/init.d/ depending on
# your system) and activate it as such:
#
# On Debian, type "update-rc.d mailman defaults"
# On RedHat, and derivatives, install with "chkconfig --add mailman"
#
# chkconfig: 2345 98 12
# description: Mailman is the GNU Mailing List Manager, a program that \
#  manages electronic mail discussion groups.  For more \
#  on GNU Mailman see http://www.list.org
# processname: mailmanctl
# config: /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
# pidfile: /usr/local/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid

PYTHON=/usr/bin/python
MAILMANHOME=/usr/local/mailman
MAILMANCTL=$MAILMANHOME/bin/mailmanctl

case "$1" in
'start')
#rm -f $MAILMANHOME/locks/*
$PYTHON $MAILMANCTL -s -q start
;;

'stop')
$PYTHON $MAILMANCTL -q stop
;;

'restart')
$PYTHON $MAILMANCTL -q restart
;;

esac
exit 0
---

Yours has relative paths, but you said you tried absolute paths too.
Your's also does su - mailman which is not needed (except for setting
the current directory to mailman's home for the relative paths) as
mailmanctl is designed to be run by root. There are other differences,
but I don't see why yours won't start mailman if the essentially
identical mailmanctl command typed by hand will.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman won't 'start' - but is working?

2008-01-07 Thread Brad Knowles

On 1/7/08, Charles Marcus wrote:

>  I'm trying to be patient, but NO ONE has a clue or idea where I might
>  look to solve this?
>
>  I've asked here because I'm getting deafening silence on the Gentoo
>  forums too...

Everything I've seen on this subject leads me to believe that the 
problems you're having are more to do with discrepancies between the 
portage system you're using, the startup scripts that they provide, 
kernel updates you've applied, etc

None of the specific error messages or startup scripts you've 
reported on are actually coming from Mailman itself -- they're coming 
from Gentoo-specific tools, and we're not going to be able to help 
you with those.

This would explain why you haven't seen any messages from anyone else 
that are in response to your posts -- all your questions seem to be 
very Gentoo-specific, and don't really have anything to do with 
Mailman itself.

Our Mailman-specific troubleshooting processes are described in the 
FAQ Wizard, and if you search for "troubleshoot", you should turn 
them up.

In particular, before we would be likely to be able to provide any 
assistance to you, we would need to know what is showing up in all 
your various Mailman and MTA logs, especially regarding the startup 
process.

Make sure to also check out the other FAQ Wizard entries that are 
referenced at the top of FAQ 4.78.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman won't 'start' - but is working?

2008-01-07 Thread Charles Marcus

I'm trying to be patient, but NO ONE has a clue or idea where I might 
look to solve this?

I've asked here because I'm getting deafening silence on the Gentoo 
forums too...

:(

Charles Marcus, on 1/6/2008 1:15 PM, said the following:
> Anyone? This is actually now a little worse - I updated the kernel (from 
> 2.6.17 to 2.6.23), and mailman still won't start (gives me the [ !! ] 
> error when I issue the /etc/init.d/mailman start command anad at boot 
> time) - but now, the qrunner obviously isn't starting either, because 
> the lists weren't responding until I issued a manual (as root) 
> "/usr/lib64/mailmanctl -s start", after which all pending messages are 
> delivered.
> 
> I really need a little help here... could this be some kind of 
> permissions or path problem? The location of the /bin dorectory was 
> changed in this package update... where would I check the path of the 
> 'bin' directory? Although, I did try to change the init script path to 
> the full /usr/lib64/mailman/bin/mailmanctl path...
> 
> check_perms shows no problems...
> 
> Init script is shown below... this is on a Gentoo box, and I've asked on 
> their forums, but thought I'd ask here too...
> 
> Charles Marcus, on 12/29/2007 12:16 PM, said the following:
>> Charles Marcus, on 12/29/2007 11:34 AM, said the following:
>>> If I try to 'start' mailman, it won't start - I get the (!!) error. If I 
>>> try to stop it, it says it isn't started.
>>>
>>> What am I missing?
> 
>> Hmmm... apparently the qrunner is running - if I manually issue the 
>> mailmanct stop or -s start commands, it appears to work...
>>
>> I did verify these are correct in the startup script (see below) - but I 
>> also notice two things: it is dated from 2004, and it is issuing the 
>> command as 'su - mailman', but I am issuing the commands directly as 
>> root - so maybe this script didn't get updated properly?
>>
>> #!/sbin/runscript
>> # Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Foundation
>> # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
>> # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/net-mail/mailman/files/mailman.rc,v 
>> 1.5 2004/07/14 23:50:52 agriffis Exp $
>>
>> depend() {
>>  need net
>>  use logger
>> }
>>
>> start() {
>>  ebegin "Starting mailman"
>>  su - mailman -c 'bin/mailmanctl -s start' >/dev/null 2>&1
>>  eend $?
>> }
>>
>> stop() {
>>  ebegin "Stopping mailman"
>>  su - mailman -c 'bin/mailmanctl stop' >/dev/null 2>&1
>>  eend $?
>> }
>>
>> svc_restart() {
>>  ebegin "Restarting mailman"
>>  su - mailman -c 'bin/mailmanctl restart' >/dev/null 2>&1
>>  eend $?
>> }
>>
>> Tia for any pointers and/or whacks with a clue-stick...
> 


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman won't 'start' - but is working?

2008-01-06 Thread Charles Marcus

Anyone? This is actually now a little worse - I updated the kernel (from 
2.6.17 to 2.6.23), and mailman still won't start (gives me the [ !! ] 
error when I issue the /etc/init.d/mailman start command anad at boot 
time) - but now, the qrunner obviously isn't starting either, because 
the lists weren't responding until I issued a manual (as root) 
"/usr/lib64/mailmanctl -s start", after which all pending messages are 
delivered.

I really need a little help here... could this be some kind of 
permissions or path problem? The location of the /bin dorectory was 
changed in this package update... where would I check the path of the 
'bin' directory? Although, I did try to change the init script path to 
the full /usr/lib64/mailman/bin/mailmanctl path...

check_perms shows no problems...

Init script is shown below... this is on a Gentoo box, and I've asked on 
their forums, but thought I'd ask here too...

Charles Marcus, on 12/29/2007 12:16 PM, said the following:
> Charles Marcus, on 12/29/2007 11:34 AM, said the following:
>> If I try to 'start' mailman, it won't start - I get the (!!) error. If I 
>> try to stop it, it says it isn't started.
>>
>> What am I missing?

> Hmmm... apparently the qrunner is running - if I manually issue the 
> mailmanct stop or -s start commands, it appears to work...
> 
> I did verify these are correct in the startup script (see below) - but I 
> also notice two things: it is dated from 2004, and it is issuing the 
> command as 'su - mailman', but I am issuing the commands directly as 
> root - so maybe this script didn't get updated properly?
> 
> #!/sbin/runscript
> # Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Foundation
> # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
> # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/net-mail/mailman/files/mailman.rc,v 
> 1.5 2004/07/14 23:50:52 agriffis Exp $
> 
> depend() {
>  need net
>  use logger
> }
> 
> start() {
>  ebegin "Starting mailman"
>  su - mailman -c 'bin/mailmanctl -s start' >/dev/null 2>&1
>  eend $?
> }
> 
> stop() {
>  ebegin "Stopping mailman"
>  su - mailman -c 'bin/mailmanctl stop' >/dev/null 2>&1
>  eend $?
> }
> 
> svc_restart() {
>  ebegin "Restarting mailman"
>  su - mailman -c 'bin/mailmanctl restart' >/dev/null 2>&1
>  eend $?
> }
> 
> Tia for any pointers and/or whacks with a clue-stick...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman won't 'start' - but is working?

2007-12-29 Thread Charles Marcus

Charles Marcus, on 12/29/2007 11:34 AM, said the following:
> If I try to 'start' mailman, it won't start - I get the (!!) error. If I 
> try to stop it, it says it isn't started.
> 
> What am I missing?

Hmmm... apparently the qrunner is running - if I manually issue the 
mailmanct stop or -s start commands, it appears to work...

I did verify these are correct in the startup script (see below) - but I 
also notice two things: it is dated from 2004, and it is issuing the 
command as 'su - mailman', but I am issuing the commands directly as 
root - so maybe this script didn't get updated properly?

#!/sbin/runscript
# Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/net-mail/mailman/files/mailman.rc,v 
1.5 2004/07/14 23:50:52 agriffis Exp $

depend() {
 need net
 use logger
}

start() {
 ebegin "Starting mailman"
 su - mailman -c 'bin/mailmanctl -s start' >/dev/null 2>&1
 eend $?
}

stop() {
 ebegin "Stopping mailman"
 su - mailman -c 'bin/mailmanctl stop' >/dev/null 2>&1
 eend $?
}

svc_restart() {
 ebegin "Restarting mailman"
 su - mailman -c 'bin/mailmanctl restart' >/dev/null 2>&1
 eend $?
}

Tia for any pointers and/or whacks with a clue-stick...

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman won't 'start' - but is working?

2007-12-29 Thread Charles Marcus

Ok, maybe this is an issue with my understanding, but...

I am on a gentoo system, trying to clean up some things (inherited) - 
duplicates, etc. I had an old version of Mailman (2.1.7) and 2.1.9 
installed.

I removed the 2.1.7 version with no apparent problems, but then updated 
2.1.9 to the latest rev - 2.1.9-r2 (this is in the testing/unstable repo 
on gentoo, so maybe this is a bug with this package)...

They aren't supposed to make major changes between minor rev bumps like 
this, but they did this time:

1. The install directory was changed from /usr/local/mailman to 
/usr/lib64/mailman.

2. They also split up some of the stuff... if I'm not mistaken, the 
following directories used to be in the main /usr/local/mailman:

archives
data
lists
locks
logs
qfiles
spam

but they all got moved to /var/lib/mailman...

I got all of this sorted (fixed the paths in the aliases files and in 
main.cf for postfix), and mailman seems to be working fine - I send a 
message to a list, I see it processed in the log, and the message is 
delivered to all list members... but...

If I try to 'start' mailman, it won't start - I get the (!!) error. If I 
try to stop it, it says it isn't started.

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[Mailman-Users] Mailman won't start

2004-08-18 Thread Allen Martin

I recently had a server set up for me with 1and1 internet and it is
using the Plesk 7.1.1 control panel system and Redhat 9. For some
reason, the mailman mailing list wasn't working.  I could set
everything up through the control panel and I could even go to the
non-plesk control panel for the list. I could create, add users, etc.
But it just didn't send to any of them.  Further investigation showed
that mailman wasn't starting properly...here is the error I am
receiving:
(this is as root and in the /var/mailman/bin directory)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./mailmanctl start
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./mailmanctl", line 538, in ?
main()
  File "./mailmanctl", line 357, in main
check_for_site_list()
  File "./mailmanctl", line 275, in check_for_site_list
sitelist = MailList(sitelistname, lock=0)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 101, in __init__
self.Load()
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 573, in Load
dict, e = self.__load(file)
  File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 546, in __load
dict = loadfunc(fp)
AttributeError: 'dict' object has no attribute 'append'




**any help would be appreciated! I don't know where to start.  

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